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In response to a message left on my talk page per [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Family_Guy&oldid=prev&diff=785474872 an edit] to [[Family Guy]] regarding aspect ratios that, "The picture_format field should be 'the video or film format in which the show is or was originally recorded or broadcast'. Aspect ratios are not a video format." I vehemently disagree, the field is "picture format", not "video format", and there aren't any clear guidelines about what to include and what to exclude. The vast precedent is to include aspect ratio in the technical specs as nearly all shows have that information in their specs. Guideline should be updated to address this. --[[User:Shivertimbers433|Shivertimbers433]] ([[User talk:Shivertimbers433|talk]]) 19:37, 13 June 2017 (UTC) |
In response to a message left on my talk page per [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Family_Guy&oldid=prev&diff=785474872 an edit] to [[Family Guy]] regarding aspect ratios that, "The picture_format field should be 'the video or film format in which the show is or was originally recorded or broadcast'. Aspect ratios are not a video format." I vehemently disagree, the field is "picture format", not "video format", and there aren't any clear guidelines about what to include and what to exclude. The vast precedent is to include aspect ratio in the technical specs as nearly all shows have that information in their specs. Guideline should be updated to address this. --[[User:Shivertimbers433|Shivertimbers433]] ([[User talk:Shivertimbers433|talk]]) 19:37, 13 June 2017 (UTC) |
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:There is no such precedent and "most" articles do not include aspect ratios. In any case, [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]] applies. Just because editors who don't understand formats have done so in some articles doesn't mean that it should be done in all articles. As I wrote on your talk page, the infobox instructions say {{tq|the <code>picture_format</code> field should be "the video or film format in which the show is or was originally recorded or broadcast".}} Also as I wrote, [[aspect ratio]]s are not a format, they are simply the ratio between width and height of an image. A TV program originally recorded with a 4:3 aspect ratio can be broadcast with a 16:9 ratio by adding side borders. Videos recorded in any format are not locked to a specific [[display aspect ratio]]s, with limited exceptions like [[720p]], which specifies a 16:9 aspect ratio as part of the format. Examples of appropriate formats are listed in the template instructions - {{tq|[[Black and white]], [[Film]], [[405-line]], [[NTSC]] ([[480i]]), [[PAL]] ([[576i]]), [[SECAM]] ([[576i]]), [[HDTV]] [[720p]], [[HDTV]] [[1080i]]. Do not use "[[SDTV]]" as it is ambiguous.}} [[1080i]], for example, is a video format that "assumes a [[widescreen]] [[Aspect ratio (image)|aspect ratio]] of [[16:9]]" but the aspect ratio is not part of the format. --[[User:AussieLegend|'''<span style="color:#008751;">Aussie</span><span style="color:#fcd116;">Legend</span>''']] ([[User talk:AussieLegend#top|<big>✉</big>]]) 19:57, 13 June 2017 (UTC) |
:There is no such precedent and "most" articles do not include aspect ratios. In any case, [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]] applies. Just because editors who don't understand formats have done so in some articles doesn't mean that it should be done in all articles. As I wrote on your talk page, the infobox instructions say {{tq|the <code>picture_format</code> field should be "the video or film format in which the show is or was originally recorded or broadcast".}} Also as I wrote, [[aspect ratio]]s are not a format, they are simply the ratio between width and height of an image. A TV program originally recorded with a 4:3 aspect ratio can be broadcast with a 16:9 ratio by adding side borders. Videos recorded in any format are not locked to a specific [[display aspect ratio]]s, with limited exceptions like [[720p]], which specifies a 16:9 aspect ratio as part of the format. Examples of appropriate formats are listed in the template instructions - {{tq|[[Black and white]], [[Film]], [[405-line]], [[NTSC]] ([[480i]]), [[PAL]] ([[576i]]), [[SECAM]] ([[576i]]), [[HDTV]] [[720p]], [[HDTV]] [[1080i]]. Do not use "[[SDTV]]" as it is ambiguous.}} [[1080i]], for example, is a video format that "assumes a [[widescreen]] [[Aspect ratio (image)|aspect ratio]] of [[16:9]]" but the aspect ratio is not part of the format. --[[User:AussieLegend|'''<span style="color:#008751;">Aussie</span><span style="color:#fcd116;">Legend</span>''']] ([[User talk:AussieLegend#top|<big>✉</big>]]) 19:57, 13 June 2017 (UTC) |
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::I had a discussion with Shiver regarding this on [[Talk:Stranger Things#Tech specs]]. I agree with AussieLegend and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AInfobox_television%2Fdoc&type=revision&diff=785485350&oldid=781461462 this addition] they made to the documentation on the fact that aspect ratios should not be noted (unless there is something unique/notable in regards to the aspect ratio they are using ie ''[[The Hateful Eight]]'', despite that being a film). - [[User:Favre1fan93|Favre1fan93]] ([[User talk:Favre1fan93|talk]]) 03:55, 14 June 2017 (UTC) |
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Maybe this is a case where British and American English differ???
I see num_series and "number of series" used. I keep stopping at that. Shouldn't it be "number of seasons"? Schissel | Sound the Note! 16:36, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
- The parameters "num_seasons" and "num_series" both exist. Per the description: "The number of seasons (US) or series (UK) produced. Use one or the other, not both." -- AlexTW 16:39, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation and your patience- I should have read farther in the instructions, of course, sorry! Schissel | Sound the Note! 00:59, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
Website
Someone can explain to me why in the parameter only the link is seen, but not the text "website".--Philip J Fry Talk to me 00:25, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
- Codename Lisa (talk · contribs) made this edit recently, to display infobox URLs when printing. I see the validity in this, but I'm not aware of a guideline or policy that states this, especially given that almost no other URL (references, external links, etc.) in an article would be printable. -- AlexTW 00:44, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
- Hi, AlexTheWhovian. I didn't do it because a policy forced me. A good idea needs no justification beyond the fact that it is a good idea. Of course, in this certain case, in accordance to WP:EDITCONSENSUS, this certain edit of mine is taken to have consensus support because this is general practice in Wikipedia. 181,907 articles are already doing this.
- But there indeed is a guideline: MOS:WEBADDR.
- Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 10:35, 23 May 2017 (UTC)- I would like this problem to be solved, as it is strange to see a loose URL in the infobox, I would prefer to see the text "website" instead.--Philip J Fry Talk to me 10:45, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Philip J Fry: Can you please show me an example, so I can better understand about what you are talking? —Codename Lisa (talk) 11:17, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
- As seen here. In the "External links" part of the infobox.--Philip J Fry Talk to me 11:21, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
- I can see both the text "website" and the printer-friendly link. —Codename Lisa (talk) 11:23, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
- I think what Philip J Fry is referring to is that previously, instead of the actual URL being visible, it said "Website" for the link name. I believe you're referring to the text "website" as the parameter name in the infobox. I just think, TV editors have been accustomed for it to say "Website" as the link name in the infobox, so it comes off as a bit odd-looking; just need to get used to it. Drovethrughosts (talk) 15:06, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
- If they are not going to solve this problem, what is the meaning of this?.--Philip J Fry Talk 00:00, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
- I think what Philip J Fry is referring to is that previously, instead of the actual URL being visible, it said "Website" for the link name. I believe you're referring to the text "website" as the parameter name in the infobox. I just think, TV editors have been accustomed for it to say "Website" as the link name in the infobox, so it comes off as a bit odd-looking; just need to get used to it. Drovethrughosts (talk) 15:06, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
- I can see both the text "website" and the printer-friendly link. —Codename Lisa (talk) 11:23, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
- As seen here. In the "External links" part of the infobox.--Philip J Fry Talk to me 11:21, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Philip J Fry: Can you please show me an example, so I can better understand about what you are talking? —Codename Lisa (talk) 11:17, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
- I would like this problem to be solved, as it is strange to see a loose URL in the infobox, I would prefer to see the text "website" instead.--Philip J Fry Talk to me 10:45, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Aspect ratio
In response to a message left on my talk page per an edit to Family Guy regarding aspect ratios that, "The picture_format field should be 'the video or film format in which the show is or was originally recorded or broadcast'. Aspect ratios are not a video format." I vehemently disagree, the field is "picture format", not "video format", and there aren't any clear guidelines about what to include and what to exclude. The vast precedent is to include aspect ratio in the technical specs as nearly all shows have that information in their specs. Guideline should be updated to address this. --Shivertimbers433 (talk) 19:37, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
- There is no such precedent and "most" articles do not include aspect ratios. In any case, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS applies. Just because editors who don't understand formats have done so in some articles doesn't mean that it should be done in all articles. As I wrote on your talk page, the infobox instructions say
the
Also as I wrote, aspect ratios are not a format, they are simply the ratio between width and height of an image. A TV program originally recorded with a 4:3 aspect ratio can be broadcast with a 16:9 ratio by adding side borders. Videos recorded in any format are not locked to a specific display aspect ratios, with limited exceptions like 720p, which specifies a 16:9 aspect ratio as part of the format. Examples of appropriate formats are listed in the template instructions -picture_format
field should be "the video or film format in which the show is or was originally recorded or broadcast".Black and white, Film, 405-line, NTSC (480i), PAL (576i), SECAM (576i), HDTV 720p, HDTV 1080i. Do not use "SDTV" as it is ambiguous.
1080i, for example, is a video format that "assumes a widescreen aspect ratio of 16:9" but the aspect ratio is not part of the format. --AussieLegend (✉) 19:57, 13 June 2017 (UTC)- I had a discussion with Shiver regarding this on Talk:Stranger Things#Tech specs. I agree with AussieLegend and this addition they made to the documentation on the fact that aspect ratios should not be noted (unless there is something unique/notable in regards to the aspect ratio they are using ie The Hateful Eight, despite that being a film). - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:55, 14 June 2017 (UTC)