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Hi, Carol. I must be missing something. I did go through the talk page before making this edit, and have just done so again, and can't see the consensus about short lead, etc. Who objected to the long-standing quote from what I reckon's a pretty good article in the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy (certainly much better than the Stanford one)? Or, more importantly, on what grounds? |
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Always seemed to me it was a good two-sentence way, from a neutral source, of summing up much of the article's content - which, of course, is supposed to be a major function of any lead in the first place. The current startling terseness, apart from anything else, seems to militate against, rather than further, that end. Are you still battling with the Rahmbo fans, by the way? I gave up in disgust. Really admired the way you kept tussling against the Praetorian guard. I just couldn't hack it. Found the whole phenomenon quite sickening and even sinister. Regards [[User:Wingspeed|Wingspeed]] ([[User talk:Wingspeed|talk]]) 18:08, 5 January 2009 (UTC) |
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|style="border-top: 1px solid gray;" | For being the "Last of the Mohicans"--one of the few women who has not been driven off the [[WP:GGTF|Gender Gap Task Force]] or the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gender Gap Task Force|GGTF ArbCom case]]. |
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Hi, Carolmooredc. |
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:I shortened it a few months back when someone was messing with it and figured since it had stayed that way it was consensus. I personally thought it was too wordy and unduly stressed differences. On the other hand, I won't put up a fight about it if you want to put it back. I also don't have a problem with saying some people call lib. a synonym for anarchism if done the way I describe, as I told the editor a couple times. |
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I have seen this rather amusing barnstar floating around and cannot think of anyone who deserves it more than you do. You have continued to [[WP:NOTSUICIDE|Assume Good Faith]], and have patiently answered even the most hostile statements, long after anyone else would have lost patience and concluded that they were being trolled. Just for the record, this is no longer a gender-specific barnstar, but the irony of the original version is just too perfect. |
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:I decided to let events characterize Rahm, rather than pulling out my hair to get in the briefest mentions of certain issues. I've put it in the "pulling out my hair" category on my userpage :-) [[User:Carolmooredc|CarolMooreDC]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc#top|talk]]) 18:41, 5 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Regards, —[[User:Neotarf|Neotarf]] ([[User talk:Neotarf|talk]]) 13:50, 10 November 2014 (UTC) |
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:: Friend of mine ([[Heathcote Williams]]) has just come up with a good coinage: ObamaRahma. Which enables us now to refer to the dazzling ObamaRahma display team. Which I've just done on the excellent Lenin's Tomb. If you don't know it, best one-man blog I know of, with possible exception of Wood's Lot. Thank you for your tolerance; I will reinsert that quote. I think, in the context, and in the absence of anything better, it's quite important. I agree with you that the anarchism/synonym sentence needs to be there. [[User:Wingspeed|Wingspeed]] ([[User talk:Wingspeed|talk]]) 20:51, 5 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Thanks. I actually looked up WP:NOTSUICIDE and I don't get it. As I asked at talk "Does it mean we can kick obvious trolls butts? Or that we should quit rather than commit suicide?" <small>'''[[User:Carolmooredc|Carolmooredc]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc|Talkie-Talkie]])'''</small> 13:56, 10 November 2014 (UTC) |
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::Ha, ha, enjoy. —[[User:Neotarf|Neotarf]] ([[User talk:Neotarf|talk]]) 15:01, 10 November 2014 (UTC) |
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== Feminists Engage Wikipedia == |
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:Now there is a pro-active extroverted bot, at least its owner is watching; maybe too early! I have no problem with it, except that it shouldn't appear like an advertisement prior to the announced date; that sounds un-wiki. It seems just so perfectly planned for the new Prez's first full day at work. [[User:CasualObserver'48|CasualObserver'48]] ([[User talk:CasualObserver'48|talk]]) 14:14, 9 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::I guess I should break down and put it in the UK article during this short period that everything isn't being deleted. However, I believe it could stay on wikicommons if not used, right? :-) [[User:Carolmooredc|CarolMooreDC]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc#top|talk]]) 15:16, 9 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Back at ya! But you know my definition of feminist: any woman who doesn't take any bull in any part of her life. So that's most of 3.6 billion women on the planet :-) <small>'''[[User:Carolmooredc|Carolmooredc]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc|Talkie-Talkie]])'''</small> 23:55, 10 November 2014 (UTC) |
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==Kittens and puppies for helpful and friendly editors== |
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Don't have energy to post separately. These are for those who have seen through the nonsense of the last six months, whether or not you have yet chosen to speak out.<br><center><small>'''[[User:Carolmooredc|Carolmooredc]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc|Talkie-Talkie]])'''</small> 15:24, 22 November 2014 (UTC)</center> |
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<small>Also feel free to delete any of those negative/nasty/harassing comments I always get if anyone leaves them here, since I probably won't be allowed to.</small> |
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== Your return is eagerly awaited !!!! == |
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Hi Carol - I just came across your comment on "genre" vs. "form", etc. -- which you posted at the ''bottom of the page''. I think you probably meant it to be part of [[Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_January_15#Categories_by_genre|this discussion]], so you might want to move it to the correct section if that was your intent. [[User:Cgingold|Cgingold]] ([[User talk:Cgingold|talk]]) 23:03, 15 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:I'm pretty sure that's what you meant to do, so I went ahead & moved it, as other editors were starting to add their replies. [[User:Cgingold|Cgingold]] ([[User talk:Cgingold|talk]]) 23:47, 15 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::Thanks. [[User:Carolmooredc|CarolMooreDC]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc#top|talk]]) 23:51, 15 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Loved the kittens !!! Lots of people eagerly await your return. IMO, you are getting the rough treatment because they were powerless to protect you from those out to harass you. So, they cover their own weakness in this way. What other option do they have ? In a way, I approve that you should leave, rather than suffer for contributing in a community which failed you with its inability to stop the harassers. Best.[[User:OrangesRyellow|OrangesRyellow]] ([[User talk:OrangesRyellow|talk]]) 15:24, 28 November 2014 (UTC) |
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:Being a glass half-filled optimist, I see reform as inevitable, even if I retire to my jacuzzi and my polo matches. Right... {{Smiley}} <small>'''[[User:Carolmooredc|Carolmooredc]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc|Talkie-Talkie]])'''</small> 15:27, 28 November 2014 (UTC) |
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::Reform is inevitable. It is just a question of how many people must suffer, and be scapegoated/sacrificed like you, before the community comes to its senses.[[User:OrangesRyellow|OrangesRyellow]] ([[User talk:OrangesRyellow|talk]]) 15:50, 28 November 2014 (UTC) |
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Now I do realize that the article about neolibertarianism is flawed from the beginning and deletion is the best thing to do, and your assertion on the "OR/BLP" materials, although I still cannot completely subscribe too, has certain merits to consider. And for all of your great expertise on libertarian issues and other political things, there's a barnstar =) |
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:::Hmmm, gives me ''yet another idea''. A quickie video like on [[Talking Dead]] with the names of "this decades departed" scrolling by to dirge music with faded death masks as background. Of course, I'm sure there were a few who really did deserve it. I even supported one myself once! <small>'''[[User:Carolmooredc|Carolmooredc]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc|Talkie-Talkie]])'''</small> 16:23, 28 November 2014 (UTC) |
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Please accept this barnstar in recognition of your attempts to change the current culture of Wikipedia. I hope you return with a renewed passion for the project and keep your sense of humour. In the meantime, do take a look at other open knowledge projects, there are plenty that deliver excellent worthwhile outcomes, not only encyclopaedias. Commons, for example, has far less self-feeding dramah and far fewer wikilawyers. [[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|talk]]) 17:22, 28 November 2014 (UTC) |
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|style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | I bestow the '''Society Barnstar''' to you, Carol Moore, for your knowledge and contributions to Wikipedia on political philosophy. [[User:Wandering Courier|Wandering Courier]] ([[User talk:Wandering Courier|talk]]) 01:28, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== Thanks == |
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*Yow! Thanks. :-) [[User:Carolmooredc|CarolMooreDC]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc#top|talk]]) 01:30, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Thank you for the adorable kittens! I may have a dog now but I grew up a cat person and I still love them. |
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== Historical context == |
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I wish things had worked out differently. I hope to see you back as soon as possible. Until then, may your days be filled with relaxation, happiness, and kittens. [[User:Ca2james|Ca2james]] ([[User talk:Ca2james|talk]]) 17:23, 28 November 2014 (UTC) |
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You might be interested to Google this book[http://books.google.com.ph/books?id=1bXETKMOI1cC&hl=en], ''Israel, the Diaspora, and Jewish Identity'', by Danny Ben-Moshe, Zohar Segev, et.al, and find Chapter 12, ''The Reflection of Israel within British Jewry''. It may assist with historical context and editorial perspective for the amazing number of nitty-gritty edits that you have performed on several articles. Chapter 7 is equally enlightening elsewhere. Regards and congrats on the Barnstar. [[User:CasualObserver'48|CasualObserver'48]] ([[User talk:CasualObserver'48|talk]]) 06:42, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Guess Wikipedia needs a wikilove puppy lobby! <small>'''[[User:Carolmooredc|Carolmooredc]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc|Talkie-Talkie]])'''</small> 22:49, 28 November 2014 (UTC) |
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== A pie for you! == |
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Hi. Could you please add description and source info for [[:File:FBIphoto04-19-93.JPG]] which you uploaded? (What does the photo show? Where is the photo from -- who took it, where did you get it?) Thank you. Cheers, -- [[User:Infrogmation|Infrogmation]] ([[User talk:Infrogmation|talk]]) 13:54, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Info is in there now. [[User:Carolmooredc|CarolMooreDC]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc#top|talk]]) 14:09, 22 January 2009 (UTC) |
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==Hey Ms Carol== |
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Good Morning Ms Carol. I hope all is well. And that you have a peaceful and joyful day. |
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To free will! |
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[[User:LoveMonkey|LoveMonkey]] ([[User talk:LoveMonkey|talk]]) 14:35, 22 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::Hey Hey Ms Carol, I added some minor stuff to the libertarian metaphysics article. They are [[Taleb]]. I hope your OK and doing great... |
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God Bless you, and you should be catholic ;>) |
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[[User:LoveMonkey|LoveMonkey]] ([[User talk:LoveMonkey|talk]]) 17:04, 17 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Took a quick look and as I believe I stated a while back in talk, most of the article is poorly sourced and/or WP:original research. But I don't know enough about to rewrite it properly. However, I do know how to delete all unsourced material, if I ever was sufficiently motivated :-) [[User:Carolmooredc|CarolMooreDC]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc#top|talk]]) 18:40, 17 February 2009 (UTC) |
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Many thanks for the adorable kitten you delivered to my talk page. I have used it as an ingredient in this delicious hot meat pie; please have a slice and take a moment to savour the taste and enjoy simpler pleasures. (Or, if vegetarian pies are preferred, you could leave this one for meat-eating friends.) I hope to see you back on Wikipedia sooner rather than later. Gender equality here needs all the help it can get - not to mention civility, neutrality, and other oft-ignored principles. --[[User:Demiurge1000|Demiurge1000]] ([[User_talk:Demiurge1000|talk]]) 17:54, 28 November 2014 (UTC) |
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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Well take that then! You epistemological libertarian you! [[User:LoveMonkey|LoveMonkey]] ([[User talk:LoveMonkey|talk]]) 20:38, 17 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*Mucho gracias, senor naughty! <small>'''[[User:Carolmooredc|Carolmooredc]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc|Talkie-Talkie]])'''</small> 22:48, 28 November 2014 (UTC) |
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:: One more. I am so sorry, Carol. Best wishes to you. --[[User:GRuban|GRuban]] ([[User talk:GRuban|talk]]) 01:16, 29 November 2014 (UTC) |
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== Kitten == |
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Thank you for the kitten, which I will move to my user page. If you mean that Wikipedia was dragging you in and that the ArbCom case is letting you try something else in your retirement, so be it. But if you choose to come back after your time is served, you won't be a septuagenarian, but still a sexagenarian. I can do the arithmetic as well as you can, except that I don't have to do the arithmetic, because I'm a '48er also. I'm not that far from you either in time or in space (only, evidently, in gender). My sympathies or something. |
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I suppose that, as a libertarian, you have very mixed feelings about the late Mr. Barry. What ward are you in? [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 02:48, 29 November 2014 (UTC) |
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:Onward and upward and all that. I'm in ward 5. Met Barry in 1988 and he was definitely a charismatic figure. <small>'''[[User:Carolmooredc|Carolmooredc]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc|Talkie-Talkie]])'''</small> 04:44, 29 November 2014 (UTC) |
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== Kitten (2) == |
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I will do my best. Enjoy your Wikibreak. --[[User:The Vintage Feminist|The Vintage Feminist]] ([[User talk:The Vintage Feminist|talk]]) 15:31, 29 November 2014 (UTC) |
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== Good luck == |
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::Here's my theory of epistemology from [http://carolmoore.net/C&C-book.html this article] (before reading the wiki article which I'm sure is far more objective :-): ''EPISTEMOLOGY: (the nature of and means of seeking truth) Today science and philosophy suggest that there is no ultimate, unchanging truth. Physicists note that the mere act of observing even subatomic particles changes their motions. How much more easily are affected human actions. Some scientists suggest that even "natural laws" are not static and unchanging but ever-evolving. Logicians point out the impossibility of constructing perfectly logically consistent arguments. It seems neither God nor natural law has created some objective, knowable reality. Moreover humans are incapable of knowing reality objectively. Humans as much "construct" reality and truth as "discover" them. Each of us views reality through a unique "psychic grid" influenced by society's teachings, personal experience and individual interpretation. Therefore, while humans can understand more “accurate” truths, we will always recognize that even such truth evolves and that every individual will view it a little bit differently. Despite the seeming relativism of truth, humans must endeavor to discover the most accurate knowledge of the nature of reality and human purpose. And we must learn how to best combine, as appropriate, the three means to knowledge--intuition, reason (logic) and empirical (scientific) methods--to do so. We do not have to just going along with what the religious, social, economic and political "powers-that-be" call truth or reality.'' [[User:Carolmooredc|CarolMooreDC]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc#top|talk]]) 22:01, 17 February 2009 (UTC) |
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Good luck Carol. I entirely agree with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Carolmooredc&diff=635477114&oldid=635462158 Tarc's remark]. I look forward to your return. -- [[User:C1cada|C1cada]] ([[User talk:C1cada|talk]]) 23:25, 29 November 2014 (UTC) |
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Well [[N.O. Lossky]] and [[Gödel]]'s with his [[incompleteness theorems]] would bitterly disagree. Lossky was libertarian but well... here's an article I thought I might have already linked to you on objectivism or realism. .[http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/goldstein05/goldstein05_index.html] This is from Godel who told Noam Chomsky that he was trying to validate that all knowledge is A priori (to be discovered not made). Lossky states it clearer in All is immanent in all! Beautiful. [[Axiology]] still works (and quite well) we are just finite beings in an infinite world and this is the problem. [[Stochastic]]s are very epistemelogical very real. To [[noesis]]! As always love talking to you Ms Carol, your wonderful. |
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:Good luck Carol! I just saw the news of your ban, and find that rather unfortunate. We need more people voicing in a radical way critiques of gender equality on Wikipedia, and its a real shame that it came back to bite you. I didn't follow the conversation, but hope it doesn't discourage you from continuing in some capacity in shaping the Wikimedia community to better recognize harassment in the community. [[User:Sadads|Sadads]] ([[User talk:Sadads|talk]]) 19:52, 11 December 2014 (UTC) |
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[[User:LoveMonkey|LoveMonkey]] ([[User talk:LoveMonkey|talk]]) 13:24, 18 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*Will just drop here, for anyone interested, that Slate published an article today noting the incredible results of the arbitration, very negative piece. [http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2014/12/wikipedia_editing_disputes_the_crowdsourced_encyclopedia_has_become_a_rancorous.single.html]--'''[[User:Milowent|Milowent]]''' • <small><sup style="position:relative">[[Special:Contributions/Milowent|has]]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">[[User talk:Milowent|spoken]]</span></sup></small> 20:01, 11 December 2014 (UTC) |
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:::Hey Ms Carol. I have noticed something! There is no article at all for [[The God of the Machine]] by [[Isabel Paterson]]! [http://books.google.com/books?id=1uFiVBbM7gMC&dq=the+god+of+the+machine&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=wkFNRC773e&sig=w1DyfJktHNyek6Epb857-gbtcqk&hl=en&ei=NYulSefiA4OftwePmpHZBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=5&ct=result] Why is that? You know us kookz can for right now, still have our say. Hey I didn't do nothing. Hope all is well.[[User:LoveMonkey|LoveMonkey]] ([[User talk:LoveMonkey|talk]]) 18:21, 25 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*:Interesting to see a summary from an external world view. I have added the link to [[Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard#Wikipedia:Arbitration.2FRequests.2FCase.2FInteractions_at_GGTF_closed]]. --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|talk]]) 20:36, 11 December 2014 (UTC) |
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::::Not familiar with that book, though a fan of Koestlers "The Ghost in the Machine." Write up the article! [[User:Carolmooredc|CarolMooreDC]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc#top|talk]]) 18:23, 25 February 2009 (UTC) |
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Oh shanaigans! Your a bigger fan of Paterson then me :>P Hey, and you could put the mass killing machine spin on it! Crunch crunch, death to leviathan and all that. Wherez your indeterminate spirit? Also why haven't you looked at or worked on any of [[Eric Voegelin]]'s stuff? Since all of Ron's supporters keep quoting him on how both parties are really cults? Hey your Ms Carol your not allowed to get angry or hate :>) Remember thatz the way to the dark side of the force. Have a nice day Ms Carol. |
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[[User:LoveMonkey|LoveMonkey]] ([[User talk:LoveMonkey|talk]]) 18:35, 25 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::Little confused by your post. On a one hour a day wikipedia diet, which usually is mostly reacting to strange things already worked on or events of day which catch my eye. However, when start working on my next book might work on a few relevant articles cause it's a good way to make myself do research and find out what others think :-) [[User:Carolmooredc|CarolMooreDC]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc#top|talk]]) |
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::Eck. Well I hope this doesn't make it so things on wiki get any more [[Pagan]] (folky Yeah Ha!)- around here. At that point I would literially have to go. Since I am a libertarian in the philosophy of free will but not when it comes to being depraved :>P Also I am not in agreement with everyone on everything. But I thought that since Paterson was like the godmother of the libertarian feminist movement well you'd be a fan for sure. I mean she is not accepted by everyone. Also I do not agree with Ayn Rand. I also am a big supporter of the Isreal so me and you probably don't agree, but so what. |
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[[User:LoveMonkey|LoveMonkey]] ([[User talk:LoveMonkey|talk]]) 19:11, 25 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:Hm, that's quite a solid source for an entry at [[list of Wikipedia controversies]]. [[User:Tarc|Tarc]] ([[User talk:Tarc|talk]]) 21:02, 11 December 2014 (UTC) |
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Don't see how it is necessary to e-mail you for details... Tell me more about this sock. [[User:Lordmetroid|Lord Metroid]] ([[User talk:Lordmetroid|talk]]) 00:18, 30 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::FYI, I kept providing this link to editors and Arbitrators during Arbitration to show just how obsessed the media is with Wikipedia's gendergap, but they didn't believe me: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Countering_systemic_bias/Gender_gap_task_force/media| Wikipedia gender gap-related Media hits]]. (Note: I only made the Slate-quoted comment ''after'' Arbcom voted to ban me.) <small>'''[[User:Carolmooredc|Carolmooredc]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc|Talkie-Talkie]])'''</small> 02:12, 12 December 2014 (UTC) |
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:After thinking about it, I have to be careful not to out someone or share personal info where anyone can see it. I get the impression you are an Admin who can handle this sort of thing? But if might be a conflict of interest for you to deal with it if it isn't a wild coincidence that his email uses your user name in emailing me to deny he is same sock I've been dealing with for a while, who also has worked on things with or against you. Two of 3 people who last handled this sock not doing now; will have to search around to find the third one. [[User:Carolmooredc|CarolMooreDC]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc#top|talk]]) 00:32, 30 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::I am not an admin [[User:Lordmetroid|Lord Metroid]] ([[User talk:Lordmetroid|talk]]) 01:46, 30 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== You haven't been forgotten == |
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This member of [[WP:RETENTION]], hopes you'll decide to return & Arbcom will reinstate you. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 20:04, 3 December 2015 (UTC) |
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:Still years behind on my own projects, so not going to be tempted to return for a while. Plus I'd rather wait til Mediation program significantly beefed up, with paid Mediators if necessary, so I don't waste time in stupid arguments. Hopefully new arbitrators more savvy on wide variety of GGTF-type issues. <small>'''[[User:Carolmooredc|Carolmooredc]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc|Talkie-Talkie]])'''</small> 12:00, 14 December 2015 (UTC) |
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::I agree with you and I hope that Arbcom reinstate you as soon as possible. You should never have been banned! :( [[Special:Contributions/91.125.81.13|91.125.81.13]] ([[User talk:91.125.81.13|talk]]) 12:14, 26 July 2017 (UTC) |
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Hi Carol. <b><font color ="#0000cc">''North8000''</font></b> ([[User talk:North8000#top|talk]]) 10:49, 23 May 2017 (UTC) |
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I was just trying to make light of a rather depressing group. Humor seems to have solved things in my life lately lol. I will gladly change it. Cheers! [[User:Wikifan12345|Wikifan12345]] ([[User talk:Wikifan12345|talk]]) 05:41, 5 February 2009 (UTC) |
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Ping. How about putting an unblock request in your diary for sometime this year? --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|talk]]) 10:13, 6 April 2019 (UTC) |
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== Chas Freeman == |
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:Thanks for undoing redirect. I'm really busy on a deadline for a bunch of things, plus I have become more overtly politically active than I was during wiki editing years, so between the two don't need the distraction and temptation of editing, plus any resultant controversies! ha ha :-) <small>'''[[User:Carolmooredc|Carolmooredc]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc|Talkie-Talkie]])'''</small> 14:21, 6 April 2019 (UTC) |
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Nice rewrite. It flows better than the old version did, and includes the recent controversy.--[[User:SarekOfVulcan|SarekOfVulcan]] ([[User talk:SarekOfVulcan|talk]]) 17:49, 25 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== Shooting of Al Hallaq == |
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:Practice makes perfect :-) [[User:Carolmooredc|CarolMooreDC]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc#top|talk]]) 18:00, 25 February 2009 (UTC) |
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<br />I would like to join Sarek in thanking you for your good work on the Charles W. Freeman article. |
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<br />[[User:Dean Armond|Dean Armond]] ([[User talk:Dean Armond|talk]]) 17:36, 26 February 2009 (UTC) |
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I got your contact from a comment you made back in 2008 about the organized pro Israeli groups that are working to suppress any information about the atrocities that Israel commit on a daily basis in Palestine. The autistic Palestinian man who was murdered in Jerusalem more than a month ago is being victimized again by the pro Israel editors by suppressing any information related to the incident no matter how neutral and reliable it is. Please see the article and the talking point at [[Shooting of Eyad al-Hallaq]]. I can't edit the article because it's subject to the 500/30 rule but you may be able to. Thank you. |
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:Sorry I got kicked off six years ago for being politically INcorrect - i.e., snarky while being female. <small>'''[[User:Carolmooredc|Carolmooredc]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc|Talkie-Talkie]])'''</small> 08:26, 1 July 2020 (UTC) |
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I won't try to get back on wikipedia again as a full-service editor again for many reasons. But I come across SO MANY articles that are outdated now a days and do need Updating, it would be nice to have the Wiki-legal right to at least put a "this page needs updating" banner on top. Like this one. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prompt_Global_Strike Prompt Global Strike] Then leave it up to fate if anyone bothers. <small>'''[[User:Carolmooredc|Carolmooredc]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc|Talkie-Talkie]])'''</small> 16:48, 6 November 2020 (UTC) |
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:Carol, there's no such distinction available. Why not just ask to ask to come back fully and take a mellow pill and have some fun here with us? :-) Sincerely, <b style="color: #0000cc;">''North8000''</b> ([[User talk:North8000#top|talk]]) 02:34, 7 November 2020 (UTC) |
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::Can't come back cause too much of own writing to do and if I came back I'd be tempted to do a little editing and then the problems would inevitably start with outraged male editors because of whatever excuse they got... Not getting any younger so gotta work on my own stuff, now that I'm retired with enough time and money to do it. Unless Biden and the bureaucrats figure out how to loot us oldsters. <small>'''[[User:Carolmooredc|Carolmooredc]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc|Talkie-Talkie]])'''</small> 02:34, 8 November 2020 (UTC) |
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:::Cool! <b style="color: #0000cc;">''North8000''</b> ([[User talk:North8000#top|talk]]) 02:50, 8 November 2020 (UTC) |
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:Too bad they don't have a thumbnail so you'll know which cover it is. Anyway there's probably more recent one than what I uploaded. The was Kohrs most influential book. I guess i can put it on commons and let whoever might be editing put it up there. <small>'''[[User:Carolmooredc|Carolmooredc]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc|Talkie-Talkie]])'''</small> 14:04, 30 January 2023 (UTC) |
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Last of the Mohicans
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The Working Man's Barnstar |
For being the "Last of the Mohicans"--one of the few women who has not been driven off the Gender Gap Task Force or the GGTF ArbCom case. |
Hi, Carolmooredc. I have seen this rather amusing barnstar floating around and cannot think of anyone who deserves it more than you do. You have continued to Assume Good Faith, and have patiently answered even the most hostile statements, long after anyone else would have lost patience and concluded that they were being trolled. Just for the record, this is no longer a gender-specific barnstar, but the irony of the original version is just too perfect. Regards, —Neotarf (talk) 13:50, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. I actually looked up WP:NOTSUICIDE and I don't get it. As I asked at talk "Does it mean we can kick obvious trolls butts? Or that we should quit rather than commit suicide?" Carolmooredc (Talkie-Talkie) 13:56, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
- Ha, ha, enjoy. —Neotarf (talk) 15:01, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
Feminists Engage Wikipedia
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The Feminists Engage Wikipedia Award! |
If Adrianne Wadewitz were here, she'd give you this award for all you have done! Djembayz (talk) 23:28, 10 November 2014 (UTC) |
- Back at ya! But you know my definition of feminist: any woman who doesn't take any bull in any part of her life. So that's most of 3.6 billion women on the planet :-) Carolmooredc (Talkie-Talkie) 23:55, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
Kittens and puppies for helpful and friendly editors
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Don't have energy to post separately. These are for those who have seen through the nonsense of the last six months, whether or not you have yet chosen to speak out.
Also feel free to delete any of those negative/nasty/harassing comments I always get if anyone leaves them here, since I probably won't be allowed to.
Your return is eagerly awaited !!!!
Loved the kittens !!! Lots of people eagerly await your return. IMO, you are getting the rough treatment because they were powerless to protect you from those out to harass you. So, they cover their own weakness in this way. What other option do they have ? In a way, I approve that you should leave, rather than suffer for contributing in a community which failed you with its inability to stop the harassers. Best.OrangesRyellow (talk) 15:24, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
- Being a glass half-filled optimist, I see reform as inevitable, even if I retire to my jacuzzi and my polo matches. Right...
Carolmooredc (Talkie-Talkie) 15:27, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
- Reform is inevitable. It is just a question of how many people must suffer, and be scapegoated/sacrificed like you, before the community comes to its senses.OrangesRyellow (talk) 15:50, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
- Hmmm, gives me yet another idea. A quickie video like on Talking Dead with the names of "this decades departed" scrolling by to dirge music with faded death masks as background. Of course, I'm sure there were a few who really did deserve it. I even supported one myself once! Carolmooredc (Talkie-Talkie) 16:23, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Special Barnstar |
Please accept this barnstar in recognition of your attempts to change the current culture of Wikipedia. I hope you return with a renewed passion for the project and keep your sense of humour. In the meantime, do take a look at other open knowledge projects, there are plenty that deliver excellent worthwhile outcomes, not only encyclopaedias. Commons, for example, has far less self-feeding dramah and far fewer wikilawyers. Fæ (talk) 17:22, 28 November 2014 (UTC) |
Thanks
Thank you for the adorable kittens! I may have a dog now but I grew up a cat person and I still love them.
I wish things had worked out differently. I hope to see you back as soon as possible. Until then, may your days be filled with relaxation, happiness, and kittens. Ca2james (talk) 17:23, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
- Guess Wikipedia needs a wikilove puppy lobby! Carolmooredc (Talkie-Talkie) 22:49, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
A pie for you!
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Many thanks for the adorable kitten you delivered to my talk page. I have used it as an ingredient in this delicious hot meat pie; please have a slice and take a moment to savour the taste and enjoy simpler pleasures. (Or, if vegetarian pies are preferred, you could leave this one for meat-eating friends.) I hope to see you back on Wikipedia sooner rather than later. Gender equality here needs all the help it can get - not to mention civility, neutrality, and other oft-ignored principles. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:54, 28 November 2014 (UTC) |
- Mucho gracias, senor naughty! Carolmooredc (Talkie-Talkie) 22:48, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
- One more. I am so sorry, Carol. Best wishes to you. --GRuban (talk) 01:16, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
Kitten
Thank you for the kitten, which I will move to my user page. If you mean that Wikipedia was dragging you in and that the ArbCom case is letting you try something else in your retirement, so be it. But if you choose to come back after your time is served, you won't be a septuagenarian, but still a sexagenarian. I can do the arithmetic as well as you can, except that I don't have to do the arithmetic, because I'm a '48er also. I'm not that far from you either in time or in space (only, evidently, in gender). My sympathies or something.
I suppose that, as a libertarian, you have very mixed feelings about the late Mr. Barry. What ward are you in? Robert McClenon (talk) 02:48, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
- Onward and upward and all that. I'm in ward 5. Met Barry in 1988 and he was definitely a charismatic figure. Carolmooredc (Talkie-Talkie) 04:44, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
Kitten (2)
I will do my best. Enjoy your Wikibreak. --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 15:31, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
Good luck
Good luck Carol. I entirely agree with Tarc's remark. I look forward to your return. -- C1cada (talk) 23:25, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
- Good luck Carol! I just saw the news of your ban, and find that rather unfortunate. We need more people voicing in a radical way critiques of gender equality on Wikipedia, and its a real shame that it came back to bite you. I didn't follow the conversation, but hope it doesn't discourage you from continuing in some capacity in shaping the Wikimedia community to better recognize harassment in the community. Sadads (talk) 19:52, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
- Will just drop here, for anyone interested, that Slate published an article today noting the incredible results of the arbitration, very negative piece. [1]--Milowent • hasspoken 20:01, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
- Interesting to see a summary from an external world view. I have added the link to Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard#Wikipedia:Arbitration.2FRequests.2FCase.2FInteractions_at_GGTF_closed. --Fæ (talk) 20:36, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
- Hm, that's quite a solid source for an entry at list of Wikipedia controversies. Tarc (talk) 21:02, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
- FYI, I kept providing this link to editors and Arbitrators during Arbitration to show just how obsessed the media is with Wikipedia's gendergap, but they didn't believe me: Wikipedia gender gap-related Media hits. (Note: I only made the Slate-quoted comment after Arbcom voted to ban me.) Carolmooredc (Talkie-Talkie) 02:12, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
You haven't been forgotten
This member of WP:RETENTION, hopes you'll decide to return & Arbcom will reinstate you. GoodDay (talk) 20:04, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
- Still years behind on my own projects, so not going to be tempted to return for a while. Plus I'd rather wait til Mediation program significantly beefed up, with paid Mediators if necessary, so I don't waste time in stupid arguments. Hopefully new arbitrators more savvy on wide variety of GGTF-type issues. Carolmooredc (Talkie-Talkie) 12:00, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
- I agree with you and I hope that Arbcom reinstate you as soon as possible. You should never have been banned! :( 91.125.81.13 (talk) 12:14, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi Carol. North8000 (talk) 10:49, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Ping. How about putting an unblock request in your diary for sometime this year? --Fæ (talk) 10:13, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for undoing redirect. I'm really busy on a deadline for a bunch of things, plus I have become more overtly politically active than I was during wiki editing years, so between the two don't need the distraction and temptation of editing, plus any resultant controversies! ha ha :-) Carolmooredc (Talkie-Talkie) 14:21, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
Shooting of Al Hallaq
I got your contact from a comment you made back in 2008 about the organized pro Israeli groups that are working to suppress any information about the atrocities that Israel commit on a daily basis in Palestine. The autistic Palestinian man who was murdered in Jerusalem more than a month ago is being victimized again by the pro Israel editors by suppressing any information related to the incident no matter how neutral and reliable it is. Please see the article and the talking point at Shooting of Eyad al-Hallaq. I can't edit the article because it's subject to the 500/30 rule but you may be able to. Thank you.
- Sorry I got kicked off six years ago for being politically INcorrect - i.e., snarky while being female. Carolmooredc (Talkie-Talkie) 08:26, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
Limited editing rights
I won't try to get back on wikipedia again as a full-service editor again for many reasons. But I come across SO MANY articles that are outdated now a days and do need Updating, it would be nice to have the Wiki-legal right to at least put a "this page needs updating" banner on top. Like this one. Prompt Global Strike Then leave it up to fate if anyone bothers. Carolmooredc (Talkie-Talkie) 16:48, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- Carol, there's no such distinction available. Why not just ask to ask to come back fully and take a mellow pill and have some fun here with us? :-) Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 02:34, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
- Can't come back cause too much of own writing to do and if I came back I'd be tempted to do a little editing and then the problems would inevitably start with outraged male editors because of whatever excuse they got... Not getting any younger so gotta work on my own stuff, now that I'm retired with enough time and money to do it. Unless Biden and the bureaucrats figure out how to loot us oldsters. Carolmooredc (Talkie-Talkie) 02:34, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
- Cool! North8000 (talk) 02:50, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
- Can't come back cause too much of own writing to do and if I came back I'd be tempted to do a little editing and then the problems would inevitably start with outraged male editors because of whatever excuse they got... Not getting any younger so gotta work on my own stuff, now that I'm retired with enough time and money to do it. Unless Biden and the bureaucrats figure out how to loot us oldsters. Carolmooredc (Talkie-Talkie) 02:34, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
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- Too bad they don't have a thumbnail so you'll know which cover it is. Anyway there's probably more recent one than what I uploaded. The was Kohrs most influential book. I guess i can put it on commons and let whoever might be editing put it up there. Carolmooredc (Talkie-Talkie) 14:04, 30 January 2023 (UTC)