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:{{u|Momoflisa}} You have submitted it correctly, however the problems still seem to remain. Like I said, I'd suggest adding to [[Hitachi]] rather than having a separate article. [[User:Galobtter|Galobtter]] ([[User talk:Galobtter|pingó mió]]) 04:33, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
:{{u|Momoflisa}} You have submitted it correctly, however the problems still seem to remain. Like I said, I'd suggest adding to [[Hitachi]] rather than having a separate article. [[User:Galobtter|Galobtter]] ([[User talk:Galobtter|pingó mió]]) 04:33, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

== Reversion at Donald Trump in violation of 1RR restriction - Arbitration enforcement ==

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31 hour blocks

I was interested to discover this statement on your User Page regarding 31 hour blocks.

  • "Guess it's really true that things are done in wikipedia because that's the way it has always been done."

Perhaps another way to look at it is that (1) wikipedia is creating its own traditions and/or (2) having conventions such as this keeps us from having to reinvent the wheel over and over and over again. I am not a conservative by nature, but I do appreciate a sense of history. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 17:00, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that's another way to see it. Galobtter (pingó mió) 17:02, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
As my wife's bump be sticker reads, "On the other hand we have . . . ...more fingers." Carptrash (talk) 17:03, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

John Astor

Thank you for reverting the posts by 'SNUGGUMS'. He ought to be banned, but I don't know how to make a report. I have the relevant Times Guides to the House of Commons, and will add sourced details for John Astor in due course. 88.104.149.26 (talk) 21:50, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Hi Galobtter, Why can't we have a separate article on Bachelor of Homeopathic Medicine and Surgery just like MBBS or any other degree courses? Why did you redirect the BHMS article to Central Council of Homoeopathy, which seems to be a govt. organization? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elton-Rodrigues (talk • contribs) 13:37, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Elton-Rodrigues The degree is only in india unlike say MBBS. It's regulated by that organization - which sets the qualifications. Also unlike MBBS, I didn't see enough coverage for a separate article, so I though it was better to merge there. (The material is still there) Galobtter (pingó mió) 13:43, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Galobtter; Bachelor of Homeopathic Medicine and Surgery (BHMS) is an Indian govt. recognized undergraduate degree course just like Bachelor of Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery. No matter if the course is only in India. University Grants Commission (India), AYUSH has recognized it, what more recognition does it require? About coverage, there are plenty of sources available on the Internet. After my initial research over Google, I am sharing some of few news refs, i found TheWire, DNA, Livemint, and Times of India, Deccan Herald. There are great refs available on HighBeam and Google Books as well. I think we can create a separate article just like Bachelor of Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery. What do you say?--Elton-Rodrigues (talk) 21:16, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Elton-Rodrigues Do you see anything in the sources that would allow you to expand what is already there in the Central Council of Homeopathy article? You can add any material there, and if gets too long, then it can be split off. Galobtter (pingó mió) 04:31, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A cookie for you!

For your recently contributions. Nice. HindWikiConnect 14:08, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nom Nom Nom. Thanks HindWIKI! Galobtter (pingó mió) 14:13, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It's really nice. Keep it and Thanks. HindWikiConnect 14:16, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Trump North Korea

Hi Galobtter.

I'm trying to sort out what happened on the little bit in the lede where you reinserted the "pressured NK" language after I had reverted it and it was under discussion. I can see that you briefly accepted Anythingyouwant's view that this was OK, but then the discussion continued -- I don't think that I was aware of your reinstatement at the time -- and I continue to find the argument for "pressured" without any specifics to be a POV insinuation that the Administration is actually pressuring or doing anything at all about the issue, when in fact we have no reports about what if anything they're doing to counter NK. Do you feel that the single word "pressured" is better than "mocked and threatened...", or "mocked and threatened NK to pressurr it..." ? I couldn't tell whether this got lost in the wash or whether you now prefer simply, "pressured". As I've said, this sort of thing, which comes up in many of these active Trump articles, adopts the statements of the Administration as true descriptions of their policies, even when RS consistently tell us that their self-descriptions are false. To take an example from recent news, WP should not report the current tax legislation as a "middle class tax cut" or "jobs bill" -- both repeated assertions of the Administration -- when RS cite expert analysis to the contrary. Tweeting insults and threats vs. North Korea do not constitute "pressure" because they have no demonstrated effect on NK nor any basis in theory or policy for expecting such effect. What do you think? SPECIFICO talk 23:28, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think pressure seems reasonable. It has been reported in RS. I do agree we shouldn't use the administration's talking points, but RS do use pressure. Maybe "mocked and pressured", but to be honest I really don't care that much. Galobtter (pingó mió) 04:46, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I don't care either. I have more or less given up trying to whack-a-mole all the POV language tilts that come up in these articles. Some of the users are not native English speakers and may not be fully aware of their mistakes, but I think in some cases the twists and turns are too clever by 1/2. The idea that Trump has applied pressure is treated by most RS as a laughable and frightening misrepresentation of his actions. Even Sen. Corker spoke out about this. The American Politics articles have lost nearly a dozen great editors over the past year simply due to disgusted attrition at the tactics of the motivated partisans. The good news is that eventually there will be much less room for spin and deflection as historical perspective on these events becomes clearer. Thanks for your reply. SPECIFICO talk 05:07, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Did you look at the talk page before making this edit? I only ask, because I literally just posted there about 2 minutes ago an explanation that we don't change content based on WP:OR, which is what he provided. I was trying to encourage him to learn about OR a WP:RS and adding proper sources. Then you just go and make the change anyway. I thought perhaps the timing was so close you missed my reply. - theWOLFchild 09:25, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thewolfchild I did see your reply. However he was not trying to add material; WP:OR only talks about adding material - not removing. It's uncited, and so can be removed as having failed verification (does it make sense to leave false information in an article?). It would be different if he was trying to contradict a reliable source, but in this case it's actually quite likely the original material was OR too.. Galobtter (pingó mió) 09:30, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. But in light of my reply, it sends the wrong message. We want to encourage proper sourcing. And in light of that, and that fact that I agree with you about it being unsourced, I am going to add a ((cn)) template to see if we can flesh out a source. Better than straight up deleting. If no source can be found in a timely manner than I agree it should be removed. Thanks for the reply. Cheers. - theWOLFchild 09:36, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bleach Blonde Baby

This track is more significant than interweb which is an independent wikipedia page. The music video had a lot to talk about but I hadn't exactly finished it yet but I saw it as acceptable to be published at that certain stage. smartalek22 (talk) 16:33, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and here's my edit conflict comment. I see that you reviewed "Bleach Blonde Baby" (I didn't write it but reviewed and edited the page for its original author) and are concerned about its notability. The 18-second preview of the newly released video just trended #1 to #3 on YouTube, and the video itself was released yesterday to hundreds of thousands of views. The song itself is one of the main songs on an album released in October which has been listed as one of the top 20 pop albums of the year by Rolling Stone magazine. It should have more references, and will undoubtedly receive those, but I'd say its notability has been established by the tour and album, and will be established further. Just my two-cents French Euro. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:35, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Smartalek33 and Randy Kryn That interweb song looks quite possibly like it needs to be merged in too. Also it's preferable that instead of having lots of short articles on songs, we instead have one good and long article on the album - Notability aside, a standalone article is appropriate only when there is enough material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album. So you can add the content (viewable here), to the album article instead, and only if there's too much, then you can split it off. Galobtter (pingó mió) 16:41, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I would respectfully differ, as Poppy is a prominent artist and the album and songs having their own separate notability per other single-song pages related to other artist's albums. The "Interweb" page is picking up quite a few views, and these will increase. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:45, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Randy Kryn I mean I don't see more than a good paragraph or two being written it. I quoted from WP:NSONG, a guideline - assuming the song is notable, it doesn't make sense to have an article on it when a lot of the stuff on the page is just repeating content from the album article. The material is still there and people can still see it. People can still read about the song "Interweb", it's just not on a separate page. Galobtter (pingó mió) 16:48, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The music video was only released yesterday for Bleach Blonde Baby it has already trended on youtube. As for interweb. It has been performed on national television in the US and that is why they deserve independent articles. smartalek22 (talk) 16:55, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Smartalek33 It is possibly notable. However why not include the content in one nice article on the album? (perhaps under a section called "Singles") Galobtter (pingó mió) 16:56, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The #1 trending on YouTube for its preview (of all things) may count as a chart listing, although I'm not sure. Would that get it over the hump? I'm assuming it will pick up more notability, and one unique thing about the video for the song is that the artist spells out quite clearly "Everybody dies" in happy fuzzy party-style presentation and lettering, fuzzy lettering that she has used as an identifier for her videos. Quite interesting actually, and I advise you not to listen to it or any of her videos, as soon you will be addicted and then where would we be. In any case, if kept both these song pages should probably be simple names without the qualifiers (song) etc., as BBB doesn't have any other listing on Wikipedia. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:57, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I just don't see the point of having 3+ separate articles on each song + one on the album when they can be included in one article. As the guideline NSONG says, even if the song is notable it still may be preferable to have merge all the content into one page if there isn't enough material for a seperate article. The title of the song will still redirect to the description of the song, just they're all collated in one page. Galobtter (pingó mió) 17:01, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I will add more to the article and include references. There are quite a few details I haven't added. smartalek22 (talk) 16:58, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fly, Smartalek33, fly. In the meantime, many albums and artists have article for songs, and these two from this debut studio album will, I'd say (WP:CRYSTAL at hand), stand the test of time, and by time I mean how about giving these a couple of weeks and see where they land? I again implore you, Galobtter, not to delve too deeply or at all (sort of like The Simpsons opening saying that nobody should view it) into Poppy, as you may be trapped into a very interesting artist, singer, and the overall patterns that she and her associates have been creating for several years now. Randy Kryn (talk) 17:09, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Reason of Tagging for Deletion?

About BambooHR, The issue of wrong writing style is solved about award list. The Software page cited references from PCMag, Deseret News, Inc. (magazine), Entrepreneur (magazine), Bloomberg, Daily Herald, The Financial Express, Forbes, and The Salt Lake Tribune so there is no need to raise question on notability of the topic.

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EShami The point of the process is so we can discuss whether it should be kept or not. If you can convince people that it is notable, then it will be kept. The awards list still seems to be there, just into prose. Its still entirely promotional, writing about how it's "known for being the best place to work" etc. Galobtter (pingó mió) 11:11, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Question on resubmitted page

Hello,

I authored a page on Hitachi Vantara. You declined the page so I reworked it and resubmitted it. Not sure if I resubmitted it correctly. Can you check to see if you see the revised page and let me know? Or point me in the right direction? Thank you!

Momoflisa — Preceding unsigned comment added by Momoflisa (talk • contribs) 23:28, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Momoflisa You have submitted it correctly, however the problems still seem to remain. Like I said, I'd suggest adding to Hitachi rather than having a separate article. Galobtter (pingó mió) 04:33, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Reversion at Donald Trump in violation of 1RR restriction - Arbitration enforcement

Please undo your last reversion, as it is within 24 hours of your last reversion on the article. The current page restriction reads: You must not make more than one revert per 24 hours to this article]], must not reinstate any challenged (via reversion) edits without obtaining consensus on the talk page of this article, and are subject to discretionary sanctions while editing this page. Thank you in advance! Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 04:23, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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