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==Israeli "Apartheid" Article==

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**Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia. The most common types of vandalism include the addition of obscenities or crude humor, page blanking, or the insertion of nonsense into articles.

Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism. Even harmful edits that are not explicitly made in bad faith are not considered vandalism. For example, adding a personal opinion to an article once is not vandalism — it's just not helpful, and should be removed or restated. Not all vandalism is obvious, nor are all massive or controversial changes vandalism. Careful attention needs to be given to whether changes made are beneficial, detrimental but well intended, or outright vandalism.**

MY ENTRIES ARE NOT VANDALISM. JUSTIFY YOUR LABELING, ADDRESS MY POINTS OR SIMPLY STOP HARASSING ME.


How dare you identify a very clear and reasonable allegation of bias as "vandalism". I'm disgusted with your behaviour, and your willingness to suppress arguments that don't mesh with your ideological foundation. Considering that the page I edited deals with human rights, I find it very salient that you are more than willing to suppress the freedom of expression by turning this site into a dictatorship of the obsessive over the intelligent.


-edit: I noticed that you removed my statement quite quickly. Is there some explanation for succumbing to such cowardice and refusing to address me directly?

I also noticed that you are a self-admitted "Anti-Zionist" and support the Palestinian "Right of Return"-- sidestepping the ridiculous position that Palestinians are any more entitled to the right of return than the Jews expelled from Arab countries, how exactly do you find yourself fit to edit articles as some arbiter of impartiality? Why are you insistent on continuously removing these entries instead of discussing this directly on your TALK page? Are you really such a coward about your positions that you refuse to discuss these issues with me?


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    LOOK HERE AND EXPLAIN YOURSELF:

      • Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia. The most common types of vandalism include the addition of obscenities or crude humor, page blanking, or the insertion of nonsense into articles.

    Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism. Even harmful edits that are not explicitly made in bad faith are not considered vandalism. For example, adding a personal opinion to an article once is not vandalism — it's just not helpful, and should be removed or restated. Not all vandalism is obvious, nor are all massive or controversial changes vandalism. Careful attention needs to be given to whether changes made are beneficial, detrimental but well intended, or outright vandalism.**

    MY ENTRIES ARE NOT VANDALISM. JUSTIFY YOUR LABELING, ADDRESS MY POINTS OR SIMPLY STOP HARASSING ME.


    How dare you identify a very clear and reasonable allegation of bias as "vandalism". I'm disgusted with your behaviour, and your willingness to suppress arguments that don't mesh with your ideological foundation. Considering that the page I edited deals with human rights, I find it very salient that you are more than willing to suppress the freedom of expression by turning this site into a dictatorship of the obsessive over the intelligent.


    -edit: I noticed that you removed my statement quite quickly. Is there some explanation for succumbing to such cowardice and refusing to address me directly?

    I also noticed that you are a self-admitted "Anti-Zionist" and support the Palestinian "Right of Return"-- sidestepping the ridiculous position that Palestinians are any more entitled to the right of return than the Jews expelled from Arab countries, how exactly do you find yourself fit to edit articles as some arbiter of impartiality? Why are you insistent on continuously removing these entries instead of discussing this directly on your TALK page? Are you really such a coward about your positions that you refuse to discuss these issues with me?

    I need to communicarte with you

    I need to communicarte with you, a bit more privately than this page offers. Can you send your email to otherist@actcom.co.il and write in the subject line "Roland Rance address"? Thanks. Adam Keller

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    Roland -- friendly reminder -- do not deal w Fipplet or others simply by reverting back. It's fine that you issued a warning (tho it's not vandalism per se). Try to Talk page or ask for an admin to help bring down the edit warring. Thanks. HG | Talk 15:01, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    His edit to your user page is definitely not vandalism. It's a newbie attempting to communicate with you in a quite civil manner. The fact that he (mis)placed it on your user page does not make it vandalism at all. Pls remember WP:BITE. So, to give a warning or an edit summary that treats it as "vandalism" is improper and arguably misleading. Thanks for your note. HG | Talk 15:19, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Feel free to file report at WP:3RR, that would be helpful. Highly recommend that you do not revert back. HG | Talk 15:19, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I've added information to (or modified) your report at WP:3RRN. Please remember not to revert again yourself or you would be in violation of 3RR. Coppertwig (talk) 15:37, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Capital

    Hello can you please stop chainging the Palestinian Authority capital to Jerusalem? Cause it's not. Im willing to discuss this with you. PNA claim Jerusalem to be the capital of a future palestinian state not the current authority. And furthermore a claim doesn't make Jerusalem ones capital. Fipplet (talk) 11:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Fipplet's user page

    Hello RolandR. The rules say that sockpuppet notices can be removed by the person charged, unless the puppeting is confirmed. ('Confirmed' means that an administrator has ruled on the matter). See Wikipedia:USER#Removal of comments.2C_warnings. EdJohnston (talk) 18:30, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I first checked Template talk:Sockpuppet, which implies that the tags shouuld be retained. RolandR (talk) 18:43, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia:User page is a guideline, while the thing you cited is only a discussion thread. If you read closely, you'll note that there was no consensus reached there. If a person attempting to reinstate a sock warning got into a revert war, I would not want to be the one trying to justify the reverts at the 3RR board. EdJohnston (talk) 20:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    But I always understood (and there is some document about this, though I don't remember where) that there is a difference between a warning, which is intended to draw the user's attention to a guideline or policy, and a sockpuppet tag, which is intended to inform other editors about concern over the user's behaviour. RolandR (talk) 21:10, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    In practice there is no way to prevent a user from removing a sock tag unless they are blocked, or their user page is full protected. Note that I updated WP:Suspected sock puppets/Fipplet and you're welcome to add your own comment there. EdJohnston (talk) 21:25, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Ive now created a separate page for my Swedish Jew User box. Thank you for your help.Fipplet (talk) 12:22, 7 September 2008 (UTC) Yeah I agree it's complicated but I am learning. Thank you very much. Fipplet (talk) 13:19, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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