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Can '''Planned by''' be added as parameter? Or can we continue using "Created by" and "Developed by"?
Can '''Planned by''' be added as parameter? Or can we continue using "Created by" and "Developed by"?
The South Korean infobox has it and a lot of articles (TV series articles) use it. Manly, a planner is a production manager that oversees the production company and help it plan the work. He is not part of the production company or it is an entire different company that help plan everything before the production company start shooting. So far people have been using "Created by" and "Developed by" since there is no "Planned by". May question is, which is the correct parameter for this? [[User:CherryPie94|CherryPie94]] ([[User talk:CherryPie94|talk]])
The South Korean infobox has it and a lot of articles (TV series articles) use it. Manly, a planner is a production manager that oversees the production company and help it plan the work. He is not part of the production company or it is an entire different company that help plan everything before the production company start shooting. So far people have been using "Created by" and "Developed by" since there is no "Planned by". May question is, which is the correct parameter for this? [[User:CherryPie94|CherryPie94]] ([[User talk:CherryPie94|talk]])

== Released field not working ==

{{Infobox television
| show_name = A TV Show
| released = {{Start date|2019|10|24}}
| first_aired = <!-- {{Start date|2019|10|24}} -->
}}
The released field isn't displaying. See code and example.
<pre>
{{Infobox television
| show_name = A TV Show
| released = {{Start date|2019|10|24}}
| first_aired = <!-- {{Start date|2019|10|24}} -->
}}</pre>
But <code>first_aired</code> works fine. - [[User:X201|X201]] ([[User talk:X201|talk]]) 08:02, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
:You shouldn't be using both <code>first_aired</code> and <code>released</code>. This is a sort of error checking for the many articles where somebody puts a location in <code>released</code> instead of a date, which happens far too often
{{Infobox television
| show_name = A TV Show
| released = China
| first_aired = {{Start date|2019|10|24}}
}}
<pre>{{Infobox television
| show_name = A TV Show
| released = China
| first_aired = {{Start date|2019|10|24}}
}}</pre>

:: Just to elaborate on AussieLegend's answer from the code side: The way the code was setup as <code><nowiki>{{{first_aired|{{{released|}}}}}}</nowiki></code> which means that it checks if the {{para|first_aired}} parameter is used, and if it isn't, only then does it move on to check {{para|released}}. In your example, you used the field, and even-though the content of that field was empty, it still won't move on to the next field. I personally prefer the style of <code><nowiki>{{If empty |{{{first_aired|}}} |{{{released|}}} }}</nowiki></code> which means that it checks if the field is empty or not. As I wasn't the one who wrote that part of the code, I have no idea what was the reasoning behind that. --[[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 09:19, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
Being used to numerous other templates that use <code>If empty</code> I'd assumed this would do the same. Perhaps we need to rethink the copy and paste version of the template on the Documentation page. e.g.
<pre>
| released = <!-- {{Start date|YYYY|MM|DD}} -->
| first_aired = <!-- {{Start date|YYYY|MM|DD}} -->
</pre>
Users will copy and paste that without knowing that any text in the one field will cause the other to not display. - [[User:X201|X201]] ([[User talk:X201|talk]]) 10:57, 24 October 2019 (UTC)


== State of the series ==
== State of the series ==

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Planning

Can Planned by be added as parameter? Or can we continue using "Created by" and "Developed by"? The South Korean infobox has it and a lot of articles (TV series articles) use it. Manly, a planner is a production manager that oversees the production company and help it plan the work. He is not part of the production company or it is an entire different company that help plan everything before the production company start shooting. So far people have been using "Created by" and "Developed by" since there is no "Planned by". May question is, which is the correct parameter for this? CherryPie94 (talk)

State of the series

Hello! Is it possible to add a parameter concerning the state of the series. It should denote which situation the series is in. If it is in production or cancelled. It is important for those who are interested in the series in general. Status should denote which situation the series is in. It can be of importance for the followers of the series. --88.89.14.37 (talk) 14:09, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Choreographer

Could a parameter for choreographer be added? Some shows have a significant amount of dancing or dance numbers, and the choreographer is really of interest in those cases. Schazjmd (talk) 00:30, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Schazjmd: Hey there, just a friendly note that it might be helpful to other editors who might be interested in scope if you could provide some examples of shows that might need this parameter as well as maybe expanding a bit on how prolific those shows might be in whatever culture you are referring to. As someone who usually polices Indian film and TV articles, I can sometimes see the need for other parameters that might be more specific to non-western-style TV. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:04, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Some examples of current articles where the choreographer parameter would be useful are Glee, Zoey's Extraordinary Playlist, Smash (TV series), Cop Rock, Soundtrack, and Crazy Ex-Girlfriend. Schazjmd (talk) 14:34, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Producer section

This section either shouldn't be present or should be overhauled, at least for US TV. Unlike in film, 'Producer' is not a particularly notable position in US TV, and the vast majority of the time it refers to medium-ranking writers, who exist below EPs, Co-EPs and Supervising Producers in the hierarchy - the latter two obviously not being included in the template as it exists. The exception to this are people who get a 'Produced by' credit. 115.70.7.33 (talk) 04:31, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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