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: Thank you for the remark, but is it again nonsense what you did there. --[[User:Florentyna|Florentyna]] ([[User talk:Florentyna#top|talk]]) 07:00, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
: Thank you for the remark, but is it again nonsense what you did there. --[[User:Florentyna|Florentyna]] ([[User talk:Florentyna#top|talk]]) 07:00, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
::I agree with you that the report was a mistake, but calling it "nonsense" is probably not the most helpful to describe it, as I have no doubt it was made in good faith. Likewise, when someone makes an edit in perfectly good faith, even if you regard it as mistaken, calling it a "troll attack" is not helpful. The effect of doing so is likely to be to make other editors see you as being obstructive (even though I think you too were acting in good faith). It is important to realise that Wikipedia fundamentally depends on cooperation, and anything which looks, rightly or wrongly, like incivility makes such cooperation less likely. Generally speaking the editors who are most successful here are those who are civil even when they think civility is not deserved, and assume good faith even when they have doubts about the motives of other editors. [[User:JamesBWatson|JamesBWatson]] ([[User talk:JamesBWatson|talk]]) 08:03, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
::I agree with you that the report was a mistake, but calling it "nonsense" is probably not the most helpful to describe it, as I have no doubt it was made in good faith. Likewise, when someone makes an edit in perfectly good faith, even if you regard it as mistaken, calling it a "troll attack" is not helpful. The effect of doing so is likely to be to make other editors see you as being obstructive (even though I think you too were acting in good faith). It is important to realise that Wikipedia fundamentally depends on cooperation, and anything which looks, rightly or wrongly, like incivility makes such cooperation less likely. Generally speaking the editors who are most successful here are those who are civil even when they think civility is not deserved, and assume good faith even when they have doubts about the motives of other editors. [[User:JamesBWatson|JamesBWatson]] ([[User talk:JamesBWatson|talk]]) 08:03, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

I have read [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJamesBWatson&action=historysubmit&diff=431795331&oldid=431794194 your response to this on my talk page]. If what you say is true then you may be right about the "troll attack". However, it didn't look that way in the ANI discussion. Perhaps the thing to do in cases like this is to just give a few words of explanation as to why you see it as trolling, so that other editors can understand your point. [[User:JamesBWatson|JamesBWatson]] ([[User talk:JamesBWatson|talk]]) 09:21, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

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Badminton at the Deaflympics

Hello, I noticed that you created and have been the sole editor of the "Badminton at the Deaflympics" article. I also notice that there are alot of red links on the article with only one wikilink to an article about Rajeev Bagga. May I ask if you intend to write articles on the other participants? If not, may I make the suggestion that the red links be converted to normal text to make it easier to read. I did not want to make any edits to the article without getting your opinion first as I respect the work that editors do on Wikipedia. Russell Dent (talk) 01:41, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

From my side there will be probably only articles about Kristina Dovidaityte und her husband Tomas. So if you want to make the other links black feel free to do so. --Florentyna (talk) 06:59, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for adding those categories on my article. Appreciate it. MetaCow (talk) 02:43, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. --Florentyna (talk) 06:16, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jordan Badminton Federation

Hello! Since you'd done some work on the article and clearly intend to expand it, I'll gladly restore the article. It got swept up by the mass deletion function. Thanks for alerting me to my error. Regards, --PMDrive1061 (talk) 19:19, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot. --Florentyna (talk) 19:22, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Anytime.  :) It's up and ready to go with the entire edit history intact. Thanks again. PMDrive1061 (talk) 19:24, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Misbun article

Yeah, somebody sure did add a lot of content, and not only is much of it ungrammatical but some of it is just plain factually wrong. Where did somebody get the idea that Misbun was the first Malaysian to reach the top level of international play by age 24? If that editor doesn't know about Eddy Choong or Tan Aik Huang then he shouldn't be writing about Malaysian badminton players. Anyway, I'll see what I can do. Regards. Badmintonhist (talk) 17:25, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot, there are for me a lot of translation errors. Probably thats why some "facts" appear now in a wrong way. --Florentyna (talk) 20:55, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Florentyna. Could you possibly describe the 1982 incident that Misbun Sidek was involved in? I simply can't understand what happened as it is now described in the article and I don't want to leave the whole thing out when I rewrite it. Thanks. Badmintonhist (talk) 20:55, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Here is an article about Misbun's behavior. [1] Here is a second one: [2] Florentyna (talk) 07:03, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

May 2011

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Intoronto1125TalkContributions 21:51, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the remark, but is it again nonsense what you did there. --Florentyna (talk) 07:00, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with you that the report was a mistake, but calling it "nonsense" is probably not the most helpful to describe it, as I have no doubt it was made in good faith. Likewise, when someone makes an edit in perfectly good faith, even if you regard it as mistaken, calling it a "troll attack" is not helpful. The effect of doing so is likely to be to make other editors see you as being obstructive (even though I think you too were acting in good faith). It is important to realise that Wikipedia fundamentally depends on cooperation, and anything which looks, rightly or wrongly, like incivility makes such cooperation less likely. Generally speaking the editors who are most successful here are those who are civil even when they think civility is not deserved, and assume good faith even when they have doubts about the motives of other editors. JamesBWatson (talk) 08:03, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have read your response to this on my talk page. If what you say is true then you may be right about the "troll attack". However, it didn't look that way in the ANI discussion. Perhaps the thing to do in cases like this is to just give a few words of explanation as to why you see it as trolling, so that other editors can understand your point. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:21, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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