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== Only warning: topic bans and "broadly construed" ==

Hi, 7&6=thirteen,{{bcc|SandyGeorgia}}<!--Pinged me in response to Coldwell TBANvio-->

Your recent edits necessitate a clarification on two related fronts:
* Regarding [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dr._Blofeld&diff=prev&oldid=1142262520], your ArbCom TBAN is from {{tqq|deletion discussions, broadly construed}}. It is <em>not</em> from just participating in the AfD process, and looking at the final decision in [[WP:ARBXFD]] it's clear that ArbCom did not intend it to be, as some editors <em>did</em> get TBANs just from participation. The sanction is about deletion discussions as a topic.
* Regarding [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Doug_Coldwell&diff=prev&oldid=1142276022], your community TBAN includes {{tqq|All content pages that Doug Coldwell has significantly contributed to, or discussions in other namespaces related to those pages, broadly construed}}. To be very very clear, this includes comments such as the one you made to Wasted Time R, not just participation in formal discussions like a GAR.

If you have any questions about the scope of the ArbCom TBAN, you can ask the Committee at [[WP:A/R/C]]; if you have any questions about the scope of the community sanction, you can ask me or, if I am unavailable, ask at [[WP:AN]]. But what's important here is that these sanctions are all ''broadly construed''. There are not exceptions for "Just a quick comment on someoene's usertalk". You are not allowed to comment on these topics anywhere on the English Wikipedia.

We are at, truly, the end of the road here. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/7%266%3Dthirteen?offset=202303011429&limit=3 Three consecutive edits] violating two different TBANs very much strains AGF, and honestly the only reason I'm not blocking is because I think if I did block it would have to be indef, and I want to be crystal clear on applicable policy before reaching that point. So, again, these sanctions are to be construed broadly. This is the only warning you are going to get regarding this, and the ArbCom sanction portion of it will be logged. (There is no log of warnings for community sanction violations.) I don't want to block you, but if you continue making comments like these I will not have another option.

<span class="nowrap"> <span style="font-family:courier">-- [[User:Tamzin|<span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span>]]</span><sup>[''[[User talk:Tamzin|<span style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</span>]]'']</sup> (she&#124;they&#124;xe)</span> 14:52, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

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My user name does not ping in the usual way, because of the equal sign "=", I am told. I thought it was ampersand "&", but am informed that wasn't true.[2]

However, I am a Luddite, and my WP:User name has served me well for a decade and a half; so I am not about to change. I sincerely apologize for any inconvenience.

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  • "A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction into a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day." -- Calvin, of Calvin and Hobbes. --Guy Macon 7&6=thirteen () 13:55, 12 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]


This week's article for improvement (week 2, 2021)

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  1. ^ The code flag K "Kilo" means 'I wish to communicate with you. ' International Marine Signal Flags are international signals used by ships at sea.
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I know you mean well, but the situation with the content regarding Gratiot Avenue in that article is getting a little crazy from my perspective. I get that someone removed it originally because the road's named after the fort, not him directly, but that means the road's named after him indirectly by one degree of abstraction. You want the road mentioned there, and I agree based on my work writing about it.

However, I think it looks a bit silly to have five citations after a two-sentence paragraph. Usually anything over two consecutive citations looks bad. Honestly, I've seen situations like that described as "desperate to make a point" or such. Trust me, I've been there, adding multiple citations to a sentence in the M-185 article to prove a point that it's a "motorless highway" or such in the face of someone determined to remove it. I saw the light and pared it down so that it was appropriate.

If that were the whole situation though, that would still look off. But you have that explanatory note there that leads to a seven-sentence paragraph that has eight footnotes to seven sources. I'm not saying that the idea of the note is bad, per se, but it needs to be trimmed. It's getting a bit far afield for an article about Gratiot the man. You don't need any mention of L'Enfant and Washington, DC, at all, and you probably don't need any mention of Woodward and Detroit's wide avenues because Gratiot Avenue would have connected into the city someplace regardless of the city's street plan. Realistically, the last bit of the note should be integrated into the body of the article to say that the road was named for the fort, which was in turned named for the man. With a little editing, you get a compact explanation of this facet of Gratiot's enduring legacy.

As a quick side note, Gratiot, Wisconsin, doesn't belong in the article at all if it's named for Henry and not Charles. Put that in Henry's article, not Charles' because it's not Charles' legacy.

Now, I've trimmed that section down again because it's turned into a coatrack to pile on sourcing. You have Dr. Barnett's book citation and Farmer's book citation to back that the road is named for the fort and therefore also for the man. That's enough to warrant including the roadway in the article. If anyone disputes that, I'll support its inclusion. I won't support writing a miniature article on Gratiot Avenue there when we already have articles about it. Imzadi 1979  17:06, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

User:Imzadi1979 You don't need my permission. And no explanation is necessary, but I appreciate the sentiment. I think Gratiot Avenue and the other places should be mentioned in the article. I was unhappy when it was wiped out.
You did eliminate quite a bit of material from here.
So, okay. I don't own it. And I'm done with the article.
FWIW, I think this belongs on the article's talk page, not here.
Happy editing. Best to you. 7&6=thirteen () 21:43, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Copying this to the article talk page. 7&6=thirteen () 22:09, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No, this is something for us, here. I tried to trim back the unneeded content once while respecting your desire to have it mentioned in the article once. That's why I specifically commented here to explain myself, to you. Copying comments made to you, for you, to a public forum without context distorts them. You couldn't even use the {{copied from}} template so others would know that the "you" to whom I referred was a specific editor.
As for the one comment about the dead link. Well, it wasn't really dead. However, it was a link to the top level of a news website without the name of the article or a date on when the site was accessed. That's not a useful citation, doesn't validate that at one time it could have been used to verify things. That would be like me putting in a footnote to The New York Times, no date/page/etc. How do you verify something to that? In short, you don't, meaning we need a citation there to replace it. Imzadi 1979  23:38, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't add anything to an article. I did post that it was copied. Posting it there "did service" and eradicating it didn't, although you disagree. Since I had posted it, that (meaning my talk page) would seem to be the source. IMO. I didn't think that it needed to be templated; but you may be right. Sorry to have irritated you.
We could argue over whether it was a dead link or not. It doesn't work any longer. If that is an important distinction, indulge and fix it.
Again. As I said, the ball is in your court. I was not criticizing anything you have done. I merely thought other persons who want to edit that page should be aware. Do your best. Cheers. 7&6=thirteen () 01:09, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This week's article for improvement (week 8, 2023)

Hello, 7&6=thirteen. The article for improvement of the week is:

Textbook

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February songs

February songs
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My story on 24 February is about Artemy Vedel (TFA by Amitchell235), and I made a suggestion for more peace, - what do you think? -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:50, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

today: two women whose birthday we celebrate today, 99 and 90! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:21, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This week's article for improvement (week 9, 2023)

Greenland is the world's largest island.
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Island

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Only warning: topic bans and "broadly construed"

Hi, 7&6=thirteen,

Your recent edits necessitate a clarification on two related fronts:

  • Regarding [1], your ArbCom TBAN is from deletion discussions, broadly construed. It is not from just participating in the AfD process, and looking at the final decision in WP:ARBXFD it's clear that ArbCom did not intend it to be, as some editors did get TBANs just from participation. The sanction is about deletion discussions as a topic.
  • Regarding [2], your community TBAN includes All content pages that Doug Coldwell has significantly contributed to, or discussions in other namespaces related to those pages, broadly construed. To be very very clear, this includes comments such as the one you made to Wasted Time R, not just participation in formal discussions like a GAR.

If you have any questions about the scope of the ArbCom TBAN, you can ask the Committee at WP:A/R/C; if you have any questions about the scope of the community sanction, you can ask me or, if I am unavailable, ask at WP:AN. But what's important here is that these sanctions are all broadly construed. There are not exceptions for "Just a quick comment on someoene's usertalk". You are not allowed to comment on these topics anywhere on the English Wikipedia.

We are at, truly, the end of the road here. Three consecutive edits violating two different TBANs very much strains AGF, and honestly the only reason I'm not blocking is because I think if I did block it would have to be indef, and I want to be crystal clear on applicable policy before reaching that point. So, again, these sanctions are to be construed broadly. This is the only warning you are going to get regarding this, and the ArbCom sanction portion of it will be logged. (There is no log of warnings for community sanction violations.) I don't want to block you, but if you continue making comments like these I will not have another option.

-- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 14:52, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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