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::I explicitly wrote: "Let's talk after you've figured out whats going on.". Yet you ping me already. Wouldn't it be better to give me the benefit of the doubt until you've figured out what's going on instead of jumping in with both feet and fanning the flames like you did? It's not that I don't want to talk to you, I am happy to, but let's do that on a level playing field where both parties know what's up. [[User:Poveglia|Poveglia]] ([[User talk:Poveglia|talk]]) 14:52, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
::I explicitly wrote: "Let's talk after you've figured out whats going on.". Yet you ping me already. Wouldn't it be better to give me the benefit of the doubt until you've figured out what's going on instead of jumping in with both feet and fanning the flames like you did? It's not that I don't want to talk to you, I am happy to, but let's do that on a level playing field where both parties know what's up. [[User:Poveglia|Poveglia]] ([[User talk:Poveglia|talk]]) 14:52, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
::Our conversation had a bit of a rough start; if you want to we can forget about that and start over. [[User:Poveglia|Poveglia]] ([[User talk:Poveglia|talk]]) 16:04, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
::Our conversation had a bit of a rough start; if you want to we can forget about that and start over. [[User:Poveglia|Poveglia]] ([[User talk:Poveglia|talk]]) 16:04, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
:::{{re|Poveglia}} The message here is fairly straightforward. You are more than welcome to contribute to our helping forums so long as you contribute in a manner that is helpful. If I see another response like [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Teahouse&diff=915313086&oldid=915312846 this one] {{tq|Please do not post the same question twice, you are wasting our time}} (see also [[User:GreenMeansGo/WP:Death by template#Just_because_you_say_the_word_"please"_doesn't_mean_you're_actually_being_polite|here]], and feel free to read that essay in its entirety) to an editor who has made all of four edits, yet cannot [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Redbaron370 find their sandbox], then the next correspondence you will received from me will be [[Template:ANI-notice|this one]].
:::It's fine to make mistakes and occasionally get things wrong. Our helpers will be happy to give advice if you do, and contributing to our helping forums is a great way for everyone to learn about Wikipedia, whether they're asking questions or answering them. But you cannot be abrasive. A lot of people have put a lot of work into making these welcoming place for others to seek advice, and that much is non-negotiable. [[User:GreenMeansGo|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color:#07CB4B">G</span><span style="color:#449351">M</span><span style="color:#35683d">G</span></span>]][[User talk:GreenMeansGo#top|<sup style="color:#000;font-family:Impact">talk</sup>]] 16:26, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

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My Year of Rest and Relaxation book cover (image file notice)

Hi! I hate doing the usual impersonal template-based notices for image-deletion process stuff, but since you're the uploader and a major contributor to the page in question (plus it's on the Main Page for at least a few more hours), I wanted to give a heads-up: I've marked My Year of Rest and Relaxation book cover 2019.jpg for deletion. However, it was for a totally chill reason! The cover is not actually eligible for copyright under US law—it's just a public domain painting plus some basic text, which doesn't rise to the threshold of originality for copyright—so I replaced it with a high-res version at Commons. Let me know if you have any questions, concerns, etc., but hopefully this comes as either good news or neutral news at worst. —BLZ · talk 19:57, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, if you've hung out at Commons at all you know theres no hard feelings over a deleted file as long as there's good reason. Thanks for replacing it with a higher quality verion. GMGtalk 23:27, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou Kindly

Hey there GreenMeansGo, Im a relatively new editor, and keen to contribute. I recently found your page, and your referencing material has been useful. Best wishesJoshua.paul1300 (talk) 04:48, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Joshua.paul1300. Welcome to Wikipedia. If I can be of any help feel free to stop by. GMGtalk 11:42, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Backlog Banzai

In the month of September, Wikiproject Military history is running a project-wide edit-a-thon, Backlog Banzai. There are heaps of different areas you can work on, for which you claim points, and at the end of the month all sorts of whiz-bang awards will be handed out. Every player wins a prize! There is even a bit of friendly competition built in for those that like that sort of thing. Sign up now at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/September 2019 Backlog Banzai to take part. For the coordinators, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:18, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Toilet training

On 23 August 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Toilet training, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that some German child-rearing theorists of the 1970s tied Nazism and the Holocaust to authoritarian, sadistic personalities produced by punitive toilet training techniques? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Toilet training. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Toilet training), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please help

  • Sir, I had posted a request on Dr. Shamsheer Vayalil's talk page(Talk:Shamsheer Vayalil). I tried very hard to add those informations myself but I couldn't do that. Will you help in adding those informations in the article? I had provided reliable references as links.

Thank you. (223.230.155.100 (talk) 17:18, 24 August 2019 (UTC))[reply]

Hey anon. Sorry for the belated response. I'm afraid I tend to stay away from southeast Asian topics, because to be honest, I lack the cultural competence to contribute effectively in the subject area. You might try User:Vanamonde93 or User:Winged Blades of Godric, who are more immensely more competent than I am likely to ever be. GMGtalk 12:36, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'll take a look...Vanamonde (Talk) 15:27, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 30 August 2019

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open

Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:39, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Nestor

I saw your comment on the Michael Nestor article. This article was started by an editor who was eventually banned and I do not think it passes notability, and assuming the request posted was from the actual person whom the article is about, is there any way to address it? Considering the article was started by a banned editor, I think that there may be cause for a delete but would like to know your thoughts. Ricksanchez (talk) 15:19, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Ricksanchez. Sorry for the belated response. I think I saw this on my phone and couldn't reply at the moment, but forgot to reset the ping so I'd be reminded to reply later.
It looks like the article was started well before the user was blocked, so it wouldn't qualify for deletion under something like WP:G5, which only really covers block evasion by previously blocked/banned users.
The subject may very well be marginally notable enough to justify a courtesy deletion. The sources are pretty meh. This appears at first glance to be a piece in a major paper, but is really more of a routine listing. This appears similarly, and is a full article, but only mentions the subject twice in passing. This, this, and this are also just passing mention. This is more in-depth, but it's not clear that it's really a reliable source rather than just "some website". However, this actually seems fairly good as a source. Unfortunately, this seems to be a fairly common name, which makes looking for additional sources a little difficult.
You can always start a deletion discussion and see what the community thinks. It's not necessary for every AfD nom to be "OMG delete this garbage!" You can just start a deletion discussion and say essentially "I'm not totally sure, so I wanted to get broader community input."
Thank you so much for your suggestions! Ricksanchez (talk) 02:45, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Martine Dubin page

@GreenMeansGo: MartineDubin (talk) 17:11, 6 September 2019 (UTC) Why was this page deleted?[reply]

Hey MartineDubin. Did you have a specific question? GMGtalk 17:15, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes User:GreenMeansGo. What can I do to disqualify my article from speedy deletion? User:MartineDubin —Preceding undated comment added 17:21, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@MartineDubin: Probably very little. The article was deleted for being unambiguously promotional, so much so that it would have needed to be entirely rewritten in order to comply with Wikipedia's policies on neutrality. Please note that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and not a means of self-promotion, and you are strongly discouraged from writing auto-biographies, because it is nigh impossible to write about yourself in a way that will be neutral, and such articles are highly likely to be deleted, as yours was. GMGtalk 17:33, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

PD comments

Hi GMG. SchroCat has a point here about your comments at the PD talk. Calling an editor a "toxic asshole" is inappropriate, especially in arbitration space. I've accordingly removed the paragraph. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 05:02, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you can forgive me some measure of frustration. There is a reason I've made it a point to stay out of this mess almost entirely. I'm hardly a dispassionate observer. I should have continued to take my own advice and stay away. I've hatted my commentary entirely. It's at best a meaningless distraction for others with better things to do with their time. Yes, you are correct SchroCat, and my personal irony is duly noted. Sorry for the bother L235. GMGtalk 11:05, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks GMG. I hope you don't withdraw from the discussion entirely - all views are needed by the Arbs and community to get a better measure of what is the best course. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 11:16, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That's the problem with toxicity isn't it? It sticks in the air and the water and makes everything stink. No, I think the last thing anyone needs in this kaleidoscope of opinions is more opinions, and I ought not be so self-important to think that mine makes any real difference. At any rate, I can't very well expect to give any advice about someone else being toxic if I can't expect myself to take the same. There's no shortage of work to be done, and squawking about isn't going to accomplish any of it. GMGtalk 12:03, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Harshil bro is taking decisions very fast

See my talk page related to deletion of Anoop Mandal now, Anti-Jain Sentiments... He wants to delete but u have reviewed the article I am reporting this user..harshil Please explain him why u removed the deletion banner previously..— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rishabh.rsd (talk • contribs) 17:39, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Rishabh.rsd. When I first nominated for speedy deletion, there was barely enough there to even figure out what the subject of the article was. I removed the nomination when I found the Vice article, because I expected that meant there was probably more sourcing available in non-English languages. Now it looks like the scope of the article has been changed entirely. I honestly don't personally know enough about Jains to know whether the subject is notable or not. However, if it's going to be a scope on par with similar articles like Persecution of Hindus or Persecution of Christians, then it's probably something you may want to consider incubating as a draft for a while before moving it into main space. As it stands, its currently an article about Anoop Mandal, but with the wrong title really. So I'm not even sure which one of these really the AfD should be addressing. GMGtalk 17:56, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism Reverts - September 2019

Saw you reverting some misgender vandalism on List of unlawfully killed transgender people. Thank you very much. Gwen Hope (talk) (contrib) 18:54, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Gwen. No problem at all. I'm afraid it looks like school is back in session across Wikipedia, and I seem to be finding a lot more childish vandalism lately. GMGtalk 18:55, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hm

Your talkpage message was rather premature. Let's talk after you've figured out whats going on. Poveglia (talk) 14:41, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Poveglia:
  1. Responding to an editor who is frustrated by a protracted content dispute with If you want someone to agree with you you should pay them for that service up front.[1] is entirely inappropriate and wholly unhelpful.
  2. If someone comes to a help forum with an issue that you do happen to be personally involved in, let someone else handle it rather than overtly fanning the flames with bad faith accusations. Furthermore, don't contradict others who do try to help on subject with which you are unfamiliar. I assure you, the OTRS team is diverse and competent, and well able to handle a wide variety of issues with professionalism.
You may consider this a warning. Help forums are specifically set aside as friendly places for editors to seek assistance. If you continue to contribute in a way that is counter productive, you will not be the first person I've seen topic banned from contributing to them all together. GMGtalk 14:51, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I explicitly wrote: "Let's talk after you've figured out whats going on.". Yet you ping me already. Wouldn't it be better to give me the benefit of the doubt until you've figured out what's going on instead of jumping in with both feet and fanning the flames like you did? It's not that I don't want to talk to you, I am happy to, but let's do that on a level playing field where both parties know what's up. Poveglia (talk) 14:52, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Our conversation had a bit of a rough start; if you want to we can forget about that and start over. Poveglia (talk) 16:04, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Poveglia: The message here is fairly straightforward. You are more than welcome to contribute to our helping forums so long as you contribute in a manner that is helpful. If I see another response like this one Please do not post the same question twice, you are wasting our time (see also here, and feel free to read that essay in its entirety) to an editor who has made all of four edits, yet cannot find their sandbox, then the next correspondence you will received from me will be this one.
It's fine to make mistakes and occasionally get things wrong. Our helpers will be happy to give advice if you do, and contributing to our helping forums is a great way for everyone to learn about Wikipedia, whether they're asking questions or answering them. But you cannot be abrasive. A lot of people have put a lot of work into making these welcoming place for others to seek advice, and that much is non-negotiable. GMGtalk 16:26, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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