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Can Planned by be added as parameter? Or can we continue using "Created by" and "Developed by"? The South Korean infobox has it and a lot of articles (TV series articles) use it. Manly, a planner is a production manager that oversees the production company and help it plan the work. He is not part of the production company or it is an entire different company that help plan everything before the production company start shooting. So far people have been using "Created by" and "Developed by" since there is no "Planned by". May question is, which is the correct parameter for this? CherryPie94 (talk)

Hi, should we be listing series that have had a few years gap and have come back as a revived format. For example Dancing on Ice finished in 2014 but then returned in 2018, so should we list the start and end dates separately? MSalmon (talk) 20:04, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The start date is the first date that the first ever episode aired. The end date is the first date that the last ever episode aired if the program has ended. If the series is still airing, which includes revived series, then the end date in the infobox is "present". This has previously been discussed and is in the instructions for the infobox. Your most recent edit to the Dancing on Ice infobox was quite correct. --AussieLegend (✉) 20:34, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What if the show has had a name change i.e. The Million Pound Drop to The £100K Drop MSalmon (talk) 20:54, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please add to the top:

   {{redirect|T:ITV|the ITV navbox|Template:ITV}}

or the template namespace equivalent. Because this template lists T:ITV as a shortcut while {{ITV}} is its own template. —67.14.236.193 (talk) 06:48, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think it is generally better to add things like this to the documentation. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:19, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: - Shortcuts are added to the documentation as indicated by MSGJ and there is already a shortcut at the top of the documentation subpage. There is therefore no need for a shortcut in the template itself. --AussieLegend (✉) 17:09, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The country or region a show merely happened to air in first is incidental information, and has absolutely nothing to do with the actual production of the show.

It also confuses readers because there are no other fields referring to this one, e.g. first_network. (And I would certainly oppose introducing any, for both trivia and size reasons.) Modernponderer (talk) 11:36, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Most TV programs first air in the country of origin, i.e. where the program is filmed and/or produced. However, there are some programs where the program is produced in one country but then first airs in another country. Indeed, many US TV programs have aired in Canada the day before it aired in the US. The country where the program first airs generally determines the air dates in the episode lists so this needs to be identified, which is why first_run exists. It's not trivial at all. --AussieLegend (✉) 11:44, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Support removal. I was actually looking at that parameter yesterday and it really seemed out of place. Regarding AussieLegend's comment, no reader unfamiler with what you just said will understand that from that parameter. If the episode tables need clarification of something, then one of the {{Efn}} templates should be used on those tables. Unrelated side note: I believe that |country= would better fit in the Release section where this parameter is. --Gonnym (talk) 11:51, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]