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Please see that noticeboard. [[User:Collect|Collect]] ([[User talk:Collect|talk]]) 06:19, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
:Screwball, not the best choice of words. Delete the moron stuff, issue an apology and you'll be back at Repub primaries.&ndash; [[user:Lionelt|Lionel]] <sup>([[user talk:Lionelt|talk]])</sup> 06:34, 5 October 2011 (UTC)


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Help Needed

Hi, my name is Michael Parks and I am a student at FIU in Miami, Florida. My current college project involves me, and those who i find to help me, redo the "Bert Oliva" page. I was hoping that you could help because i see that you have helped out with Tony Robbins, and Bert Oliva is like the 'Latin' Tony Robbins...

Well I barely get all these wikipedia rules so if you could somehow help that would be greatly appreciated! The page can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Michaelparks/Bert_Oliva

Thank you very much for all of your help! --Michaelparks (talk) 17:49, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Little Green

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll be looking into that second article sometime this week. I think the history on pro wrestling article is nicely writted, although I bet some people complain about it being relatively unsourced. If I find anytihng to help it out, I will. Thanks for the ideas and the comments.--ProtoWolf 03:29, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why the CM Punk article is "boring"

Because that's all there is to it. Part of the wikipedia mantra on FA's is that if it can survive AfD it can become a featured article and the idea behind making CM Punk an FA started back in September of last year because, unlike articles such as Bret Hart or The Undertaker, this was a significantly less important and visible wrestler. Most attempts to make the article passionate would be seen as NPOV violations and would really be trying to make small things seem large when it's not the point of the article - has he been a world champion? Yes. Has he been a world champion in a television federation? No.

There is no such thing as an "FA that shouldn't be" because an FA does not judge the topic, only the article. If FA's were judged by topic no one would spend time making featured articles on The Bus Uncle, Infinite Monkey Theorem or Japanese Toilet. Noticeably different from those article is that the Punk article is a BLP and as a BLP must adhere strongly to neutrality.

Could the prose be written better? Probably but I specifically can not see how without losing information or really adding things equivalent to weasel words in the article. –– Lid(Talk) 00:28, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just as a note Montreal Screwjob has yet to be today's featured article. –– Lid(Talk) 00:29, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your Sig

Could you alternate your signature I can't read the L's on your signature.--Hornetman16 (talk) 19:39, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good verse.--Hornetman16 (talk) 01:53, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Randy Orton

So I'm supposed to shit myself over what? yeah it's "nice" but dances on the border of being Original Research and has other issues that with the likes of Peacock terms. An example - your interpretation that Orton's participation in the Elimination Chamber showed that he was ready to be a main eventer, that's a subjective judgement - you can't say ALL participants in ALL Elimination Chambers have shown themselves to be ready to main event (Chris Masters??) nor does being in a high profile match always mean that you are ready. It's your interpretation, but this is an encylopedia it's not a wrestling profile site. Look I'm not saying this to be a bitch but from experience of putting articles up for GA or seen other wrestling related articles fail GA because they don't conform to the Wikipedia standards. MPJ-DK 04:42, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

John Cena infobox image

Could you please comment on which image you would prefer to be featured in the infobox on John Cena's page. Thanks.-- Kip Smithers 22:47, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

the WrestleCrap book

Well the book is basically a longer, more detailed version of the wrestlecrap website which features 2-3 different items a week (or is it month right now?) it does deal with the way the WWE's "family oriented" gimmicks lead to some HORRIBLE ideas (T.L. Hopper the wrestling plumber comes to mind) it also deals with the whole "Crash TV" start with the use of profanity and sex etc although it's the last chapter and not as informative as some of the other chapters.

It's informative and hilarious - and I've used it as a reference more than once.

As for Randy Orton - my main point isn't that I disliked the way you wrote it, I'm just speaking from the feedback I've personally gotten when involved in the "Good Article" process and stuff like that. And frankly I'm not very impressed with a lot of the wrestling articles and not totally surprised that most see them as a joke - I just try in my own way to improve articles one by one. MPJ-DK 19:47, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As for the 80s book - I don't have a scanner and I'm not sure that's even legal as the WWE still owns the copyright to those pictures. MPJ-DK 19:48, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you're interested in reading more about the WrestleCrap book I found a limited preview on google books that has actual pages from it. Check it out if you want to know more http://books.google.com/books?id=50EU6leHbLoC&pg=PA2&ots=BIqo4Qw9ai&dq=wrestlecrap&sig=VtUGEYb9O-TGY5rvlP8gTnjn87I#PPA148,M1

Suggestion

How 'bout adding in the 2007 section a title of "The Legend Killer" or something like that. Because of the legends he's faced this year. Just a suggestion... --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:51, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well I thought it might be a good suggestion (since you added some handy titles to the article); but I'll check to see if might work or not. Thanks for letting me know. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:04, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy Creates Cash

I'll have a look around the 1998 section and come back to you with suitable refefrences. Davnel03 08:35, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Right, it doesn't say anything specific about the Austin/McMahon fight, but it gives you pretty interesting information that could help with the article:

UNDERNEATH IS COPIED FROM THE BOOK - HOPE IT HELPS YOU! :)

Stone Cold & Shooting the Bird - pg 273

That's it for that part of the chapter, Bischoff then goes onto talk about the post WrestleMania XIV Raw ratings bump. If you really want me to write up that section on here, then I will. Nethertheless, I hope the above helps you. Davnel03 17:38, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Did you manage to use that paragraph anywhere? If you need anything else, just ask. Davnel03 16:46, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: "zerorules"

Well, I don't exactly "rule", just thought it was a cool name (since I'm a skater). I try my best to help out. Just want to do a good job. And I may take your offer on that sentence or two. P.S. Why do you think I go by "ThinkBlue"? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 15:48, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject:Terrorism

Greetings,

I was hoping I could get some input from you, about the proposed mergerof Wikipedia:WikiProject Terrorism and counter-terrorism with Wikiproject:Terrorism. It seems there's a lot of overlap between the two projects, and if we spent a few days merging the lists of articles, sharing ideas and collaborating on improving the same articles which both projects are focused on improving...we could really make some headway. Whether you're in favour, or against, the idea of a merger - I'd appreciate some feedback regardless. Much thanks. Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 21:33, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My edits were meant to clean things up and appeal more to the manual of style. So, I don't know what you're getting at by saying that what I did made things look "dumbed down!" TMC1982 12:44 a.m., 8 September 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by TMC1982 (talk • contribs) 07:44, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey?!

Check this out... Really, am I? I can't be? **Sigh...** Davnel03 07:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, thanks for including my ref in the History of professional wrestling page. Oh, also, I don't own that "Are We There Yet" book. According to the Library page, Naha does, so you're going to have to ask her about the information you need. Thanks, Davnel03 08:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, it was really added by someone else, well a vandal. The edit(s) were reverted about a minute later, and was blocked for 24 hours. Anway if you need to know any more little references to put in the history of professional wrestling article, just give me a shout and I'll try and get it. :) Davnel03 16:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah. You get 4 warnings (depending on the severity of the 1st vandalism), then you get blocked if you continue to vandalise. In this case, the user/IP was blocked for 24 hours (see here). Davnel03 17:26, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of professional wrestlers who died young

Thanks for the comment, but the list has to be cut off somewhere. Otherwise, it would have to be a list of every professional wrestler who's ever lived, since they all die at some point. So, to avoid that, there has to be an "arbitary" cut-off point, and that's what gets people ruffled.

If you want to create the list yourself in the mainspace, however you want, feel free. You can copy and paste what I have in my user-space and add whatever you want to it. I wouldn't be offended. Skudrafan1 18:06, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've read the article - it looks pretty good! I suggest you try and find somme reviews of the book and possibly add a review section to the article. Also, sources are needed desperately, so hopefully some reviews could add to the references. Good so far! Davnel03 09:39, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are we there yet?

Hey Screw, jsut letting you know I typed up the information you wanted re: Randy Orton, and it is on my talk page. Hope this helps :) --Naha|(talk) 17:00, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. The paragraph was interesting, but all it confirms is that the two were good friends.--Screwball23 talk 22:01, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

The Original Barnstar
Your work here is very appreciated. Keep up the good work. Zenlax 12:12, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Scorpion, some of your comment at the FAC came across to me as very uncivil. There was no need for that rant. Sorry, but I've put a huge amount of effort into that article, and don't deserve to get comments like that. Davnel03 16:54, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This comment means nothing to me: the rest is probably just as horrendous. How do you know if you haven't read it. If you don't put specific examples of where it is "horrendous" I cannot improve the article. Davnel03 17:09, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've addressed your coments about the lead. Would you possibly consider Supporting the article if you have any other comments to make. Thanks. Davnel03 17:20, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Davnel03 16:49, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for them comments! I have commented back. You will probably want to leave more comments and problems that probably have arisen from the changes. Do you mind if we work through the whole of the article, because I can see that the article is being improved step-by-step. If so, is there any chance you could leave comments on the 2nd feud, which is the Bret/Hakushi feud. I might be wrong, but am I right in saying that the "Event" section probably doesn't pose many problems, just the "Background" section? Thanks again!! :) Davnel03 18:04, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Any chance you could have a look at my comments? Thanks, Davnel03 22:04, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Linda McMahon

Sure. Basically under the image use policy, we can only have images of living people that aren't copyrighted. The image you uploaded was one made by WWE themselves so we can't allow it as they hold the copyright. For getting free use WWE photos that we can use on articles, there are generally three reliable sources:

  • US military websites, due to WWE's work with the troops. You can use this google search page as a guide.
  • Flickr photos are also useful as long they have a compatible license attached (here are the list of compatible licenses). This Flickr search page should help you for that.
  • Also if you have personally taken any photos of her in real life, you can basically submit the photo here as you are the author and you have the right to do anything with it.

Sadly I can't seem to find any from these sites myself and all the other photos on the article have been taken down for copyright reasons (someone was telling fibs about the podium photo, it was taken off a YouTube video), so sometimes it's very hard to even obtain a free use photo. I hope this helps. --  Θakster   23:41, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I am a guy who first watched near the end of the Attitude era and quite a lot have changed since then and I suppose it's kinda mixed right now as clearly I'm not that much of a disillusioned fan to have stopped watching, yet I realised it's not the same as before. I actually don't mind the switch to TV-PG, but I do think that they have pushed the "kid-friendly" elements a little too far beyond the suspense of disbelief in areas (the recent "Little People's Court" being an example). --  Θakster   15:46, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RE:Linda

Thanks. I have quite a few projects that I am currently working on, but I'll try and give it a look pretty soon. Nikki311 18:41, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Screwball23, Thanks for your kind words. I looked at the bio and see a lot of references missing in the wrestling section and the political section is really a mess, although it seems accurate as far as it goes. I'll take a crack at the political section and suggest where some of the references are missing in the wrestling section. I'm a bit busy this week but I should have some time next week. Angloguy (talk) 14:02, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

FA help

Hi there,

I can certainly help you out, though I must warn you that I haven't written a Featured Article in two years and therefore the criteria might have changed that I used to write to. I've got my exams on at the moment, but if you want to send me a message on the 25th about how far you got and whether you think you're meeting the criteria, I'll come take a look for you and see what we can do. Sound fair? Dev920, who misses Jeffpw. 21:43, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Elections and Referendums update

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Adoption

Greetings Screwball23, I see you're up for adoption, and I'm in the market. If ever you need advice or answers, just ask me -- any question, any time. I'd like to help however I can. Happy editing - Draeco (talk) 21:29, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be careful with negative and/or unsubstantiated information per WP:BLP. WP has become very strict about that. Otherwise, include everything verifiable that you can integrate well. If it becomes too lengthy, break out sub-articles like "Linda McMahon in the 2010 Senate Race." Such depth is a credit to WP and to your efforts. Deletionists love to axe obscure articles, but rarely will large blocks of well-written, well-cited information be deleted within an article. - Draeco (talk) 05:20, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As for the particular image you mentioned, it is already deleted with no link to the deletion discussion, so I don't know enough to talk about the specifics. If it was in fact a non-free image from Flickr as Fut.Perf discusses below, then he's right. - Draeco (talk) 04:24, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Shawn Hernandez

He did nothing notable on the Texas indy scene. It's ridiculous to break up the TNA section only to get the text "Upon his departure from TNA, Hernandez worked on the Texas independent circuit throughout 2005" in there, when it can be perfectly well placed in the start of the LAX part. The first AAA section should come after LAX if you're going put it in chronological order, so that's the only thing you have on his time between Elite Guard and LAX.TheFBH (talk) 09:22, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

History of WWE

I don't think you fully understand what is wrong with the edits. I also don't think you understand what's in the refs. First of all my main concern is with the term "PG Era" - a (as you put it) fan coined term - No where in the refs is the term used. You and I both know and cannot deny that the term is only used within the IWC. The use of the term as an official term for this "supposed" era - "supposed" is in quotation marks as I'll explain right now - is Original Research. Why? Because WWE hasn't acknowledge this as a "supposed" era. What it is to them as your reference cited is a simple change in programming. Finally TNA is irrelevant to the subject of the history of WWE and therefore deserves no mention in the article. You are not going to find heavily weighed notes of other subjects in a an article of a single subject unless it is relevant to both subjects. You can argue that the subject of WWE may be relevant to TNA but it certainly isn't the other way around. Even then, the TNA articles make no mention of WWE. If you still strongly disagree, why don't you take this up at WT:PW and let the project decide?--UnquestionableTruth-- 01:39, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh the jealousy argument... Listen kid you're way in over your head. Fine you wanna go? lets go. --UnquestionableTruth-- 21:14, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And I will back Bullet up. Consensus has been established by the project already as Bullet has indicated. If he doesn't revert it I will. !! Justa Punk !! 04:06, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Re: Linda McMahon article

Hello. You left a message on my talk page a few days ago asking me to check out the Linda McMahon article. I've done so this afternoon, and I've got to say that the article seems quite thorough. It has tripled in bytes over the past six months, in large part due to your contributions. For the most part, I think the article is good, though perhaps some sections could be split into their own articles, especially the one on her run for Senate. Such an article would probably be justified already due to her prominent campaign, and ever more so if she should win the GOP nomination.

I have also noticed on the article's talk page that a photo of Linda on the campaign trail might be helpful. Too bad I didn't have my camera with me, because I briefly met her at a dinner in late March. If I happen to run into her again, however, I'll try to take such a photo. I can't make any promises, though. --Sgt. R.K. Blue (talk) 20:27, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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sigh... I explained it to you before. Then I told you to take it to PW if you still disagreed. PW decided it was barely notable. Then you continued to fight over. Finally, they told you to let it go. Once again, let it go. Consensus stands. --UnquestionableTruth-- 17:50, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ROFLMAO @ how delusional you're acting...--UnquestionableTruth-- 02:29, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Once again, I remind you that WT:PW deemed the subject barely notable. If you still disagree, I invite you to restate your case at WT:PW. However please note that your continued defiance of the consensus is disruptive, which is more than enough to warrant a block. --UnquestionableTruth-- 21:49, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

May 2010

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to Wikipedia. However, please know that editors do not own articles and should respect the work of their fellow contributors on World Wrestling Entertainment. If you create or edit an article, know that others are free to change its content. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Curtis23's Usalions 20:49, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WWE Change in Programming

I started a new discussion about it at WT:PW#WWE Change in Programming so you can see that consensus is reached that the Change in Programming doesn't warrant it's own section.--Curtis23's Usalions 22:14, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Canvassing

Would you thank someone for a oppose comment?--Curtis23's Usalions 23:45, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WWE edit warring

Although you are not in violation of 3RR, your edits to this article definitely constitute edit warring. Discussion to reach consensus needs to take place; if problems continue after that, there are obviously other steps to take. Constant reverting violates Wikipedia policy, though. Keep it real, GaryColemanFan (talk) 05:19, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't care who's right and who's wrong. If you checked, you would see that I left the same message on his page. You need to stop with the edit war, or this will be referred to the Administrator's Noticeboard. GaryColemanFan (talk) 22:13, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Screwball, until you provide sources to prove notability you are outside WP rules with the edit you are pushing. At present what you are doing is nothing more than WP:OR. Prove what you say is true. Just saying "everyone knows it" is worth absolutely zero on Wikipedia. !! Justa Punk !! 04:30, 21 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You provided no links that were reliable. Therefore it is not notable under Wikipedia rules. Individual opinion of whether or not it's notable is irrelevant. You have to prove that it's notable with reliable third party independent sources. You have failed to do that, and it's why the Project consensus is that it's not notable. You are trying to place your own opinion ahead of the rules of this encyclopedia. I also note that you are having issues with another article for similar reasons re sources AKA referencing. Get the hint - you are doing it wrong. !! Justa Punk !! 21:38, 21 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I listened. You didn't. Indeed - the conversation is over and it's not my fault but yours. !! Justa Punk !! 02:44, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Blumenthal revert

Know what you are talking about before reverting - or ask and I'll help you.Victor9876 (talk) 18:09, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stop destroying the Warrior article

You are currently abusing the Wikipedia policy on citations. Cease and desist or you will receive administrator action.--Screwball23 talk 17:57, 21 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wrong answer. I am an administrator and I am responding to complaints from the subject by removing poorly cited or uncited contentious material. Guy (Help!) 18:07, 21 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have the ticket for the complaint source? SilverserenC 18:11, 21 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, whatever. Hey, Screwball, here. Get to referencing! I'll be helping out. SilverserenC 18:23, 21 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'd advise you to stop pushing him, he will block you. He really is in a good mood today, considering he hasn't already. He gave you the ticket complaint number, which means that there was a complaint, so there's nothing you can do. Just focus on referencing what is there and we'll see about the rest later. It'll always be in the history of the page, regardless, if you need it again. SilverserenC 19:04, 21 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

CT Senate race

I do work extremely hard on election articles. Thanks. Unless if an election article is very prominent and has a lot of information, only one or two lead paragraphs are necessary. In the case of this election, the primaries haven't even started yet. So the best thing to do is to have one paragraph, simply saying how the incumbent, Chris Dodd, isn't running and how McMahon/Blumenthal are the front runners.

On another note, I'm really confused...Do you understand how the nominating system works in Connecticut?--Jerzeykydd (talk) 12:26, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hey again. I just wanted to let you know that I'm tying to make the election article as less confusing as possible, which is why I seperated convention and primary candidates.--Jerzeykydd (talk) 15:17, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm getting a little frustrated with you. I don't care so much about whether or not Linda McMahon is the nominee. What I'm getting angry about is the candidate sections. How do people suppose to know who was on the convention ballot and who was on the primary ballot? You keep reverting what I do... and people including myself get confused about what's going on. For example, some candidates didn't get into the primary because they didn't perform well enough in the convention. I don't understand your way of thinking. Why in the world do you oppose seperating the candidates section between primary and convention?--Jerzeykydd (talk) 18:42, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • I understand that Blumenthal is the nominee.--Jerzeykydd (talk) 19:14, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Please don't add all those people to the infobox. The infobox is only for the official party nominee. As of now, there is no official Republican nominee. --Muboshgu (talk) 03:10, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think we've been talking about somewhat different things, which has made for some confusion. The article text can mention that McMahon has the party support. But that infobox at the top of the page is only for official party nominees. The party, simply, does not yet have a nominee as of yet. Maybe the best way, if you feel it's unfair to show Blumenthal in that box and no Republican, is just to take it down until the Republican primary happens. --Muboshgu (talk) 07:56, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not a Schiff supporter. Quite the contrary, I've noticed that you are clearly a McMahon supporter adding bias into the article. The "rule" that you're referring to about only nominees going in the infobox should be clear in that the line you input on is labeled "nominee", which McMahon is not, unless she indeed wins the primary, which won't happen until August. --Muboshgu (talk) 01:41, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Catch this bit of news yet? That is why Linda McMahon should not have been considered a "presumptive" nominee. As Yogi Berra once said, "it ain't over till it's over". --Muboshgu (talk) 18:16, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

24h 3RR block

I have blocked you for 24 hours for violation of the 3RR rule, reverting over three times in one 24 hour period. Attempts were made to discuss the issue with you, none of the other editors have breached 3RR - yet multiple users have reverted you and you continued to war with them. S.G.(GH) ping! 18:26, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WWE Re:

I have and I have made comments on the talk page along with others.--Steam Iron 04:07, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Screwball, I strongly recommend that you drop this. You claim that you have been calmly discussing matters in effect, but your conduct is bordering of fixated and you are upsetting other editors with this. You have been asked to provide more sources given that you state that there are many articles and reports in your support and you have failed to do so. The sources you have provided are not enough. I can see you being banned again if you persist on your current line as it seems that you are refusing to listen. Your claim that there's a gang after you is only happening because you are the threat to the article and not them. Not because you are right or wrong, but because you insist that you are right and you won't listen when it is proven you are wrong.
Please. Just drop it. Or answer Justa Punk's challenge and provide the two dozen sources. If there are as many articles and reports as you claim this should be a simple task. If you don't, you will never get your way and unless you want to suffer a long term ban you must drop this. Just some friendly advice. RICK ME DOODLE YOU DOODLE 07:53, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stop splitting the posts. There is one topic under discussion; does the tempering of the recent (in the last 18 months) WWE product constitute a new "era" (that is a distinct from the WWE Universe "era"). As all you are doing is arguing in circles and claiming that other editors are not listening whilst not listening yourself or providing any references to back up your assertion you may find the patience of other editors tested to the point of an ANI report and a topic ban. If you want to make progress offer references to back up your edit, otherwise move on. And don't call me names in an edit summary, your attempt to split the section have been reverted twice. Darrenhusted (talk) 16:46, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

3RR, again.

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on World Wrestling Entertainment. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If the edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. For the record 4:24 21 June 2010 version reverted to, 5:36 21 June 2020 1RR, 17:55 21 June 2010 2RR. Darrenhusted (talk) 17:11, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Canvassing (part deux)

Keep it up... I mean you've done it before... btw I don't know where or how you see this as a personal issue. Believe me when I personally say it's NOT a personal issue. It's a WP:NPOV, WP:OR, and WP:RS issue. Also why you think Justa Punk has gone nuts is beyond me. Perhaps its your way of fluffing up the issue for the users you keep canvassing... Hmm. --UnquestionableTruth-- 05:52, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A person who has to bolden his complaints, lose his temper, and give lectures on "how wikipedia works" while giving arbitrary commands on 24 refs is not completely healthy. His refusal to join mediation with an impartial moderator is another indication that something is up. --Screwball23 talk 21:42, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A person who has to ask around for multiple admins and different forums is actually the leading indication that someone's panicking. Additionally, RFM is impossible for disputes with multiple parties involved - another indication the someone still doesn't know how wikipedia works... Happy canvassing! --UnquestionableTruth-- 22:02, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Get real. You didn't have the balls to join the mediation and now you want to criticize me for getting third party opinions? I think you know how wikipedia works so well that you are afraid of losing. --Screwball23 talk 17:46, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Watch yourself with the Personal Attacks (yet another indication that someone's panicking) or you might find yourself on the wrong end of another block. Finally, as I am sure you were told by another admin, RFM's are not for disputes involving multiple parties... and yet you still don't get it. --UnquestionableTruth-- 18:59, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Stop forum shopping; 3O, editor assistance, RFC and mediation is three steps too far. No matter how many people you canvas it will not change the basic fact that the text you want to insert is not up to standards. Darrenhusted (talk) 16:56, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What standards? You keep mentioning the links to Bleacher report, but the others are perfectly legitimate. I know you are full of it, and your refusal to join mediation has made it clear that you don't want to solve this productively. I spoke with Wasted Time because he has undoubtedly dealt with some creepy and obsessive editors before.--Screwball23 talk 21:42, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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You are editing against consensus. Podgy Stuffn (talk) 04:22, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What are you talking about ? The consensus was never established. The discussion has continued, and I am finally talking with an individual who read my references and is willing to talk about the material. The discussion before was just a bunch of emotionally unstable blabber that completely avoided the facts. Please read the talk page and join the discussion on the newest thread.--Screwball23 talk 04:26, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Again, STOP canvassing. Begging people to read, and re-read, and re-re-read your argument isn't going to help your case, neither is accusing others of biases simply because they don't agree with you. Stop edit warring. --UnquestionableTruth-- 07:36, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Talk:Codex Vaticanus/GA2

Feel free to take over rest of review/promotion/etc as GA Reviewer. No worries, and thank you! Yours, -- Cirt (talk) 20:13, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reply re Talk:Codex Vaticanus/GA2

I fixed your previous edits. You still need to do the rest of the "pass" steps, laid out at WP:GAN. -- Cirt (talk) 01:30, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Number of leaves

Yes you are right it is not very important information for the lead. Number of leaves is mentioned in section "Description". Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 07:50, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't think the Linda McMahon article is ready to be a good article nomination. I can give it a pre-review if you'd like. Nikki311 19:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Don't feel sorry

On a recent edit, you expressed regret at deleting someone's addition to the external links section, feeling it was likely his first edit. There's no need to feel sorry - that IP has been doing a lot of edits, and what a coincidence - they all seem to be adding external links to commentaries by the same author! --Nat Gertler (talk) 02:01, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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At Wikipedia:Good article nominations#Literature you are listed as the reviewer for Codex Vaticanus. The review has been open for several weeks and it appears that work has stalled. Can this review be completed soon? Or is more time required? --maclean (talk) 20:17, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You are doing this review right? It's had three reviewers stall out on it already, please finish it... Wizardman Operation Big Bear 02:17, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you have abandoned tthis review, please have the courtesy to say so on the review page. Otherwise please finish it now. Jezhotwells (talk) 15:11, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Linda McMahon

Hi Screwball, could you better help me understand your position on the McMahon article? I don't see the relevance of a pre-1993 (when she assumed control) trial of a company doctor, especially when the article is about Ms. McMahon herself, not the company. I'm willing to be convinced otherwise, however. What do you feel this adds to our understanding of Linda herself? Thanks. Fell Gleamingtalk 15:05, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I must note you've made 3 reversions to this article within 24 hours. In case you're not familiar with the the Wikipedia three-revert rule, you may want to read about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FellGleaming (talk • contribs) 23:47 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Linda McMahon

Hi. Just noticed the battle going on over this article. It's not my fight, but I thought I'd just mention to you it's my cursory impression that Fell Gleaming is beyond 3RR at this point on the article. You might want to be careful yourself, btw; I think - again from a very cursory look - that you might be at 2RR, at least. Best,  – OhioStandard (talk) 22:44, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

a tip

My experience engaging in and watching editorial disagreements has lead me to believe that accusing the opposition of improper motives only hurts your case, even when - no, especially when - the accusation is accurate. You're not telling the opponent anything they didn't know, and you're not looking to the undecided like you're working from a calm and reasoned position. --Nat Gertler (talk) 03:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, that makes a lot of sense. You're telling me my accusations are accurate, but you still want to revert me because I don't know how to play an editorial disagreement? This is a very black day for wikipedia. :-(--Screwball23 talk 03:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No, I'm reverting your mass-reversion because in doing it, you reverted even things that you had agreed to, such as reintroducing much of the ringboy material. I didn't have time at the moment to sort out all of what should be restored and what should not. And no, I was not telling you that your accusations were accurate. I was saying that believing you're telling the truth - even telling the truth - does not make it an effective strategy. --Nat Gertler (talk) 03:51, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Nat's right in his first assertion here, SB. And he wasn't attacking you, either. On the contrary, he was offering valuable and helpful advice. Telling your interlocuter he's biased isn't any kind of effective strategy at all, because no one really thinks of themselves as biased and they just take offense. It antagonizes the person, and regardless of whether the accusation has any truth to it or not, it doesn't generally impress onlookers, either, who always decide such things for themselves. I know you're very invested in this article, but he's right in saying that calm, reasoned disputation is much more likely to have the effect you want, both on the person you're disputing with, and with respect to observers, as well. None of this is meant as any reflection on reverts or on content, btw. I'm not familiar enough with the history here, or with who agreed to what, to offer any opinon on that.  – OhioStandard (talk) 12:33, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

3RR

Please read WP:3RR as you have now made 3 straight reverts on Linda McMahon and 8 in only four days. Consider this a warning about edit war behaviour on that article. Collect (talk) 10:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Linda

Hi your being reverted by multiple editors, perhaps more discussion is the answer. Off2riorob (talk) 15:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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FYI , you are edit warring on the Linda McMahon article, please stop. Off2riorob (talk) 15:08, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

September 2010

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New compromise

I have a solution to the polling problems!!! Refer to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Elections and Referendums to the polling, new compromise section.--Jerzeykydd (talk) 23:06, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Linda McMahon. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If the edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice.

Let me give you some advice, both as an Arbitration Committee clerk and an editor who has been around for a couple years. There is zero chance that ArbCom will accept this dispute as currently filed. There is no evidence of prior dispute resolution besides communication processes. Generally for this type of thing to progress to ArbCom, at the very least, Deletion Review and a User Request for Comment should have been tried. I suggest that you withdraw your request, speak with a more experienced Wikipedian that you trust to give you good advice, and then pursue Dispute Resolution as suggested on that page. NW (Talk) 01:35, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I have removed your case request per the direction of the arbitrators. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions. NW (Talk) 13:43, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Fell Gleaming

Hi, could you give me an overview and an update in regards to the dispute with FellGleaming? I'm trying to track the problem down and I'm looking for your opinion on the subject. Viriditas (talk) 21:53, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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HELP!!!

please help me man im new to wikipedia and some guy is bullying me its about the goldberg article please refer to the talk page i know you are a goldberg lover and i know you hate to see him get dissed(especially not by some ip editor)

now some guy called Qwyrxian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Qwyrxian keeps insisting im a racist just cause i called someone a malaysian im telling him im not but they keep saying its indisputable and...

as for the ip editor heres a link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:175.144.73.197

he called a xenophobic racist but i only called him ignorant coz he is not looking in the link you put on the talk page to PROVE that goldbergs streak is not KAYFABE i know its not fake coz wcw saturday and some hidden matches like goldberg vs sandman and matches like dark matches were on the down low matches but they still count right?

look up on youtube for the sandman match it was brutal and there was some blood but it was like superman vs singapore can wielding man you gotta see it

i hope you will help and also please request semi protection on the article and please teach me how to do "wikipedia stuff" please coach me TraviaNightmare (talk) 13:59, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reply

Hi, Screwball. This is in reply to your post to my talk page. Normally I like to keep talk-page discussions on the page where they begin, but I infer from your talk page that you probably don't follow that convention and that you might not have "watchlisted" my talk page, to make sure of seeing my reply. Thus my reply here. If you choose to respond you can do so right here, on your own talk page; I'll keep this page watchlisted for a while to make sure I don't miss any reply.

I think you need to be very careful to avoid any appearance of canvassing. Your post to my talk page probably doesn't strictly qualify as such, since I've demonstrated some interest in the article, but it's very close. I really don't have a lot to say beyond this; the behavior on all sides has been pretty unfortunate, imo.

There was a non-WP matter that I thought you might appreciate having some info about, however, regarding one of your interests. I wanted to e-mail you about that, but I notice you don't have that function enabled. So if you're interested, feel free to e-mail a quick "ping" to my all-lowercase, all-one-word Wikipedia user name at gmail dawt youknowwhat. ( I'm trying to keep the the evil spam bots away, of course. ) If you have only a personally-identifying e-mail account, feel free to create a generic "throwaway" account at gmail or yahoo, or wherever; it's probably wisest not to disclose one's name or other personally-identifying information to a stranger online, even in e-mail.

I have been and continue to be on something of a wikibreak just now, btw, so I might not get back to you very promptly if you post here, fyi. Btw, you know you're allowed to delete or archive your talk page messages, just as you prefer, right? There's an awful lot of old stuff here that makes navigating the page a bit more cumbersome than necessary. Best,  – OhioStandard (talk) 00:23, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Blocked for 2 weeks

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hear me out

i'm new, but just wanted to say you can't go around doing bad stuff on wikipedia. it's bad. so remove it or lose it (yo account). behave now, cuz you gotta Tanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Phone Man (talk • contribs) 21:05, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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Hi, Screwball. I've made it clear on other pages that I disapprove very strongly of the behavior that you were blocked for, so I won't comment further on that here. And although the ANI thread in which you were blocked has now rolled off to archives, I feel obligated to tell you that there is a related discussion ongoing on the talk page of the admin who blocked you, King of Hearts. Two admins and one user have asked me to provide diffs to support my opinion that you weren't the only one edit-warring over the McMahon articles. I've not taken the time and trouble to do so because I think it's very obvious from just the two articles' revision histories, and also (to speak frankly) because I'm very tired of dealing with the problem. But since you weren't able to respond at all at ANI before you were blocked, you can present any evidence you might like to present here. I'd be willing to inform King of Hearts if you post here, so he could evaluate whatever you might wish to say.  – OhioStandard (talk) 21:34, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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McMahon

Your edit warring the templates, please move to proper discussion and take this as a warning, thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 02:08, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You are not listening to me. Communication here is a two-way street. The template was never justified. I am working 1,000 times harder than everyone else here. I not only researched and then built the section, I put the refs in, and now I'm being challenged because people don't want to read the refs. Instead, I have people claiming that the material is uncited. How does someone handle that? The fact of the matter is, the tipoff memo is factually accurate. Read about Wikipedia's policy on POV - no one has ever raised their so called "disputes" or "objections" to the section, so obviously there is nothing to discuss.--Screwball23 talk 02:14, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at it, you are over 3RR and under the circumstances that is very disappointing indeed, a thread was opened for discussion and still you revert. You are well enough experienced not to need warning about it. I am minded to report you immediately.Off2riorob (talk) 02:16, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What discussion? I don't see anything. You should be ashamed of accusing uncited statements when I am offering clear references for you to read. That is closed-minded behavior.--Screwball23 talk 02:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

November 2010

This is your only warning. If you add defamatory content to Wikipedia again, as you did at Linda McMahon, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. You have been edit warring against multiple editors to include poorly sourced BLP material. Even if such material were properly sourced, it would violate WP:UNDUE. You have repeatedly reverted other editors without cause, when those editors were attempting to improve the NPOV of the article's wording. You are now (as if you weren't already) formally on notice that any future edit to this article which has the net effect--intended or not, revert or new material, today or some point in the future--of a BLP violation, broadly construed will result in your being blocked for such action. The sole defense against such future blocking will be demonstrated evidence that you have reached consensus for the edits on the article talk page. Jclemens (talk) 01:16, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is absolute bullying. You are a disgrace of a wikipedian, and I should report your garbage to an administrator. I put on well-researched info and that reference was there for the longest time. All of a sudden, editors who have misinterpretted the NPOV policies to remove anything that is factual just because it might not look good are taking aim at this page and want to delete like its going out of style...and instead of logical arguments, all I am encountering is a gang of people who have the worst bad faith of anything I've seen. How is it suddenly an issue that the Counterfeit Hero reference is used? It was always there, and the facts were always there. There is nothing wrong with the reference.
As far as your accusations of UNDUE weight, I know and you know that you are full of baloney. Her memo to Patterson was significant not only during the trial, but during her campaign. To say that it should be abbreviated is a disservice to readers, who will not be able to form an objective opinion of her actions simply because you decided you should take it upon yourself to "summarize" what happened instead of letting the quote stay. I had this argument with Collect and his gang before, and they never won the argument. You can't either, and since you're desperate, you are going to try and abuse wikipedia's blocking policy to scare me away. --Screwball23 talk 01:56, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You're free to rant all you want, but the next time you place BLP-violating material (either directly, or by reverting someone else's removal) into the article, you will be blocked from editing. You don't appear to be understanding the entire point of the WP:BLP policy. I'd encourage you to read through the noticeboard and see what other sorts of problems come up and how they're handled, to get a better perspective on the topic. If you don't want to do that, I don't see how you can contribute positively to Wikipedia articles involving living people. One thing you don't appear to be getting is the spectrum of viewpoints represented in the variety of editors who have reverted you and/or told you that you are proceeding in a manner against consensus. While it's certainly possible for everyone in this corner of Wikipedia to be ganging up on you, it's far more likely that you're simply not understanding consensus. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 21:23, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Screwball23, Thank you for the Barnstar. Iss246 (talk) 06:08, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


I copy edited the Malati Dasi entry today as part of the drive to work on the backlog. Of course, I would welcome your taking a look at the entry. Iss246 (talk) 16:34, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm grateful for what you are doing with the lead of the above article at the moment. Right from the get-go I've had trouble with phrasing the thing - never done one before and even at the GA review neither I nor the reviewer were wonderfully happy with my attempts. - Sitush (talk) 15:18, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Watching remarks elsewhere, and assuming good faith can I suggest you start and work up an article on Craven Brothers- a defunct company specialising in machine tools, so we can better appreciate your ideas this will show you the sort of mills and planers they made- yes big, very big. There would be some interesting analysis on why they went down in 19070 in spite of a rumoured full order book. --ClemRutter (talk) 21:36, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Consensus

You have the concept of consensus all wrong - the dispute process is after something is reverted, discuss. In other words, if there is a dispute (as there clearly is), you need consensus to add it, not remove it.

Also, the vandal tag was an accident; my apologies for that. :) Toa Nidhiki05 17:55, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What is your rationale for removing it? It is abusive to delete something without rationale, and then use the hazy excuse of "no consensus". And for you to claim that there is no consensus for an edit just seconds after I posted it is absolute nonsense. Consensus, by definition, requires more than one person.--Screwball23 talk 18:00, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Read up on dispute resolution, particularly this process - there is already consensus against that based on other rulings on the page. If you want to change that, cool, but do it the proper way rather than forcing it through. Toa Nidhiki05 18:17, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If I have no rationale for your revert, what am I supposed to do? Come one, give me something to work with here. Is it something personal? Why are you so upset by my edits here?--Screwball23 talk 18:23, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have no issue and have not been involved on that page - but there is consensus against edits like that on the page, and thus I reverted it. What is so difficult about going to the talk page and discussing it with other editors? The page is not subservient to your will alone. Toa Nidhiki05 18:26, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Edits like that?" Like what? For a person who "has not been involved on that page", you seem to know a lot about its consensus. Can you even tell me what consensus you are talking about? Seriously, if you have no issue, what am I discussing here? I'm supposed to discuss an edit issue with a person who doesn't have an issue?--Screwball23 talk 18:31, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Screwball, I am not involved - but that does not mean I have not been observing. The fact is, labels along the lines of 'absolute ruler' and 'absolute dictator' have been rejected many, many times by consensus - this also applies to future edits along the same lines. If you want to change consensus, start an RfC - otherwise, you need to follow the consensus that has been reached by your fellow editors.
You also appear to be taking this personally, when this is no personal issue - I reverted your edit that violates page consensus, and you seem quite angry and think I am out to get you or something.

I will reiterate - why can you not at least try and reach consensus with your fellow editors? You do not own the page. If you are not capable of doing something that simple, I honestly don't see why you are on a collaborative project. Toa Nidhiki05 18:38, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's not true and you know it. My edits regarding his Cult of personality were removed because of your claims of "consensus". Now, you are generalizing both that and his status as an absolute dictator, and trying to claim I'm forcing something against consensus without making it clear what you are talking about. I want you to see where I'm coming from - you are a person who claims to know consensus, and yet you have no issue, no reason to back up your reverts. I will tell you again to read Wikipedia: don't revert due to "no consensus" Check the talk page on Gaddafi, because I am discussing the facts there.--Screwball23 talk 18:49, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Screw, please assume good faith and stop the personal attacks. Accusing me of lying is not assuming good faith. Once again, what is the issue with holding an RfC on something that is clearly disputed? You still haven't answered that question. Toa Nidhiki05 18:53, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What is your dispute? Why can't you answer that question? You keep trying to point to some established consensus, saying that there's been a Wikipedia:PRIOR#Prior_discussion on this, and I have to tell you, I don't see any reason why a consistently-verified edit is being challenged by you.
I don't see any reason why you can't take this to an RfC and discuss it other than that you don't want to collaborate with others. Toa Nidhiki05 19:44, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Assume good faith and stop the personal attacks--Screwball23 talk 20:26, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gaddafi

HI

Just to let you know I have completed a copyedit on the Muammar Gaddafi article. Chaosdruid (talk) 01:07, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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Mr. Stradivarius 07:15, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively.

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Removal of talk page post

Hi

I realise that you may have been a little upset, but removing my post is definitely against policy Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines#Others.27_comments. The post did not attack you in anyway shape or form, and its removal was definitely not covered by WP:NPA.

Changing the article against already agreed consensus needs to find new consensus before changes to it are made. As you seem to think that you can simply remove talk page comments that you disagree with, and quote a policy that does not apply, I think it best that you reconsider and revert your removal. Chaosdruid (talk) 16:18, 29 July 2011 (UTC) PS I use the WikiChecker article count to see who are the main contributors to articles, perhaps it is innacurate?, nonetheless that is all we have to go on: Phase4 (36) Avanu (33) Jbower47 (31) AFarmer64 (22) Screwball23 (21) Chaosdruid (talk) 17:16, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gaddafi (reply)

Hi; I apologize for taking so long to reply to your comment on my talk page, and also for having said or done anything that might have caused offense or seemed to undermine the value of your contribution. Just so you know, I'm working on a thorough response to your comment (I'm planning to place it on article talk, if you wouldn't mind, because I feel that our concerns are relevant to the article and to its editors in general). My editing has been really sporadic lately, however, and I don't know exactly when I'll have a chance to post my reply (although I'll aim for sooner rather than later). So, in fairness to you, I will not even consider "re-reverting" (i.e., I will not deliberately again revert) any of your prior edits to the article until, at the very soonest, I have produced the rationale that you requested. Let me know if you have any questions. Sincerely, Cosmic Latte (talk) 00:04, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Muammar Gadaffi

Please review the DYK rules before nominating articles. Your nomination of Template talk:Did you know/Muammar Gaddafi was rejected because the article does not meet DYK's criteria. rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:40, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Muammar map

Hello, Screwball23! Thanks for writing! Technically, I didn't make the John Paul II map, but I made the blank world map that it and most other maps on Wikipedia (at least the SVG versions) are based on. I don't have much free time to work on it, never mind to do your request, but there are instructions both on the talk page of the file on Commons, and in the first few lines of the SVG code itself (open the file with a text reader like Notepad). Thanks also for the barnstar offer, but I basically set out to improve an existing map with my very limited SVG knowledge and donate the end result to Wikipedia to let other turn it into what it's become on the site. So my reward is seeing it used rather than praise (besides, I always maintain that the SVG wizards who created the original (like User:Brianski) that I just improved deserve far more praise and barnstars than I. --Canuckguy (talk) 23:08, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Muammar Gaddafi

Hello there. I am sorry to say, but that was not me who made the Libya map. I have no idea why my name was on it, but whatever. Besides that, I would be willing to do a quick map for you, I see nothing wrong with that. --NuclearVacuum (talk) 16:36, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

CT 2012 Senate Race

Thank you for the back-up. While I do a lot of polling edits, I'm not all against how you feel. But I suppose that a debate for another day. =) With that said, this is a encyclopedia, and as long as polls are included, they should at least be from a reliable source!! Thank you again! America69 (talk) 00:00, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Non-free use disputed for File:Obamaarab_mccain2008.jpg

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August 2011

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively.

In particular, the three-revert rule states that:

  1. Making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block.
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Thanks

Thanks for following up on the recent modifications to the Gaddafi article. It seems like several editors are getting fairly zealous with the recent news, and I tried to revert a little, but your work was much more thorough. -- Avanu (talk) 01:51, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:GaddafionTimemagazine.jpg listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:GaddafionTimemagazine.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Sir Armbrust Talk to me Contribs 16:07, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Gaddafimoney.jpg listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Gaddafimoney.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Sir Armbrust Talk to me Contribs 16:12, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

August 2011

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Republican Party (United States) presidential primaries, 2012. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively.

In particular, the three-revert rule states that:

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Linda McMahon wrestler contracts?

About this edit - do you see wrestler contracts in the reference? Do you have a different reference that says it? --GRuban (talk) 04:27, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop. Continuing to remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to File:Saif al-Islam Gaddafi.jpg, without resolving the problem that the template refers to may be considered disruptive editing. Further edits of this type may result in your account being blocked from editing Wikipedia. Melesse (talk) 06:33, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Replaceable fair use File:Obamaarab_mccain2008.jpg

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This is your last warning. The next time you remove the maintenance templates from Wikipedia articles without resolving the problem that the template refers to, as you did at File:Obamaarab mccain2008.jpg, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Melesse (talk) 03:53, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Friendly word of advice – please do not remove templates unless the problem has been fixed. Deletion templates must not be removed whilst the deletion is under consideration.
Re the image of Saif Gadaffi, I think that there may be an argument for its retention in the article on its subject. I've mentioned this at ANI and started a discussion on the talk page of the image. I not that you have already disputed the deletion of the image. You are welcome to put forward your views at the talk page, where you have much more room to state your case. Mjroots (talk) 05:45, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Republican Party (United States) presidential primaries, 2012

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Republican Party (United States) presidential primaries, 2012. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively.

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Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Talk:Republican_Party_(United_States)_presidential_primaries,_2012. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 00:22, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

AN/I

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Disputed non-free use rationale for File:Bob Turner9thcongressional.jpg

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pictures of living people

Hi, its as I understand the correct position of policy anf guidelines that living public figures require a commons compatible picture - because its just so easy t get one - adding a non commons picture to the infobox of such a person stops people looking for what we want, a commons licensed picture. You could try (I do this sometimes) emailing the subject and letting him know about the article, provide a link to it, and ask him if he would be willing to contribute a picture for the article under a commons license. Off2riorob (talk) 01:28, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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RE: Restoring pic to Bob Turner (politician)

I am writing you because you used my name in an edit summary and because I truly do not understand why you re-added the pic of Bob Turner.[4] It could be that you are unaware of discussion on my talk page, and Off2riorob's where I indicated I did not plan on restoring the pic to the article [5] [6] [7]. I believe you may be unaware of that discussion because I certainly did not know, at the time I did my single restoration of the pic, and at the time I asked Off2riorob about the policy, that you and Off2riorob had already discussed the removal of the pic on both your talk page and his.

Incivility aside, within his most recent remarks Off2riorob has now stated the not unreasonable view that "The fact that it has yet to be deleted is no excuse to keep it in the article". I am now thinking that perhaps the free use and deletion policies are unclear or silent on the matter of whether a tagged pic should be removed from articles pending a final determination--but that is another matter. I do believe, that for the moment, or at least in this instance, it is not unreasonable to think the answer is yes, challenged pic should be removed during that time period. So my suggestion is that you remove the pic, but you can do what you want, I have made only one reversion and I am not going to get involved at all in an edit war over an issue where essentially we all agree on the free use policy. -Regards-KeptSouth (talk) 11:14, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Screw, as it stands the pic is going to be deleted because he's still alive and we need permission. Sometimes you can find free pics on Flickr. Have you considered asking him for permission? It's easy. Check this out WP:COPYREQ. If you don't get a response before they delete it, not to worry--you just upload it again when you have permission. – Lionel (talk) 13:37, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Lionelt - Thanks for the advice. The odd thing is, both Screwball and I emailed the campaign for permission, and Screwball also said he would not be re-adding the pic-which is another reason why all of this should be a non-issue. See - User:Off2riorob#Bob Turner .28politician.29 It's not a bad picture either. Not too many people look that good at age 70. -Regards-KeptSouth (talk) 16:40, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding map

I am currently very busy. I have a lot of school work at the moment. Please sent me the country list, but I can't promise I can get it done and I can't promise it will be quick. Thegreyanomaly (talk) 05:08, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Turner office cleaning

Hi, I started a discussion about whether this should be in the article [8], and though hilarious, I don't think so. Please weigh in if you want. -Regards-KeptSouth (talk) 15:51, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have no strong feelings on this issue.--Screwball23 talk 18:11, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The Right Stuff: September 2011

The Right Stuff
September 2011
FROM THE EDITOR
An Historic Milestone

By Lionelt

Welcome to the inaugural issue of The Right Stuff, the newsletter of WikiProject Conservatism. The Project has developed at a breakneck speed since it was created on February 12, 2011 with the edit summary, "Let's roll!" With over 50 members the need for a project newsletter is enormous. With over 3000 articles to watch, an active talk page and numerous critical discussions spread over various noticeboards, it has become increasingly difficult to manage the information overload. The goal of The Right Stuff is to help you keep up with the changing landscape.

The Right Stuff is a newsletter consisting of original reporting. Writers will use a byline to "sign" their contributions. Just as with The Signpost, "guidelines such as 'no ownership of articles', and particularly 'no original research', will not necessarily apply."

WikiProject Conservatism has a bright future ahead: this newsletter will allow us tell the story. All that's left to say is: "Let's roll!"

PROJECT NEWS
New Style Guide Unveiled

By Lionelt

A new style guide to help standardize editing was rolled out. It focuses on concepts, people and organizations from a conservatism perspective. The guide features detailed article layouts for several types of articles. You can help improve it here. The Project's Article Collaboration currently has two nominations, but they don't appear to be generating much interest. You can get involved with the Collaboration here.

I am pleased to report that we have two new members: Rjensen and Soonersfan168. Rjensen is a professional historian and has access to JSTOR. Soonersfan168 says he is a "young conservative who desires to improve Wikipedia!" Unfortunately we will be seeing less of Geofferybard, as he has announced his semi-retirement. We wish him well. Be sure to stop by their talk pages and drop off some Wikilove.


ARTICLE REPORT
3,000th Article Tagged

By Lionelt

On August 3rd Peter Oborne, a British journalist, became the Project's 3,000th tagged article. It is a tribute to the membership that we have come this far this quickly. The latest Featured Article is Richard Nixon. Our congratulations to Wehwalt for a job well done. The article with the most page views was Rick Perry with 887,389 views, not surprising considering he announced he was running for president on August 11th. Follwing Perry were Michele Bachmann and Tea Party movement. The Project was ranked 75th based on total edits, which is up from 105th in July. The article with the most edits was Republican Party (United States) presidential primaries, 2012 with 374 edits. An RFC regarding candidate inclusion criteria generated much interest on the talk page.


A few things

Hi Screw! I just wanted to stop by and mention a few things. First, wondering what's going on with McMahon? That article is ready for WP:GAN. Don't you want a star on your userpage?

Second I've noticed you're having some difficulty with your uploads. I have a decent grasp of free/non-free and would be happy to give you some tips on preventing deletions. Also I just created the Commons branch of WikiProject Conservatism. It's just getting off the ground. Check it out here: [9].

You seem to be a magnet for conflict (smile), if you feel like you're getting pushed around please drop a note on my talk. I'd be happy to act as a go-between. TTFN – Lionel (talk) 08:59, 2 October 2011 (UTC) You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at User talk:Lionelt#thanks's talk page.[reply]

October 2011

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors, as you did on User_talk:Lionelt. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. You are welcome to rephrase your comment as a civil criticism of the article. Thank you. Gerardw (talk) 00:58, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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