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two {{cite journal}} in a single <ref>

FYI you deleted parameters from the wrong cite. I fixed it. jnestorius^(talk) 16:08, 22 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies. I did not see that there were two templates in the same ref. I should have been more careful, especially in your User space. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:12, 22 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

August 2018 GOCE blitz bling

		The Modest Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copy edits totaling over 2,000 words (including rollover words) during the GOCE August 2018 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 22:02, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Reidgreg for giving out the awards. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:32, 28 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciated

...but what's with all the {nbsp}s? [1] E Eng 20:29, 28 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I honestly can't remember now; too many Linter-related edits since then. I think I was trying to visually separate the single quote marks from the double quote marks. I suppose I could have used a plain space, but I had some sort of reason for the nbsps. I think you can remove them if they are not necessary. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:48, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Stumped by italics in certification table

I wonder if can share more of your tech skill which I obviously lack. In the article It's Time (Michael Bublé album) there's a dead link in the charts table but when I delete the URL or replace it, the rest of the table turns to italics. In fact, if I click Edit Source next to Charts and Certifications and make no changes at all, and simply click Show Preview, then the whole table is in all italics—except for the first line (Australia or whatever happens to be in that location). I cut and pasted the table and played with it in my sandbox. I even pasted it to a word processing program to see if there were any invisible characters or strange characters. But I remain stumped. This is on the latest version of Firefox. But it also happens in Safari and iCab. Perhaps I need to learn more about the certification table syntax. Thanks for whatever help you can offer.
Vmavanti (talk) 16:53, 6 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for this very interesting problem. I made a number of changes to Template:Cite certification that fixed some rendering problems. I still see the second and subsequent lines of the certifications table in italics in Preview, even though when the table is saved, it looks fine. That's a bit of a mystery to me. There may still be some syntax errors in that cite template related to formatting. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:24, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

cs1|2 maintenance categories

and in particular, this:

For almost all editors, there is no need to make any changes to articles based on this category. It is being used primarily to debug the CS1 citation template code.

Really? If you got that from something that I wrote (your edit summary wasn't explicit about where I had written that) then perhaps I should stop writing because clearly (to me anyway) I have lost the ability to communicate. While it is true that maintenance categories can be implemented for debugging purposes, the majority exist because something should be fixed in the templates that cause article inclusion in the category.

Category:CS1 maint: Multiple names: authors list is a good example of that: we detect parameter content that looks like it might be a list of author names in a parameter intended for a single author's name or portion of a name and assign that template to the maintenance category so that someone can fix it.

I'm pretty sure that articles in maintenance categories should be fixed.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 19:13, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You wrote The maintenance aspect of this category is to identify singular-form author-name parameters that appear to hold multiple names so that the offending template can be corrected. I was trying to summarize that bit. The category page doesn't really provide clear guidance on what to do with pages in the category, IMO. I'm happy to change, or have you change, what I wrote. I am wrong frequently; I add and edit missing and unclear instructions as a way to provide at least a little help for editors. I often come across maintenance/tracking categories with no instructions at all, which I find unhelpful. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:10, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You see? Apparently I can no longer write in a way that communicates what I mean. The bit about correction of the offending template was intended to be about cs1|2 templates in articles; something that any editor can / should fix. It was not about the module code so I'm going to delete your summary from the category.

I agree that categories should be documented.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 11:12, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Writing coherent English-language prose is hard. You write very good code, so you've got that to fall back on. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:14, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your edits to Template:Singles

Have caused a bunch of errors to display, whether reading a normal article and even more when previewing; see Always In Between, for example. Ss112 08:00, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Working on fixing it right now. I tested it in the sandbox, but this case is different somehow. – Jonesey95 (talk) 08:06, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed, I'm pretty sure. Thanks for letting me know in a kind way. – Jonesey95 (talk) 08:09, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cristatusaurus

I'm nominating Cristatusaurus for a GA review, and since you were of much help last time with Oxalaia and Atlanticopristis, I was hoping you'd be kind enough as to check the references on this article, and fix anything that might need fixing.

Much appreciated. ▼PσlєοGєєк ƧɊƲΔƦΣƉ▼ 06:10, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I left you a couple of tasks. Do a find in the article (or look at my edit diff) for two instances of "page" to see where page ranges are needed. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:23, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Just took care of those page number issues. ▼PσlєοGєєк ƧɊƲΔƦΣƉ▼ 15:28, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WPCleaner 2.0

Hello Jonesey95.

I would like to inform you that a new version of WPCleaner is available replacing the old version (v1.43) dating back to almost a year. Unfortunately, going from version 1.43 to 2.0 automatically isn't possible and will require a new installation. It's necessary to install version 2.0 to take advantage of updates and bug fixes. Version 1.43 will have to be uninstalled manually, as there are no more updates for it.

The installation procedure is described at Wikipedia:WPCleaner/Installation.

Note: for usage in Bot mode, I strongly advise to check the modifications to be sure that the tasks run correctly

--NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 14:47, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, NicoV. Coincidentally enough, I was just trying install it on Mac OS about fifteen minutes ago, and I failed. I will try to install the new JDK to see if that resolves the problem. I have never really understood how to use WPCleaner (specifically how to work through a list of pages or how to save a page), but it looks like it might be a useful tool. I only use it now to update the list of ISBN errors (under Bot Tools). – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:50, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I hope it will solve the problem. Johnny Au managed to run it on Mac OS, but he finds that the new version is slower than the older one...

For using WPCleaner, it's rather easy to use normally. For saving a page, it's just the

button. To load a list of pages, there are several ways, depending on where the list is coming from: for example, if you want to work on some linter errors, there's a Linter button in the main window that will give you a list of pages with errors for a given linter category. --NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 14:59, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WPCleaner is very easy to use regardless. It could be fast or slow, depending on the setup and the Internet connection. I mostly use WPCleaner to fix links. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 00:54, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Columbia Bridge (Connecticut River) coords

I'm confused. I'm not seeing where the coords are being specified. What am I missing, please? - Denimadept (talk) 13:36, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

They are in Wikidata, which is confusing and opaque. {{Infobox bridge}} is looking up coordinates in Wikidata and pulling them into the article automatically, so the coords in the NHRP template were redundant. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:04, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

September 2018 drive bling

		The Modest Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copy edits totaling over 4,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE September 2018 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Miniapolis 20:16, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Linter, AutoEd and XHTML breaks

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I don't see adding XHTML breaks listed as a problem on the linter page and that's all you did here. They're deprecated in HTML 5 and so I don't know why we should be adding them. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:01, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The syntax highlighter, which helps me find Linter errors (along with the LintHint tool), does not work unless the br tags are closed. The Linter error I fixed in that page was removal of an {{s-start}} template, which you can see near the end of the diff. The AutoEd script that I use closes the br tags and fixes some other script-fixable Linter errors, along with creating a well-written edit summary, so I often use it before or after fixing the initial Linter error that brought me to the page (in this case, a table tag that needed to be deleted).

Thanks for the note! If I were doing actual cosmetic edits, I would definitely want to be told, so that I could stop doing so. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:18, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Walter Görlitz: These are not deprecated in HTML 5. Void elements, of which are there some valid cases (<br> is one), may be self-closed (i.e., have a slash at the end) under HTML 5. --Izno (talk) 13:51, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Izno: You're confusing browser support with the standard. https://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_br.asp states that only XHTML supports the break with close tag. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:33, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Walter Görlitz: No, I am not. 1) Wikipedia outputs HTML 5 as evidenced by <!DOCTYPE html> in the page source. 2) HTML 5 is not XHTML. 3) The HTML 5 standard in regard to this tag is here; here is the specification of whether this element may have a closing slash. In particular, see see 8.1.2.1. --Izno (talk) 17:43, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Izno:. Did you check my link? It states only XHTML supports <br />. I'm ignoring you from now on because you're over-thinking this. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:50, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Walter Görlitz: Your URL is wrong, as you would clearly see if you read the actual standard. :) --Izno (talk) 17:51, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

First, it's not my URL, it's the summary at w3schools.com. You're simply wrong and don't like being told you're wrong. The standard is clear, it's not supported. If it were, then the examples in the standard would use the XHTML-style break, but they don't. You're simply over-complicating things. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:55, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Walter Görlitz: Did you read the standard? Yes, or no? --Izno (talk) 17:57, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. And I understood it. And you're interpreting things. XHTML breaks are no longer needed. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:59, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Walter Görlitz: Then tell me what Then, if the element is one of the void elements, or if the element is a foreign element, then there may be a single U+002F SOLIDUS character (/). This character has no effect on void elements, but on foreign elements it marks the start tag as self-closing. means to you. And, just so you know, you've moved the goalposts; "doesn't support it" and "doesn't need it" are not the same statement. --Izno (talk) 18:02, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No. You tell me why the schools page say there's no change between HTML 4 & 5 and the break you're fighting for is only required in XHMTL. Sorry for moving the goal posts. It's both. Browsers do things that the standard doesn't call for. Void elements may use them but they're clearly not needed, so including them is a remnant of XHTML, not a requirement of HTML 5. Read https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1946426/html-5-is-it-br-br-or-br And if you want to continue this conversation, we should do it somewhere other than here. I have no plans to clog Jonesey95's talk page up further. Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:22, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please take this discussion to VPT or a another more appropriate venue. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:31, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Barnstar script works again

Just wanted to thank you (and Torchiest) for your help. I saved your instructions and downloaded a clean version of his script, to which I'd done God knows what; a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Once I was able to save the .txt file as a .vbs and straightened out the paths—amazing what you forget in three years—it worked, and I'm not gonna breathe on the damn thing :-). Pinging Reidgreg, who did the table manually this time. All the best, Miniapolis 15:39, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to hear it. That script is a little touchy. Reidgreg made some improvements to the script, which I don't have access to from where I am (it's on a backup drive in deep storage for a while), which made the script a little less fragile. It still requires a bit of a programmer/debugger mindset, which is something that not everyone has (or should want to have – just ask my friends). – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:08, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Awesomesauce! Thanks for keeping me in the loop! – Reidgreg (talk) 17:00, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Glad you saw this, Reidgreg. I try not to make the same mistake twice, though, and am more aware of what I don't know about Visual Basic. I'm just glad the thing runs again, and should be set for (gulp) November :-). All the best, Miniapolis 22:54, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reporting portal bugs

Hey,

I noticed your attempt to fix Portal:Renaissance. Thank you.

We have a couple programmers in the Portals WikiProject who are actively fixing bugs in the lua modules that power the new portals.

To help them prevent glitches from appearing in portals, please report any portal bugs you come across at WT:WPPORTD.

I've already reported the glitches you discovered in Portal:Renaissance. Thank you again.

By the way, aside from the occasional bug, what do you think of the new portal design? (slideshows, etc.) — The Transhumanist 09:49, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the pointer to a bug reporting venue. I'll use it if I come across something I can't fix.

I don't really look at Portal pages as a reader, so I can't say I've noticed a change. I mostly fix pages that have errors that appear on various lists. I can tell you that it can be frustrating to try to fix portal pages, since errors that show on a list sometimes disappear when the page is reloaded due to the errors being in a transcluded random page or portion of a page. It makes it hard to know whether there really is an error in the Portal page. I have found ways to fix some of the pages, as you can see in my recent edits in Portal space. – Jonesey95 (talk) 11:22, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bell Tower (University of Portland)

Hello! I'm curious, do you ever conduct Good article nomination reviews? I'm looking for an editor to review Bell Tower (University of Portland). I'm not really sure why the first Good article reviewer closed the nomination before giving me time to address concerns, but regardless, all concerns have been addressed and this should be quite easy to review. If you're not interested, no problem whatsoever. Happy editing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:40, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm happy to take a look at the content and MOS-related formatting of the article, but GA and similar reviewing is just not my bag. It also feels just slightly unseemly (to me; IMHO only) to do a GA review for a wiki-friend; I would rather see the process managed by neutral third parties. Maybe I'm too much of a purist. OTOH, I'm happy to put in policy-based Support votes on behalf of friends' causes, but only when I think policy supports their positions. GANs are too squishy for me, though. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:15, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No problem whatsoever. I've never completed a GA review in my 10+ years as a contributor, so I totally understand. Thanks for your edits to the article! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:21, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

San Javier, Murcia

Excellent! Thank you very much for fixing those Infobox map template error messages. It would have taken me quite a bit of digging around to find out how to deal with those... FiveFaintFootprints (talk) 17:41, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

John Morris and Sons Salford

Hi, I'm curious to know why you chose to make the formulaic wikipedianese alterations to my text. Yes, I'm upset. I just want to know why you degraded it? Eddaido (talk) 10:49, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please give specific examples of text changes that I made that you think degraded the text.

I will give you two specific examples of improvements. I changed "John Morris & Sons Limited" to "John Morris and Sons Limited" in order to be consistent with the article's title. Here's another example: I changed "John Morris and Sons came a little late to the manufacturer of motor vehicles" to "John Morris and Sons came a little late to the manufacture of motor vehicles" (removing the final "r" from "manufacturer") because the final r was a typo and incorrect.

Now it's your turn. List changes that I made that you view as incorrect, and I will either let you know why I made them or acknowledge that they were incorrect. – Jonesey95 (talk) 10:53, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jonesey the correct name of the company includes the ampersand. Unfortunately computers do not like it. Including both formats makes it easily findable. I do not mind about the final r, in fact I will say thanks. I resent the apparent changes for the sake of change inserting your boring Wikipedianese language. I also mind about Ferries like in Morris. When there is a result at Ferries I will respond to that. In the meantime I have more pressing commitments but, hold your breath. Eddaido (talk) 11:12, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'll do better, I'll come back and fix what I consider to be your poor quality replacements. Eddaido (talk) 11:12, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you have declined to provide specific examples of copy edits that "degraded" the article. You are still welcome to do so.

If the correct name of the company, per sources, uses the ampersand, the name should be changed throughout the article to use the ampersand. Using both versions is inconsistent with WP:NPOVNAME, part of a Wikipedia policy. The article should also be moved a new name to reflect the name in the sources. Feel free to improve upon the copy edits that I made to the article; none of us owns any of the articles on Wikipedia. – Jonesey95 (talk) 11:31, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template problem

Hi! It appears that the {{Spoken Wikipedia}} template is broken. I've looked around a bit, and the only possible reason I can think of why it would be broken like that, would be this edit you made to {{Spoken Wikipedia boilerplate}}. Do you think there's a chance that the edit may have caused the problem? Thanks, --SkyGazer 512 ^{Oh no, what did I do this time?} 03:03, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed by editing {{spoken Wikipedia}}. --Izno (talk) 03:45, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to you both. My apologies. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:04, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There are apparently 5 templates for it depending on how many parts the spoken file has been split into. Someone should merge those.... --Izno (talk) 04:31, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Autoed

Hey, in edits like these, what about replacing <center> with <div style = "text-align: center"> and so fix up the deprecated HTML tag errors too? Galobtter (pingó mió) 12:39, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The div tag often creates a new line, and one is not always wanted, so I don't know of a scriptable way to replace center tags with div tags. If you know of one, let me know. I figure that fixing the missing end tags is the context-sensitive part, and a bot can come through later to replace the center tags if the WMF, in their wisdom, decides to remove support for them. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:48, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

<center> is not always used as a block element. Additionally, especially inside tables or even divs, the appropriate fix is sometimes to add the style attribute to the other element instead. --Izno (talk) 14:12, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'll see if there's any particular cases in which replacements can easily be made. Galobtter (pingó mió) 14:34, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

October 2018 GOCE blitz bling

		The Minor Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copy edits totaling between 1 and 1,999 words (including rollover words) during the GOCE October 2018 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 19:54, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Irritator source check

reference info for Irritator

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cs1 templates

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webarchive templates

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use xxx dates

mdy

cs1|2 mdy dates

29

cs1|2 last/first

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List of cs1 templates

cite book (3)
Cite book (6)
cite journal (17)
Cite journal (49)
Cite news (4)
Cite thesis (1)
cite web (3)

explanations

Hi, I'd appreciate it if you could work your citation magic on this article, the third spinosaurid I've GA nominated thus far. This one will be going to FA like Oxalaia, so proper reference format and consistency is very much needed. Thanks in advance! ▼PσlєοGєєк ƧɊƲΔƦΣƉ▼ 02:44, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

PaleoGeekSquared: Sure, no problem. You need to choose a consistent date format for the article, either like "3 May 2005" or "May 5, 2005". Which one do you prefer? There is currently a mix of three date formats in the citations. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:49, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(And thanks for the ref info, TtM.) – Jonesey95 (talk) 10:36, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have converted all citations to the dominant YYYY-MM-DD format. I am done editing the citations, unless you see anything that I missed. I left one reference without citation templates, since it is rather complex. If the FA evaluators don't like it, let me know and I will make its format as consistent as possible with the other references. – Jonesey95 (talk) 10:52, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again! Looks a lot more orderly now. There was one remaining duplicate ref, but I got rid of it myself since that's quite simple. ▼PσlєοGєєк ƧɊƲΔƦΣƉ▼ 01:08, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template help

Hi Jonesey. I'm needing help at Template:Tufts University... it's not showing the [show] to expand the template in the articles it is used in. I'm not sure what I have done to it! No hurry, I see your on vacation until the third. Just when you have a chance to get to it... Corky 18:25, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well, never mind. It's occurring on all pages for me. Maybe a Wikipedia problem? Corky 18:34, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Act like you never saw this Jonesey... it’s my computer that’s the problem! The templates are showing normal on my tablet and phone. Corky 18:45, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect English correction.

The addition of "and" is incorrect. In a comma separated list, only the last item of the list is preceded by "and". Journal pour tous, and The Event, and held the fashion is wrong. Please remove the "and" or restructure/split into two sentences. — Ineuw talk 02:53, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that my edit was correct. "The Event" is the last item in the list. The "and" that follows adds a second clause, starting with a verb, that continues the sentence: "She also published ... and held ...". – Jonesey95 (talk) 08:55, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jonesey95's edit is definitely correct. Those are two completely different kinds of "and". The list terminates with the The Event, and is properly preceded by a list-ending "and". The "held the fashion ..." material is an independent clause joined to the rest of the sentence with a conjunctive "and". It could be rewritten to be two sentences, though. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 13:50, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox school edits

Hi. I just said goodbye to the {{Infobox UK school}} merge taskforce, because you edited the templates without engagement. If your non-talk behaviour continues, I might consider reporting you for bad admin rights abuse. -DePiep (talk) 21:10, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ehm, you know what "ping me" is, right? - And how to? DePiep (talk) 21:27, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DePiep, I do know how to ping you, as I have done here. I have responded on the talk page for Infobox school, where I have been adding notes to the discussion over the last 24 hours.

For you to say that I have not been engaging in discussion on that page is false. Time stamps are there for anyone to read. For you to imply that I have admin rights is also false. Beware of boomerangs. See my more detailed explanation, along with a request for specific, truthful information about how my template edits have harmed articles or detracted from the merge process, at Template talk:Infobox school. Thank you for engaging, and I look forward to productive discussions that result in a successful infobox merge. Good progress has already been made.

I will be taking a wikibreak for for the next 10 hours or so, so take your time in thinking through a response. Now that the template is relatively stable and I have fixed the major flaws that were introduced last week, I have no plans to edit the Infobox UK school template further. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:40, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Re I have not been engaging in discussion on that page ... false ...: see [2]. Your name is not in any discussion there Oct 26 -- Nov 4. -DePiep (talk) 21:46, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Admin rights or TE rights are the same in this. I am not about to this difference. BTW, why call in "boomerang"? I am pointing out your behaviour, which is (or should be) unrelated to me. Weird note. Now, will you join the discussion & make a good merged template? -DePiep (talk) 21:51, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I did not participate from Oct 26 to Nov 4 because I was on a wikibreak. I have participated fully in the discussion since my return, explaining each of my edits to the template. Let's keep talking at the template's talk page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:20, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I warned you that the parameter whitelist you added (without discuyssion) is wrong and incorrect. Still you are editing. You know by now that {{Infobox UK school}} is in a merge process. This means that parameters to be used are reconsidered. You are supposed to cooperate with this process, not work against it. For example, this edit removes infor that will be OK after the merge. Stop it. -DePiep (talk) 18:59, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
First, thank you for continuing to discuss and engage. Second, thank you for providing a specific link rather than a general criticism. But I can't tell if you are serious with this latest message. (If you are posting this on my talk page as a joke and I missed the humor, I apologize; humor is difficult to detect in written language.) In the edit you linked, I removed | funder = CocaineCouncil . |funder= is not valid in {{Infobox UK school}} or {{Infobox school}}, and "CocaineCouncil" is vandalism (the article has an edit history full of vandalism and reverts, but a few were missed). I am aware that |founder= is valid, but there is no evidence that |founder= was intended. I am sure that you can find a legitimate alternative to at least one of the hundreds of edits I have made to remove unsupported parameters from Infobox UK school templates, but the one you linked is error-free. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:26, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thx for not editing Category:Pages using infobox UK school with unknown parameters below yesterday's 2960 or so. See you at the Talk. -DePiep (talk) 23:47, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi- thanks for your edit on the private school 892/6004 Nottingham High School it is a good example to work with. Can you explain why an independant school has a prominent field for local authority that links to an article on the political make up of Notttingham City Council? I can't but the reference article- does link to a page listing schools in Nottingham. If you look at the page Arnold Academy by accident, (real name of UK school 891/4091 Arnold Hill Academy) you are linked to a school in the states- which has a field schools district which in UK speak would be local authority- I think we have found a false friend here! If you go back to Newstead Wood School which is in the London Borough of Bromley, that information is omitted from the infobox but referred to in the article. It is needed.
As far as I know, I didn't make any changes to the |local_authority= field at Nottingham High School. You'll have to ask the editor who populated it why it has the value that it does. As for the other articles you discuss, I do not understand what you are saying about the Arnold school(s), and if there is information missing in an infobox, go ahead and add it. All I am doing, generally, is fixing parameter names. Every once in a while, I find information that an editor obviously intended to display but which was entered incorrectly; if it looks valid, I put it into the correct parameter. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:45, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
A comment was made earlier about trying to simplify schools infoboxes- back at Nottingham High School, all that crud about the names of the boarding houses, and the kiddy magazines could safely go, as could the nicknames. You are typing to fast for me to comment further.... ClemRutter (talk) 14:07, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In general, I am not removing content from infoboxes, unless it happens to be in parameters that I am removing. You are welcome to look through all 5,000+ UK school articles and remove content that does not seem encyclopedic to you. Have fun! – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:45, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

County box

Fixed. Momentary brainfart. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 13:47, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It happens to all of us at one time or another. Thanks for taking it in good humor. My revert was nothing personal, of course; there were 3,000+ broken articles, and I didn't want our readers to see how the sausage is made! Mmmm, sausage. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:47, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

School infobox

Hey, I fixed about a thousand school articles with undefined params in the last couple of weeks, and was surprised to notice that you did the last couple of hundred quite rapidly (there are plenty of other things for me to work on). I ran across the ones you changed to School District and cleaned up those too (only a dozen or so) so that maint category is empty too now. One minor template thing - Infobox school displays City, County, State, while School District displays City, State, County. I think the former makes more sense. If you agree, can you change the display order in School District? Thanks. MB 03:59, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I've been working on Infobox school parameters in preparation for merging {{Infobox UK school}} to {{Infobox school}}. Thanks for all of your work! – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:47, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Belgian flag

Hi Jonesey95, could I urgently ask you to revert your change of the Belgian flag template? I am a Belgian myself, and this state flag might be the offical one, but it not used. We use the civil flag. You can always check the other Wikipedias (e.g. Dutch, French and German ones, which also are Belgium's three national languages). I would be grateful if you could therefore revert your change. Kind regards, Takk (talk) 20:09, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Done. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:13, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WHYYYY

You ever look at old code and just wonder WHY ON EARTH?!?! {{Chembox Thermochemistry}}. Individual templates for ever row of the table... --Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 22:15, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that seems like overkill. I imagine that someone thought, once upon a time, "I might want to show the standard enthalpy change of combustion in a different Chembox subtemplate, so let's make a separate template just for DeltaHc." But it doesn't look like the DeltaHc template was ever needed anywhere else. Wheee!

Have you looked at User:CheMoBot yet? It does stuff that Chembox editors will need to be aware of at some point. You are a brave soul. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:55, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Haven't looked at the bot yet. Will do that in a bit. Saw you attempted to add a test case. First glance... What do you think of the template so far? --Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 19:23, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

At first glance, the "identifiers" test case looks pretty much the same as the existing template, which is a good thing. If you can clean up my attempt at a test case, that would be great. I don't know if it's better than just using columns, since you still have to supply both templates in full. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:33, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly at this point, I think we have to use 2 columns since the template has to be supplied in full. Once we are testing against the sandbox that will be different. For now, try this snippet of code below. Might help. --Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 21:12, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

{{Col-begin|width=25%}}
{{Col-2}}
{{center|'''{{tl|BBBBB}}'''}}

{{Col-2}}
{{center|'''{{tl|AAAAAA}}'''}}

{{Col-end}}

Infobox settlement

Re [3] - Thank you! 77.11.109.70 (talk) 20:59, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. I know that it can be frustrating to see a change that would improve en.WP and not be able to make that change because of editing resctrictions, so I try to alleviate that frustration for others when I am able (and know what I'm doing). – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:22, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And then this long discussion, for replacing two redirects :-) One more redirect to fix, because User:Highpeaks35 decided to re-introduce one in Bengal [4] and User:Courcelles protected the page while it still had the redirect, each ignoring the "AVOID REDIRECT" in the edit history. 77.13.109.179 (talk) 19:04, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

More people re-introducing redirects

And one user adding filters to prevent the clean-up

User:Amorymeltzer [5]

89.14.125.70 (talk) 01:55, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No, the filter was set up to stop an unauthorized bot running at high speed. SQL ^{Query me!} 02:00, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User:SQL, that is a lie. There was no bot. 89.14.125.70 (talk) 02:03, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So, you normally edit at 5+ edits per min for hours on end, stopping and hopping IP's immediately as soon as you get a talkpage message, or run into a block? Also, it's clear that the edit filter caused an error in your bot, I can see it retrying edits. We aren't stupid. SQL ^{Query me!} 02:05, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This edit causes the artist to appear on a separate line

Can you please undo this edit you made to Template:Infobox album? It now makes artist appear on the next line (see, for example, Phoenix (Rita Ora album)) and I'm pretty sure something that effects such a big change should be discussed, as all the editors who are involved in using the infobox and related WikiProjects may not agree. Unless it was not intentional. Thanks. Ss112 12:43, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yikes! Sorry about that, and thanks so much for bringing it to my attention. I thought I had tested it well enough, but I missed that visual change. And a second thanks for a link to an article with the problem; it is often hard for template editors to find instances of a specific problem, since pages use so many different combinations of template parameters.

I believe that I have fixed the display problem while keeping the initial change that I made. I did so by changing the "div" element to be an "inline" element so that it won't create an undesirable line break. I checked it on a dozen random articles. Please let me know if you see any other problems, and thanks again. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:52, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved

Infobox officeholder

Hey, Jonesey. I noticed that your latest edit to Template:Infobox officeholder this morning caused a line break after the birth_name entry. I quickly scanned the source to see if I could figure out what's causing this, but I'm far from an expert and am not totally sure what the problem is. Your help would be appreciated! Thanks! Rockhead126 (talk) 17:45, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like it might be the same problem described in the section above. I didn't see that initially. Rockhead126 (talk) 17:48, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And I reverted the same issue with {{infobox university}}. --Muhandes (talk) 17:57, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have fixed {{Infobox officeholder}}. If you see any problems with a specific page, please link to it. Thanks for reporting this problem! – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:13, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]