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:{{re|Whoisjohngalt}} I made this page as a redirect and have not edited it since 2019 began. Please note that it is impossible for no tropical cyclones to develop in a given year within the different regions of the world. We are in the middle of the southern hemisphere seasons, which have yet to reach peak activity. Conditions in the Southwest Indian Ocean are similar to last year, so, therefore, it should be expected that an above-average season will occur again. We currently have one active cyclone, Calvinia, which should persist until 00:00 UTC, crossing over into 2020. Due to the behavior of weather and relationships between the different oceans, it is impossible to get no cyclonic activity unless global temperatures drastically decrease and all the oceans freeze over. [[User:Hurricane Noah|<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200"><b>Noah</b></span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Hurricane Noah|<span style="color:#ff0000"><b>Talk</b></span>]]</sup> 21:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
:{{re|Whoisjohngalt}} I made this page as a redirect and have not edited it since 2019 began. Please note that it is impossible for no tropical cyclones to develop in a given year within the different regions of the world. We are in the middle of the southern hemisphere seasons, which have yet to reach peak activity. Conditions in the Southwest Indian Ocean are similar to last year, so, therefore, it should be expected that an above-average season will occur again. We currently have one active cyclone, Calvinia, which should persist until 00:00 UTC, crossing over into 2020. Due to the behavior of weather and relationships between the different oceans, it is impossible to get no cyclonic activity unless global temperatures drastically decrease and all the oceans freeze over. [[User:Hurricane Noah|<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200"><b>Noah</b></span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Hurricane Noah|<span style="color:#ff0000"><b>Talk</b></span>]]</sup> 21:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

::{{re|Hurricane Noah}} Thank you and have a wonderful 2020.[[User:Whoisjohngalt|Whoisjohngalt]] ([[User talk:Whoisjohngalt|talk]]) 21:55, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

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Question about the Tropical cyclone status icons

Hello,
It has come to my attention that you have made these icons to visually indicate the status of active tropical cyclones. As you know, they include variants for the Saffir–Simpson scale, the JMA scale, the IMD scale, the Météo-France scale, and the Australian scale, and their geometry indicates their direction of rotation and thus the hemisphere they exist in. However, the Saffir–Simpson scale is the typical scale used to classify South Atlantic tropical cyclones, which exist in the Southern Hemisphere, but the Saffir–Simpson scale icons only include variants rotating anti-clockwise. So, what should be done for future South Atlantic cyclones?
Grant Exploit (talk) 04:00, 24 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Grant Exploit: The South Atlantic storms will, unfortunately, have to have the incorrect rotation. For starters, nobody would support adding in additional colors just for the South Atlantic. The storms down there are sporadic (we aren't guaranteed to get one for years) and short-lived, so it isn't really worth the effort of going through all the processes. NoahTalk 16:11, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Hurricane Noah: Thanks for the response. I put in the effort to create some icons. Categories 3–5 were excluded as in the exceedingly unlikely instance the South Atlantic spawns a major hurricane, the nearly visually identical Australian scale icons could be used. Grant Exploit (talk) 02:20, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Grant Exploit: You aren't getting what I am saying. You NEED CONSENSUS to add additional storm colors to the storm colors template before any icons can be used. There isn't any reason to make separate colors just for South Atlantic so this simply dies at that point. Also, you don't need to ping me on my own talk page as I get notified every time someone edits it. NoahTalk 03:07, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
...Well, yes, I'm not getting what you're saying, because I had no intention to create a new color scheme for South Atlantic storms. That would be unnecessary, and I don't know where that came from. All I was talking about was the icons in the category I linked to. Of course Template:Infobox tropical cyclone current will have to be modified slightly to include a "hemisphere" parameter. Of course, this is largely cosmetic, but the initial integration of the icons into the template (or indeed its whole existence) was, too. Also, I pinged you as you were/are on your hiatus, as after returning from a hiatus many people focus less on what has changed on the websites they are part of, and I thought that would reduce the chance of being ignored. Sorry for that. Grant Exploit (talk) 16:05, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Grant Exploit: You can't do a hemisphere parameter. A specific color corresponds to an intensity image. You would have to define South Atlantic colors to get images working for it. NoahTalk 22:19, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I know that, the way the template is coded currently. But it could almost certainly be modified to accept the parameter and modify the image accordingly. I'll see what I can do in the template Sandbox. Sorry for my proactivity. Grant Exploit (talk) 04:18, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

“Unofficial” systems

So I’ve just seen your edits in the 2019 Nio cyclone season article and reverted them. As of this edit, only the JTWC classifies the system and so what? We still include it in the article since there is a designation and it is the JTWC. There are other articles that include JTWC-only systems anyway. Typhoon2013 (talk) 13:36, 3 December 2019 (UTC) Typhoon2013 13:36, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is, you are displaying scales that arent for this basin and unofficial information. This is simply overriding the RSMC, who still has this as a LPA per the last warning. This is a LPA, not a TS. Whatever the RSMC says is what goes as the section title as well as for the timeline and table. NoahTalk 13:40, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I've seen your message regarding this, too. Yes you are right but that does not mean we do not include it. If for instance 07A was only tracked by the JTWC, we still include it, however, it is classified as an "unofficial" system. This goes the same to Subtropical Storm 07W in the WPac last year, 07W was not tracked by the JMA but it is still included, but known as an unofficial system. This is what me and other users have discussed a few years ago. This is just for you to let know in the future. Typhoon2013 (talk) 02:40, 4 December 2019 (UTC) Typhoon2013 02:41, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thoughts...

Hi again. I have just seen your contributions so far in our wikiproject (WPTC) and damn I am impressed, and I am somewhat shocked on how I haven't come across you until the past few weeks. So I just had a clean-up in my user page and found this, which is a page I have made of all 'guidelines' for our pages along with the links of past discussions a few years ago. This may be a little stupid but judging how we have some old users retiring and an inflow of new users editing throughout the WPTC, these new users do not know the original guideline we have used in the past. with you yourself joining the project a little after me, what are your thoughts? I have decided to come to you because judging on your edits and how new you are compared to the others, we will be the 'senior' users in the next few years, I would say, as well as how I'm looking forward to working with you in the future. Typhoon2013 (talk) 11:54, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Damn, I hope it doesn't fail! Have you reached out to any regular EPAC editors? They might be more inclined to review. I'm thinking like @Yellow Evan:, @CycloneYoris:, @KN2731:, or @DavidTheMeteorologist:. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:04, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar :)

The Working Man's Barnstar
Thank you for improving so many articles with your impressive and extensive knowledge! I wish you the best of luck in whatever you pursue! Super Typhoon EdenMessage me here! 18:49 UTC, December 10, 2019

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Whoisjohngalt (talk) 21:37, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Whoisjohngalt: I made this page as a redirect and have not edited it since 2019 began. Please note that it is impossible for no tropical cyclones to develop in a given year within the different regions of the world. We are in the middle of the southern hemisphere seasons, which have yet to reach peak activity. Conditions in the Southwest Indian Ocean are similar to last year, so, therefore, it should be expected that an above-average season will occur again. We currently have one active cyclone, Calvinia, which should persist until 00:00 UTC, crossing over into 2020. Due to the behavior of weather and relationships between the different oceans, it is impossible to get no cyclonic activity unless global temperatures drastically decrease and all the oceans freeze over. NoahTalk 21:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Hurricane Noah: Thank you and have a wonderful 2020.Whoisjohngalt (talk) 21:55, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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