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Hi, NPalgan2! I wanted to take a moment to formally make your acquaintance and to thank you for your great additions to my formerly-stalled article, The Wood Nymph. It was terrible of me to nominate it for GA, but to then turn my back on it; truth be told, I had gotten distracted by other projects (e.g., The Oceanides and rewriting the biography of Sibelius's student, Leevi Madetoja, as well as pages for some of his attendant works). Moreover, I have had to cut back my work on Wikipedia, due to the demands of school work. I am very glad to see that you have taken over and will assist this article to where we both believe it should be. I see you've added a lot of great content; I might add that I always envisioned a short section on the melodrama under Op. 15, but never got around to it.

I love the musical additions you've made to the article. You might think about adding a few to the FA The Oceanides. Also, I had plans to rewrite En saga and Pohjola's Daughter and Tapiola, but each was backburnered. While the final two are nowhere near ready, I actually have a TON of content finished for the En saga rewrite. You might think about taking a look at that too and finishing the three or four sections I never completed. My energy is spent. Still, it'd be nice to get this content to the main page because En saga is a tremendous piece! I should also add one final point about the Sibelius tone poems project I envisioned: I wanted them to be structured similarly and to have a similar aesthetic. Seems as though you've adhered to this, so we're on the same page. Thanks for keeping the infobox! I'd hate to rewage that war. Do you have plans to update the articles on any of his other compositions? Sgvrfjs (talk) 21:19, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sgvrfis, adding a section on the melodrama and some scores to The Oceanides sounds good. Kudos to you on the work you've been doing on Madetoja. I like the infobox, I have absolutely no plans to demand its removal, but I do feel that a more chronologically appropriate picture for each composition is better than just the 1913 one. En Saga seems like a good place to work, it's pretty short right now. Best, NPalgan2 (talk) 23:51, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
My mistake...you can find the en saga here: User:Sgvrfjs/Ensaga

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I've flagged up a couple minor issues. Nothing much. Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:23, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Ignore that; the bot screwed up. I've put up a thread. I think it's because I didn't remove the older, failed GA nom from the top of the page. Adam Cuerden (talk) 07:29, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As you can probably tell, it's been sorted. Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:07, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Hiya, I was wondering whether you were aware of any sources from Harvard and/or Oxford professors (or any good sources in general) that I might be able to access with regard to the Modern Portrayal of Caracalla. I ask as you seem quite familiar with the topic of Roman history, whereas while I edit almost exclusively within that topic area, am merely somebody who's interested in the topics and have to learn pretty much everything on a certain topic beforehand. Slightly useful as I don't go into the writing with any OR knowledge, but, useless when trying to find a specific detail I know exists, but, not where to find it.

The reason for my creating portrayal sections is that Caracalla is infamous as a cruel and violent tyrant - like Caligula, though, less mad. It was meant to follow on from Elagabalus (an FA - though, I think we'd agree that it's not really an FA at all due to the pervasiveness of primary sources). Elagabalus of course has one of these because the large shift in portrayal that has happened over the last two millenia. In Elagabalus' age he was considered mad, and a heretic with disdain for Rome's way of life. Now, he's a LGBT studies candidate and is viewed more favourably then he used to be. I'm going to try and tackle that whole section by Sat/Sun and then let you and BM go through the article again.

You'll probably notice quite a few prose changes throughout the article, which you've identified as the biggest problem/obstacle to GA. I'll let BM look at that as well, if the prose is nowhere near GA standard then BM can recommend an approach forward. BM has fairly significant experience at the GA level. I've said it myself, I think you're pushing more into the FA level of prose and I strongly disagree with If you are no expert in the English language, it's hard to write get an article to GA level. - I've been there and passed there several times, but, Caracalla is the most ambitious and well known topic I've put up for GA. Also, feel free to list even a hundred prose problems, or point me to specific paragraphs. BM tends to do a thing like; The last two sentences of army policy need to be recast for clarity. I just really don't know what to do with "every few lines" - I'm almost positive that it's not quite that bad, but, simultaenously that does mean that there are still quite a few problems that need cleaning. I'd like to get it to the GA standard and clear it for GA by the end of the month if at all possible. Prose is one of the few things that I think can be fixed fairly quickly, it doesn't require going through and finding sources and citations, just better phrasing, correct punctuation, and grammar.

Thanks for the review and pointing out some obvious glaring problems that I should have noted earlier. Tarantus, are you kidding me, I have literally read Dio's passages on Caracalla two times and not once did I notice that it is actually Tarautus; Such was the life and the end of Tarautas. Though, more commonly Antoninus is used. Oh, and you'll notice I'm terrible at writing short messages - so I broke it down into paragraphs - sorry. Mr rnddude (talk) 13:43, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Today is busy for me but here is a quick note - it’s true that I haven’t done GA review before but I looked at the GA class articles Nero, Tiberius, Caligula and their GA reviews to try and get a sense of what GA reviewers generally demand. Some of these articles make too much use of unmediated primary ancient sources even though they don’t really count as RS, so though I suggest you use modern scholarship quoting ancient sources rather than just straight up cite Dio and Herodian, I won’t fail the article on those grounds (not counting the Historia Augusta, of course). The FA Elagabalus obviously has a lot of material usable in the Caracalla article.

Here are some suggestions for modern scholarly sources not in the article.

CAH volume 12, 2005 (highly authoritative) https://books.google.com/books?id=MNSyT_PuYVMC

D. Potter The Roman Empire at Bay https://books.google.com/books?id=7HKFAgAAQBAJ

R. Syme, Emperors and Biography: Studies in the Historia Augusta (check your local university library)

Here too: https://books.google.com/books?id=QCYDPVx7LQkC&pg=PA472

https://books.google.com/books?id=2p9hCQAAQBAJ&pg=PA69

Book on Elagabalus but has lots of stuff on Caracalla and the family as well: https://books.google.com/books?id=2Tin5C1YnaAC

A historiography section on the lines of this Tiberius#Historiography would be a good idea. NPalgan2 (talk) 22:28, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I didnt expect quite so many sources. Will look at them over the next few days. New comment; I have now had a chance to take a more detailed look at your reply and here are some of my thoughts. I took a look at Tiberius' historiography section, the first three sections dealing with the primary sources is entirely WP:OR, however, the review was in 2008 where standards were very lax so I'm not suprised to see that that was passeable. I'll give a brief example; The most famous sections of his biography delve into the numerous alleged debaucheries Tiberius remitted himself to while at Capri. - Suetonius is cited to this statement. Do we really think Suetonius described a section of his own work as famous? course not, that's either the conclusion of an uncited source, or much more likely, the editors own opinion.
The above said however, I kind of get where you're going with it. My section on classical portrayal I would think is somewhat similar here in terms of the intended content. I suppose you're going for a discussion about Dio's and Herodian's works with regards to Caracalla under separate sections, maybe even a piece on the Historia Augusta. I can try to develop something like that. The medieval legend would remain as is under it's own section, as would the discussion on the French revolution - I mean barring any prose changes.
You mentioned that a discussion of the modern portrayal of Caracalla would only be of interest if it challenged the previous conceptions of him. Well, I have at least one source that focuses on other aspects beyond the "rapine and cruelty" that Dio started and Gibbon perpetuated. Actually for that matter, a section for Gibbon's work might be valuable as well, he is quite well known and he bases his work heavily off of Dio's. A sort of discussion about how works of his era are far more trusting of the original source material than newer scholarship is. I recall reading precisely that in either one of my sources or just somewhere random. I think it would be best to get that sorted first and then we can focus on prose. I'll let you know how I get on with it by the weekend, ping me if you have anything you want me to look at or fix up in the meantime. Mr rnddude (talk) 11:00, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm not sure what you're referring to in the revert, so if you could make it clear on the talk page please do. Otherwise, I'll have to remove that tag again. -- Fuzheado | Talk 20:58, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Stephen Miller undo of a revision

On Feb 15 I added the following 2 sentences to the Stephen Miller article:

  • Miller’s high school curriculum was filled with reading, writing and riling up his fellow students with controversial statements.[1]
  • “At Santa Monica High School, while running for class pres Stephen Miller was boo'd off a stage by over 4000 students. ... [purportedly] due to the volatile content of the speech."[1]

Your undo of this revision stated: this is undue weight from a nonRS. Some mention of miller's activism in HS is OK, but BLP for a highschooler should tread light

I have several issues regarding your rationale:

  1. The 2 sentences I added were not inflammatory nor did the statements attack Mr. Miller. Indeed, per Wiki rules and guidelines these sentences were neutral. I treaded very lightly in selecting only those 2 sentences.
  2. Since the sentences were taken from the New York Daily News - 4th largest newspaper in the U.S. a recipient of many Pulitzer Prizes, The Daily News is considered a Reliable Source.
  3. The 1st sentence I had added to the Wiki article was the 1st sentence in the Daily News article. The remainder of the article supported that contention with evidence and first hand testimony. This sentence was fully supported by evidence and testimony in the remainder of the article.
  4. The cite link to the site of a video obtained by the Washington Post (and Univision). The video speaks for itself as a Reliable Source.
  5. The 2nd sentence was posted by Cody Decker, an American professional baseball player currently a member of the Milwaukee Brewers organization and previously a classmate of Miller at Santa Monica High School. Cody Decker and others were witnesses to Mr. Miller's speech and expressed homogeneous responses. As a public figure, Decker's comments are a Reliable Source.

In summary, these 2 sentences have been Reliably Sourced as an accurate and neutral reportage of Miller as a highschooler. These 2 sentences treaded very lightly, coming nowhere close to some of the inflammatory recollections of other classmates. These 2 sentences reflect a persona that Miller not only embraces and nurtures but is also a persona of which he promotes to this day.

For myself and for a reader of Wiki, I thought these 2 sentences are an interesting testimony of the character of Miller even in high school and of his nascent provocative disposition - a telling and chilling indication of who he would become. I am baffled that you would try to suppress this reportage.

In conclusion, I disagree with your representation of the 2 sentences as being of undue weight, I disagree with your representation that the 2 sentences came from an non Reliable Source, and I disagree with your insinuation that Miller's activism as indicated by those 2 sentences is even remotely a denunciation of that high school-er. Indeed, as per Wiki objectives, those 2 sentences provide true and proper data on which to make a fair and balanced judgment of where Mr. Miller is coming from. As such, I request that you undo your revision of my revision and reinstate those 2 sentences.

Thank you, Yuri716 (talk) 01:17, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Let's discuss this on the talk page so other editors can weigh in. NPalgan2 (talk) 01:37, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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I have deleted the article for now, as you just imported part of a foreign-language article without translating it; it would perhaps be better to create a draft-page, and work on it before moving it into wiki-articlespace. Ping me please if you need the content of the deleted article. Regards. Lectonar (talk) 11:42, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Lectonar, Sorry, I was playing with the translation tool and didn't realize I'd hit 'publish' by mistake. Sorry to have wasted your time. NPalgan2 (talk) 11:55, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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adding references doesn't make it notable for that article. What does Marshall's referring to himself have to do with the surrounding text? You can add that sentence to the article Bob Marshall but it doesn't belong in this article. Adding this does nothing but try to make Wikipedia sound not neutral and left-leaning. In fact, this should be included in the article about Marshall. Nikolaiho☎️📖 01:52, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Perhaps you didn’t read the link, it mentioned the subject of the article. I’ve clarified that. Doug Weller talk 20:32, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

sorry, that was a fat finger error. See my reply. NPalgan2 (talk) 20:37, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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It's pretty disruptive to spam all the noticeboards you can find with exactly the same issue (a particular paragraph in Stephen Miller (political advisor)), NPalgan2. It does not help to determine consensus, please see WP:OTHERPARENT. Since you started the discussion on WP:RSN first, I've left that one open, and closed the one on WP:BLPN. There is also a lively discussion on article talk, so I'm not sure why you think you'll get a different result by dragging it round the noticeboards. Please don't take it to any more "parents", and not the connected issue of whether or not to call Miller "far-right" in the lead, either; the current RFC on talk, which you started, is surely enough. If you wish to take either or both these questions to dispute resolution, that's something else, and I don't want to stop you from that, if you think it'll help your cause. (I personally doubt it, as consensus seems to be against you, but it's up to you.) Bishonen | talk 22:08, 28 February 2018 (UTC).[reply]

Bishonen, just to make it formal, I have issued a 3RR warning below. It's hard to believe, but he's actually edit warred to insert this. So forum shopping is just part of it. I figured that "et vink med en vognstang" (Danish for "a hint with a wagon rod", which is normally fatal) was necessary. -- BullRangifer (talk) PingMe 05:38, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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