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Please leave me a message below, if you're so inclined. Nandesuka 20:23, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed you blocked this user the other day. I know you probably don't want to get dragged into the mess she's currently involved in, but I would at least like to point you to the list of possible sockpuppets I compiled on her, as it may help if she tries any shenanigans. --InShaneee 21:09, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Please consider who you are blocking and for what reason. You have now been an admin for two months? I hope that it hasn't gone to your head. In two months you have not only blocked me, but WMC as well! I strongly suggest you consider the appropriateness of such actions, and the Wikipolitics of who you are making enemies with. — Dunc|☺ 23:24, 21 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I carefully considered the appropriateness of blocking you for telling another editor to "fuck off", and for removing your own block, and decided that it was, indeed, appropriate. Your amusing message on my talk page only reinforces the correctness of my decision. But thanks for expressing your concern for my wellbeing. Nandesuka 23:54, 21 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your recent edits there. William M. Connolley 16:23, 23 November 2005 (UTC).[reply]

Thanks from me too :-) Your request for a poll has been advertized by SEW - see:

• • Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fact and Reference Check
  • Wikipedia talk:Forum for Encyclopedic Standards
  • Wikipedia talk:Cite sources
  • Wikipedia talk:Footnotes
  • Wikipedia talk:Verifiability

I have followed him with a clarification on each. Thought you would be interested. Enjoy - Vsmith 02:42, 25 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know. He seems to be missing the point, though. Nandesuka 12:50, 25 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thought I might visit. Congrats on the Admin.- ship position. I'm relatively new here myself, just helped another Wikipedian become a Admin.Martial Law 09:51, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You're misreading. [1]. Phil Sandifer 16:07, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I don't want to wade into the SEWilco battle over footnotes, but I personally do prefer the footnote style, so I was just wondering (because I couldn't find it in any of the discussions I have read) — what is the citation format you prefer? --P3d0 16:55, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I went to the nearby university library and found some books in ENGLISH (yeah!) telling about the unsolved question why most men experience erections when waking up in the morning. The sources are now at the bottom of the page. Hope this will do. --Fromgermany 18:58, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Nice to find I'm not the only one who remembers this title, but all I have to say is -- where was its Wikipedia article when I was trying to produce an entry on it for Mobygames back in May? 8) Pseudo Intellectual

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Circumcision advocacy Jakew 10:21, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

While the 1983 version of Bolo is indeed similar, the current Macintosh (and thus clones) are not in anyway based on any work from Synergistic Software per the author's response. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.games/browse_thread/thread/14a4680563b81134/9826ee67809edab5?lnk=st&q=bolo+apple+%5D%5B&rnum=1#9826ee67809edab5 I have discussed this with other "veteran" Boloers and they agree with my statement, however I felt the need to run this past you before editing anything myself given your edit responses.

Also various links around the Bolo community are rather outdated, yes, however they seem to come back online from time to time. (unsigned comment by 72.129.177.38)

Reading that link, the author doesn't say anything at all about the Apple II Bolo, other than acknowledging its existence by quoting it. Certainly, he doesn't explicitly say "my version is not in anyway based on any work..." So I think you're inferring something that isn't there. Nandesuka 06:36, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

True, but also he does not say "this *is* my work", nor can I find any documentation or otherwise stating that this is the case so your addition to the Bolo wiki is wrong and thus I would be interested in reading where you've found this information other than "it looks the same" which is infact "inferring something that isn't there". The 1983 version is indeed a tank game very similar but the Macintosh version wrote by Stuart Cheshire was not inspired by it.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.bolo/browse_thread/thread/d4dd61913da0069a/a11a4f9f6e80547e?q=1983&rnum=1#a11a4f9f6e80547e

On a lighter note I am not sure if this is the proper place to post such content and would kindly take to any suggestions you have as to where this post would fit in better.

Thanks.

J hood 11:26, 4 December 2005 (UTC)J_hood[reply]

Regarding your comments to chabad. I have to admit I am not the best writer. However when speaking about reverting to a better written version you must take into account, whether this better written version is accurate and in a NPOV. I would like to ask for your help in improving the chabad article from a grammatical view. Thanks. --Eliezer | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 07:09, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I am disappointed to see you believe Eliezer's shameless fictions. And that is what they are. I edit under my Username, RK , and have repeatedly signed my comments. I cannot imagine why would believe otherwise.

It is true that Wikipedia periodically signs people out without noting so, and this has happened to many people, many times. Sometimes the error lies in Wikipedia, sometimes in the contributor's personal computer, and sometimes because of the firewall/security wall that lies between the computer and the internet. A few years ago these problems, with their various sources and solutions, were discussed in the Wiki-En list.

But this cannot possibly apply to me. I re-sign into Wikipedia over and over to prevent this from happening, and I sign my contributions. The comments on the Discussion page clearly say RK , and I am looking at them right now in another window as I type. For Eliezer to try and mislead you and others into believing otherwise is just pathetic, and a violation of all civil norms that Wikipedia contributors are expected to follow.

Please read the comment page: see my quotes, fully signed, for yourself. Elizer's claims that I am doing this anonymously are false and misleading. RK 22:05, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nandesuka, I've put a query on the talk page and the article's on my watchlist now. Let me know whether you're requesting admin action or just that I look at it as an editor. If it's the former, I can't edit the article or express a view, except about what the policies say. Cheers, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 14:10, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, sounds good. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 15:16, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Is this a personal attack? —Locke Cole 00:37, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes, I must say, it's great to see that some of us Wikipedians have such a great capacity for subtle euphemistic humour. An extended vacation? :-) :-) :-) --HappyCamper 03:58, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Is it just me, or is there a growing cult of personality around IRC? I've seen several RfAs recently where I felt it, and the TLA-anti-vandalism crew in particular appear to be going this direction. This isn't a commentary on the nominees per se simply that while the bar is rising all the time elsewhere (what? only 20,000 edits? too soon.) here it seems to be dropping.

Unrelated - There's a straw poll at WP:WEB talk regarding syndication. Feel like jumping in to something hot and seeing what you think?

brenneman^(t)(c) 04:19, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm reduced to spam and begging

(Pictue me on bended me, hands clasped) Please come and voice an opinon at Wikipedia_talk:Websites#Straw_poll regarding the facts of "syndication" indicating notability.
brenneman^(t)(c) 03:29, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you — this is my very first award! I shall put it in a place of honor on my user page. Nandesuka 04:23, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nandesuka. We don't restore copyvio's, period, unless we have permission from the copyright owner. The only solution is to write an original article. Rewriting in place is not acceptable without a total rewrite since it remains a derivative work which the original copyright holder retains partial rights to (and which we thus cannot release).

Please could you redelete any infringing versions of those articles and start from scratch? (Or blank the articles with {copyvio} and rewrite on the /Temp page,but that seems unnecessary.)-Splash^talk 17:34, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well, ok, but this is risky. We have no right to display the copyrighted text in the meantime. Also, if the work is derivative, as I said above, we still can't use it. This is because, in my approximate understanding, the original author retains copyright in the unrewritten parts thus we cannot redistribute them. So only a total rewrite is acceptable. Good faith doesn't extend to what is ultimately stealing others' work. -Splash^talk 17:41, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, I checked, and both articles are definitely copyvios. Storcloud with your intro is fine, but you really do need to redelete the history. There's no way we can justify retaining it. SCinet should not be restored, for the same reasons. It's unfortunate, but cheating isn't allowed under the law, and it's not good-faith (especially given the new message below the edit box). [[SCinet] could be unprotected, however. A close eye would need to be kept on it. -Splash^talk 17:48, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent, you did one, I did the other and now they're fixed! (PS I redirected the lowercase version of Scinet →SCinet)-Splash^talk 18:05, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. I responded to your comment at my RfA page. Hope that helps! :-) WikiFanatic 23:03, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if it were possible for you to muse... to yourself, you understand... on your own talk page? If so, anyone who on his or her own decided to come by and look would be doing so without any prompting. That way, no one ends up in the stocks, getting rotten vegetables with rocks hidden in them thrown at his head.

Also, on another matter, I've been concerned about the lensing effect of IRC for a while. It's not that a candidate is good or bad or that it is always right or wrong, but rather than a candidate's participation in IRC focuses reaction on RFA, and the airing of an issue by a dogged typist there can focus reaction on an AfD, poll, or discussion. This sort of rally point is actually not supposed to be happening. I can't see how anyone can spam talk pages half so effectively with two hours' effort as one can "spam" (meaning influence a vote or deliberation) by hitting IRC for two minutes. On a talk page, someone can say, "Vote for Bob!" On IRC, the person can answer the questions about Bob, can hear how Bob rescues kittens from rooftops, how Bob has vowed to support the good people and bash all the dirty people, etc., and all in far less time. Nor can that be changed so long as the IRC channel exists, as it would be absurd to say "#Wikipedians exists for discussing matters of interest to the Wikipedia community, unless those things are being decided currently." Geogre 10:46, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

eatgray. Ownay Iay avehay nanay eadhay aicheay. Geogre 14:53, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nandesuka, thanks for your note. I haven't finished with Clarkson yet. I'm just in the middle of something else at the moment, but I'll be back to it at some point today. It's kind of hard to know what to do with it because it's so full of Clarksoncruft. ;-) SlimVirgin ^(talk) 17:40, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I just assumed that I had lost face and would have to do things that would make me have to leave in order to make things work out and blah, blah, blah. Thanks for the intervention, here's a barn star for your trouble, my friend. Please let me know if I can help out in the future. karmafist 04:54, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You blocked Pigsonthewing, or tried to: 17:14, 9 December 2005 Nandesuka blocked "User:User:Pigsonthewing" with an expiry time of 48 hours (Violating personal attack parole in edit summaries. ("he clealry hasn't "left", despite the lies to that effect on his user page)"). Notice the extra "User:"? You don't need to type "User:" into the box--it's filled in for you. You will probably want to block the correct username. Cheers! Demi ^T/_C 17:51, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Nandesuka:

Just wanted to drop you a note to say thanks for supporting me in my recent RFA. I was surprised to see you there, and presume that you found your way to my RFA as a consequence of the comments I left Geogre on his talk page. However it transpired, I appreciate your comments and compliments, and will strive to live up to them.

All the best.
→ Ξxtreme Unction {^yakł_blah} 23:33, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Nandesuka, Clearly most people saw the piece for what it was. Hint: Katefan0's statement includes a foreshadowing of "breaching experiment". I used the art form of psuedo-realism (think War of the Worlds) to educate readers on the full force and effect of the Price Anderson Act. Benjamin Gatti 05:35, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nandesuka, I see that you're one of the admins who seems to be online right now. I was wondering if you can help me on this: I believe I can make Wikipedia:Template messages/All and Wikipedia:Template messages/Deletion disappear from Category:Candidates for speedy deletion. I just need Template:Db-reason to be unprotected for a moment. My comments are posted at Category talk:Candidates for speedy deletion. Would you consider giving this a try? Thanks. (I've already managed to prevent "Wikipedia:Template messages/Deletion" from showing up at Category:Attack pages for speedy deletion, evidently) Shawnc 07:00, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the assistance, hopefully the changes are without errors. Shawnc 07:21, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You know what Nandesuka. I don't need your two cents...the block was unreasonable, and if Curps took two seconds to read my contributions along with my messages as he should have none of it would happen. If someone answered the first two "spamms" it wouldn't have gone any farther. So please get out of my wikispace...Chooserr