Please place your comments under the appropriate category (if you don't, I will).

Welcome

Hi DB, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thanks for your contributions to the coolest online encyclopedia I know of =). I sure hope you stick around; we're always in need of more people to create new articles and improve the ones we already have. You'll probably find it easiest to start with a tutorial of how the wikipedia works, and you can test stuff for yourself in the sandbox. When you're contributing, you'll probably find the manual of style to be helpful, and you'll also want to remember a couple important guidelines. First, write from a neutral point of view, second, be bold in editing pages, and third, use wikiquette. Those are probably the most important ones, and you can take a look at some others at the policies and guidelines page. You might also be interested in how to write a great article and possibly adding some images to your articles. Be sure to get involved in the community – you can contact me at my talk page if you have any questions, and you can check out the village pump, where lots of wikipedians hang out and discuss things. If you're looking for something to do, check out the community portal. And whenever you ask a question or post something on a talk page, be sure to sign your name by typing ~~~~. Again, welcome! It's great to have you. Happy editing! --Spangineer (háblame) June 29, 2005 14:41 (UTC)

Airline Infoboxes

Thanks for updating that information on the Southwest Airlines and Westjet pages. Phoenix2 04:59, August 11, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting and updating counter:)

Thanks for reverting and updating counter:). These vandals to my user page, courages me for fighting against them:) We must stay cool as cucumber:)--Ugur Basak 22:49, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I think the user's been blocked, fortunately. Dbinder 22:55, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually user names or ips doesn't matter. One goes, one comes. By the way, you organized your usertalk page interesting.--Ugur Basak 23:00, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Victoria Harbour Water Aerodrome

Thanks. I can't believe I moved it to Vancouver. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 03:40, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ooops! Thanks for catching that over on LAX

DUH! I was half-asleep when I put Frontier on over there, and it showed. Thanks for catching that! FCYTravis 16:41, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User page format

Hey Dbinder...would you be offended, annoyed, or flattered, if I copied your "where I've been, what I've flown" formatting for my user page? Since I'm also very in to airports, airlines, and travel, I have no better ideas for mine. Trevormartin227 02:21, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Swiped your airline info!

I hope you don't mind, I, erm, "borrowed" your airline information sections from your userpage and put it on mine. Love it! FCYTravis 05:55, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

		The Original Barnstar
		For your hard work and dedication to improving Wikipedia, I, Sharkface217, hereby award you this Original Barnstar. Good job! Sharkface217 18:26, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

SkyTeam template

Thank you for switching the SkyTeam template. R.Koot kept on changing it everytime I did.--Golich17 00:59, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

787 infobox

I see you've added a specs infobox to Boeing 787 despite there already being a specs table at the bottom. Also, the aircraft wikiproject has abandoned the infobox in favor of an inline list-based format, so adding an infobox (with the old colors, no less) to a new/ongoing article is a bit out of fashion. So—just letting you know that if you don't change/remove it, someone else very probably will. Have a good one! -eric ✈ 16:49, 12 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Despite the modifications to the infobox, it's still not really acceptable. Here's one reason why. For various others, as discussed at the wikiproject, I'm removing it from the 3 or 4 other Boeing airliners you've added it to. If you can work out the issues of page alignment without moving the images then go for it, otherwise please refrain. -eric ✈ 20:41, 13 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Asiamiles

The main thing that tipped me into keeping it is the fact it's still used on a couple of fairly major airline articles. If you could get that sorted out, I'm sure it could be re-listed and would probably go through unopposed. Dan100 (Talk) 14:25, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Middle East Airlines Wikipedia page

Hi, could you please stop renaming the name of the airline to Middle East Airlines, Air Liban.

Air Liban was Lebanon's other major airline which ceased to exist as an independent entity in 1963 when it merged with MEA.

For a brief while after the merger, the airline marketed itself as "Middle East Airlines - Air Liban" however, the Air Liban part quickly disappeared and it just became "Middle East Airlines" again.

The only remnant of the Air Liban name is in the title of the parent company which is Middle East Airlines / Air Liban SAL. This is the equivalent of AMR Corp and UAL Corp. However, you don't say "I'm flying on UAL Corp." you always say "I'm flying on United Airlines" or "I'm flying on United."

SAL stands for Société Anonyme Libanaise (it's French) which is just the incorporation form of a basic Joint Stock Company offered by the Lebanese government.

I hope this clears the misunderstanding. I know the press releases about MEA joining SkyTeam as an associate member have used "Middle East Airlines, Air Liban" but this is incorrect. Air Liban is only left in the name of the parent company and it is even sometimes left out. Sometimes you will just see "Middle East Airlines SAL." The only reason why it is officially left is for nostalgic and historical purposes.

You can check out their website for more information: http://www.mea.com.lb

And for historical information, this is an amazing website: http://wassch71.tripod.com/cedarjetpages.html

Thank you for your understanding.

Hello, as I have stated, Middle East Airlines / Air Liban is only left in the name of the parent company.

MEA does not market itself as Middle East Airlines / Air Liban. When you fly them, you will not once hear them announce themselves as Air Liban. It is always just Middle East Airlines.

Take a look at the message left by the chairman: http://www.mea.com.lb/MEA/English/Corporate/ChairmanMessage.htm

In his message, he always refers to the airline as MEA or Middle East Airlines. Middle East Airlines / Air Liban is the name of the company, but they market themselves as Middle East Airlines.

Go on Airliners.net and check out some photos of MEA, you will not find anywhere the word "Air Liban." The word "Air Liban" ceased to exist after the merger and was kept in the name of the parent company for historical and nostalgic purposes, but the airline no longer markets itself as Middle East Airlines / Air Liban. They only marketted themselves "Middle East Airlines - Air Liban" after the merger, then it disappeared entirely.

To give you an example, check out the American Airlines page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines

The title of the airline is American Airlines and the title of the parent company is AMR Corporation. To change the airline name to Middle East Airlines, Air Liban as you did would be the equivelant of changing the airline name from American Airlines to AMR Corporation when this is not true.

I stress again, the name of the airline is Middle East Airlines, not Middle East Airlines / Air Liban. Only the parent company is called Middle East Airlines / Air Liban. The CEO, Mohammed El-Hout is the CEO of the company Middle East Airlines / Air Liban SAL, but the airline markets itself as Middle East Airlines.

Again, go on Airliners.net and look at some pictures of MEA. You will not see the name Air Liban anywhere because the airline hasn't marketed itself Middle East Airlines / Air Liban in more than 30 years.

The full legal name of the airline is Middle East Airlines or MEA. The name of the parent company is Middle East Airlines / Air Liban SAL. There is a difference.

Middle East Airlines / Air Liban SAL owns three other subsidiaries, they are Middle East Airports Services (MEAS), Middle East Airlines Ground Handling (MEAG) and Mideast Aircraft Services Company (MASCO).

Age of consent

Thanks for your non-anonymous edit on this page, it's refreshing change. However you didn't leave a comment as to why you deleted edited the text. Could you please give us the reasons behind your edit? Also if you have any authorities to back up your edit perhaps you would like to cite them as per the notes in each section and the talk page's "AoC Challenge" topic. Cheers :) Monotonehell 06:19, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry that was meant to read 'edited' not 'deleted' up there. That's great that you've cited an authority! Thank you very much. Only a few hundred more entries to go - lol. Monotonehell 10:54, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Friendly Reminder

When using template tags on talk pages, don't forget to substitute with text by adding subst: to the template tag. For example, use {{subst:test}} instead of {{test}}. This reduces server load and prevents accidental blanking of the template.

FYI, this reminder was sparked by your not subst'ing the afd2 template on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Singapore Airlines fleet, making it impossible to edit it from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/Today -- Thesquire (talk - contribs) 17:05, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/O.A. Accidents

Please read my comment in this AFD discussion. If material is merged its edit history needs to be retained. Therefore it's not allowed to delete it. Please finish a merge with the creation of a redirect. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:39, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Airline Logotypes

I've noticed many of the logotypes you've added to airline pages appear to be from the Aerosite.net logotypr library. Use of the logotypes is OK, but I do ask that you credit Aerosite as the source of the images. Thanks! Aerosite 14:55, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nanaimo Harbour Water Aerodrome

You may have missed this Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports/Archive2#Layout and formatting of ICAO + IATA codes and if you look at other airports (Ann Arbor Municipal Airport) the codes are also in both the article and the infobox. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 17:26, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. It was in the archive so I figured you'd missed it.

Skyteam hubs

You could have suggested a merger rather than taking it to AFD (just noticed your comment on the afd save). Yomangani 18:13, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NWA

Archive

See Civilized Discussions archive

oneworld

Hi, I saw that you followed a couple of my edits on Oneworld capitalization. I have two comments. I personally am fine with the "first instance" rule, but I don't think the MOS really "allows" this. Do you think we ought to work this into the MOS? Second, would you be ok with only allowing lowercase "oneworld" when the instance is bold-able, such as the the first line of an article (Oneworld or Oneworld destinations) or the template? I still think it looks weird and is more against the spirit of the MOS when it is lowercase in inline text with nothing to make it stand out. -- Renesis (talk) 19:41, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

787 Infobox (Continued)

I see that you chose to ignore my request and haven't brought this new addition up with wp:air at all. That really would be the most polite of your options, especially if anonymous users are going to claim that I'm "vandalizing" the article that I and several other users have been cooperating on for quite some time. We just had a survey as well as an ongoing discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft that has arrived at not using infoboxes for aircraft information. If you worked with us, rather than parallel to us, we might be able to improve the article in a more effective manner. There really are a dozen or so reasons why tables in general are unwanted, particularly at the top of the page; they're in the survey linked from the talk page as well as on the talk page itself. Thank you in advance for cooperating with the project. -eric ✈ 00:52, 15 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Narita

It is just common sense that this is NOT a hub. They offer very little in the way of connections from NRT. Where is the Vietnam flight oritionating from. Use your head man, Narita is far far far from a hub for united.

Read this one. NRT may have been at one time, but it is not anymore. A hub is define loosely as more than 50 departures a day. NRT is not a hub Hubs

Codeshares

Hi. Hope you also sent to the similar "alert" to the other editor who also insistly revert the article. Fairness should be important even in the Cyberspace, right? And then I would be great if you also join the discussion about the topic. Thank you. KGF 23:10 08 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Fairness should be important for anyone according to the US education, shouldn't it? Hope you surely warn the exact same alert to the other editor, who broke the three-revert rule. By the way, would you revert the following sentence? Otherwise, it qualifies as a revert by you, Mr. Fairness. It should be 'valid' or you check it out by yourself.

• JALWays (Bangkok, Denpasar, Guam, Honolulu, Saipan)

Thank you.KGF 00:35 08 May 2006 (UTC)

787 infobox (continued)

Sorry if I came off wrong; I'm not attacking or accusing you of anything (although I kind of wish the infobox had been a less intense shade of green). Please note that I've not removed the boxes a second time. I'm simply asking - since some other users feel the infobox contains useful information, and because I think it could be worked into the article more smoothly - that you work with the project. If you don't want to, that's fine. We'll figure something out.

I'm not the only one in the project who dislikes infoboxes, but as I'm a web designer who works with semantic code and web standards, I'm the most vocal about it. Because the Wikipedia is addicted to infoboxes, I need to be vocal to make the reasons understood. For example: adding the boxes, particularly to the 767 article, really messes with how pages look in the browser - I'm not sure if you'd noticed or checked. This is my biggest issue with them, that they force wikipedia editors to write and lay out their pages around the infobox rather than the other way around. Images, additional tables, headers - they all get forced around by the table. They're also inaccessible to less-able readers, a group which I feel the Wikipedia should go out of its way to accommodate in ways a print encyclopedia never can.

As writer, I feel that the information you'd placed in the infobox might as well be threaded into the introduction rather than presented as a standalone block. Some of the information you've added to 787 (in particular) contradicts what is in the main body: launch is scheduled for 2008, and the 3 is short, not medium-range. As I already said - I'm not going to remove them again. If or when you (or someone) else ever integrates them better into the articles or cleans up the infobox (which is why I dropped a message to user:xmnemonic, cleaning up wikipedia tables is what he does) then I'll do what I can. Again - sorry for the miscommunication on my part. -eric ✈ 16:53, 15 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Glad we've gotten this worked out. The wikiproject doesn't have any real rules by a long shot, mostly replacing them with opinionated loud people, so thanks for agreeing to work on how the information is presented. For some examples of some articles we in the project have been able to really refine, check out B-36 Peacemaker (ex-Featured Article) and PBY Catalina (ongoing). -eric ✈ 17:13, 15 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Swiss & South African

In regards to your question about LX and SAA joining the Star Alliance, I read a thread on airlines.net stating the move, must've been a rumor. But according to UA's website the two airlines will be joining on the 31st of this month, with codeshares beginning immediately. We can edit Star Alliance page then. Apologies if my message is in the wrong category Jendeyoung 07:22, 19 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bold text in oneworld

replied Thanks/wangi 14:48, 27 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Airline articles

Wow. I was only trying to remove a single external link, I have no idea how all that happened. Sorry about that. // Pathoschild 23:29, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

On a related note, would you mind telling me why you replaced my user page with text from my talk page? // Pathoschild 23:36, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Star Alliance

Hi there, just looking for an explanation of this edit. When you go here, it says (in the bottom left corner) "Air Nova is proud to be a part of Star Alliance". I could be missing something though. Thanks! Ouuplas 21:42, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh, I see. I think Air Nova was independent at the time that website was made though. Air Canada bought them in 2001 and merged it into Air Canada Jazz. I'll let you deal with it though. Thanks, Ouuplas 23:45, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Same dbinder?

Did you work as a summer intern at PatientKeeper in Brighton? —Steve Summit (talk) 14:23, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was a spooky coincidence. I had written a script (in sh, natch) to select usernames randomly from Special:Recentchanges, fetch their user page, and count the userboxes. (No, don't worry, I'm not a fanatic on either side of that stupid debate; I'm just trying to collate some hard data on actual usage.) While debugging it, of course I had to fetch some pages by hand to check the counts, and yours was the first that came up. (My script correctly counted 10. :-) )

As you may know, I'm not at PK any more; and as you may also know, it's in Newton now.... —Steve Summit (talk) 14:53, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Big Dig deletion debate

Howdy. I didn't mean anything by removing the AfD notice, I only took it as vandalism since the starter didn't open a discussion. My bad - RPIRED 14:50, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Archive

See Miscellaneous archive

Alitalia article

Hi Dbinder,

Just wondering if you can help with the Alitalia article. Someone has been trying to vandalise it to remove all the facts about its customer services.

Many thanks --Kalpha 14:05, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. It seems that it has now stopped. But it happened twice. I was simply wondering if there are any tools to protect the article or track changes. --Kalpha 00:03, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

polls/voting/whatever

Hey, I noticed that *you* noticed that Radiant is everwhere someone mentions a straw poll. Him and and a couple other editors recently tried to make Wikipedia:Discuss, don't vote, a guideline. Theres no discussion of consensus at all, and I would assume that very few people realize it was recently changed from the Voting is Evil essay, to that page. I find Radiant to be a very abusive and violent editor, I just.. don't understand. Just letting you know that your opinions over at WP:DDV would be appreciate. Fresheneesz 07:52, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Seasonal service

Footnotes have been used for the better part of a year on certain pages to note seasonal destinations. They clean the page up, and are transitioning into more pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrewb729 (talk • contribs)

Flags in airline infoboxes

Hi db, noticed you've also been removing these, see WP:AIRLINES#Flags in the infobox. Thanks/wangi 18:38, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Airline programs

The admin who made the redirect, W.marsh, was unaware of the wikiproject guidelines that these articles should have their own pages. He gave me permission to revert the change and has corrected his mistake by going back to remove the AfD himself (you can verify this from the page history and on his talk page at the appropriate thread). Simply put, the true consensus is made on the wikiproject guidelines and not the individual articles. While the effort you seem to put into helping to draft the airlines wikiproject is admirable, the seeming ease at which you ignore inconvenient guidelines (or ones you don't agree with) is ironic and inappropriate. So far your thread on changing the guideline has had no response and so these articles stay until there is further action elsewhere. Parnell88 01:28, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Yellowknife Airport

Replied at the above talk page. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 13:09, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

addLoadEvent

Hi, one of your user scripts uses the addLoadEvent( func ) function (see [1]). This function will be removed from MediaWiki:Common.js soon. Please modify your scripts to use addOnloadHook( func ) instead. —Ruud 18:34, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Austin-Bergstrom International Airport

Hi Dbinder. I removed the wiki links from AAL and COA because they were already refered to and linked earlier in the article. Thadius856 had noticed this on October 13 using AWB and removed the second links, but an anonymous user (75.42.224.179) added the links earlier today (to which I reverted for said reason). Clipper471 22:32, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-11-18 Singapore Changi Airport

Hi there. A Mediation cabal case has been opened regarding the dispute at Changi Airport. The mediators, User:Hunterd and I, would like to hear everyone's stand on the dispute. Any input is very welcome at Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-11-18 Singapore Changi Airport#Discussion, could you please indicate your stand regarding the dispute, and why you think the names should stay/go? Thanks, – Chacor 02:28, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings! You are being contacted to be notified that a Request for Arbitration has opened and you were listed as an involved party. You can find the discussion and make a statement at Wikipedia:Requests for Arbitration#Huaiwei and Singapore Changi Airport. Thank you for your cooperation. thadius856_{talk|airports|neutrality} 20:11, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]