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DYK for Petros Lantzas

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Byzantine Greeks

Interesting the latest developments to this article, some users would like to change the name to Byzantines claiming that there is no connection to Greeks and placing POV tags. The same users have been reverted lately various times due to POV pushing. Thanks for your latest additions though. Othon I (talk) 18:07, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Newsinger97

A triviality: Can you have a look at the EOKA article. You cited Newsinger97, maybe it was a spelling mistake for Newsinger95. Or did you try to cite page 97 of Newsinger's book? Thanks Cinadon36 (talk) 09:31, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'll re-check the pages. Thanks for the notice.Alexikoua (talk) 16:59, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It's about the page, pages 95&97 are cited in the specific section from this work.Alexikoua (talk) 21:30, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Seems there are no objections to your latest suggestion on EOKA. Would you like to insert your comment and proceed with the next phase? Cheers. Cinadon36 (talk) 15:46, 25 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! IMO this sentence of yours "Far from moderates emerging with whom Britain could do a deal" needs revisiting. Also, please have a look at my latest proposal on the talk page. Anticipating your comments, additions, and reshaping. No rush though! Cheers. Cinadon36 (talk) 06:43, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi - this is just a friendly reminder. (New proposal: === From August 1958 to the Zurich and London Agreements === )Cinadon36 (talk) 22:10, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Pavlos Kouroupis

Hello, I completed a review at Template:Did you know nominations/Pavlos Kouroupis, and noted one question. Please respond there if you're able to help. I look forward to seeing this nomination on the main page. Thanks! Flibirigit (talk) 04:44, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the "massive" changes to Kavalliotis entry, they are not massive, just the correction of some inconstancies: 1. As the main text of the entry shows, he is not born in Kavalla but in Moschopolis; 2. At his time, ethnic identity was irrelevant, he was an Orthodox educated and acculturated in Greek/Romaios/Eastern Orthodoxy, of Albanian or Vlach, or hyphenited Albanian-Vlach origin; 3. The aim of his work at "at the Hellenization of the non-Greek-speaking Christian communities in the Balkans" is confused with the aim of a similar work, the Greek-Vlach-Albanian-Bulgarian lexicon by his own student, Daniel of Moschopolis, published in 1802; 3. According to Paschalis Kitromilides, his work is the earliest evidence for the transformations that disrupted and subverted both Ottoman rule and Orthodox unity of early modern society in the Balkans.

I believe these corrections are worth considering in the collectively contributed Wikipedia.

Best regards, Albert Doja

Regarding the "massive" changes to Kavalliotis entry

There are not massive changes, just the correction of some inconstancies: 1. As the main text of the entry shows, Kavalliotis is not born in Kavalla but in Moschopolis; 2. At his time, ethnic identity was irrelevant, he was an Orthodox educated and acculturated in Greek/Romaios/Eastern Orthodoxy, of Albanian or Vlach, or hyphenited Albanian-Vlach origin; 3. The aim of his work at "at the Hellenization of the non-Greek-speaking Christian communities in the Balkans" is confused with the aim of a similar work, the Greek-Vlach-Albanian-Bulgarian lexicon by his own student, Daniel of Moschopolis, published in 1802; 3. According to Paschalis Kitromilides, his work is the earliest evidence for the transformations that disrupted and subverted both Ottoman rule and Orthodox unity of early modern society in the Balkans.

I believe these corrections are worth considering in the collectively contributed Wikipedia.

Best regards, Albert Doja

His birthplace is indeed Moschopolis, but the person in question signed his work as Αναστάσιος Καβαλιώτης, it appears that you mistakenly deleted this. Sure, ethnicity is irrelevant but his Aromanian background is good to be part of this article.Alexikoua (talk) 20:25, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Alexikoua (though I prefer to address your real name instead of a virtual nickname),

Thank you for your reaction, including for your correcting his birthplace.

Of course, the person we are writing about signed himself as "Theodoros Anastasios Kavalliotis of Moschopolis" and it is my mistake if I have deleted any of this.

A major problem with this article still remain the confusion with another work by Daniel of Moschopolis published in 1802. This latter work was commissionned to "Hellenize non-Greek-speaking Orthodox communities in the Balkans". See Paschalis Kitromilides about that. Regarding the irrelevance of ethnicity, the problem is not with his Aromanian background, but with his Albanian or hyphenated Aromanian-Albanian background, which is also good to be part of this article. Another problem is his "Greek identity", which is certainly not an ethnic Greek identity, but a cultural Greek/Romaios/Orthodox background, which is also good to be clearly stated in this article. This will avoid the unpleasing tendency to equate everything Greek/Romaios/Orthodox with the cultures and identities of Greece.

I hope my comments will help your understanding and provide more flexibility in collectively contributing to Wikipedia. Best regards, Albert Doja

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Why are you blocking me from adding informations on Pileus ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeonDardan (talk • contribs) 13:49, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pileus

Why do you keep deleting the things about Pileus under Illyria page, when it is known that the Pileus was worn by the Illyrians ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeonDardan (talk • contribs) 09:51, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I do not disagree with your edits, however you need to follow Wikipedia:Verifiability, which means that even if you're sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it. By the way the information about Illyrians wearing a similar hat is still there.Alexikoua (talk) 15:46, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Sarandaporo Medal Scan Copyright Status

Hello. I am trying to promote the Battle of Sarantaporo to GA, so I wanted to ask whether you scanned the actual medal or an image of it? If its the latter can you clarify the source?--Catlemur (talk) 19:32, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Eleni Foureira

I know you've edited on the Eleni Foureira article about how she is Greek not Albanian, but now I have an editor misunderstanding policy and trying to tell me policy says she is Albanian. Just was wondering if you could back me up in explaining this since I see your comments on the talk page explaining how policy shows she should be looked at as Greek. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 18:42, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, it's been cleared up. But the vandalism problem on Foureira's article regarding her nationality is still a major issue. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 18:50, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Φουρέιρα

Καλησπέρα, Γιατί η αλλαγή; Από την Αλβανία είναι η κοπέλα, και η ίδια πήγε τώρα στην Αλβανία και είπε "Είμαι περήφανη που είμαι Αλβανίδα". Onoufrios d (talk) 21:18, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Δεν βλέπω γιατί αυτό και μόνο μπορεί να επηρεάσει την εθνικότητα του προσώπου.Alexikoua (talk) 11:19, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK nomination of Forty Saints Monastery, Sarandë

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Alexikoua, there has been a new check made, and close paraphrasing/copyvio issues still persist. Please see the nomination page, and note that this is one example; you'll need to check for others as well. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:25, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
An additional check was made, and I'm afraid there is still close paraphrasing in the article. It's important that you deal with it all, and do so soon. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:30, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Thessalian Buas

I just wanted to pay your attention to this diff and this statistics link. This editor (Rolandi+) argued about the difference between Bua and Buia although sources like this (Institutul de Istorie și Arheologie "A.D. Xenopol." (1987). Anuarul Institutului de Istorie și Arheologie "A.D. Xenopol.". ... Familiei Buia (Bua)...) say they are the same. All the best.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 11:05, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Simply nonsense. Rolandi +sockfarm are just short-term drive by SPAs.Alexikoua (talk) 13:43, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Reverting of my edits to Markos Botsaris article

Dear user:Alexikoua,

in regards to the addition of the name in Albanian language at the Markos Botsaris article lead section, I consider it is within Wikipedia's policies and guidelines but, still I shall review again the policies as per your suggestion and I would kindly like to discuss with you back again.

In regards to the "The Greek–Albanian dictionary" section of the same article, there it is mentioned (third sentence): "...not in alphabetical order, and the Albanian words on the right, written in Greek letters." My edit was to remove the part "written in Greek letters". As I wrote to my explanation of the edit, in the Albanian part of the manuscript you can find the letter "ë" which is not part of the Greek alphabet but rather part of Albanian alphabet. So definitely the Albanian part is not written in Greek letters; such consideration is not supported and should be removed from the article. Or at least it should be re-written correctly clarifying that only the Greek part of the manuscript is written in Greek letters. Could you please kindly explain your revert of my edit at this part?

Thank You! Bcon4rit (talk) 09:56, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your contribution. About introduction in biographies see: Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Biography#Context: The opening paragraph should usually provide context for the activities that made the person notable. In most modern-day cases this will be the country of which the person is a citizen, national or permanent resident, or if the person is notable mainly for past events, the country where the person was a citizen, national or permanent resident when the person became notable.

Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. Similarly, previous nationalities or the place of birth should not be mentioned in the lead unless they are relevant to the subject's notability.Alexikoua (talk) 20:26, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Plikat

So, on 27 June you removed the Albanian name from the article by claiming that there was no Albanian presence in the village and two days later when I corrected you, then you added a source which said exactly that. Why you would made the claim that Plikat is not a settlement where Albanian is spoken when you already had access to sources which verified that? I'm very puzzled and I would want an answer. The stuff you added in Albanian communities is not referring about Plikati judging by the translation of the segment you quoted.- And it very obviously couldn't refer to a village of Christian Albanian masons, which belonged to another kaza.-Maleschreiber (talk) 23:17, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In light of additional sources the correspondent text has been updated. I puzzled why you find this weird.Alexikoua (talk) 06:15, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm puzzled why you removed this sourced part [[1]]. I assume you understand that Ioannina is the center of the kaza of Ioannina.Alexikoua (talk) 06:36, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Map of Arbanon

Arbanon remained highly independent until Dimitris's death in 1215/1216 when Micheal I started an invasion towards Kruje and ended the independence of Arbanon this is even explained in the site of Epirus and Micheal I. The map is either not pointing to that specific year or it's not very accurate cause the Bulgarian Empire was not in possession of Macedonia either until 1230, plus Arbanon was considerably more bigger until 1216 (the year when it gets invaded by Epirus and falls under its vassalage) Dardania0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dardania0 (talk • contribs) 13:37, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any examples that contradict Osswald's version?Alexikoua (talk) 19:45, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bibliography

You should read the three sources before re-inserting material that is used exactly in the same way in the expanded and detailed version. --Maleschreiber (talk) 15:18, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmmm it's quite interesting that you degrade the three distinct [2] "cultural and linguistic areas" into simple "onomastic areas" (by making Wilkes as your only preferred source in this case). I advice you portray the sources entirely and not partially. You need to avoid that, it can be considered disruptive.Alexikoua (talk) 15:29, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Why are you bringing into the debate a source that is not in the article as a way to claim that there may be "disruption" because I have not searched for every existing source? Wilkes (1992) - which you claimed to say something of the sort - doesn't do that. You can't just bring up another source that isn't in the article and then claim "disruption" because other editors haven't used it. It's your obligation to use your bibliography properly, not mine. Also, read the authors you're trying to quote as a whole, not as specific sentences. "The term "Illyrian" has referred to many things, until recently to any non-Celtic language in the broad area west of Thrace, north of Greece and Macedonia, and east of the Veneti (northeastern Italy). But scholarly work beginning in the 1960s has shown that the region is neither archaeologically, nor onomastically uniform and that it breaks down into three distinct cultural and linguistic areas, of which only can properly be called Illyrian. That is absolutely within the context of Wilkes (1992) and definitely not in the context of a forced narrative you're trying to push about what onomastic areas are - which the author doesn't even address directly.--Maleschreiber (talk) 17:44, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Providing additional reference simply proves that this piece of info needs to be part of this section. Is there a specific reason why 'Illyrian as a collective/catch all term' should be removed though it is sourced?Alexikoua (talk) 20:47, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The term "Illyrian" has referred to many things, until recently to any non-Celtic language in the broad area west of Thrace, north of Greece and Macedonia, and east of the Veneti (northeastern Italy) (not "Illyrian as catch all term") is already part of the article in the section where Pan-Illyrian theories are discussed and the part in which the Venetic area in Istria and Ljubljana is addressed are more Venetic rather than Illyrian since the 1960s. Maybe you should read more about evolution of research and what it means today. The author refers to these older theories not the modern onomastic areas. east of the Veneti is exactly addressed and in a much detailed way in the article as The third onomastic province further to the north defined as North Adriatic area includes Liburnia and the region of modern Ljubljana in Slovenia. It is part of a larger linguistic area different from Illyrian that also comprises Venetic and its Istrian variety. and The Illyrian languages were once thought to be connected to the Venetic language in the Italian Peninsula but this view was abandoned.. Modern research basically says that two onomastic areas and their overlapping areas are part of an Illyrian corpus but we can't move that far to the north, west or east.--Maleschreiber (talk) 16:57, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Apart from past use of the term modern research still points that Illyrian is used as a collective term today. This is widely sourced and there is no need to neglect such an essential fact.Alexikoua (talk) 21:06, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, for the delay in the reply - with all the different discussions going around it can get messy. So, in modern bibliography, the term Illyrian(s) is used in very defined way. You won't find any modern papers that throw around Illyrian as a catch-all identity. It refers to specific tribes Albania to middle Dalmatia and their central Balkans hinterlands. For example, much of Serbia today is not regarded as part of the Illyrian settlement and roughly half of Bosnia is part of it, while in previous decades Bosnia was considered a central part of Illyrian settlement. --Maleschreiber (talk) 17:39, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It's ok. The current structure of the sections is far better, while those onomastic/linguistic zones were in need of their own section. Let me know if you have any concerns about my recent addition based on Matzinger's paper.Alexikoua (talk) 22:12, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Which one?Alexikoua (talk) 21:47, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[3] here you removed the POV tag and made a minor edit - so you should have marked that as "rmv tag" or even better "rv tag". What you used instead was "essential additions". Just mark your edits for what they are. Thank you.--Maleschreiber (talk) 21:55, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You mean edit summaries such as this one [[4]]?Alexikoua (talk) 22:03, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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This edit removed by Calthinus is a WP:FRINGE theory which you put forward in the article. I wouldn't even know why and how you would ask "admin intervention" against any editor who highlights that these edits/theories are WP:FRINGE. If you want to put forward the idea that Greek was "already formed" in the Late Neolithic in Greece - an era in which already formed, differentiated IE languages didn't appear in the Balkans or even existed properly in their original homeland - you might want to consider another hosting space. In wikipedia, whatever theory we put forward has to be based in accurate and modern bibliography. Thank you.--Maleschreiber (talk) 07:26, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You should avoid this kind of disruptive canvassing by screaming here and there (in this case in irrelevant talkpages) about my alleged fringe. On the other hand you seem very convenient that Illyrians had settled in Illyria already from 2000 BC. Isn't that a wp:frige (and without wp:SECONDARY)?Alexikoua (talk) 07:39, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
To mention diffs that spotted your edits without even pinging specific editors is not "disruptive canvassing". There's not even a dispute to canvass anyone about it. You tried to introduce a theory that Greek existed in the Balkans in 5300-4500_BC. Can't you see the huge difference with the established theory that Illyrians, Thracians, Greeks in their proto- forms appeared prior to 2000 BC in the northern Balkans? The latter is what modern, reliable bibliography puts forward: The Balkan peninsula had three groups of Indo-Europeans prior to 2000 BC. Those on the west were the Illyrians; those on the east were the Thracians; and advancing down the southern part of the Balkans, the Greeks. (Frazee 1997). The former is something very far from what bibliography discusses.--Maleschreiber (talk) 07:50, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Well you finally agreed that this was a canvassing attempt so I assume you owe a sencere apology. Though I have to warn you that next time this will go to admin intervention. Georgiev states: "Late Neolithic Period : in northwestern Greece the Proto - Greek language had already been formed : this is the original home of the Greeks ". Georgiev is among the top linguists in the Balkan area. Nothing fridge, everything is based on RS. However, I understand that this is dismissed among part of the scholars in Albania who support the "authocthony" scenarios.Alexikoua (talk) 07:55, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks Constantine, good job.Alexikoua (talk) 07:47, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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You can't translate The state represented by 'Kemara' in the list of hosts had two centres, Himarre andBorsh, both probably fortified, and farther north the Amantes hadstrong points at Kanine and at their political centre, Ploce.42 Inland,however, in central Epirus the only fortified places were in the plain ofIoannina, the centre of the Molossian state.Thus the north-west Greek-speaking tribes were at a half-way stage economically and politically, retaining the vigour of a tribal society andreaching out in a typically Greek manner towards a larger politicalorganization. to They spoke a northwestern Greek dialect. It's a SYNTH use of bibliography and ignores the bibliographical discussion by extrapolating the view of one particular author, whose theory is already being discussed in the article.--Maleschreiber (talk) 00:28, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is clear that "the north-west Greek-speaking tribes" refer to the ones mentioned in the previous paragraph, i.e. Amantes were one of them.Alexikoua (talk)
There is no WP:SYNTH. SYNTH involves combining two or more sources, by definition. Maleschreiber, your behavior is bordering on bad faith and harassment. This has to stop, and it will, one way or another. Khirurg (talk) 04:12, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
WP:SYNTH: Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources. Similarly, do not combine different parts of one source to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by the source. If you're going to argue about SYNTH, make sure to quote it correctly. Alexikoua is inferring from the same source something that is not mentioned explicitly. They are also adding WP:UNDUE material because Hammond is already being discussed in the article. It is Hammond's opinion that this population was Greek-speaking and that is explicitly mentioned in Hammond (1989) (not in Hammond's chapter in the CAH), but Hammond who is in the minority can't be readded in wikivoice (with a wrong citation) in order to bypass every other source and imply that almost every source which was published after 1990 considers them to be Illyrians, but also accepts that they were Greek-speaking - Hammond's theory. It's a problem of methodology to repeatedly highlight the one particular author with whom you agree, but whose corpus of works was written 40-60 years ago and is considered outdated today because we have 6 other sources written in the 21st century which don't reach the same conclusions as well as many others from his era which disagree with him.
I'm trying to highlight how editing should function in terms of how bibliographical discussions are presented, but if you think that this is "harrassment", do what feels best for you and file a report and then everyone's editing history will be scrutinized. I think that everyone's activity should be discussed on AE, the administration board which has really improved the Balkan topic area with its decisions.--Maleschreiber (talk) 14:18, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Did you read the part about combining multiple sources? Now cut it out with the WP:BULLYING and WP:HARASSMENT or you will end up defending yourself at AE. Khirurg (talk) 16:57, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Your edit today included a quote from a book by N.G.L. Hammond. The quote included misspellings and an odd system of spacing and punctuation. Does the quoted material appear this way in the book? Jellysandwich0 (talk) 17:27, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the notice. It appears that copy-pasting text directly from googlebooks snippets sucks in this case.Alexikoua (talk) 17:36, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  • @Drmies: Sorry, I was going to fix this immediately but it was instantly removed.Alexikoua (talk) 23:22, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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About a DYK you reviewed

Hello Alexikoua. Can I call you Alex? Alexi? Anyway, I'm here to bring to your attention that this DYK hook about a temple probably inspiring the design of India's Parliament House, which you reviewed in 2015, might not have been accurately cited. I've listed out my concerns at Parliament House's talk page. I hope you'll have a look at them. Cheers and kind regards, Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI converse | fings wot i hav dun 07:09, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, off course. I'm looking at the July 2015 version [[7]] now, but unfortunately one of the correspodent inlines appears now unavailable.~. [[8]].Alexikoua (talk) 10:03, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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If the order of the discussion of people is A, B - then you follow that order in the placement of images. Not the reverse - as you did repeatedly. Also, beyond that, we want to avoid sandwiching text between images -- as you have now done. Please follow the MOS for images. --2603:7000:2143:8500:3D36:6921:7E85:C984 (talk) 08:56, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That's a good reason to fix the order per chronological sequence. Good catch!Alexikoua (talk) 21:55, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hormova

May I know how do the sources provided fail wp:HISTRS ? Zemertrimi (talk) 11:15, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The reference you provided avoid to present their bibliography. That's a strong point for a work to fail wp:RS.Alexikoua (talk) 21:43, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Can I ask the reason you have reverted a citation error back into the article? Please see the very red error message in the article and read Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no text. As this is a noncontroversial technical fix, I'm going to revert back to my version so it no longer appears in the errors list. Thanks 89.241.33.89 (talk) 19:56, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Giving me a DS alert after I posted one here is a very naive act. When I give an alert to another editor it is counted that I also am aware of it. I posted it here as part of the procedure since you breached the Greater Albania's 1RR. I came in good faith, though I could just report you for the breach. Such a naive act. Ktrimi991 (talk) 23:25, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, sure, I'll self revert for the time, nevertheless this DS alert was not helpful, I'm already aware of this topic in general.Alexikoua (talk) 23:28, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The procedure is that the editor should have been aware in the last 12 months. I did not find one within that time period in your tp's history. Ktrimi991 (talk) 23:31, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Alexikoua, it 's been too long since we last met in WP. I am happy to see that you are still active. So, might I ask a favour? Article on EOKA is pretty good. It has some major drawbacks, but with little work, it could became a Good Article. How nice would be that? My understanding is that it needs an introduction (that s where I need your help- could you do it? I could try but I feel most editors think I am biased) Other drawbacks is the undue weight on section of "Foreign Office declassified documents and EOKA lawsuits against the British government". (this can be solved with a little goodwill) Also, the Legacy and Aftermath sections need expanding but I didn't find a real RS (I mean academic work that discuss the effect EOKA struggle had on Cypurs -TC, GC, leftists- or on global scale). That 's the biggest obstacle. Otherwise, we are close enough to getting GA status. Cheers! Cinadon36 07:45, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's great news to hear! It will be a pleasure to contribute together to upgrade it to GA. I'm already checking those issues.Alexikoua (talk) 08:08, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Please report that guy to the wikipedia ani. He is constantly presenting povs to the article without getting consensus, has been reverted at least 5 times before by different users and always gets past his way with me every time getting blocked. You'll have difficulty in proving yourself right (talking by experience), but a try always worths as they say. Thank you in advance. 46.176.127.91 (talk) 22:42, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Further vandalism at Andromache article. If you see previous edits of them, they were constantly changing Greek to German-Greek and the most recent pic I added to an irrelevant one the singer barerly seems. 46.176.127.91 (talk) 00:03, 1 June 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.210.34.169 (talk) [reply]

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Your recent editing history at Eleni Foureira shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Binksternet (talk) 19:42, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Eleni Foureira. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

  1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
  2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Stop misrepresenting the source, which only shows Foureira making a "what if" statement, some conjecture about what might happen. She does not say that she is from Northern Epirus. Also, there are no other sources saying she is from Northern Epirus. Please make your case at Talk:Eleni Foureira. Binksternet (talk) 17:07, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

June 2022

Stop adding conjectures in WP:WIKIVOICE or you will be reported. – Βατο (talk) 20:57, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What do you differ between an archipalego and "islands"? Sazan is clearly inclueded, as the list is saying AlexBachmann (talk) 20:40, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Stop stalking

Stop stalking me or you'll get reported. In addition, how do you want to tell the demographics today of a town, when the source is 20 years old? If no answer takes place as before, I'll revert your edit. AlexBachmann (talk) 20:54, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

At which topic are you referring too? What's 20 years old?Alexikoua (talk) 20:58, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dropull AlexBachmann (talk) 22:20, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) This edit was unsourced in addition to violating WP:OR. - LouisAragon (talk) 01:23, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Do you know why everything was unsourced? Because these things were in the exact article... AlexBachmann (talk) 13:20, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your reverts

Wow. You've removed many Albanian names. WP:NC actually states "Relevant foreign language names used by a group of people which used to inhabit this geographical place are permitted' You've been on Wikipedia for a while, you ought to know this. AlexBachmann (talk) 13:22, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We need to follow wp:BRD, in short controversial edits in order to be re-added in text need to establish consensus.Alexikoua (talk) 20:13, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you keeping reverting? Familiarize yourself with WP:NC, and do not revert if that could have been avoided. There are Greek ones in Suthern Albania too, and we accept them, so do not say it is "provocating" or something adding Albanian names. AlexBachmann (talk) 21:00, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
you should familiarize by opening a topic at talkpage. wp:NPA isn't a sound approach especially when you straight engage in editwar by editing controversial content in multiple articles.Alexikoua (talk) 21:04, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I do not care what you view as "controversial content". There are also Greek alternative names in Albanian articles...
Why did I open the topic here? Because you like it to don't respond. AlexBachmann (talk) 21:08, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Also, this does not fall under "Personal Attacks" AlexBachmann (talk) 21:12, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Also your edit on Arta is not correct. Albanians had lived in Arta...
"This left Epirus open to increasing Albanian migration, who soon captured most of Epirus, except for Ioannina" Fine 1994, pp. 350–351 AlexBachmann (talk) 21:05, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This proves nothing, when a population passes from a region to another doesn't warrant inclusion of an alternative name. NC is quite clear when an addition of an alternative name is warranted: if its used by at least by 10% of works in English speaking bibliography.Alexikoua (talk) 21:10, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Again for you: "Relevant foreign language names used by a group of people which used to inhabit this geographical place are permitted"
If Arta was inhabited by Chams or not, let us discuss that later. AlexBachmann (talk) 21:11, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Notice that Gjirokaster, Korce, Vlore, don't have a Greek name in 1st line. Also per wp:BRD, discussion should take place prior to addition (after consensus).Alexikoua (talk) 21:14, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Vlora never had a Greek population with the exeption in Ancient times. Also Gjirokastra has the Greek Name in the Info box. Korca is historically more Slavic than Greek. AlexBachmann (talk) 21:18, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Vlore still has a c. 8,000 Greek community (Petiffer; 2001). Nevertheless, you need to provide sourcing that the Albanian name is used by at least 10% in English bibliography. Arta was not part of Chameria, while in Parga even the Muslim community was Greek speaking, but if you can provide material that supports that at least a 10% in English bibliography use Albanian forms I'm ok.Alexikoua (talk) 21:23, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Can we talk on Talk:Preveza now? AlexBachmann (talk) 21:25, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Eleni Foureira

I already expressed my argumentation in the talk page, regarding the edits I made. Stop edit warring and start expressing your reasons in the talk page. There is no way you are edit warring about Facts.

She is an Albanian, naturalised Greek.

Seems perfectly neutral to me. This is what it is. FierakuiVërtet (talk) 02:14, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This description is wrong per wp:MOSBIO, you can't begin with a biography as such. You understand that you need to present more concrete arguments on this issue, she is notable as a Greek singer.Alexikoua (talk) 02:51, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The description is perfect as per WP:MOSBIO, since it is requested the 'Nationality' in the lead section! (not which language she use to sing)
  • She was born in Albania, which use the Jus sanguinis law to grant chitizenships and permits dual citizenship.
  • She said herself in an interview on Youtube that she obtained Greek chitizenship at 7-8 thanks. Greece permits dual citizenship. Video on YouTube
This is called Naturalisation, and wheter you like it or not it's a thing.
She an Albanian, who obtained Greek citizen ships.
Her ethnicity is notable! Even if people allegedly (you need to present more concrete arguments on this issue) think she his Greek.
As a matter of fact, i was willing to write a how she got bullied in school for being Albanian. (notable information) FierakuiVërtet (talk) 03:18, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Someone who was born in country X doesn't make him of X ethnicity. The singer became notable in Greece, sings only in Greek and self declares as Greek. You need to became familiar with wp:BLP. Naturalisation is irrelevant with notability.Alexikoua (talk) 03:48, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
1) She literally said that she could get Greek citizenship only thanks to her grandfather, which means that she is for 1/4 either Cham Albanian or an Albanian Aromanian and that her other grandparents are Albanians. This is beacuse the Greek state grant the citizenship only following the Jus sanguinis, which means that only his grandfather had this right, while the other grandparents did not (therefore not Greeks, not Aromanians).
This is very common: Aromanians, whether from Albania or not, are considered Greeks by the Greek state, and they are granted the citizenship if they can prove they speak Aromanian.
This are the policies of the Greek State whether you like it or not
You cannot make this kind of conjecture: What if she is not an ethnic Albanian?. (Albanians are the most homogeneous group in Europe)
However... The Greek State considered her an ethnic non-Greek for 3/4, but granted her the citizenship (that is not the ethnicity) because of her 1/4.
Therefore:
  • if there is an ethnicity/nationality to be put is the Albanian one.
  • It is notable as per WP:MOSBIO, since the Lead section requests the nationality.
  • Read WP:POV
These are facts and his hilarious you are contesting them.
2)
Who says she usually declares herself Greek?
Who says she considered herself more Greek than Albanian?
If you cannot answer these questions you must follow WP:POV and include both.
By your logic, I myself could start to make conjecture, saying that, being bullied her whole life for being Albanian made her more attached to her true ethnicity. But, these are just conjectures... FierakuiVërtet (talk) 05:00, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
We are not going into speculations here. Why she self declares as Greek? why she did not sing a single Albanian song? She is notable as a Greek singer. You are still going deep into BLP violations by speculating that she is Cham or Vlach or whatever. That's not a productive approach and you need to follow wp:BLP. Without following BLP guidelines you will soon end blocked of under restriction.Alexikoua (talk) 18:12, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not speculating.

His grandfather had the right to obtain Greek citizenship, as she said. This means, by law, that he was either Cham, Vlach or Greek.

She did not say that his grandfather was Greek. This is your speculation. She said that his grandfather came from Greece.

This means that she is at least 3/4 Albanians.

The one making conjecture is you, since you know that Greece is a multiracial country. So her grandfather (1/4) could be Greek or not.

Moreover she did not say that she feels Greek, and singing or talking in X does not mean you are X. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FierakuiVërtet (talk • contribs) 19:29, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You expressed nothing more that personal speculations combined with NPA violations. Without RS there is no way you can name a person that's non notable in Albania as Albanian. See Dua Lipa for example, the word 'Albanian' is completely absent in her lead.Alexikoua (talk) 19:38, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
We already set this up in her talk page, since she said herself she is Albanian.
Moreover the one expressing personal speculation is you, since you are ingnoring the facts: Greece uses only the Jus sanguinis to grant citizenship before 18 years old.
Her ethnicity and nationality are important (e.g. it is important to the Albanian seeing the success of Albanians figure around the world).
You must understand that believing that the Greek nationality is more important (notable) than the Albanian nationality is highly biased and it is not a neutral point of view.
You had already been told that my edit does not violate any WP, so the discussion is concluded.
P.S. Saying but Dua Lipa, but Y, but X means nothing since they are separeted articles and should be traited with separated discussions. (e.g one should argue that Dua Lipa has not an Albanian citizenship, since she was born in Kosovo, at that time Yugoslavia autonomous region.) FierakuiVërtet (talk) 22:03, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
According to your argument presented here D. Lipa is Yugoslavian. It' just proved that you shot yourself on the foot. You should be careful in the way you express such views. There aren't only Albanian born biographies in wikipedia. Former citizenship is irrelevant in case of notability.Alexikoua (talk) 22:56, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Liste up! It has already been prooved, and supported by the singer herself in an interview, that she is Albanian.

It's not former citizenship. Albania and Greece permits dual citizenship. Stop making things up!

Ignoring all the arguments won't lead you anywhere.

Again: the information is notable for Albanians at least, and for WP:MOSBIO.

About Dua Lipa: you should use a thing called Logic: Yugoslavia is not a thing anymore, it got burned. Did you forgot it? (Not the case of Albania).

Moreover, I literally said that it would have been a separate disussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FierakuiVërtet (talk • contribs) 23:47, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rv block evasion by Dealer07

That edit summary [10] needs to be supported with an SPI with evidence. Otherwise it is a personal attack. Actually, it is not a good practice to revert someone as a sock account without them being already blocked by an admin as a sock, i.e. socking should first be proven then reverted. Ktrimi991 (talk) 19:54, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's my fault and I apologize to the community for this edit summary. Although my edit summary is wrong, the reverts are still valid. What's also weird is that you usually ignore the NPA violations launched by editors that share your ethnic background, such as the specific user in question.Alexikoua (talk) 19:59, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I am not involved in those content disputes, so I have not read all comments. If you see personal attacks somewhere, report them. If need be, ping me there. Btw, do not comment on what you think to be my "ethnic background". It is not constructive at all, and you know that very well as you participated at a discussion where an admin pointed out such issues. For the sake of truth, I have reported several editors who can be seen as "Albanian editors", and I can easily prove that with diffs. Disruption does not have ethnicity, at least from my perspective. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:05, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Alltan (talk) 19:24, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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