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Sincerely yours,

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Revision as of 09:09, 15 July 2004

First archived talk at User talk:Arpingstone/ArchiveMar3-2003
Second archived talk at User talk:Arpingstone/ArchiveJul10-2003
Third archived talk at User talk:Arpingstone/ArchiveFeb20-2004
Fourth archived talk at User talk:Arpingstone/ArchiveJune15-2004


re: Boeing 737

Hello, thanks for your gentle comment. It was just natural to get rid of that picture, given its dubious © status and the residual advertisement graphics. Had I checked the talk page, I might have even done what you suggested there (and what the user who had included all those images in the first place has done now). Cheers, Lupo 08:31, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Thanks again!

Dear Arp: What would I do without you?? Sam told me recently he enjoys articles more with photos, and it made me realize how stale they look without pictures, specially airline ones. Im very picky when it comes down to choosing which photos to ask for rights to inclusion here, I like ours to show the airlines name and logo clearly so people can see what their livery looks like.

That said, you came through again! The next rights I got granted, although I have many, many rights granted, but the next ones are for the Dominicana de Aviacion, Aeromexico and Aeroperu articles. I will send them to you ASAP and dont worry, I know youre a busy man so Im not in a hurry:)

Thanks from the bottom of my heart and God bless you!

Sincerely yours, your friend , Antonio Gotta see the London Underground in my lifetime Martin (ps: I discovered why I cant upload photos from one site of the net to another: low memory in my ancient (1999) model..lol)

Picture size

Hi, I agree that 300px is at the "outer limits" ;-) for thumbnails; so far, I just tried to keep the images at their original size. But, I will try to remember reducing the thumbnails to 250px in the future, which ought to do just as well. For those I already did, feel free to fix them. BTW, thanks for uploading so many great images in the first place! --Magnus Manske 22:07, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Thanks again!!

Dear Arp: Hi! Thanks again for the photos. Once again you come through! Now, Ive been noticing you havent been answering my messages. I hope youre not mad at me!

I know that you must have a long list of pictures to be uploaded, let me know if you need a breather. But youre one of my favorite persons to work with aat wikipedia. I have the next batch of airliners ready to be sent, let me know if you want them.

Thanks and God bless you!

Sincerely yours, Antonio Pink Cat Martin

Dear Adrian: Thanks for uploading the new photos! Its good to hear everythings good at home! As far as here, my mother is getting tested for Cancer again. If no bad news comes before the weekend I will be busy pursuing my other hobby besides wikipedia, planes and boxing: autographs. Muhammad Ali, Celine Dion, Prince, Evander Holyfield and Ali's daughter Laila, who is making quite a name for herself as a boxer too, are going to be in town Saturday at a charity event and God willing that mom comes out ok, Im planning to be there.

Well, soon I will send you a new batch, specifically a Midwest Airlines photo that was supposed to be sent with the last batch but because of a small misunderstanding I had with the airliners.net people (I clicked on the wrong photo ID and thought they'd changed the photo I had permission for was changed into one of a United Airlines plane) I wasnt able to send it. Thats clarified now, so that one will be sent to you soon, as well as one of Skyservice and NCA.

Ive been asking for photos to include on articles Ive written about airlines, being specially good to those who have sent me plane models for free but also to hispanic airlines. Monarch was excellent , they sent me one, they were real nice. So was NCA, they, British Airways and Palmair each sent me two plane models for free. I see it as a favor back to them. But in BA's case I already saw they have photos at their article anyways...I also have Fina Air, Fine Air, Cubana de Aviacion and other airline photos coming up pretty soon.

Well keep mom in your rayers. Thanks angain and God bless you! Idf I were to write an article about you what can I say it would be very POV because youre an excellent friend and wonderful man.

Sincerely yours, your friend, Antonio Wikijunkie Martin

Pic link not working

Hi Adrian. The Opera House pic at Sydney is not viewable in the smaller size but ok expanded. Don't know how to fix, so.......Ta. Cheers. Moriori 02:12, Mar 28, 2004 (UTC)


I've started a new WikiProject: WikiProject Trains. I'm inviting all Wikipedians who are interested in trains and railways to take a look and decide if they want to get this going. Thanks, —Morven 23:32, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hi! I took your great photos of Victor and Vulcan bombers into Polish Wikipedia. Aren't both of your Victor photos the same machine? (of 1961?) Wouldn't it be Victor B.2 variant? As for Vulcan: wouldn't your photo be Vulcan B.1 ? Thanks. Pibwl 18:50, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)

After searching the Net for pics for the last several days, I'm quite convinced they are the mentioned variants. But do you remember, if these towo Victors are the same plane? (it would make the things easier). Thanks for sharing such exclusive photos. Pibwl 22:51, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)

About Yate article--struck close to home, eh? ;-) I find that it's usually easier to just change text than it is to try to get someone else to change it to match your ideas (unless I'm being paid as a tech writer mentor, which I sometimes am, but even so--I think people can learn a lot from seeing their writing edited). The current Yate edit could be even more NPOV and downplay the surveys even more. Coincidentally, while I was following some other dubious edits, I found this--check the history for original version and very POV editor. I just went in and changed the article (what there was of it to salvage). It's still pretty trivial info but probably accurate and probably NPOV. 'Course, you've been around Wikipedia much longer than I have. I don't think Dash was really throwing down the gauntlet and he might or might not get NPOV and encyclopedic writing, but he did make a lot of edits trying to address some of your concerns, and maybe he benefited/would benefit from seeing stuff edited as well. So I'm all for more/more interesting info on Yate. Imagine--they have a McDonald's! Do they have a Starbucks, too? (trying to keep a straight face...) Elf | Talk 20:17, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)


Dear Adrian: Hey! Thanks for the message! As far as renaming the List of boxers to List of male boxers and then making a List of female boxers, what do you think?

I cant wait til you upload the new photos I sent you, the articles will look great with your pages, as always! You always do a great job, mucho kudos to you!

Meanwhile check out my latest, Nicole Powell. The girl's won so many awards that I thought Id would take me one year to finish the page so I sorta condensed the info a little..lol and check out my latest progress on my ongoing work Boxing in the 1930s, let me know what you think!

Thanks, and God bless you!

Sincerely yours, your friend, Antonio Wikipedia Rodman Martin

Hey Arp: You got mail!! hehehe! Oh by the way, Im a Puerto Rican living in Phoenix, Arizona....13 years here, and let me tell you, Phoenix is more and more Mexican than American well, which fits me well, I like being in contact with my Hispanic culture but for that reason I nicknamed myself the Puerto-Mexi a long time ago..LOL

Thanks and God bless you!

Sincerely yours, Antonio Puerto-Mexi Martin

Hey Adrian: Thanks again1 Once again, excellent job! I believe the next photos will be destined for the Palmair, Air ALM and Atlas Air Cargo articles..LOL Im only nice to the airlines that have sent me free plastic plane models in that way..lol They send me free plane models, you and I give then free promotion through article and photo here..LOL. (although the promotion term can be dubious as I list accidents, bad periods and everything related to the airline!) hehehe! gotta be NPOV here..lol!)

Ok anyways, thank you and God bless you1 Once again, great work!!

Sincerely yours, your friend, Antonio Mr. Nice Guy Martin [[User:AntonioMartin|

Regarding the EK A340 pic

The pic was mainly for the Emirates article, to show the "flagship" of their current fleet. WhisperToMe 08:32, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Duplicate pics

Arp - there's no need to upload both 750px and 250px images. If you upload a 750px image, you can auto-resize it on the article: [[image:my_image.jpg|200px|My Image]] - UtherSRG 14:03, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I'm well aware that the new syntax self-generates a thumbnail but my big and little pics are only for taxoboxes. I don't know how to do a taxobox in the new syntax so rather than do nothing I use the old syntax. It still works fine, I've just done Coscoroba Swan and Emperor Goose that way. If you know how to do a taxobox in the new code, please apply it to, say, Emperor Swan then I can copy your method. Best Wishes, Adrian,
Adrian Pingstone 14:13, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I've modified both the goose and swan. :) - UtherSRG
Many thanks, I very much appreciate your help, taxoboxes will be loads easier to illustrate from now on!
Adrian Pingstone 14:23, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Muy agradecido

Hey Adrian! Once again thank you for your hard work putting the photos I asked permission for. Your hard work is very appreciated, and as they say in Spanish, Im muy agradecido that is, very thankful.

Thank you and God bless you!

Sincerely yours, your friend Antonio The Vibe Martin

More Aircraft Images

Hi Adrian, how you doing? I hope you won't be too upset but I rm'd the image you added to Aviation History, as I felt it added nothing useful to the article, being neither a historically significant type, nor a specific aircraft that was of historical interest. An image may well help to improve this page, since there is a lot of text there, but this one, I felt, wasn't it - maybe a pic of something more relevant would be better? Also, I'm a bit unsure what the benefit of the 737 pic on the main Aviation page is, though for now I've left it there. While not irrelevant, it also doesn't really add anything to the article, since I cannot imagine anyone who has heard of aviation not knowing what an aeroplane looks like! I feel (as you know) that we should guard against creeping page bloat, and stay focused on making articles tight and relevant, though I would like to hear your (and others') views on this. Graham 23:12, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)


Beech King Air

We have a picture of a Beech King Air 100 available at [1]. I listed Beech King Air on the requested articles page, but I couldn't find any sources for the aircraft family, neither for the 100 model, so I couldn't sit down to write the article since I'm unfamiliarized with the subject. Raytheon Aircraft has information about the 350 [2], the B200 [3], and the C90B [4] but no information about the 100. Any help would be appreciated. :-)

As always, thanks for all the contributions that you make to the project,

Michael | Talk 05:31, Apr 21, 2004 (UTC)

images

Adrian, can you have a look at the image formats Nicobar Pigeon and Green Imperial Pigeon, in both the current revision by UtherSRG and the previous one by me. There is relevant comment on Uther's talk page too. Since they're your pics, you might wish to express a view. jim

I looked at the Tree of life talk page, and the decision to reduce the standard picture size down from 250px doesn't seem to be in there, although you suggest that 200-250 px is acceptable. On the project page, the recommendation seems to be yours. I can live without the mag glass, but my view is that the images should go back to the previous 250, and, if we are not using the mag, to revert to the media: format to make it clear that there is a larger image.

However, I don't want to start an edit war just yet, so I want to consult Bigiron and Tannin as the other main pic contributors. Jim

Thanks!

Dear Adrian: Once again, you come through! Im gonna start calling you John Paxson! The player who always comes through when most needed! Thanks for everything, and God bless you!

Sincerely yours, your friend, Antonio Basketball Brain Martin

One more time!!!

Dear Adrian: I'd feel like a goose if I didnt thank you again for helping me with the photos of the new airliners before going on to my next article of today. You are making the wikipedia brighter every day both in intellectually and with your colorful photos.

By the way, Im into Fashion as well, so my little part of Steven Cojocaru in my mind says great choice with that blue shirt on your photo! You really hit it on target. I believe that that type of blue will be the red of the 2000s when it comes to dressing. Nice choice!

The next batch of photos will be arriving about next sunday, including one for the Cubana de Aviacion article and a couple others.

Thank you, and God bless you!

Sincerely yours, Antonio Fashion Police Martin

Photo

Hello Arpingstone I'm a french wikipedian (fr:Utilisateur:Dav 59), I do the fr:Eurofighter 2000 and I see the photo

File:Euro.typhoon.680pix.jpg

. Can I use this photo wihtout ask at Jo Mitchell?(just put the source of the photo) Sorry for my english, I'm verry bad.

(can you put your answer in my talk page fr:Discussion Utilisateur:Dav 59 thanks) 82.124.133.59 10:44, 30 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Your french is very good. Thanks I'm coping the photo. Dav 59

Tony

I don't know - the page is blanked, not deleted, but someone has been systematically vandalising it - perhaps he's had enough. Jim

Dear Lord of the Pictures, can you get, or tell me where to, something for Lucius Cornelius Sulla? Cheers, MvHG 13:59, 10 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

  • Dear Adrian, thanks for your help. I thought you might know some special place where we could download free use images. By the way, what did you mean by stating in the picture its copyright? What about pictures I did myself? Is the copyright mine or Wikipedia's? Cheers, MvHG 14:38, 11 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks a lot! I have somethings to write in the pictures i uploaded!! All the best, MvHG 07:26, 13 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]


Featured picture nom

I saw your Image:Peacock.displaying.800pix.jpg picture, and I thought it was so good I listed it on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. →Raul654 17:21, May 13, 2004 (UTC)

Hi Adrian. Just wondered whether there was some reason for not moving these to ATR 42 and ATR 72 (since you're right, those should be the titles). --ALargeElk 14:59, 14 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

autothumbs etc.

I've been listing your old thumbnails and small picture versions on images for deletion. (Currently on the May 15 section.) They're mostly orphans; the ones that aren't, I've been orphaning. You have an impressive array of pictures you've taken. This will take me... a while. Grendelkhan 05:40, 2004 May 16 (UTC)

Coot pic

Hi Adrian - one of the pics at Eurasian Coot appears to have died and needs re-uploading; I think it is one of yours - MPF 13:41, 17 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]


Can I use these pics on WP?

This is the copyright notice for a site I want to use as a picture source, [5]:
"All the pictures on this site were taken by Jo Mitchell (unless otherwise stated) and may be used for legitimate and legal purposes provided credit is given. It would be appreciated if you email Jo to request permission for use of images. Most images are available as high-resolution scans (up to 4000dpi) for use in print and screen media - please do not hesitate to ask for further details. Copyright is retained at all times by Jo Mitchell. Thanks"
Can I use these pics (if I check with Jo Mitchell first) and what would be the copyright notice I should use on the Image Description Page? Thanks for any help,
Adrian Pingstone 18:51, 13 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Goodness whether "legitimate and legal purposes" is, formally speaking, a restriction incompatible with the GFDL, but it does sounds like Jo would respond favourably if you explicitly asked for a GFDL licence (for the low-res versions) via email. Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 19:17, 13 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]
There are a couple of pre-written permission-asking templates at Wikipedia:Boilerplate request for permission -- they cover most of the important points. Modify as needed for your purposes. Catherine - talk 01:56, 15 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Adrian. I moved this from the pump in case you hadn't seen it yet. Angela. 19:50, May 17, 2004 (UTC)

thank you for the nicely done Las Vegas photo.

thank you for the nicely done Las Vegas photo. Xah Lee P0lyglut 02:34, 2004 May 19 (UTC)


Hey Arp: Just wanted to introduce you to my dad, who is a new contributor here. He goes by the name Tony. You and him will be great friends.

Oh by the way the new, Iran Air photo you put there is my favorite airline photo of all time! Not only does it show the airline's name and logo perfectly, but it gives me the impression its about to hit that house! I got the chills! I loved it!

Well, say hi to dad. Thanks and God bless you!

Sincerely yours, Antonio Dark Wings Martin


I was just thinking, it would be nice if you could find a picture of Frank Whittle to go in the article. I wouldent have a clue where to find one but I thought you might be able to. Cheers. G-Man 21:24, 27 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Motorway

Hi there,

Your tag lines on your edits to the Motorway article last month were not sufficient. You made other minor edits besides those described. One of your edits had an error which was not detected until today - changing the hard shoulder lane demarkation to "white line line". Doubly wrong, as the original description, a dashed yellow line, is correct for Ireland. The article is now corrected with both situations mentioned. Please be more careful in your edits. In this case, simply mentioning "minor edits" (plural) in the tagline would most likely have gained another's or my own attention.

Thank you, Zoney 23:24, 30 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

I hope Adrian won't mind me springing to his defence on his talk page, but this seems a bit harsh. Adrian is a fine contributor and this is a very minor transgression. There are others who are far worse when it comes to annotating their edits appropriately. It's not as if the annotation is even compulsory! I too find it a bit irritating when people mark their edits as minor when it clearly isn't, but since the guidelines are widely interpreted, we just have to live with it. Personally, I generally never mark mine as minor unless its just a typo fix, etc, but others impose their own rules. I think you might want to wait awhile until you build up more experience before criticising Adrian or others on this sort of level, it only tends to piss people off rather than getting them to conform to your strict standards which are not shared by all. Since you appear to have been here only since April, I would counsel restraint since Adrian has been around significantly longer and is a very reliable contributor. Don't forget we are all here voluntarily, and if it's not fun, we won't bother. Being shouted at by newbie users in general counts as "not fun" in my book. Graham 08:10, 31 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]
Zoney, thank you for your comments on the Motorway article. It was simply an error on my part to mark the changes as minor. I've been on Wikipedia every day (except holidays) since January 2003 so I know the "rules" even better than you do. Nevertheless I do make mistakes occasionally. It would have been much simpler if you had just made the corrections and saved me the nuisance of typing this. If I was a newbie then your notes would have been useful but I'm not, I'm very experienced on WP.
Graham, your defence of my innocent error is very much appreciated, thanks for noticing and spending the time writing to me. I would never mark such changes as MINOR and have no idea why I did so.
Best Wishes to you both - Adrian Pingstone 08:40, 31 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I know, I was just kind of irritated that the error had remained for a whole month! I would have fixed it had I noticed it, but the comments obviously passed by my watchlist. I only noticed it when another user fixed it! Hence my (perhaps overboard!) complaint! Not to worry! (On the plus side, the above is probably as close as I get to a flame!)
As regards usefulness, yeah, some contemplation would have probably persuaded me not to bother. (At this stage, I wouldn't like to have every minor error in my edits alerted to me either!) Sorry to take up your time!
Zoney 11:03, 31 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Mr. Arpingstone: Hi! I would like to thank you for your welcome message on my talk page. It was a nice gesture of you to welcome me.

My son, Antonio has talked so much to me about you and the whole of wikipedia that I decided to give it a try. I am convinced that here, I am with the best of the best. It is an honor to share space with people such as my son and you.

I was in the United States Marine Corps and I went to the Vietnam War. However, if you look at my user page, I found multiple disparities while in the Marines. We were serving the same country, but I felt as if the minorities in my company (Hispanics and Blacks) were a world apart from the rest.

My main concern here are the biographies of Puerto Rican legends who may otherwise be not known to others. Those who think all Puerto Ricans want to be American citizens should look at the biographies I have written so far. Many of them were patriotic and pro independence.

I have seen several of your photos as well as the photo jobs you have done for my son. My son is always delighted with your work, and I have to say that you are a very talented photographer. My son was so impressed with the Iran Air photo in particular, that he even told me it was the best airplane photo by far he had ever seen.

Well, Mr. Arpingstone, I hope that we can collaborate on future articles. Anything you want to add to my articles, feel free to do so. Thank you very much for your greeting.

Best regards, Marine 69-71


Bird ID question

Hi Adrian, I wanted to ask you advice on a duck I've photographed. I thought it was a female Red-crested Pochard, but the male it was with doesn't look quite like your picture or examples I've found in books. Mine seems less crested, although everything else looks OK. Is the size of the red crest variable? Do you think it is the real thing or is it a hybrid? Thanks for any help -- sannse (talk) 19:29, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, that's great. I feared mine just wasn't crested enough :) I'll add the female to the article. Regards -- sannse (talk) 20:43, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)


ToL and Categories

Please weigh in: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Tree_of_Life#MW_1.3_categories

Wildfowl

Adrian, I've done Black-billed Whistling Duck, if you have a pic. Incidentally, this page is now 45k Jim

Adrian, I've done the other two articles for which there were available images, Ashy-headed Goose and Ruddy-headed Goose, Jim

If you upload any other wildfowl images you have and put media links to them in my sandbox, I'll do the rest of the articles to go with them. Jim

Paris pics

Bonjour Adrian. Just saw your pics on the Eiffel Tower page. Absolutely fabulous views. I also noticed you seem to be an avid "French fan". I'd like to discuss use of your pictures of France on a website I have. I don't know what your policy is on this, but I'd like to know... I've just started to get to know Wiki... is there anyway to have personal contact via email?

Thanks, Samk (living just outside of Paris)

Samk, 'allo! I love Paris very much even though I've had just two weeks there (in two separate one week holidays). However, I worked for British Aerospace in Bristol for many years and had to go to meetings in Toulouse, so I've been to Toulouse 36 times! (but never, stupidly, took any photos). Feel free to use any of my photos anyhow you like, they are all public domain and so no need to ask my permission, just let me know your web site address. Have a look at:
France Geography Notre Dame
Eiffel Tower Paris Seine Pere Lachaise Louvre Montparnasse Tower Statue of Liberty Performance art
Moulin Rouge Tourism Baron Haussmann Tower
Edith Piaf Axe historique Diana Pyramid
Bouches-du-Rhone
Sorry, I'm too busy for e-mail contact so make any comments or requests via WP, please. I'll know you've written because Wikipedians can have something called a Watchlist which tells them when a watched article (or talk page) has been edited. Bon chance avec votre web-site, Adrian - Adrian Pingstone 17:01, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

National Gallery

Hi. Just a quick note about my National Gallery photograph that's currently on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. I'm not sure what you meant by "clearly leaning" - the columns in the photograph are vertical and the steps in the foreground are horizontal. The only reason that the roof appears to be sloping is due to perspective because I took the photograph from left-of-centre, so that I could include the Trafalgar Square fountain... but that's not something that I would have thought could be fixed by rotating the image. - MykReeve 17:57, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Hi, sorry to speak adversely of your otherwise excellent photo but I'll show you what I mean. I've measured the leftmost column in Photoshop, it's about 2 degrees leaning and the rightmost column about 0.5 degrees. Sounds trivial I know but, to me, it shows. So I've tried rotating the pic by 1.2 degrees counterclockwise and here's the result:
Original pic


File:Nat-gall-lond-tr-sq.rotate.jpg
Rotated pic


File:Nat-gall-lond-tr-sq.rotate-lines.jpg
Annotated rotated pic


GIMPed pic (perspective corrected, hopefully)


You may well not agree, but to me the left pic is more or less as the eye would see the building and the unrotated pic on the right is leaning to the right. Sorry I can't change my mind on this and support the pic, Best Wishes, Adrian - Adrian Pingstone 21:47, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I certainly don't mind the criticism... I see what you mean now. I think the apparent rotation is due to the fact that I had tilted the camera upwards, meaning that the building can never be entirely vertical - for example, the columns at the right hand side of the image tilt up and to the left more in the rotated image. I agree that the central section of the gallery looks more upright in the rotated image, but in the unrotated image, the steps are horizontal - which means that the part of the building in the centre of the picture is genuinely vertical.
I've created a little image to illustrate this - Media:Persp-ng.png - the left hand image has the vertical part of the "columns" in the middle of the image (but not at the centre of the set of "columns"), the right hand image has been rotated so that the vertical part of the box is to the left of centre (but is at the centre of the set of "columns"). The "columns" of the right hand image look better - but any other parts of the image would be excessively rotated. I guess neither version is ideal. - MykReeve 23:39, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)
OK, I follow you. Thanks for the perspective pics, they are interesting. I guess full correction would need a Photoshop or Elements or Paint Shop Pro expert which I certainly am not! I love the picture by the way, and I've commented on it only because it's on the Featured Picture Candidates page. Best Wishes, Adrian.
Adrian Pingstone 07:37, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)
I think the problem with the rotated pic is that the water isn't level... see the red lines in the bottom picture. For me, wonky water makes the rotated pic worse than the origianal. Lupin 10:45, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Sorry to butt in, but I would apply perspective distortion on the rotated image. I.E. to go from ">" to "=" by applying "<". Hope that makes sense! Don't know about Photoshop, but this is available in PSP. Either do all that, or stick with the rotated image, which has perspective distortion, diminishing to the right. The vertical pillars and non-horizontal water is, I would imagine, more accurate. Zoney 11:02, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
OK, I've had a go at this with the GIMP. What do you think? Lupin 23:10, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Actually, that's really rather good. Shall we use that, instead? Also, I think it'd be best to move this discussion to Image talk:Nat-gall-lond-tr-sq.jpg rather than keep it on Adrian's talk page... I've copied the text there. James F. (talk) 23:26, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

License

Hi, when you'll be back from vacation, could you tell me the license of the picture Image:Michelangelo.pieta.350pix.jpg. We use it on french wikipedia so I'd like to know if it is GFDL or public domain. Thanks in advance. Tipiac 21:52, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Barnstar

Hey Adrian: Just to let you know I awarded you a Barnstar on your user page, for your hard and meritorius work. I hope you like it. Thanks and God bless you!

Sincerely yours,

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