A tag has been placed on Earth Liberation Prisoner Support Network, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia per speedy deletion criterion G12.

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as an appropriate article, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is appropriate, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the article and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. nancy 19:26, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Thank you. ♦Tangerines♦·Talk 20:17, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Again, will you please use an edit summary when editing, thank you. ♦Tangerines♦·Talk 20:42, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia. :-)

Just a note to say that, when you're adding links to "see also," check first to make sure they're not already linked in the animal rights template, or in the article. See also is for internal links that otherwise don't appear on the page, and occasionally for ones that you feel need to be emphasized (though if they're on the template, that's usually regarded as emphasis enough). We have three animal-rights related templates, by the way: Template:Animal testing, Template:Animal rights, Template:Alibend. The last two should have identical content -- the point of having two is that sometimes there's no room in an article for the upright template, and in those cases we use alibend instead, which goes at the bottom of the page.

Also, if you'd like to join the Animal Rights Wikiproject, you can sign up here. SlimVirgin ^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:01, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. The above article was deleted as it contained what appears to be copyright material from here. Please feel free to re-write the article in your own words, but do not copy and paste material from other websites, unless you own the copyright and intend to release it on a free license. Rockpocket 21:27, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing your recent edits, I'm concerned that you're pushing sales of the above author's books. I've removed the links to the book from all the articles in which you've added them. I'm sure you understand! Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry 22:16, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I have concerns with your username. Would you be inclined to change it? Best, Mercury 01:30, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, you have now received a number of messages about your edits on wikipedia. Yet at present you do not seem to have taken on board any of the comments (such as providing edit summaries etc). I am assuming good faith in your edits, however I really would strongly suggest that you read how to edit on wikipedia and in particular how to create articles etc before you continue as a number of your edits are only creating more work for other editors. If you need any assistance you only have to ask, but please tak on board the advice you are being given. ♦Tangerines♦·Talk 03:13, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, one or more of the external links you added to the page Unnecessary Fuss do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Wikipedia is not a collection of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry 03:16, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Continued refusals

You seem disinclined to talk to anyone about this, and as such I'm going to keep an eye on your edits,just to make sure you don't fall afoul of any of the guidelines - we don't want you getting blocked over something you didn't intend! If you could :

1. Stop inserting internal and external links into the 'See Also' and 'External Links' sections, it'd help a lot. The links aren't really relevant, and serve only to clutter the article.
2. Please stop pushing books that present a skewed view of the Animal liberation Front and other organisations. Please try and stick to books that provide an objective view of the organisations, preferably written by someone in government or the legal industry. That way we can avoid linking to books that are potentially inflammatory, or that condone quasi-terrorist and criminal activities.
3. Please, please, please re-think your username. You've been asked about this before, and we're extremely keen to get it changed to something less offensive. We'd rather you changed it voluntarily, than have to resort to a block.

Thankyou, Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry 03:24, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

1. Apologies, I have tried to update some pages that clearly were missing links to relevant pages. Such as ALF to ALFSG and visa versa with the Press Office etc.
2. FYI: Keith Mann is a trained lawyer.
3. I find this offensive, the ideological meaning of username is not.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Untileverycageisempty (talk • contribs) 04:30, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the points you're trying to make, and the links you have added obviously show that you're trying to help the project. The links in the 'See Also' section, however, are generally only needed if the link itself is not mentioned in the article, and if the subject has a direct link to the 'see also' links - not just an association with them. Secondly, Keith Mann may be a trained lawyer, but he is hardly a neutral source! How about an objective analysis written by someone who isn't pro animal rights, or pro-vivisection? Finally, although your username does show your views on the subject, it's not quite... pleasant. Several other Wikipedia editors work for Huntingdon Life Sciences, and I myself have had violent run-ins with both sides in the past as part of my daily work. If we can talk about your username here, and try to come to a conclusion that suits the both of us, then hopefully we won't need to involve anyone else! Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry 03:38, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Chase me, I agree that this user needs guidance; thank you for keeping an eye on things. However, I feel I have to take issue with one point you made, namely that we shouldn't link to books written by animal rights activists. Of course we must do that, in order to present their POV. Governments, scientists, activists for and against all have POV on this issue. I doubt there are any neutral sources. So what we do is use sources in accordance with V, NOR, and NPOV -- bearing in mind undue weight, appropriateness, and so on. SlimVirgin ^{(talk)(contribs)} 04:16, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm uninvolved here, but can I just say that I don't see what is so wrong with this person's user name, it doesn't mention any company names and it doesn't appear threatening or violent, as long as he/she edits neutrally, that is what matters isn't it? Sue Wallace 04:32, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really know where this should go, but have added it here. However it does seem, from the edits made, as though this user is also this user - Doingwhatwikitellsme. ♦Tangerines♦·Talk 04:38, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, it seems you've gained a fair few negative comments in your first few days on wikipedia. I for one appreciates some of your contributions as there are many holes in wikipedias coverage of the history of direct action. It takes some time to get round the way wikipedia works.

Things WP likes

citations, that is information backed up sources from books, newpapers, magazines

the concept of open source lies at the heart of WP

WP:NPOV a neutral point of view.

Things WP does not like

Blatent plugs and advertising

Copyright violation

One sided advocacy.

So working with wikipedia requires a very different outlook to a campaining groups. Personally I think WP is a great means for documenting the history of the animal rights and enviromental actions and doing this is a very worthwhile task.

Take your addition of the Steve Best book. Currently the additions look like advertising. However if the book can be used as material to help document part of the history then it could server as a good reference. In particular if the book describes the work of Earth Liberation Prisoner Support Network then a appropriate citation could help establish the notability of that topic. Things need to be very specific: what did Best say about ELPSN?

I hope you take the above on board, ignore it and your stay could be short lived, take heed and you could make some valuable contributions. --Salix alba (talk) 08:51, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]