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:(Regarding the early-closure question: It's about [[WP:Consensus|consensus]], which is a very important but only loosely defined term on Wikipedia. The requirements for meeting the "consensus" criterion vary from noticeboard to noticeboard and discussion to discussion. It is impossible to provide the clear answer you're looking for.)
:(Regarding the early-closure question: It's about [[WP:Consensus|consensus]], which is a very important but only loosely defined term on Wikipedia. The requirements for meeting the "consensus" criterion vary from noticeboard to noticeboard and discussion to discussion. It is impossible to provide the clear answer you're looking for.)
:Thank you for the clarification. I remain convinced that waiting two more years would be beneficial, as all the discussions, cordial as they have been, have just repeatedly confirmed my view to me. The new clarification is a good step, but modifying the appeal in a specifically requested way can hardly offset the original impression. [[User:ToBeFree|~ ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 20:03, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
:Thank you for the clarification. I remain convinced that waiting two more years would be beneficial, as all the discussions, cordial as they have been, have just repeatedly confirmed my view to me. The new clarification is a good step, but modifying the appeal in a specifically requested way can hardly offset the original impression. [[User:ToBeFree|~ ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 20:03, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
::I can’t wait 2 years. I would be at risk of committing Sockpuppetry. Something I hate myself for doing and would hate to have to swoop so low again. [[User:Thegameshowlad|Thegameshowlad]] ([[User talk:Thegameshowlad#top|talk]]) 20:06, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

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August 2020

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 3 months for abuse of editing privileges. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  only (talk) 16:32, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Thegameshowlad (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))


Request reason:

I am sorry, I have had a warning, 3 months I believe is too long, please reconsider it, I won't move any more pages, I am here for the good.Please don't block me, ill accept a final warning.

Decline reason:

My message to you was a final warning. If you read the guide to appealing blocks you might have more success. But I was in the process of issuing my own block when only came in here. Barkeep49 (talk) 16:40, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Thegameshowlad (talk) 16:35, 24 August 2020 (UTC) @Only @ Ser Amantio di Nicolao,[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Thegameshowlad (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))


Request reason:

Steven, please step in and help me, I’ve been wrongly blocked, if you unblock me you will forever be my hero

Decline reason:

I am declining your unblock request because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that

  • the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or
  • the block is no longer necessary because you
    1. understand what you have been blocked for,
    2. will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
    3. will make useful contributions instead.

Please read the guide to appealing blocks for more information. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 18:14, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Thegameshowlad (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))


Request reason:

I didn’t understand my edits were wrong, I miss understood policy and I will be constructive in future, I don’t consider myself to have done anything wrong, I haven’t used multiple accounts, it must have been someone else I share an ip with.

Decline reason:

You received plenty of warnings and have not listened. "I don't consider myself to have done anything wrong" is not going to get you unblocked. I suggest you step back, read through all of the advice you have been given, and then think very carefully about your next unblock request - if you continue wasting peoples' time with this sort of unblock request, your talk page access may be revoked for the duration of your block. GeneralNotability (talk) 18:49, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Thegameshowlad (talk) 18:43, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

One of the important things that admins look at when reviewing unblock requests is honesty. Are you denying that the accounts that TonyBallioni mentioned blocking here are yours? The accounts he blocked are mostly all named after things that interest you (i.e. game shows and football). only (talk) 18:50, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi Thegameshowlad, I'm sorry to see that you've been blocked, and having spoken to you a bit in the last couple of days I feel sure that you can contribute successfully in the future, but you need to take this slowly. Remove the two unblock requests now. Go on and do it, because there is zero chance of them being granted and if you continue requesting right now then maybe a talk page ban imposed as well. After that, take some time to reflect on everything that's been said here. There probably exists an unblock request for you in the future, but it isn't today and it won't be granted until you give a firm plan as to how you intend to proceed, avoiding some of the issues that have caused this block in the first place. But for now, please just remove these two unblock requests. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 19:39, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@ Amakura Thank you. I am confident I will be unblocked within the next 3 days, is there anyway we can talk about it so you can have a review and make a report about it? I am really upset and was nearly crying earlier but it’s not your fault, I know I have inadvertadley broke policies. Thegameshowlad (talk) 19:54, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

{{unblock|reason=“The block is no longer necessary because you understand what you are blocked for, you will not do it again, and you will make productive contributions instead”. I didn’t know that any of my misdeeds were wrong, I completely understand why I was blocked, I have read the policies and I understand everything better now. I am sorry for inadvertadly breaking rules and I will be more careful in future. }} [[User:Thegameshowlad|Thegameshowlad]] ([[User talk:Thegameshowlad#top|talk]]) 18:05, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

{{unblock|reason=I didn’t know it was illegal to move pages without consensus, I won’t do that again, I will stick to one account, I will keep articles in draft space, I won’t upload copyrighted pictures, tender RfA’s make illegitimate blocks or make null edits, I didn’t realise any of these were illegal and I have learned my lesson I misunderstood the policy I have spent ages reading them and I will be constructive in future}}[[User:Thegameshowlad|Thegameshowlad]] ([[User talk:Thegameshowlad#top|talk]]) 08:36, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Thegameshowlad (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))


Request reason:

In the past I have moved pages without conscensous, I have realised this is not right so I won’t do that again, I have created articles without approval, again I didn’t know this was “illegal” and I’ll behave otherwise in future and leave articles in draft space. I have made 10 consecutive null edits to get my edit count up, again I’ll not do that again given I didn’t know it wasn’t appreciated. I have uploaded files to commons, that I didn’t know were copyrighted, I’ll be more careful in future, I won’t make anymore RFS’s, previously I have placed block temples on pages, I thought anyone could block vandals, but now I understand you can’t and I won’t until I become an admin (something I’m not expecting for at least another 12-18 months). This is my request and I’ll let the admins decide if it is successful

Decline reason:

I've read your many requests and looked through the history of this page. I agree with Only that it is best that you sit this out for a longer period. Given this page history it does not come across that you have learned from the issues that caused the block and the subsequent unblock declines. If you truly have listened to all the advice given to you on this page then come back when the block has expired and start again.


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Thegameshowlad (talk) 16:46, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ser Amantio di Nicolao Only only Barkeep49

Regards, The Game Show Lad.

20/08/20

While you're blocked, you don't get to edit with your IP address. I've now blocked the IP address for the length of this block. only (talk) 11:43, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@only I haven’t edited from my IP since you payed the smack on this account. Look, I really do think it was time I am unblocked. Have you read my request above?. I’ve done all I can. Give me a chance. Thegameshowlad (talk) 15:44, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This edit clearly took place today. I disagree that it's time that you were unblocked, especially if you're editing from your IP while blocked on this account. I've read your request above and still believe that it's best that you sit out for longer. Again, these are not things you're going to learn/correct in less than a week, especially if you keep ignoring the advice of people on this page. But, I'll leave it to another admin who hasn't already responded here to decline or accept. only (talk) 15:51, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Only that was me, I am sorry, I couldn’t recall it, I was only Rvv to with good faith. Thegameshowlad (talk) 11:11, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Barkeep49 I have taken almost a month out. I’ve read the policies, thought long and hard about what I can do, I won’t tender another request until you welcome my appeal 1st. Thegameshowlad (talk) 11:56, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Thegameshowlad (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))


Request reason:

I have sat out for a long time I’m ready to return. I’ve served my punishment, I understand policy better now and I’m looking forward to the future. I’m confident this unblock request was successful

Decline reason:

See the other unblock request below. JBW (talk) 17:50, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Thegameshowlad (talk) 20:08, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Only @Barkeep49 @Ser Amantio di Nicolao

  • Before proposing an unblock, I suggest you learn basic wikisyntax and understand how to ping other users in a way that actually sends notifications. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 09:08, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - blocks are not "punishments", they exist simply to prevent harm to the project. And it's not simply a case of sitting it out for a long time and then coming back. What we need, as stated in your previous unblock requests, is for you to acknowledge that you understand why you were blocked in the first place, and give a detailed explanation of how you intend to proceed differently this time around. Let's hear that, and then we can think about it, because I do believe you can be a useful contributor here. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 10:40, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Thegameshowlad (talk) 11:29, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I came here in late June, I didn’t know all the policies, I rushed into creating articles without thinking and failing to comply with standards, as a result I was given a block for 3 months, I have read all the policies and in future I will not make the same mistakes, I will cite anything I add, I will not make null edits, I will not make Rfa’s for a long time, I will not make unblock requests for other people and I won’t place block templates on peoples pages. I will write article with true info and cite everything I add and grow this wiki. Thegameshowlad (talk) 11:33, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thegameshowlad, can you give us a sense of the kinds of edits you are interested in making after an unblock? You don't have to know exactly, but I don't want there to be any surprises and certainly don't want you to end up re-blocked a day or a week after an unblock so a general sense would be very helpful. Also, can I ask why you chose to request unblock rather than waiting our another month? Frankly, as much as the block was for different things, ultimately the block was for seriously inconveniencing other editors in making them look over and/or clean up things you've done, and so the thing I personally want to see most is a greater of respect for other editors' time, and making these kinds of unblock requests isn't too promising in my view. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 17:12, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
information Note: I have refactored your comment a bit to remove the duplicate {{unblock}} template (only one should be active at a time). Mz7 (talk) 17:31, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2 months are left on my block actually. I want to improve articles about sport and game shows and start new ones. I will be more careful. Thegameshowlad (talk) 17:46, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Thegameshowlad (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))


Request reason:

original unblock reason

Decline reason:

I am generally more willing than most administrators to unblock editors who say they now understand what they did wrong and will not do the same again. However, with the best will in the world I can't see anything in what you have written during the block that gives any impression that you really do understand how disruptive your editing was, or what needs to be done differently. Your unblock request dated 2 October makes it clear that you have either not read the guide to appealing blocks or have read it and totally failed to understand it, as nobody who does understand that guide could possibly think the request had any chance whatever of success. As for this request, posted while the previous one was still open, and not giving any reason whatsoever for unblocking, the only conceivable effect that might have had would have been to add to the impression that you don't know what you are doing, had there been any doubt about it. My advice to you is that your best plan is to wait the remaining 24 days until the present block runs out, because every time you post here requesting an unblock you just provide more reason to think that unblocking is not a good idea. And when the block finally is over, please re-read all the advice you have been given, and try to learn from it, because if you carry on in the same way as before then it is likely that you will be blocked indefinitely, and I hope that won't happen. JBW (talk) 17:50, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Thegameshowlad (talk) 16:29, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

November 2020

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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abusing multiple accounts. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Eagles 24/7 (C) 21:59, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Eagles247 Just to clarify, i use a shared IP network (as stated before) i know who this person is and it isn’t myself and i was unaware of their actions and i believe socking only applies to person. If there actions have caused me to be yeeted, as a user of this IP address i take responsibility, the person who created the new account is someone i am close to (i’ll not name them) and they have similar roles/interests in me. I apologise for those actions on myself and the other person involved’s behalf. Thegameshowlad (talk) 16:44, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Thegameshowlad (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))


Request reason:

I didn’t get what i was doing wrong i know now, i feel i need 1 last chance to edit legit please Thegameshowlad (talk) 20:10, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You are banned as per WP:3X. No admin is permitted to unilaterally lift your block, you instead need to follow the process outlined in WP:UNBAN. There's no significant chance of your ban being lifted at this point as you were evading your ban just days ago. Your best bet is to wait at least six months then plead for unbanning under WP:SO. Any further unblock requests that do not follow the process outlined in WP:UNBAN may result in you losing access to your talk page. Yamla (talk) 21:05, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

I'll note additionally that your last blocked sockpuppet was showing the same WP:CIR issues, so you'd specifically need to address what steps you have taken to resolve this, when you contest your ban no sooner than six months from now. --Yamla (talk) 21:06, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yalma a user emailed me when i was blocked telling me just to create a new account. Thegameshowlad (talk) 21:45, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Before that, you were told multiple time to read Wikipedia's guidelines, and this comment clearly shows you failed to do so. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:51, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
1234qwer1234qwer4 another user said ignore them you will not get found out. Thegameshowlad (talk) 21:52, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What are you trying to convey? Saying you deliberately violated the rules won't get you closer to an unblock. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 22:00, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
1234qwer1234qwer4 I was reluctant to violate the rules, i will not name the user publically but i will email it you. They emailed me saying i should create another. Thegameshowlad (talk) 22:14, 22 December 2020 (UTC) I have emailed it you. I will forward you the conversation when you reply.[reply]
What are you expecting me to write? [[User:|𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰]] (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 22:56, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Just acknowledge the email to prove it is you then i will forward the conversation. Did you get the emaal 1234qwer1234qwer4 Thegameshowlad (talk) 09:53, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand what you are trying to say, and it does not seem to be particularly related to your unblock request. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 16:21, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Thegameshowlad, just to add that an email from some miscellaneous editor advising you to break the rules is not a defence in the fact that you then went on to break them. So forget about this line of reasoning. It looks like you're banned for another six months, so I advise you to either forget about Wikipedia, or if you really still think there's something you can contribute here, read the guidelines properly and come back in those six months showing that you really understand where this has all gone wrong so far. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 16:40, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What so harassment isn’t recognised? The user persistently harassed me. Thegameshowlad (talk) 17:14, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Amakuru Thegameshowlad (talk) 17:22, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well you didn't mention that before, you appeared to saying the aforementioned user was giving you friendly advice on breaking the rules, rather than harassing you. If they're continually sending you emails, even now, then maybe consider switching your Wikipedia email address to something else, so that it doesn't hit your normal inbox. Obviously there are remedies available at Wikipedia:Harassment, for users who feel they're being bullied etc, but that I've not heard of an issue involving a long-term banned user before. I'd advise to just move on for now, there's little value in continuing this discussion. My advice to you above still stands. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 18:28, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Amakuru I have just realised it is an admin that was harassing me, i have emailed you his user name and i will also email you the conversation. Thegameshowlad (talk) 18:47, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Amakuru it is against my human rights to ban me as a person so i will take legal action if you do not stop with such. Thegameshowlad (talk) 13:43, 24 December 2020 (UTC) [reply]

Enough trolling. Talk page access revoked. You may use WP:UTRS if you wish to unconditionally withdraw your legal threat or to indicate that your legal action is resolved, and to indicate you will make no more (absolutely ludicrous) legal threats. I very strongly suggest waiting at least six months from today (or the latest time you've evaded your block, whichever is later), as all you have done so far is to very clearly demonstrate you should remain blocked. --Yamla (talk) 14:12, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Stop hand
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. Bot0612 (talk) 01:02, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, User:Thegameshowlad/sandbox

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Celestina007 (talk) 19:18, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Michael Heselschwerdt

Hello, Thegameshowlad. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Michael Heselschwerdt".

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:10, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

UTRS 38855 (NLT)

Legal threat withdrawn at UTRS appeal #38855. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:46, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

UTRS 44473

User has requested unblocking at UTRS appeal #44473. Yamla is agreeable to restoring talk page access. I do so now. User is CBANned and must request unblocking via WP:AN. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:08, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock 2

This user is asking that their block be reviewed:

Thegameshowlad (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))


Request reason:

In August 2020 I was blocked for 3 months with the reason ‘Competence is required; while good-faith, making too many disruptive errors in a short span’ (see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=110830381) after numerous unblock requests it became clear that an unblock would not be possible, at this point I knew basically no rules or policies. Then, recharge stupidly in October 2020, I created User:Gameshowandsportsfan2007, after a few weeks I got caught out and that account was blocked and this accounts block was extended to indefinite, at that point if I had have waited another month non of my Sockpuppetry and bans would have happened and I would have been editing legitimately for the last 7 months, after that I created a number of other Sockpuppets (see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Thegameshowlad, all of which quacked so obviously and numerous were blocked on the policy that if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it probably is a dusk without CU evidence, all of this I deeply regret and am frankly ashamed of, after numerous unblock requests and apologies I made a ludicrous legal threat one which I withdrew unconditionally yesterday. Over the last 6 months I have been tirelessly reading policies and guidelines and now I feel I can return to editing without causing any issues. If I were to be unblocked I will expand and create articles on football and game shows, which I am passionate about. I FULLY understand no admin can unblock me without consultation with the community, as I have read WP:UNBAN numerous times. One thing I am pleased to say is that I have always edited in a positive manner, in my original account and my (rather idiotic) sockpuppets, I have never vandalized any pages. I fully understand the reason ]s for the block and I admit that I have acted really stupid and I would love to be able to put it behind me, if an unblock is not possible at the minute, I will fully understand why and I would focus on that before requesting a further unblock. With this all said I am requesting the standard offer. Thanks Thegameshowlad (talk) 17:46, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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{{Unblock on hold |1=blocking administrator |2=In August 2020 I was blocked for 3 months with the reason ‘Competence is required; while good-faith, making too many disruptive errors in a short span’ (see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=110830381) after numerous unblock requests it became clear that an unblock would not be possible, at this point I knew basically no rules or policies. Then, recharge stupidly in October 2020, I created [[User:Gameshowandsportsfan2007]], after a few weeks I got caught out and that account was blocked and this accounts block was extended to indefinite, at that point if I had have waited another month non of my Sockpuppetry and bans would have happened and I would have been editing legitimately for the last 7 months, after that I created a number of other Sockpuppets (see [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Thegameshowlad]], all of which quacked so obviously and numerous were blocked on the policy that ''if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it probably is a dusk '' without [[Wikipedia:CheckUser|CU]] evidence, all of this I deeply regret and am frankly ashamed of, after numerous unblock requests and apologies I made a ludicrous [[WP:No legal threats|legal threat]] one which I withdrew unconditionally yesterday. Over the last 6 months I have been tirelessly reading policies and guidelines and now I feel I can return to editing without causing any issues. If I were to be unblocked I will expand and create articles on football and game shows, which I am passionate about. I FULLY understand no admin can unblock me without consultation with the community, as I have read [[WP:UNBAN]] numerous times. One thing I am pleased to say is that I have always edited in a positive manner, in my original account and my (rather idiotic) sockpuppets, I have never [[WP:Vandalism|vandalized]] any pages. I fully understand the reason ]s for the block and I admit that I have acted really stupid and I would love to be able to put it behind me, if an unblock is not possible at the minute, I will fully understand why and I would focus on that before requesting a further unblock. With this all said I am requesting the [[WP:Standard Offer|standard offer]]. Thanks [[User:Thegameshowlad|Thegameshowlad]] ([[User talk:Thegameshowlad#top|talk]]) 17:46, 18 June 2021 (UTC) |3 = ~~~~}}

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{{unblock reviewed |1=In August 2020 I was blocked for 3 months with the reason ‘Competence is required; while good-faith, making too many disruptive errors in a short span’ (see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=110830381) after numerous unblock requests it became clear that an unblock would not be possible, at this point I knew basically no rules or policies. Then, recharge stupidly in October 2020, I created [[User:Gameshowandsportsfan2007]], after a few weeks I got caught out and that account was blocked and this accounts block was extended to indefinite, at that point if I had have waited another month non of my Sockpuppetry and bans would have happened and I would have been editing legitimately for the last 7 months, after that I created a number of other Sockpuppets (see [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Thegameshowlad]], all of which quacked so obviously and numerous were blocked on the policy that ''if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it probably is a dusk '' without [[Wikipedia:CheckUser|CU]] evidence, all of this I deeply regret and am frankly ashamed of, after numerous unblock requests and apologies I made a ludicrous [[WP:No legal threats|legal threat]] one which I withdrew unconditionally yesterday. Over the last 6 months I have been tirelessly reading policies and guidelines and now I feel I can return to editing without causing any issues. If I were to be unblocked I will expand and create articles on football and game shows, which I am passionate about. I FULLY understand no admin can unblock me without consultation with the community, as I have read [[WP:UNBAN]] numerous times. One thing I am pleased to say is that I have always edited in a positive manner, in my original account and my (rather idiotic) sockpuppets, I have never [[WP:Vandalism|vandalized]] any pages. I fully understand the reason ]s for the block and I admit that I have acted really stupid and I would love to be able to put it behind me, if an unblock is not possible at the minute, I will fully understand why and I would focus on that before requesting a further unblock. With this all said I am requesting the [[WP:Standard Offer|standard offer]]. Thanks [[User:Thegameshowlad|Thegameshowlad]] ([[User talk:Thegameshowlad#top|talk]]) 17:46, 18 June 2021 (UTC) |decline = {{subst:Decline reason here}} ~~~~}}

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{{unblock reviewed |1=In August 2020 I was blocked for 3 months with the reason ‘Competence is required; while good-faith, making too many disruptive errors in a short span’ (see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=110830381) after numerous unblock requests it became clear that an unblock would not be possible, at this point I knew basically no rules or policies. Then, recharge stupidly in October 2020, I created [[User:Gameshowandsportsfan2007]], after a few weeks I got caught out and that account was blocked and this accounts block was extended to indefinite, at that point if I had have waited another month non of my Sockpuppetry and bans would have happened and I would have been editing legitimately for the last 7 months, after that I created a number of other Sockpuppets (see [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Thegameshowlad]], all of which quacked so obviously and numerous were blocked on the policy that ''if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it probably is a dusk '' without [[Wikipedia:CheckUser|CU]] evidence, all of this I deeply regret and am frankly ashamed of, after numerous unblock requests and apologies I made a ludicrous [[WP:No legal threats|legal threat]] one which I withdrew unconditionally yesterday. Over the last 6 months I have been tirelessly reading policies and guidelines and now I feel I can return to editing without causing any issues. If I were to be unblocked I will expand and create articles on football and game shows, which I am passionate about. I FULLY understand no admin can unblock me without consultation with the community, as I have read [[WP:UNBAN]] numerous times. One thing I am pleased to say is that I have always edited in a positive manner, in my original account and my (rather idiotic) sockpuppets, I have never [[WP:Vandalism|vandalized]] any pages. I fully understand the reason ]s for the block and I admit that I have acted really stupid and I would love to be able to put it behind me, if an unblock is not possible at the minute, I will fully understand why and I would focus on that before requesting a further unblock. With this all said I am requesting the [[WP:Standard Offer|standard offer]]. Thanks [[User:Thegameshowlad|Thegameshowlad]] ([[User talk:Thegameshowlad#top|talk]]) 17:46, 18 June 2021 (UTC) |accept = accept reason here ~~~~}}

You aren't following the instructions at WP:UNBAN, nor have you addressed your sockpuppetry. Please reread WP:UNBAN and please revise your request to address all the points. --Yamla (talk) 22:11, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yamla I have addressed my socking at UTRS and having read through the instructions, I feel I heave read it. Given I have understanding issues would you be able to simplify what these points are? If you give me a list of points to address I would be delighted to do so! Thegameshowlad (talk) 08:29, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You seem to think your unblock request can be granted here by an administrator. That's not the case, see WP:UNBAN. Frankly, your full request needs to be made here, it's inappropriate to tell people to also check UTRS; not many admins have access to UTRS. You say you "created another account", but that's not the full truth, is it? You created at least six accounts, not one. If you had only created one account, you wouldn't have been banned. One account is perhaps a misunderstanding, six accounts is outright malicious behaviour. --Yamla (talk) 11:02, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
At the risk of being accused of coaching, you must fully and thoroughly deal with each of the behaviors that led to your block. What you did; what you would do. Honestly, I don't know how to make this point more clearly. Your request will need to be carried over to WP:AN for the community to review. And they are much stricter about these things than I. TBH, I would decline if it were up to me. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:46, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yalma Deepfriedokra I have been out all day and have only just seen your reply, sorry I couldn’t reply sooner. I have written a full unblock request above for your info, is it better? Thegameshowlad (talk) 17:46, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

{{ping|Yamla}} Ping did not work. Yamla-- thoughts. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:40, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Yamla: ping still did not work  :) ——Serial 11:45, 19 June 2021 (UTC) [reply]
I think this is sufficient to take to WP:AN. Anyone else is likely to do so. Barring objections, I plan to take it to the noticeboard this afternoon. --Yamla (talk) 12:26, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Yalma: Thanks. I am really grateful Thegameshowlad (talk) 12:49, 19 June 2021 (UTC) Is an unblock likely?[reply]

We never know ahead of time. We are hopeful. It is good to have a request we can carry to the community. We like being able to. I do so now. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How long will the process last? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thegameshowlad (talk • contribs) 13:02, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We never know ahead of time. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:03, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I just meant how long do they last on average? Are you talking a couple days? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thegameshowlad (talk • contribs) 13:13, 19 June 2021 (UTC) @Deepfriedokra: what is the threshold for an unblock[reply]

@ToBeFree: whilst I fully accept your view my understanding was that the 72 hours were for a request for block not unblock. @ToBeFree: to further address your objection, at that point in August 2020 I was going through a bad time as far as wiki was concerned, I knew basically nothing and I had no understanding, I have become quite interested and frankly addicted in wanting over the last few months to help out and trust me, if I am unblocked (which with an 80% majority so far leaves my very optimistic) my August 2020 contributions were of low standard and I believe that I can edit to a very high standard if I finally get my unblock. Saying this I accept Freedom of Speech and I understand and support that everyone is entitled to your own opinion. Thanks and take care Thegameshowlad (talk) 10:01, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Thegameshowlad, thanks for the ping and for addressing the concerns. I'll reply here but potentially modify my message at WP:AN afterwards.
In the discussion, 192.76.8.91 has suggested "avoid[ing] administrative/advanced areas of the encyclopaedia". The "expanded block reason" provided by Only in Special:Diff/974722345 explains this suggestion. You propose to "expand and create articles on football and game shows", which is perfectly fine and never was a problem by itself. If you had done only this before, this block would not exist.
For this reason, while the proposed future editing is perfectly acceptable, I do not yet see any actual response to the concerns that led to your original block. The proposal does not even rule out further administrative involvement one day after the unblock. The sockpuppetry is addressed in detail, but I view the sockpuppetry block as an extension of the original block, which I'd say is still in place for the original reasons. To me, the following is happening here:
  • Get temporarily blocked for X
  • Create sockpuppets, get a block extension for sockpuppetry
  • Create an unblock request that addresses only the sockpuppetry
  • Get unblocked without having ever addressed X. Success.
That really can't be happening. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 10:28, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
(and while we're talking about policy awareness, mentioning "freedom of speech" in an unblock discussion was surely a friendly gesture, but "WP:NOTFREESPEECH" is a central policy shortcut, a misunderstanding about "free speech" on Wikipedia is part of WP:GAB's "Examples of bad unblock requests" and you had made a legal threat regarding your human rights before, so that's a rather awkward statement to make. I understand how it was meant, don't worry about it and there's no need to address this further, but I thought I should mention this perhaps.) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 10:32, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I feel I have addressed ‘X’ if I am unblocked I will focus primarily on expanding and creating articles on game shows and not in areas that admins do that was my original goal but I didn’t quite manage to execute it, my long term goal one day is to become an admin myself (I know that is a VERY long time away) but for now I would focus on editing @ToBeFree: Thegameshowlad (talk) 10:40, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Regarding the adminship goal, that's not a problem by itself – it never was – but the schedule was unreasonable to a degree that led to a block. Even if adminship itself is agreedly a long time away, there are of course smaller steps on the path there, and these have been taken too early. My main concern is now that this will happen again.
Ideally, adminship is not a goal; ideally, you receive the permissions almost automatically over time, without having actively attempted to obtain them. I understand that this is an unrealistic view, but a common issue – to me – is that some editors focus this goal too early. If you have made tens of thousands of contributions and notice that you're practically doing administrative work, deciding to run for adminship in the next years is perfectly fine. That's just what I did. If, on the other hand, you have made a few hundred contributions and notice that adminship is an interesting thing you'd like to have too, that's probably too early. Not just too early for adminship, but actually too early to focus one's efforts on it and to call it a goal. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 10:54, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@ToBeFree: I understand that and that’s why I won’t be considering running for adminship myself for a long time, that is the long term goal 🥅! I know my schedule was unreasonable, I am though still interested in the administrative side of things but I won’t be doing any of the closing discussions that admins should do or submitting any RFAs they were very stupid. I will focus mainly on editing. Can I just say you have actually helped me a lot and I will not make any of those mistakes after an unblock. Also given you seem quite young still, may I enquire at what age did you begin editing Wikipedia? Thegameshowlad (talk) 11:07, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@ToBeFree: How is waiting 2 more years going to make any difference? I am confident that I will be unbanned given you are largely outnumbered (no disrespect to you). I will not be even considering or thinking about adminship now, that goal is completely suspended I will focus 100% on editing and creating articles about football and game shows. Not getting involved with the admins jobs. Thegameshowlad (talk) 11:29, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
🙂 Unless you count a 10-year-old's spam contributions on the German Wikipedia, I started fixing typos and broken links in 2012, and patrolling recent changes in 2013, when I was 15-17 years old (enwiki, dewiki). I really did not have adminship in mind, but I was soon interested in becoming a dewiki reviewer/"editor", a usergroup automatically assigned according to the following criteria: de:Wikipedia:Gesichtete_Versionen#Sichterstatus That's roughly equivalent to "extended-confirmed" on enwiki today, but comes with the ability to patrol pending changes on a wiki that has pending-changes protection on every article. The idea of striving to adminship is from August 2018, when I was 21 or 22.
Regarding the "2 more years", that's just a personal opinion on how quickly Wikipedia editors can change significantly enough to alleviate past concerns. Some need half a year, some need ten years, and my completely unscientific guess for this specific situation is "3 years". ~ ToBeFree (talk) 11:42, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Very similar story. I won’t be striving for adminship any time soon. Also as I speak some German I may make some contributions to de.Wikipedia at some point. I believe I will be able to simply edit without causing any disruption. Also to get unblocked if the result stayed like this by Tuesday afternoon would an unblock be granted? as I can’t see anything regarding requisite majorities but I presume only a simple majority is required. Thegameshowlad (talk) 11:59, 20 June 2021 (UTC) @ToBeFree:[reply]
Unfortunately unblock discussions have no set time limit; some discussions are pretty straight-forward (i.e. unanimous after a day or two and closed) and some drag on for a week or two (though this is the extreme end of the scale and rarely happens). In other words, we can't exactly guarantee that (should the discussion continue its trend) you will definitely be unblocked on any particular day. Please continue to be patient. Primefac (talk) 13:28, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Primefac: what is the threshold for closing after after a day or too? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thegameshowlad (talk • contribs) 13:44, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Deepfriedokra: could you please add to the thread on the notice board the following statement: ‘If I were to be unblocked, I would contribute primarily in creating, editing and expanding articles on football and game shows, something I am passionate about. The main reason for my initial block (before my idiotic sockpuppetry) was for trying to be too involved in the advanced administrative side of it, something I would totally avoid if an unblock was to be granted.’ Thanks Thegameshowlad (talk) 14:48, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@ToBeFree: now I’ve assured you I will not be getting involved in the around in the advanced administrative areas of the site can you please clarify what your objection to it is taking into account: ‘If I were to be unblocked, I would contribute primarily in creating, editing and expanding articles on football and game shows, something I am passionate about. The main reason for my initial block (before my idiotic sockpuppetry) was for trying to be too involved in the advanced administrative side of it, something I would totally avoid if an unblock was to be granted’? Thegameshowlad (talk) 18:48, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Regarding the early-closure question: It's about consensus, which is a very important but only loosely defined term on Wikipedia. The requirements for meeting the "consensus" criterion vary from noticeboard to noticeboard and discussion to discussion. It is impossible to provide the clear answer you're looking for.)
Thank you for the clarification. I remain convinced that waiting two more years would be beneficial, as all the discussions, cordial as they have been, have just repeatedly confirmed my view to me. The new clarification is a good step, but modifying the appeal in a specifically requested way can hardly offset the original impression. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:03, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I can’t wait 2 years. I would be at risk of committing Sockpuppetry. Something I hate myself for doing and would hate to have to swoop so low again. Thegameshowlad (talk) 20:06, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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