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==Graham Masterton==

Ah well! It makes up for your double redirects on GI joe and Gi Joe. It's six am and I've been at work all night I need to sleep. [[User:CambridgeBayWeather|CambridgeBayWeather]] [[User_talk:CambridgeBayWeather|(Talk)]] 13:04, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

:lol k ;) --[[User:Chaosfeary|Chaosfeary]] 13:06, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

::I knew I should have taken up drinking at work. [[User:CambridgeBayWeather|CambridgeBayWeather]] [[User_talk:CambridgeBayWeather|(Talk)]] 13:18, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

{{test2a-n|Islam}} [[User:68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] 22:04, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

== Jihad etc..==

Thanks , I know about BrandonYusuf and the other members of the Islamic thought police. They incessantly patrol wikpedia pages to try to bully in their [[Mutaween]] versions of wikipedia articles.--[[User:CltFn|CltFn]] 15:41, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

==New serial vandal, "Pete the Cunctator"/"I'm back!"==

It also includes [[User:Ha ha ha some dude]]. See [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]]. [[User:CambridgeBayWeather|CambridgeBayWeather]] [[User_talk:CambridgeBayWeather|(Talk)]] 13:47, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

:Thank you for dealing with this user. I know who they are and am in the process of doing something about them. However I have taken the liberty of deleting my address from your user talk page and will be asking a developer to delete it from the message you posted to the incidents notice board. -- [[User:Francs2000|Francs]][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Francs2000&amp;action=edit&amp;section=new 2000] [[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|25px|<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:40, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

::I just tried that - it means personally restoring over 24,000 edits, one at a time until I get ot the one with my address on it. A developer can do it a lot quicker. -- [[User:Francs2000|Francs]][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Francs2000&amp;action=edit&amp;section=new 2000] [[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|25px|<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:45, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

::PS I also deleted your message to CambridgeBayWeather on his talk page regarding another vandal, and can't restore it because it would mean also restoring an edit with my address in it - can you go and add that again? -- [[User:Francs2000|Francs]][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Francs2000&amp;action=edit&amp;section=new 2000] [[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|25px|<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:46, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

==[[User:BrandonYusufToropov]]==

I have left a note on his talk page indicating that you are not a sockpuppet. [[User:CambridgeBayWeather|CambridgeBayWeather]] [[User_talk:CambridgeBayWeather|(Talk)]] 16:18, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

== Harassment by [[User_talk:BrandonYusufToropov|BrandonYusufToropov]]/[[Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Yuber#Statement_by_User:IZAK|YUBER]] super-sockpuppet... ==

These two are never editing at the same time, yet act and talk in very much the same way...<br>

'''[[Special:Contributions/Yuber|Yuber contributions history]]'''<br>

'''[[Special:Contributions/BrandonYusufToropov|BrandonYusufToropov|BrandonYusufToropov contributions history]]'''

===Yuber===

(Past history of personal attacks and POV-trolling, see [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Yuber#Statement_by_User:IZAK|Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Yuber]]).

*Reverts any edits I make, puts in edit description "banned editor".., see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Yuber&action=history User_talk:Yuber history] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Islam&action=history Talk:Islam history].

*Violates [[WP:NPA]] repeatedly, insults me and others, and inserts [[WP:NPOV|POV]] in articles constantly.

*Is likely sockpuppeteer of [[User_talk:BrandonYusufToropov|User:BrandonYusufToropov]], they are never editing at the same time and never talk to each other - Act in very much the same way.

===BrandonYusufToropov===

UserBrandonToropov has been harassing me, [[User_talk:Ta bu shi da yu|User:Ta bu shi da yu]] and [[User_talk:Klonimus|User:Klonimus]] keeps making [[WP:NPA|personal attacks]] in edit histories to make them not easily viewable except by people he doesn't like the edits of.

See:

*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AJihad&diff=29473973&oldid=29473889 edit on Talk:Jihad]

*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AIslamofascism_%28term%29&diff=29482945&oldid=29482713 Removal of move requests by me and more "evil"/"damien"-like insults]

*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Islamofascism_%28term%29&action=history Islamofascism (term) edit history]

*[[User_talk:Ta bu shi da yu]]

*[[User_talk:HappyCamper]]

'''(+) edit''' *[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AIslamofascism_%28term%29&diff=29283727&oldid=29283338 personal attack left on Talk:Islamofascism (term) about Klonimus]

He says sorry in the edit history of Islamofascism (term) but that only appeared after I made a complaint about him on this page which is also mentioned on User:Francs2000's talk page - He obviously saw it and is worried that he might actually get in trouble for it at last.

I have been blocked once for making *one* personal attack on him already (see [[User_talk:Chaosfeary#Block]]) by [[User:SlimVirgin]] (I called him an "ugly little anal-troll" in an edit history, the previous edit by him had in the edit history "don't listen to chaosfeary enviroknot sockpuppet" or some crap like that

It seems there's one rule for everyone else yet he is allowed to insult people all he wants... --[[User:Chaosfeary|Chaosfeary]] 15:24, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

--[[User:Chaosfeary|Chaosfeary]] 15:24, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

:He removed [[User:CambridgeBayWeather]]'s warning on [[User_talk:BrandonYusufToropov]], much as he tends to remove any comments he doesn't like..

:So, how come when I attack him, I get blocked (by [[User:SlimVirgin]]), but he is free to do what he wants and continue to insult multiple people violating [[WP:NPA]]? I only made *one* insult against him and I was immediately blocked.

:See the links above, those are just some of the examples.. I would not be surprised if he in fact was a sockpuppet of [[User_talk:Yuber|User:Yuber]] '''(see [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Yuber]], he has used sockpuppets before)''' since he was the one to start calling me "enviroknot" (an old enemy of his apparently) then quieted down and then BrandonYusuf starts in his place.. Suspicious... --[[User:Chaosfeary|Chaosfeary]] 16:26, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

== Follow up ==

Hi again - I'm just trying to get back to you regarding the post you made [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AHappyCamper&diff=29474589&oldid=29411335 here]. My apologies for not responding to your post earlier. I've posted a note on BrandonYusufToropov and Yuber's talk page an FYI regarding the checkuser results.

I'm sorry to hear that you feel personal attacks towards you have not stopped. This is something I feel we can all refrain from on Wikipedia. This is the approach that I will take regarding such things moving forward in your case - I do not intend on monitoring edits of other users for the purposes of tracking down personal attacks towards you, nor will I act on them if they are made on pages made outside of the jihad article. There are two reasons for this. The first, is because I do not want to overextend myself. I want to help mediate the talk page for the jihad article so that at minimum the edit war will stop. If I begin to do other things, I may not be as effective towards this end. The second, is that I also think that it takes away from creative editing if too much time and effort is dedicated towards documenting personal attacks - of course, if something simply unacceptable were to happen off the jihad talk page, I will act on it. Please, let me know should this ever happen - but also choose judiciously what is worth pursuing. I should emphasize that I think for now, I feel most comfortable monitoring just the jihad page at the moment. I'll do my best to help you if something happens elsewhere, but if I am unable to do it myself, I will invite another administrator to take a look at it and let you know.

So long as I am monitoring the jihad page, you can expect that I will intervene on that page to the best of my ability so that your editing experience is not diminished by the participants on that page. If you notice, the atmosphere on that page is slightly better now - and this is primarily because the posts are now less loaded, and the use of the second person has decreased. This to me is a little bit of progress, and I hope that this trend continues to improve. If you want to talk further about this, let me know on my talk page, or send me an e-mail. I'll do my best to respond, but keep in mind that I have other responsibilities outside of Wikipedia, so it may not be as timely as it can be. I hope this addresses your concerns - see you around! --[[User:HappyCamper|HappyCamper]] 03:20, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

== MB? ==

I'm not sure that your move of the article on the Muslim Brothers was correct. See [[Wikipedia:Naming Conventions]]:

<blockquote>Convention: If the definite or indefinite article article would be capitalized in running text, then include it at the beginning of the page name. This would be the case for the title of a work such as a novel. Otherwise, do not include it at the beginning of the page name.

Examples: The Hague, The Old Man and the Sea but: the Netherlands.</blockquote>

I think the move should probably be reversed. [[User:Palmiro|Palmiro]] | [[User talk:Palmiro|Talk]] 12:31, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

:Ok, didn't know about that. Yeah, that's fine. --[[User:Chaosfeary|Chaosfeary]] 13:04, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

== Wow, ugly ==

And it's not even the Firefox logo.

That's the Firebird logo, not the Firefox one. Entirely inappropriate.

--[[User:Chaosfeary|Chaosfeary]] 23:48, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

I know but some people like it and I thought an alternate version was better than having people revert back and forth till everyone was pissed off. [[User:Bartimaeus|Bartimaeus]] 07:59, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

==Brandon==

Chaosfeary, I'm a little worried about the direction things are going with you and Brandon. I don't think you should restore removed comments to his talkpage. If you think he has behaved inappropriately, contact an admin and ask for them to get involved. That kind of policing is better done by them than by people involved in a given dispute. Also, I'm not sure it was a great idea to remove Brandon's comments from the talkpage of [[Islamofascism]]. You may very well have been within your rights to do so, but I'm not sure, and it's much better to ask for an admin to do such things than to do them yourself. Basically, I think when you're involved in a dispute, it's better to ask for an admin's help rather than undertaking potentially controversial actions yourself. Anyway, just my thoughts. I offer them because you seem like you have a lot to offer to Wikipedia and I want to keep you around! Wikipolitics can be annoying, but it is necessary. Regards, [[User:Babajobu|Babajobu]] 13:52, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

:Ok... I'll try that in future, sorry. [[User:CambridgeBayWeather]] previously pointed out to us both that his habit of removing negative comments from both users and administrators from his talk page constantly is actually vandalism, though, that was my reason - If this needs to be left to administrators in future, ok, I will - I'm still a bit miffed really that I got blocked (by [[User:SlimVirgin]]) for calling him one name (in response to constant abuse from him) and nothing ever happens to him... Seems a lot of bias... --[[User:Chaosfeary|Chaosfeary]] 13:56, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

:: Well, he can get comeuppances, too. SlimVirgin just left a note with him telling him to stop accusing you of being Enviroknot. And he spent a lot of time trying to argue for [[Islamofascism]]'s removal, but it's now here to stay. So Wikipedia is full of frustrations for everybody! [[User:Babajobu|Babajobu]] 14:24, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

::: Chaosfeary, a plea from a friend: concentrate on the articles and avoid the personality wars. Just ignore the other stuff, don't even talk about other users. It's not worth it. You'll end up with a long-term ban, and I don't want to see that. [[User:Babajobu|Babajobu]] 03:13, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

==Sockpuppet allegations==

Chaosfeary, please stop accusing Brandon and Yuber of being sockpuppets. They aren't, and their style of writing clearly shows that.

:Their styles of writing and edits are actually very similar, have you got someone to check that they aren't the same? Normally I would just believe that, but I saw elsewhere that you don't seem to know how to check user accounts and had to get [[User_talk:Jayjg|admin Jayjg]] to do it for you instead... --[[User:Chaosfeary|Chaosfeary]] 14:18, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

I've also asked Brandon to stop alleging you are Enviroknot.

:Other admins (eg [[User_talk:CambridgeBayWeather]]) have already asked him to stop doing this: He deleted their requests from his talk page (apparently this counts as vandalism too) and ignored the warnings.. --[[User:Chaosfeary|Chaosfeary]] 14:18, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Please stick to using this one account and concentrate on editing within our policies. If you do that, no one can reasonably fault you, and you should call upon the help of any admin if you continue to be attacked. However, if you use other accounts or IP addresses, or engage in personal attacks, you put yourself in the wrong, even if you're being attacked too.

:I have already been doing this, those other accounts Brandon/Yuber constantly mentions are *not* me, and I have already mentioned this...

You may want to consider staying away from the Islamofascism page for a few days to let the situation calm down a bit. Cheers, [[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]] ^{<font color="Purple">[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|(talk)]]</font>} 13:58, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

:Yuber and BrandonYusufToropov are obviously not the same person, and the technical evidence confirms that - please desist from making this accusation. While there is no technical evidence linking you to Enviroknot or the open proxies, and while it is extremely unlikely that you are Enviroknot, it is quite obvious that FluffyPinkKittensofDoom is a revert sock related to those open proxies. [[User:Jayjg|Jayjg ]]^{<small><font color="DarkGreen">[[User_talk:Jayjg|(talk)]]</font></small>} 17:27, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, but those "proxies" aren't me. --[[User:Chaosfeary|Chaosfeary]] 17:43, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

:::I asked Jayjg to do the user check because only a small number of arbitrators have access to it. If Brandon says again that you're Enviroknot, tell me about it, please. As for him deleting posts from his talk page without archiving them, it's regarded as bad form, but it's not vandalism. [[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]] ^{<font color="Purple">[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|(talk)]]</font>} 04:06, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

== American Terrorism ==

G'day Chaosfeary,

I note from your userpage that you are "mourning the loss of civility" on Wikipedia. I don't believe edit summaries like [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=American_terrorism&diff=29697238&oldid=29697224 this one] do anything to advance the cause of [[WP:CIVIL|civility]] in our community. I know it's hard to keep one's head in the middle of a rvt war (speaking of which, by protecting that page I've prevented you and Mr McConaughey from breaching [[WP:3RR|the 3RR]] ... tsk, tsk), but please consider moderating your tone in the future. Cheers, [[User:MarkGallagher|fuddlemark]] ([[User talk:MarkGallagher|fuddle me!]]) 15:06, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

== "Wikipedia Boycott Campaign" ==

The purpose of the "Wikipedia Boycott Campaign" would be to call attention to the systemic issues plaguing Wikipedia. This boycott would consist of refusal to participate in contributing to Wikipedia. I appreciate your thoughts on the matter. Refer to [[User:JuanMuslim/Wikipedia_Boycott_Campaign]] for details. Please address any questions, suggestions, etc you may have at [[User talk:JuanMuslim/Wikipedia Boycott Campaign|talk -Wikipedia Boycott Campaign]]--[[User:JuanMuslim|JuanMuslim]] ^{[[user:JuanMuslim| ''1m'']]} 04:52, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

:Umm, you created it yet you're not even interested in doing it yourself ("neutral")... I can't see much point in it in any case, it's not like it will achieve anything except letting the admin+user cliques run rampant. --[[User:Chaosfeary|Chaosfeary]] 09:10, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

::I copied your comment to the talk page I mentioned earlier. --[[User:JuanMuslim|JuanMuslim]] ^{[[user:JuanMuslim| ''1m'']]} 15:57, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

== Blocked for disruption ==

I've blocked you for 24 hours for disruption on multiple articles (including [[Islam]] and [[Christianity]]). [[User:Carbonite|Carbonite]] | [[User talk:Carbonite|Talk]] 17:07, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

:And Carbonite was being merciful. I was fairly close to blocking you indefinitely. Please do not abuse his trust that you might return productively. --[[User:Nlu|Nlu]] ([[User talk:Nlu|talk]]) 17:14, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Ah, I see I was too late; I had blocked him as well. [[User:Jayjg|Jayjg ]]^{<small><font color="DarkGreen">[[User_talk:Jayjg|(talk)]]</font></small>} 17:23, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

==[[Optical fiber]]/[[Optical fibre]]==

STOP MOVING PAGES AROUND! This is extremely disruptive!--[[User:Srleffler|Srleffler]] 22:06, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

:No, it's not disruptive. What's more disruptive is you abusing admin privileges to move back a perfectly sensible page move just because of your own views, instead of discussing first... --[[User:Chaosfeary|Chaosfeary]] 22:07, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

::Please don't move large numbers of pages without discussing first. In particular edit warring over regional spellings is considered quite in appropriate. Stop, or I at least will start considering such moves [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]]. -- [[User:SCZenz|SCZenz]] 22:18, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

I've blocked you for a week, for the above highly disruptive and clearly malicious moves, and for mass-altering other user's comments on [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Films]]. -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]] | [[User talk:Finlay McWalter|Talk]] 22:34, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

:What the hell are you talking about? "Clearly malicious"? How? It was not directed at [[User:Srleffler]] if that's what you mean, the above response was only after he reverted me (I'd never even heard of him before, let alone had a reason to be "malicious" towards him)...

:I moved the page because I thought it should be moved, and I didn't move it to something absurd which would be vandalism (eg "magic cable"). That's not vandalism. Neither is correcting links that go to redirection pages... --[[User:Chaosfeary|Chaosfeary]] 22:36, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

:I also blocked for one week. If my block was the second one, consider it an affirmation of Finlay's block. [[User:Carbonite|Carbonite]] | [[User talk:Carbonite|Talk]] 22:38, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

::And I was just about to do the same. You're pushing the boundaries of acceptable behaviour here, and I suggest that you take a step back and consider what you're doing more carefully in the future.--[[User:Sean Black|Sean]]|[[User talk:Sean Black|Bla]]<font color="green">[[Wikipedia:Esperanza|ck]]</font> 22:42, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

:::If there's any more trouble from this account, I'm going to consider blocking indefinitely. [[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]] ^{<font color="Purple">[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|(talk)]]</font>} 22:43, 9 December 2005 (UTC)