chasing vandals
Thank you, Thomas, proud for a good reason, for spending most of your "time on WP chasing vandals and socks", for fighting vandalism and misconceptions, for precision in language and linguistic, imagine polychoral praise: you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:06, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Gerda Arendt. Such praise almost makes me blush, even at my age... Thomas.W ^talk 09:21, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing wrong with blushing ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:27, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ref mentioned in bigg boss 8 for nisha yadav cast was wrong. it was just correct by the right one and Telly TRP is not a spam, it is registered publication which qualifies for reliable source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanjayrealman (talk • contribs) 09:20, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That was only part of what you did, you also replaced a reference pointing to a large general news site with a reference to the site that you're spamming all over the place. Thomas.W ^talk 09:35, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Second was removed by mistake Sanjayrealman (talk

Since all you seem to do is adding links/references to that particular website, you can't afford to make mistakes like that... Thomas.W ^talk 10:03, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sir, this is to request you for deletion about Urdu language on Andhra pradesh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_with_official_status_in_India#States page. I've seen your debate with faizhaider on AP talk page. Same the reference which you said that 13 yrs back book ref doesn't suit the present situation is kept here too.

Same the discussion happened between me to faizhaider about urdu as a official language. But he didn't accepted it. It happened 1 month earlier. Because a user: @visakaha veera also raised the same objection. But after a 3 days long discussion we both disgusted with faizhaider views, left that discussion. And also he warned us as a administrator that he will block us from WP for edits. As I'm a new editor I can't get quarrel with that person. so please take action against that person if you can.Svpnikhil (talk) 18:42, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the section stating the appropriate reason Thomas. The section is mere speculation. None of the citations provided are reliable and such information before the launch of a reality show can be perceived as a potential 'spoiler'. Furthermore it is absolutely unnecessary. Please review the section again. I hope you'll understand where I am coming from. Thanks. --TizSweg (talk) 11:29, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

	The Original Barnstar
	Good day. I have got your message on the details of posting and I am not spamming. But Interested in adding our travel information website to the world's best encyclopedia. I will be happy if you can help me out getting the things done. Thanks and wishing you a great time. Nbalakrishnan78 (talk) 04:47, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You can have a glance at this page once.--Vin09 (talk) 18:03, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Vin09: It's a bit unencyclopaedic in tone, like something out of a tourist brochure, but it's not promotion by Wikipedia's standards. Juru sreenivas's editing is clearly disruptive, though, seen as the sum total of his contributions. Thomas.W ^talk 18:23, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

==Vijayawada== An assumptive news [ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vijayawada&diff=625674929&oldid=625666687 here], is it correct to add.--Vin09 (talk) 15:44, 15 September 2014 (UTC) [reply]

I apologize for my interference to your warnings. Actions by deleting the messages. However, I do not want records on my page, therefore I was eager to delete them. I will focus my attentions on now to change information with further proof.

One small request, deletion of your last post on my user page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KalyEV. (talk • contribs)

• @KalyEV.: You can remove it, it's all in the page history of your user talk page anyway, easy to find for whoever needs to know. Thomas.W ^talk 19:28, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_Army

WTF are you reverting my edits, read pdf files, or stop ruining articles, alternatively I can contact Wiki owners and have them explain it to you how reference works. revert back to my edits as they're properly referenced with new defence white paper. Man you have some serious issues. http://www.morh.hr/hr/vijesti-najave-i-priopcenja/priopcenja/112-zakoni-i-strategije/savjetovanja/10422-nacrt-prijedloga-dugorocnog-plana-razvoja-oruznih-snaga-rh-2015-2024.html & http://www.morh.hr/images/stories/morh_2014/pdf/savjetovanja/24092014/dpr_osrh_2015-2024_24092014.pdf

Really pisses me off when you go without any idea and mess things up, not sure who the main admin is here but unless you revert my corrections I am reporting you to Wikipedia. If you can't speak Croatian, don't touch articles let Anglo Croatian editors do the edits, and yes I am an Anglo Croat!

To repeat Croatian Army has only 72 active M84 tanks, not 72, defence white paper - read on. all referenced. i mean seriously man you have some serious issues. reporting you to Jimbo Wales, have his emial and sending your details now. you make another stupid edit you can be assured I'll do my best to have you reported and removed as an editor on wikiepdia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.151.44.209 (talk) 16:13, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a fanblog or personal website, meaning that everything added must be accompanied by proof of being correct. So read Wikipedia's rules about reliable sources, verifiability and burden of proof before trying to lecture anyone, or trying to add more material. And note that it's up to you to provide that reference, not me. Also note that other Wikipedia articles can not be used as references. According to the rules any material that isn't supported by a reliable verifiable in-line citation (reference) can be removed, which is exactly what I did, and will continue to do if you don't provide references. Oh, and by all means feel free to report me to "the main admin", whoever that would be, but don't bother trying to contact "Wikipedia's owners", because I most probably know the rules that apply here on the English language Wikipedia at least as well as they do. Thomas.W ^talk 16:40, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And what do you call a links that I provided ?? that lead to Croatian MOD page and Croatian Parliamentary committee on Defence, with proposed white paper clearly indicating state of the armed forces and what Croatia intends to purchase, are you blind ????? Links are in my previous reply, and you need to use Google translate plz feel free, as to me being a fan boy, I have a degree in war studies from king's College London, so I can with some degree say I am confident in what I'm saying, are you ?

Also I am correcting mistakes that have been posted on this article, for a starter Croatian Army has only 72-M84A4 tanks, not 84, this is a fact, it is in that defence white paper and Croatian MOD plans to cut that number down to 48, with 16 of these tanks to be modernized to A5 standard or M-84D standard(M-84D isn't military classification, its manufacture's). Anyhow, feel free to read posted links and than revert my edit, I won't bother anymore, have better things to do with my life than talk to a teenager. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.151.44.209 (talk) 19:19, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

1) The pdf you linked to is not a reference supporting the edits you made, it's a proposal for future changes (a development plan for 2015-2024). I can add that I've checked every one of the 109 pages in that pdf, and there's nothing there that supports your edits (and the first URL you give above only points to the pdf, so the pdf is all you've got). If you claim there is, then tell me the numbers of the pages where you find them, and I'll check again.

2) You can not change the number of vehicles etc, and especially not increase them, without providing reliable sources for your changes. Every one of them. Period.

So follow the links I gave you above, and read what it says there, before making any more edits, or you'll get warned again, and risk getting blocked. Thomas.W ^talk 19:29, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ThomasW is right about Wikipedia's rules and sourcing.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 19:40, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I made some edits (Like the idiot I am) to the BMP-2 section on the Armenian army page. I edited the number, because the source that was provide, source 22, a PDF file, it can be clearly seen that either a purchase for 50 BMP-2 units once in 2012, and once in 2013, were made or there was a modernization/repair of 100 BMP-2s in the same time frame. Its a bit foggy, but I'm sure the number is over 55. I was just trying to clear that up. What were the exact reasons to keep it at 50?

I also wanted to make some clarifications with Armenian T72s, as I thought it would be important to inform readers that most of Armenia's T72 fleet is stationed in Nagorno Karabakh Republic, and that there is much more than 100 T72s in service with the Armenian Armed Forces. If you think its unnecessary, than it should be left alone.

If you can do some clarification and we can perhaps discuss some of the numbers that would be great. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Melting Pot of Friendship (talk • contribs) 06:04, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Your reversion here removed reliable sources, including Hindustan Times and India Today, from an article that is up for deletion. Care to explain what you are doing here?--Tomwsulcer (talk) 11:57, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• @Tomwsulcer: I'm reverting a block evading troll. The material that the troll re-added and I removed again was in part sourced to a gossip blog that isn't WP:RS, while the rest of it was fancruft (no-one but the most diehard fans would be interested in reading what every newspaper in India said about that person being evicted from Bigg Boss 8, and this is, after all, an encyclopaedia and not a fanblog...). And it doesn't matter how reliable the sources are, because fancruft is still just fancruft, no matter how well it is sourced. As for being an article at AfD, being evicted from Bigg Boss 8 hardly establishes any notability. Thomas.W ^talk 16:28, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Re [1]: Perhaps Darwinbish should change her username to User:Hälsingland i en hink, what do you think? Nice ring to it. Bishonen | talk 13:31, 28 September 2014 (UTC).[reply]

@Bishonen: Or User:Helsingborg i en spann. I sometimes get the impression that some users here on WP love being in a fight so much that they deliberately start fights over nothing, just to have a fight to be in. Thomas.W ^talk 18:01, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

dear @Thomas.W don't undo my edits at aventador at veneno section. I was making a new article for veneno because it is an independent car and is not realated to aventador. please cooperate — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.231.218.77 (talk) 13:09, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Then create the new article first, and then use the edit summary to tell others what your intentions are. Don't just delete a large part of an article without explanation. Thomas.W ^talk 13:12, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Mr.Thomas I appreciate your efforts of being authentic on wiki pages. Talking about Telugu speakers, only in India there are approximately 90 million Telugu speakers. Well sorry for not posting references at that time. check this out: reference(1)^[1] FYI India's population is 1.252 billion. reference(2)^[2] How can people speaking official language be too less when compared to total population???, I request you to edit the section which was reverted and post authenticated figures. Thanks for your efforts on aunthenticity Alurujaya (talk) 18:28, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Alurujaya: Hello. What you're suggesting is called "original research" and "synthesis of published sources" and is not allowed. We have to go by published reliable sources when changing things, and for India the latest published figures are in the Indian census of 2011. Figures that from what I can see aren't currently in the article, so feel free to add what the 2011 census says, but you must go exactly by what the sources say. And you have to add an inline citation when doing so. Thomas.W ^talk 18:50, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Mr. Thomas, I see your changes by the Azadi-Stadium and your message. The Azadi-Stadium is an all-seater football stadium with a current capacity of 95,225 - 100,000 (including buffer blocks). The capacity of 84,000 is not the correct number. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sa97 (talk • contribs) 09:50, 5 October 2014 (UTC) Although the Signal Iduna Park or Westfalenstadion of Borussia Dortmund has a capacity of 65,590 seats, the list shows us a capacity of 81,264 (including 25,000 standing).[reply]

ok I get it, I hav removed their instagram and twitter account but I am not promoting someone nor they told me. please don't remove my new edits. I have proof (reference) that the special edition car exsist. 37.231.218.77 (talk) 16:20, 6 October 2014 (UTC)Imran[reply]

What steps should I take, as this is open since long while. Sock puppet.--Vin09 (talk) 09:52, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Vin09: They're both stale, not having edited for three weeks, so the report has low priority at SPI. Just let the SPI take whatever time it takes, unless they start adding links again. If they do, ping me. Thomas.W ^talk 09:59, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

See this. Some one asking email id?--Vin09 (talk) 10:02, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Vin09: Seems you're the only one they're asking, but if I were you I would not give them your email. What you can do is add an email address, and enable email, in your preferences. It will allow people to send you email, without telling them what your email address is. But be careful when replying, because if you reply to the email you get you will reveal your email address to them. Which is why most people who enable email here create a special email address, at Gmail, Outlook, Yahoo or whatever, that they use only for Wikipedia mail. Thomas.W ^talk 10:09, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I was just adding a reference link for the iPhone6 and 6 Plus launch in India. I was NOT spamming. So stop erasing my content from the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deep2701 (talk • contribs) 13:56, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Deep2701: What you're doing is refspamming. So stop. Thomas.W ^talk 14:00, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you delete an edit to the List of Boeing CH-47 Chinook operators article? I added the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force to the list of operators. It's mentioned in the Helicopters section of the List of aircraft of the Iranian Air Force https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_of_the_Iranian_Air_Force article. It's also mentioned as being in service with the IRIAF, on other websites. The Iran section of the Boeing CH-47 Chinook article also mentions that CH-47C Chinooks were supplied to the former Imperial Iranian Air Force, not just the army. Dreddmoto (talk) 11:57, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Dreddmoto: The source in the article clearly states that all CH-47s in Iran are now operated by the Army, not the Air Force, which is what matters, not who they were originally delivered to. And other articles on Wikipedia can not be used as references. Thomas.W ^talk 12:01, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply. It is informative. Dreddmoto (talk) 12:14, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi , all contents added to Flipkart is credible and from major news sources from India like NDTV and Firstpost. Please donot come to conclusion before discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mail2nith (talk • contribs)

Part of it wasn't sourced at all, and all of it was full of language errors, so there were many reasons for reverting it. Thomas.W ^talk 18:20, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have added references from authentic sources like Business Insider now. Please enhance the article if possible. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mail2nith (talk • contribs) 02:24, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Here, User: Thomas.W, go through the last several hundred edits and tell me they are not literate, constructive, and concise: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/71.192.186.6.

The idea that any group is going to get categorically scrapped by some flippant revert is absurd. If the dissenting editor has a problem with any individual edit they may suggest a change and *they* can get consensus to revert. Otherwise it's pure Alice in Wonderland. Yours, 71.192.186.6 (talk) 20:55, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have taken a quick look at your edits, and see no problems with any of the edits that I have looked at. But I'm not the one you should discuss it with since I'm not the one who initially reverted you. Discuss it with Lukeno94 instead, and point him to your other contributions. And since you're a regular contributor, and from what I can see a net positive, you ought to create a named user account, so that people can recognise you, because even though most people here try not to judge people differently, the huge number of vandalism edits made by IPs occasionally make people click revert in cases where they perhaps shouldn't. Thomas.W ^talk 21:06, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for taking the time to review some of my edits and satisfy yourself they are legitimate contributions to Wikipedia and by no means vandalism. Nor do they deserve categoric reversion as in the case at the Honda Civic page. As I indicated, if user Lukeno94 were reasonable - and he has repeatedly demonstrated that he is not - he would have assessed the edits, determined which if any he had a difference of opinion over, and made constructive changes reflecting his preferences. Instead, all he did was a mass revert then stonewall behind a completely unsupportable but evidently Wikipedia accepted defense of "I don't like 'em (and since I reverted 'em you can't get 'em back without overcoming a preposterous hurdle (given the trifling issue at hand) of going to Talk and trying to lobby for a consensus among a magically appearing herd of cats, if and when they do ever appear)."

I have a life, and simply cannot devote that sort of time and effort to something so trivial, regardless that there is merit to the edits and everything about how their reversion was handled is wrong. Is it any wonder why good folks and thoughtful contributors - in the instance one with editorial experience spanning six decades - simply walk away. Who in their right mind would put up with the bullying? Yours, 71.192.186.6 (talk) 16:19, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Hang on, who are you really, if you're saying that I "repeatedly demonstrated" that I am not reasonable? I was staying out of the drama, and in case you didn't notice, there was only one revert from me; afterwards, I left it alone. Please read WP:NPA, I have no interest in getting into drama, and nor did I ever even remotely indicate anything that you said. I said that I did not believe that you had improved things generally, and, in fact, had made some objectively worse changes in my opinion. For example, the total removal of the information about it being the best selling car in California without discussion is something questionable; in my opinion, the change to from "After a period of developing idiosyncratic automobiles such as the Honda 1300 that met a lukewarm response in Japan" to "After a period of developing idiosyncratic automobiles such as the lukewarmly received domestic Honda 1300" is also objectively worse. I have nothing further to say on this matter, unless you make another unreasonable comment. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 20:45, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Thomas,

Hope you are doing well!

I would like to add the name of "Prakash Sontakke" as one of the renowned slide guitarists. He has given about 2000 concerts all over the world till date and his name features in the national dailies. I would like to take your help in this. I can provide the links of the dailies once you advise me on what I would need to do in order to add Prakash Sontakke's name to the page.

Thanks, Srinivasratnakar (talk) 17:22, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Srinivasratnakar: Hello. We do not add people unless they're notable by Wikipedia's standards, and we do not add links to external websites that promote an individual or a company. If you feel he is notable by our standards you can create an article about him, but make sure he really is notable by our standards first (see WP:MUSICBIO; and having given 2,000 concerts is no proof of notability, only of perseverance), or your attempted article will be deleted. Thomas.W ^talk 17:55, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

His name is already present in Wikipedia. Please check the following Wikipedia site:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_(band)

It has his name but there is no page. That is the reason why I am trying to add his name. Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srinivasratnakar (talk • contribs) 19:01, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Having occasionally played as an extra in a marginally notable band doesn't make anyone notable. Thomas.W ^talk 19:07, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please see this diff [2]

Furthermore,

A) All my edits have clear and lucid edit summaries.

B) I am not in any kind of edit war with anybody (except mindless monkeys with automated WMFlab tools).

I also assume Good Faith on your part and am reverting you. If you feel it violates WP:3RR please take this anywhere you want to, as it may WP:BOOMERANG. 190.184.144.86 (talk) 12:31, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, Good Faith is often not enough but must be accompanied by COMPETENCE WP:CIR. Now because you have advised me about 3RR, I am asking you to self revert your re-insertion of a) Dead links b) Original research c) Self Published Sourcs, in the face of my earlier talk, or else I will haul your ass to a notice board. 190.184.144.86 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 12:50, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

One of the things I've learnt during my several years here on WP is that IPs who demand that others assume good faith, threaten to report other editors to administrators, and use shortcuts like WP:CIR and WP:BOOMERANG almost always have something to hide. So let's see what you're hiding, or at least part of it, because my gut feeling tells me there's a lot more.

Your claim is that the material you repeatedly (#1, #2, #3, #4) have removed is WP:OR, WP:SYNTH, sourced to a dead link and self-sourced, and therefore must be removed. But when I checked it, I found that the first part of the material is sourced to very reliable sources (indianexpress.com, business-standard.com and thehindubusinessline.com) and is neither OR nor synth, apart from the first part of the sentence, "It is consistently ranked" which ought to be changed to something like "In 2011-2012 it was ranked", but that little piece of puffery is most definitely not an excuse for removing the entire paragraph, with sources and all. As for the second part of the material that you have repeatedly removed the reference to beta-iima.com, which is now dead, should be removed, but it is still sourced to The Times of India, which is a very reliable source. It might need some rephrasing to make it less promotional, but as with the rest of the material, there's no valid reason for you to remove all of it without prior discussion on the talk page of the article.

So no, I'm not going to self-revert. You are of course free to report me to whatever noticeboard you want, but don't forget to read WP:BOOMERANG first. Also read WP:NPA, because referring to editors who revert you as "mindless monkeys" is not kosher. Thomas.W ^talk 14:22, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Also pinging NQ, who might like to read this. 14:24, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Came across this just now. No ping whatsoever. Anyway, Sorry I messed up. By the time I took a second look at the article, you had already reverted the IP. Thanks for taking care of it.  NQ  talk 17:57, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• @Primefac: It wasn't me who added the template but the editor below, who has already posted on the talk page of the user he wants to communicate with, i.e. me. But thanks for the info anyway. Thomas.W ^talk 20:29, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tom, I am a student at the institute currently and have been meaning to change this Wikipedia page for many days to make sure it reflects the correct information on academics and events hosted by the school. Please help me with what I could do to make sure the information therein is correct and accurate. Right now it seems like a mishmash of content some relevant and some not so. I did read up your reference on conflict of interest and while I understand that this could be viewed as a conflict of interest - I honestly would like for the page to show the correct information as well so that the Wiki could be useful to other students such as me. Would adding more citations that are not from the school help? Please do let me know.

Iima.pgpx.mba (talk) 16:39, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Thomas.W i need help. I added about a youtube personality (Roman Atwood) and I have seem to mix two personalities column togther. Can u fix the issue please?!? Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_YouTube_personalities#R Immu 01 (talk) 13:22, 14 October 2014 (UTC)immu01[reply]

Great revert. I haven't revert IP edits two times (I'm not admin to do multiple at once), I've forgot. I see you've sorted out the problem later. Thanks.--AirWolf ^talk 14:01, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. As someone who has edited this article recently, I am bringing your attention to a proposed set of restrictions at Talk:Ayurveda#Going forward. I see this action as necessary to allow harmonious editing at the article, and to prevent more blocks going forward. Best regards, --John (talk) 20:42, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This user keep vandalising the articles such as Madai and Medes with ip. Can you please look? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.216.129.46 (talk) 21:15, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. He has stopped now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.216.129.46 (talk) 21:19, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

	The Original Barnstar
	Its easier to undo changes by a spammer/vandalizer than fixing them up one by one...thanks Muzaffarabad one Saadkhan12345 (talk) 21:34, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't realize. Sorry for the trouble. Sf46 (talk) 00:04, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Welcomeen-ru. There are a whole set for different languages. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:58, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Yngvadottir: Thanks. I knew there was one, but not where it was, so you saved me from having to go looking for it. Thomas.W ^talk 20:01, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed your childish vial threats. Looking at your history and block log you are one of the last people that should be giving "advice", let alone your passive aggressive threats. Resaltador (talk) 14:32, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]