Hey Ed, I wonder if you can help. in regards to Omid Kurdistani's ethnic background, there seems to be a lot number of Persian ethnics in wiki and the web, some are administrators I believe, try to impose Persian ethnicity on Omid Kurdistani, just because he (Omid) mentioned that he is either Iranian, or that he was born in Tehran, or that he speaks Persian, and that they never heard him speak Kurdish???? These Persian wiki/web individuals rush deliberately to impose that Omid Kurdistani is not a Kurd but a Persian??!! just thought to give you some heads up in regards to the region’s mentality and the Kurdish issue at the forefront as it seems from your name (Anglo Saxon) you are a neutral individual ...........You see, a person born in Tehran, says I am Iranian (Kurds are actually Iranian but they are not Persians), and speaks Persian, can without any doubt be an ethnic Kurd. These Persian individuals know this fact 100%, but they deliberately ignore it. the reason I am saying this is because this description actually describes myself as well. there are thousands and thousands of Kurds in the same situation that do not even speak there mother tongue. In middle east no ethnic Arab, Persian, nor Turk, will name his family name as Kurdistani unless he is actually originally Kurd himself or is descended from a Kurdish heritage, one reason is that the hate they carry toward everything Kurdish,. if you follow the news of the region and the tension between different ethnicities you'll know this fact.....you see the story goes like this with those individuals, let's take an example of the famous Kurd Saladin > he was always described by Arabs and other ethnics that he is either Arab, Turk or whatever, although there are tons of historical records that always described him as a Kurd, but these docs were deliberately brushed aside just because this Kurd made a fame and glory in history that he became an envy of the world, automatically these individual model type go to work and bring up amazing fantasies that will describe him as from their background or other, but NOT KURDISH, the fantasies goes that he is related to this Arab tribe that was kurdisized, that he is Iranian origin lived with the kurds became bla bla bla bla.....etc....etc....etc If Omid's Name was Omid Faresi, they would have said, Faresi means Persian then he is a Persian. I do not have a problem if Omid actually is a persian, but the problem is he never said that, there are no sources to prove this, he said I am iranian (well kurds are also Iranians), he speaks in Persian (well actually many Kurds speak several languages, persian, arabic, and turkish all at the same time). I wonder if Saladin lost war against the crusade, I am 100% sure that none of those model types would have said he belonged to their race, they'd say right a way, oooh he is Kurdish.......I hope you understand what I am saying.

As myself am from Middle East, NOT ONE OF THOSE ETHNICS EVER OTHER THAN THE KURDS THEMSELVES WILL CARRY THIS NAME PROUDLY. I have never seen or heard that somebody with kurdistani name is not Kurdish, they are either lying, or that the individual became assimilated, and only the name survived this assimilation. There are thousands and thousands of families all over the middle east with the name kurdistani, Kurdi, or Al kurd, or al akrad, or kredi that are totally assimilated into other ethnics, but their origin survives in the name. Omid might be assimilated to persian, but the way of our culture back in middle east, the ethnic related last name designates the individual as ethnically belonging to that group, this rule does not apply in Turkey, as all the names forced MUST be TURKISH, such as the leader of kurdish party Ahmad TURK.

One interesting question I have, why after all this upheaval in regards to Omid’s ethnic origin, why Omid did not come out and verbally announced that he IS NOT KURD, and that HE IS AN ETHNIC PERSIAN

Can you please investigate this web site, reverse the changes that imposes the persian ethnicity on him (if you found what I write makes sense of course), and then if you may correct his ethnic designation from Persian to Iranian (Since Kurdish & Persians are Iranians) and then please restrict access to those individuals.

God Bless —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.15.174.73 (talk) 20:50, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

His birth in Tehran is well-sourced in the article. There is even a video of a speech he gave at a college commencement where he says he was born in Tehran. Do you think our article should contradict what he says himself? EdJohnston (talk) 21:48, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Many Kurds are born in Tehran, that does mot make them Persians, but they are Iranians, there is no argument about it. he says I am Iranian, therefore, the ethnicity should be changed to Iranian —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.254.122.70 (talk) 22:44, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Ed You have not responded to my last message!!?? Where does in your references says that he is a persian??? the article in wiki should adhere to acknowledged and authentic references, that is your policy, not according to the preferences and likings of some groups or the other, right!!! No where does Omid says he is a persian? Persian is an official language in Iran, but ethnically they are only approx half of the population makeup. To be Iranian does not mean that you are Persian, you can be an assimilated one, but does not mean that your ancestry is Persian, there are other minorities in Iran (the other half) that are either Kurdish, Azeri. Luri, Bakhtyari, Balouchi that do not consider themselves as Persians, and some are fighting to keep their identity alive contrary to the government's policies. Wiki's article explicitly defines Omid as Persian without authentic references, until such references (from authentic source, i.e. other than Persian magazines or web sites) will be brought into light, the wiki article should remove all wordings imposed that he is a Persian, and substitute it at least with Iranian. You have to understand that Kordistani surname is deliberately carried or created by individuals or families for nationalistic reason, so the family origin will be inscribed indefinitely, there have been hundred and hundred years of assimilation process imposed on Kurds who still and will resist to be assimilated, and that is why many Kurds carry surnames as such. Kurdistani or Kordestani is a Kurdish province means the land of the Kurds, the carriers of this name are all ethnic Kurds, there are no individuals with surname Kurdistani who is non-Kurd, let those who say in contrary bring one individual that is Persian, Turkish or Arab. if they claim so, it means they are liers, no one of those ethnic group will define themselves as such, as all those groups are against the smallest land rights to be given to Kurds, not to mention recognizing officially a geographical area called Kordestan. I am a Kurd, my mother tongue is Arabic, born in Arab land, I don't speak Kurdish, but I never or will consider or claim my self as an Arab. Again, I am not claiming where he is born, in Teahran or los Angeles or Kordestan that is not my point. Awaiting your response Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.254.122.70 (talk) 23:35, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what happened? I may have deleted the page by mistake when editing, re-posting it again.

Ed please see the last two paragraph, I have not received your response

Thanks

Hey Ed, I wonder if you can help. in regards to Omid Kurdistani's ethnic background, there seems to be a lot number of Persian ethnics in wiki and the web, some are administrators I believe, try to impose Persian ethnicity on Omid Kurdistani, just because he (Omid) mentioned that he is either Iranian, or that he was born in Tehran, or that he speaks Persian, and that they never heard him speak Kurdish???? These Persian wiki/web individuals rush deliberately to impose that Omid Kurdistani is not a Kurd but a Persian??!! just thought to give you some heads up in regards to the region’s mentality and the Kurdish issue at the forefront as it seems from your name (Anglo Saxon) you are a neutral individual ...........You see, a person born in Tehran, says I am Iranian (Kurds are actually Iranian but they are not Persians), and speaks Persian, can without any doubt be an ethnic Kurd. These Persian individuals know this fact 100%, but they deliberately ignore it. the reason I am saying this is because this description actually describes myself as well. there are thousands and thousands of Kurds in the same situation that do not even speak there mother tongue. In middle east no ethnic Arab, Persian, nor Turk, will name his family name as Kurdistani unless he is actually originally Kurd himself or is descended from a Kurdish heritage, one reason is that the hate they carry toward everything Kurdish,. if you follow the news of the region and the tension between different ethnicities you'll know this fact.....you see the story goes like this with those individuals, let's take an example of the famous Kurd Saladin > he was always described by Arabs and other ethnics that he is either Arab, Turk or whatever, although there are tons of historical records that always described him as a Kurd, but these docs were deliberately brushed aside just because this Kurd made a fame and glory in history that he became an envy of the world, automatically these individual model type go to work and bring up amazing fantasies that will describe him as from their background or other, but NOT KURDISH, the fantasies goes that he is related to this Arab tribe that was kurdisized, that he is Iranian origin lived with the kurds became bla bla bla bla.....etc....etc....etc If Omid's Name was Omid Faresi, they would have said, Faresi means Persian then he is a Persian. I do not have a problem if Omid actually is a persian, but the problem is he never said that, there are no sources to prove this, he said I am iranian (well kurds are also Iranians), he speaks in Persian (well actually many Kurds speak several languages, persian, arabic, and turkish all at the same time). I wonder if Saladin lost war against the crusade, I am 100% sure that none of those model types would have said he belonged to their race, they'd say right a way, oooh he is Kurdish.......I hope you understand what I am saying.

As myself am from Middle East, NOT ONE OF THOSE ETHNICS EVER OTHER THAN THE KURDS THEMSELVES WILL CARRY THIS NAME PROUDLY. I have never seen or heard that somebody with kurdistani name is not Kurdish, they are either lying, or that the individual became assimilated, and only the name survived this assimilation. There are thousands and thousands of families all over the middle east with the name kurdistani, Kurdi, or Al kurd, or al akrad, or kredi that are totally assimilated into other ethnics, but their origin survives in the name. Omid might be assimilated to persian, but the way of our culture back in middle east, the ethnic related last name designates the individual as ethnically belonging to that group, this rule does not apply in Turkey, as all the names forced MUST be TURKISH, such as the leader of kurdish party Ahmad TURK.

One interesting question I have, why after all this upheaval in regards to Omid’s ethnic origin, why Omid did not come out and verbally announced that he IS NOT KURD, and that HE IS AN ETHNIC PERSIAN

Can you please investigate this web site, reverse the changes that imposes the persian ethnicity on him (if you found what I write makes sense of course), and then if you may correct his ethnic designation from Persian to Iranian (Since Kurdish & Persians are Iranians) and then please restrict access to those individuals.

God Bless —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.15.174.73 (talk) 20:50, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

His birth in Tehran is well-sourced in the article. There is even a video of a speech he gave at a college commencement where he says he was born in Tehran. Do you think our article should contradict what he says himself? EdJohnston (talk) 21:48, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Many Kurds are born in Tehran, that does mot make them Persians, but they are Iranians, there is no argument about it. he says I am Iranian, therefore, the ethnicity should be changed to Iranian

Hello Ed You have not responded to my last message!!?? Where does in your references says that he is a persian??? the article in wiki should adhere to acknowledged and authentic references, that is your policy, not according to the preferences and likings of some groups or the other, right!!! No where does Omid says he is a persian? Persian is an official language in Iran, but ethnically they are only approx half of the population makeup. To be Iranian does not mean that you are Persian, you can be an assimilated one, but does not mean that your ancestry is Persian, there are other minorities in Iran (the other half) that are either Kurdish, Azeri. Luri, Bakhtyari, Balouchi that do not consider themselves as Persians, and some are fighting to keep their identity alive contrary to the government's policies. Wiki's article explicitly defines Omid as Persian without authentic references, until such references (from authentic source, i.e. other than Persian magazines or web sites) will be brought into light, the wiki article should remove all wordings imposed that he is a Persian, and substitute it at least with Iranian. You have to understand that Kordistani surname is deliberately carried or created by individuals or families for nationalistic reason, so the family origin will be inscribed indefinitely, there have been hundred and hundred years of assimilation process imposed on Kurds who still and will resist to be assimilated, and that is why many Kurds carry surnames as such. Kurdistani or Kordestani is a Kurdish province means the land of the Kurds, the carriers of this name are all ethnic Kurds, there are no individuals with surname Kurdistani who is non-Kurd, let those who say in contrary bring one individual that is Persian, Turkish or Arab. if they claim so, it means they are liers, no one of those ethnic group will define themselves as such, as all those groups are against the smallest land rights to be given to Kurds, not to mention recognizing officially a geographical area called Kordestan. I am a Kurd, my mother tongue is Arabic, born in Arab land, I don't speak Kurdish, but I never or will consider or claim my self as an Arab. Again, I am not claiming where he is born, in Teahran or los Angeles or Kordestan that is not my point. Awaiting your response Thank you