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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a [[Wikipedia:Wikipedians|Wikipedian]]! Please [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|sign your name]] on talk pages using four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out [[Wikipedia:Where to ask a question]] or ask me on [[User talk:Fundageek|my talk page]]. Again, welcome! <!-- Template:Welcome-COI --> [[user:220 of Borg|'''220''']] [[Special:Contributions/220 of Borg|''<small>of</small>'']] <sup>[[User talk:220 of Borg|''Borg'']]</sup> 22:39, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a [[Wikipedia:Wikipedians|Wikipedian]]! Please [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|sign your name]] on talk pages using four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out [[Wikipedia:Where to ask a question]] or ask me on [[User talk:Fundageek|my talk page]]. Again, welcome! <!-- Template:Welcome-COI --> [[user:220 of Borg|'''220''']] [[Special:Contributions/220 of Borg|''<small>of</small>'']] <sup>[[User talk:220 of Borg|''Borg'']]</sup> 22:39, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

{{help me}}

I don't know if this is the way to ask questions here, but I need clarification on who can post info about a company. In my case, the company is FundaGeek. I work for the company. Many of our users have asked why there is no info on wikipedia for our company, so I recently wrote some very generic, neutral, and simple facts about the company. The info was in no way an ad or promotional in nature. So are the rules such that nobody from a company can write about the company? If not, then who does write this info, just someone who feels like it? Please excuse my ignorance about how your site works.


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Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field. If you are adding a section, please do not just keep the previous section's header in the Edit summary field – please fill in your new section's name instead. Thank you.<!-- Template:Summary --> - [[user:220 of Borg|'''220''']] [[Special:Contributions/220 of Borg|''<small>of</small>'']] <sup>[[User talk:220 of Borg|''Borg'']]</sup> 22:39, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field. If you are adding a section, please do not just keep the previous section's header in the Edit summary field – please fill in your new section's name instead. Thank you.<!-- Template:Summary --> - [[user:220 of Borg|'''220''']] [[Special:Contributions/220 of Borg|''<small>of</small>'']] <sup>[[User talk:220 of Borg|''Borg'']]</sup> 22:39, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

==Help==

{{help me-helped}}

I don't know if this is the way to ask questions here, but I need clarification on who can post info about a company. In my case, the company is FundaGeek. I work for the company. Many of our users have asked why there is no info on wikipedia for our company, so I recently wrote some very generic, neutral, and simple facts about the company. The info was in no way an ad or promotional in nature. So are the rules such that nobody from a company can write about the company? If not, then who does write this info, just someone who feels like it? Please excuse my ignorance about how your site works.
:Drafting full response. [[User:Dru of Id|Dru of Id]] ([[User talk:Dru of Id|talk]]) 17:20, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
:(sectionized and moved from above).
:Those with a conflict of interest, pro or con, are not completely prohibited from editing the company article, although accounts which do so libelously, and those which continue to insert material deemed inappropriate are likely to be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] or [[Wikipedia:Banning policy|banned]], so let's review your latest series of edits, summed up [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fundageek&diff=504020720&oldid=489070972 here]:

*Crowdfunding is not a type of investment or debt instrument. - not about Fundageek; hyperlink to crowd funding justified within article, but the article hasn't been wikified; it is already in the category.
* Pledges do not involve any form of equity interest. - not about Fundageek, unsourced.
*The April 2012 JOBS Act opens up the prospects for "equity crowdfunding" however the SEC has not yet defined the required rules for participation. - not about Fundageek, unsourced.
*The industry expects this to happen in 2013. - not about Fundageek, unsourced.
*soft- -unnecessary, not explained, unsourced.
*co-founders - minor clarification of something which seems obvious, but not problematical; unsourced; does not specify if there were others, but it didn't before, either. Uncontroversial.
*Amulet → AMULET - promotional and directly against [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trademarks]] - unless it's an acronym, in which case it should be broken out, then & thereafter abbreviated.
*Extension - minor clarification; unsourced. Uncontroversial.
* author of three computer industry books - minor clarification which makes the phrase easily dated, not recommended for living subjects except frequently edited articles; unsourced.
* served as technical - minor clarification; unsourced. Uncontroversial.
*FundaGeek uses the "all or nothing" funding model adopted by many other crowdfunding sites. - promotional; can be read to imply that Fundageek was the first; unsourced. 'adopted by other crowdfunding sites' should be removed as irrelevant, unlesss Fundageek was first, and that's sourced.
*This model only applies to commercial, for-profit projects. - unproveable generalization, likely to be at least one exception, which negates it unless covered and sourced; unsourced.
*Commercial project campaigns must reach their goal amount by the end of the campaign period in order to get any funding. unproveable generalization, likely to be at least one exception, which negates it unless covered and sourced; unsourced.
*Funding for scientific research and community support projects, on the other hand, receive whatever funding the project has attracted by the end of the campaign period. - generalization, likely true; unsourced. Uncontroversial.
*on FundaGeek - minor clarification; incidentally promotional; unsourced. Uncontroversial.
*at the end of the campaign period - 'by' might be more exact; minor clarification; unsourced. Uncontroversial.
*initiates a process whereby PayPal processes all pledge transactions. - not about Fundageek; overly detailed; info like this should be on Fundageek's website, as subject to change; unsourced.
*At this time the project owner receives the project funding in the PayPal verified account associated with the FundaGeek account, less PayPal's processing fee (2-3%) and FundaGeek's fee of either - 'at such time' or 'at that time' might be more exact; overly detailed, as above; unsourced.
*for Standard Marketing Resources, or 9% for Premium Marketing Resources. - same

*Addition of three additional site links. - Promotional directly against [[Wikipedia:External links]].

The article has one external source as a reference; if more are not added, it risks 1) being speedily deleted if edited to be too promotional, 2) [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|proposed for deletion]] where it would be deleted in week if not contested, or 3) listed at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion]] (requires a full week discussion with possible extensions, and which looks like a vote, but is a discussion of policies). While additional sources likely exist which would result in keeping the article, articles are frequently deleted even years after creation.

All of that being said, the recommended course of action would be to read [[Wikipedia:Conflict of interest]], and post further sources to the article talk page. I'll additionally note there are minimal restictions on removing libelous or unsourced negative information, patent nonsense 'invented baldness!', or vandalism, but [[Wikipedia:Ownership of articles|attempted ownership]], [[Wikipedia:Disruptive editing|disruptive editing]], and [[Wikipedia:Edit warring|edit warring]] may result in blocking or banning.

I would request you review your edits, compare the feedback above, and remove or self-revert the ones against policy. I will check back, on the chance you don't see this in a timely manner and make changes myself if needed. [[User:Dru of Id|Dru of Id]] ([[User talk:Dru of Id|talk]]) 18:35, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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Welcome![edit]

Hello, Ddgutierrez314, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I notice that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

To reduce the chances of your contributions being undone, you might like to draft your revised article before submission, and then ask me or any other editor to proofread it. See our help page on userspace drafts for more details. If the page you created has already been deleted from Wikipedia, but you want to save the content from it to use for that draft, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.

The one firm rule we do have in connection with conflicts of interest is that accounts used by more than one person will unfortunately be blocked from editing. Wikipedia generally does not allow editors to have usernames which imply that the account belongs to a company or corporation. If you have a username like this, you should request a change of username or create a new account. (A name that identifies the user as an individual within a given organization may be OK.)

If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! You can also just type {{helpme}} on your user page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! 220 of Borg 22:39, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

July 2012[edit]

Hi there. When editing an article on Wikipedia there is a small field labeled "Edit summary" under the main edit-box. It looks like this:
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The text written here will appear on the Recent changes page, in the page revision history, on the diff page, and in the watchlists of users who are watching that article. See m:Help:Edit summary for full information on this feature.

Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field. If you are adding a section, please do not just keep the previous section's header in the Edit summary field – please fill in your new section's name instead. Thank you. - 220 of Borg 22:39, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Help[edit]

I don't know if this is the way to ask questions here, but I need clarification on who can post info about a company. In my case, the company is FundaGeek. I work for the company. Many of our users have asked why there is no info on wikipedia for our company, so I recently wrote some very generic, neutral, and simple facts about the company. The info was in no way an ad or promotional in nature. So are the rules such that nobody from a company can write about the company? If not, then who does write this info, just someone who feels like it? Please excuse my ignorance about how your site works.

Drafting full response. Dru of Id (talk) 17:20, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
(sectionized and moved from above).
Those with a conflict of interest, pro or con, are not completely prohibited from editing the company article, although accounts which do so libelously, and those which continue to insert material deemed inappropriate are likely to be blocked or banned, so let's review your latest series of edits, summed up here:
  • Crowdfunding is not a type of investment or debt instrument. - not about Fundageek; hyperlink to crowd funding justified within article, but the article hasn't been wikified; it is already in the category.
  • Pledges do not involve any form of equity interest. - not about Fundageek, unsourced.
  • The April 2012 JOBS Act opens up the prospects for "equity crowdfunding" however the SEC has not yet defined the required rules for participation. - not about Fundageek, unsourced.
  • The industry expects this to happen in 2013. - not about Fundageek, unsourced.
  • soft- -unnecessary, not explained, unsourced.
  • co-founders - minor clarification of something which seems obvious, but not problematical; unsourced; does not specify if there were others, but it didn't before, either. Uncontroversial.
  • Amulet → AMULET - promotional and directly against Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trademarks - unless it's an acronym, in which case it should be broken out, then & thereafter abbreviated.
  • Extension - minor clarification; unsourced. Uncontroversial.
  • author of three computer industry books - minor clarification which makes the phrase easily dated, not recommended for living subjects except frequently edited articles; unsourced.
  • served as technical - minor clarification; unsourced. Uncontroversial.
  • FundaGeek uses the "all or nothing" funding model adopted by many other crowdfunding sites. - promotional; can be read to imply that Fundageek was the first; unsourced. 'adopted by other crowdfunding sites' should be removed as irrelevant, unlesss Fundageek was first, and that's sourced.
  • This model only applies to commercial, for-profit projects. - unproveable generalization, likely to be at least one exception, which negates it unless covered and sourced; unsourced.
  • Commercial project campaigns must reach their goal amount by the end of the campaign period in order to get any funding. unproveable generalization, likely to be at least one exception, which negates it unless covered and sourced; unsourced.
  • Funding for scientific research and community support projects, on the other hand, receive whatever funding the project has attracted by the end of the campaign period. - generalization, likely true; unsourced. Uncontroversial.
  • on FundaGeek - minor clarification; incidentally promotional; unsourced. Uncontroversial.
  • at the end of the campaign period - 'by' might be more exact; minor clarification; unsourced. Uncontroversial.
  • initiates a process whereby PayPal processes all pledge transactions. - not about Fundageek; overly detailed; info like this should be on Fundageek's website, as subject to change; unsourced.
  • At this time the project owner receives the project funding in the PayPal verified account associated with the FundaGeek account, less PayPal's processing fee (2-3%) and FundaGeek's fee of either - 'at such time' or 'at that time' might be more exact; overly detailed, as above; unsourced.
  • for Standard Marketing Resources, or 9% for Premium Marketing Resources. - same

The article has one external source as a reference; if more are not added, it risks 1) being speedily deleted if edited to be too promotional, 2) proposed for deletion where it would be deleted in week if not contested, or 3) listed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion (requires a full week discussion with possible extensions, and which looks like a vote, but is a discussion of policies). While additional sources likely exist which would result in keeping the article, articles are frequently deleted even years after creation.

All of that being said, the recommended course of action would be to read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, and post further sources to the article talk page. I'll additionally note there are minimal restictions on removing libelous or unsourced negative information, patent nonsense 'invented baldness!', or vandalism, but attempted ownership, disruptive editing, and edit warring may result in blocking or banning.

I would request you review your edits, compare the feedback above, and remove or self-revert the ones against policy. I will check back, on the chance you don't see this in a timely manner and make changes myself if needed. Dru of Id (talk) 18:35, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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