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@Suthasianhistorian8

Hey so this is a discussion that i wanted to have with you for a while now and that is regarding the excommunication of Banda Singh Bahadur by Mata Sundari.The original source that makes mention of this schism occuring comes from Rattan Singh Bhangu who was the author of the 19th century sikh source known as the Panth Parkash.Altough alot of the information provided by the source is in fact reliable,his narrative on Banda Singh has been questioned by historians such as Dr Ganda Singh and Dr Sukhdial Singh.In particular regarding the supposed excommincation of Banda Singh by Mata Sundari.For One thing, Rattan Singh claims that Bhai Nand Lal had been ordered by the Mughal Government in persuading Mata Sundari in writing to Banda Singh asking him to stop his rebellion against the Mughals.This claim however appears to be erroneous due to the fact that Bhai Nand lal would pass away in Multan in 1713 whereas this schism occured during late 1714.Bhai Nand Lal also spent his last remaining years in Multan and not Delhi.Sukhdial Singh also notes that there is no hukamnamah in where Mata Sundari addresses Banda Singh or asks the Sikh community to abandon him.[1]Dr Ganda Singh also further notes that there is not a single contemporary Mughal chronicler or Historian that makes any mention of Mata Sundari excommunicating Banda Singh.[2]What are your thoughts on this? Twarikh e Khalsa (talk) 05:45, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:BALANCE, both narratives, even if they are contradictory, should be presented, given that they are well sourced. Your edits seem to serve that purpose, so there’s no disagreement on my end. Thanks. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 17:28, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Suthasianhistorian8

I agree with you and thanks for the reply.Im working on a wikipedia page detailing the military campaigns of banda singh so its a bit awkward to include all the various narratives into one page even if some of these narratives presented are contradictory.I will of course include the information regarding the schism since this schism although disputed is still widely believed and mentioned by historians such as Hari Ram Gupta and J.S Grewal. Twarikh e Khalsa (talk) 14:31, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The changes on page India campaign of Durrani are reverts done after the block of sock Theresistancecontinues who removed the changes even with the backing of 5 to 6 sources. [1] Rivanawam (talk) 00:54, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]