Archive 1

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-- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 01:18, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The September 2009 project coordinator election has begun. We will be selecting seven coordinators from a pool of candidates to serve for the next six months; members can still nominate themselves if interested. Please vote here by September 28! This message has been sent as you are registered as an active member of the project. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 01:57, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

for fixing this error.  pablo_hablo. 13:15, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that, I just used twinkle to save myself the time. ceranthor 01:43, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Given your view, I'm having a hard time determining what part of Wikipedia:Requests for comment/A Nobody#Outside view by Kww you disagree with. In general, it's better to support an existing view than to split off a new view that is nearly the same.—Kww(talk) 17:53, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"I hate to admit it, but this drama is entertaining. Joe Chill (talk) 01:07, 21 September 2009 (UTC)" Smile when you say that, son :) I did. ++Lar: t/c 01:12, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'd have sent an email but you say you don't check. If people (even other admins) truly are harassing (badgering you on wiki... I can't really help with real life harassment) you, ask for admin assistance. My talk page is always open. I may blow you off, but I have 300+ talk page watchers. If what you bring to me is legit, it will be dealt with. If it's not legit it will be too. I hope that is of some help to you. ++Lar: t/c 02:15, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't side with them. The problem is that they are a fact of life. I can't block them, because I'm not an admin. I can't go on the attack, because there are too many of them, and the situation isn't black-and-white. This isn't an easy problem where I can offer you a piece of advice that will fix everything, or dole out some punishment that will fix everything.

I gave you a friendly offer, and I meant it: when you are in these discussions and feel provoked, drop me a message. I'll look over your situation, and give you the best advice I can for dealing with that situation. That was meant in all friendliness, and the offer is still open.—Kww(talk) 03:39, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re. your PROD of Skyscraper Project, I changed it to an AfD as it's a recreation of an article that was previously deleted following my own PROD of it. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  18:07, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry if you took my asking for your motivation (which you still have not disclosed) as a personal attack. It was not intended as such.

I put "wiki-lawyering" in my edit summary to summarize my comment, as I was quoting our exact policy. I have no idea why you think I was accusing you of wiki-lawyering, but apologize for any confusion that might be my fault.

Please be careful about throwing around accusations of my assuming bad faith, though. We both need to heed WP:AOBF. --Karnesky (talk) 00:16, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

		The Articles for Deletion Barnstar
		In recognition of your dedicated work at WP:AFD and to honor your tireless defense of high standards on Wikipedia. With my respect, RayTalk 20:10, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Evosoho&oldid=316376725

Let me know if I missed anything. Ikip (talk) 22:05, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moved from user talk:ikip

In the species article, he removed my rescue template with an edit summary that said that it was canvassing. That's the only other thing that I see that you have missed. Joe Chill (talk) 22:11, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that. I will add it, if he hasn't deleted my section yet. thanks. 22:18, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

You might want to consider taking the problems involving this editor to AN/I. Considering our general positions on deletion, more appropriately you than me. DGG ( talk ) 23:07, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, he seems to be on some kind of mission, which is a bit worrying.  pablo_hablo. 23:10, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It has been brought to ANI. Joe Chill (talk) 23:39, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote the evidence section as a warning, and as a timeline for other editors to use if the editor continues to do what he is doing.

He has archived his talk page [right before I wrote the timeline]. I think he may have stepped away from all of this. If there is anything more I can do to help, please let me know. Ikip (talk) 23:56, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

With issues including what happened before this incident, I doubt that he is done. Joe Chill (talk) 23:59, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added on to what you said. Joe Chill (talk) 00:07, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

From User talk:ikip:

Sorry for using what you wrote in a way that wasn't intended. Joe Chill (talk) 01:01, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

no need to apologize, maybe this is the best approach. No hard feelings. :) Keep on letting the ARS know about articles you are concerned about. Ikip (talk) 01:23, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Wikipedia_talk:Article_Rescue_Squadron#WOW There is no policy that forbids this, in fact I have thoroughly documented that other wikiprojects do this constantly, even with Arbcom and admin elections.

That said, it is better to simply ignore questions and challenges about notifying others, as "edits begat edits" and you won't change anyone's mind.

In a recent AFD, I was quite open about notifying all of the editors in a previous AFD. That way no one could accuse me of hiding something or try to get me in a "gotcha".

Next time you do this, I suggest publicly announcing to everyone in the AFD that you have notified the ARS, like editors now do with deletion discussions:

*<small class="delsort-notice">'''Note''': This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Websites|list of Websites-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 19:59, 20 September 2009 (UTC)<!--Template:Delsort--></small>[1]

Ikip (talk) 22:16, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proper ARS tagging of an article, requesting assistance in improving an article, is never to be perceived as canvassing. Posting a reminder at the ARS talk page is then never required, as active members will have already noted the ARS tag, and inactive members won't notice. So adding a note there is completely unneccessary. MichaelQSchmidt (talk) 00:04, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#User:Tothwolf. It may interest you. After I posted the notice there, I saw that you had independently posted to ANI. Miami33139 (talk) 19:18, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]