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Hello, I hope that I can understand. You could add a parameter that says "Slogan" for articles of soap operas. In the picture I put a screenshot for you to see what I mean. Take it from the article in wikipedia in Spanish. All operas have slogan, and I think it would be good to place in the template. And I say this only so that they are used in articles of telenovelas. Since operas are those most using the slogan. And it is not a method of advertising or something as well. Could you allow this parameter?.--McVeigh (talk) 02:24, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, didn't you already ask this question from your former identity, Damián80? There was no consensus for the change, and you gave up on the discussion because it no longer interested you. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:55, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No, but that was before, also at the time I had problems with some of the users who participated in the discussion. Why leave the discussion. Is that a case can not be another time is petition?.--McVeigh (talk) 03:39, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

For me, we're back to the idea that a slogan is nothing more than a tagline. Taglines are marketing gimmicks and not actually part of the name of the program. If it was, then it wouldn't be a slogan, it would be a subtitle. So, I'm not in favor of adding slogans to the infobox.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 03:46, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That is what is for you a motto?, in other wikipedias do not think the same. In the wikipedia in Spanish if you may and here not?. I know that the wikipedia in Spanish is another language and have different rules. But I don't understand what the problem of using "slogans" in this wikipedia. They are not a way to make widespread or advertising.--McVeigh (talk) 03:57, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see that anything has changed since the last discussion so I'm not convinced that there is any benefit in adding a field for slogans, or supporting their use in the infobox. --AussieLegend (✉) 04:18, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The motto/slogan/tagline serves no obvious purpose, and there is no reason to expand the infobox template to include something that is of unclear necessity, and that the vast majority of TV shows do not use. "My Heart is Yours: Although I did not expect it." What is the point? If the tagline is relevant, shouldn't it be addressed in the article somewhere? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:21, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ehmm, well I see not interested in proposing, so you earn well. But I am not going to leave the discussion, wait to see if more users are involved. Because the slogan could be used as subtitles, but in a different way.--McVeigh (talk) 04:25, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is really minor, but it seems there's two spaces inserted between the first aired parameter and the en dash. You can tell as you can highlight two spaces with your mouse between them. Drovethrughosts (talk) 16:49, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Should be fixed. -- [[User:Edokter]] {{talk}} 16:59, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to request that the "first_run" parameter be removed from this template per the recent WP:RFC and Wikipedia:Silence and consensus. Dogmaticeclectic (talk) 17:41, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you can take silence as consensus to remove it. You really need a firm consensus to remove parameters, as we had with format. RfC outcomes are not binding and, for the record, I'd disagree with its removal so there is no consensus to remove it. --AussieLegend (✉) 17:53, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}} template. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:56, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Wikipedia, I request that in the Infobox television that we add a Art Director because most animated shows have Art Directors more that Directors also Live Shows sometimes have Art Directors. 64.228.75.199 (talk) 20:43, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}} template. When making requests like this please link the discussion where the change was agreed. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:20, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

For a TV show that is airing on two networks (US and UK) very near to the same time (premiering within a week of each other) is it possible to have more than one official website in the infobox? And if so, what is the string? Entering 2 "website" and "website_title" merely displays the last one entered. Thanks Springhill40 (talk) 15:10, 31 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Springhill40: I don't believe so. You should have the website for which ever network is the "original" (ie where the production company first intended it to air), and then possibly put the second at the bottom of the article. Which show are you asking about? - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:18, 31 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm asking specifically for articles like those on the Hanna-Barbera programs like Scooby-Doo, Where are You! and the like. A number of TV shows and/or companies have changed hands multiple times over the years; should the "distributor" section of the infobox reflect the original company (in Scooby's case, Taft Broadcasting), the current distributor (Warner Bros. Television), or the enumerated list of all of the distributors over the years? Would it be better in these cases to simply list the first or last distributor and relegate everything else to prose in the article itself? --FuriousFreddy (talk) 18:38, 2 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say original. Distributors are straining importance at best anyway but it's not realistic to list every possible distributor, and many of them are just in single countries. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 21:16, 2 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking of other countries, we're only sticking to distributors in the country of origin in these infoboxes, correct? The Hanna-Barbera shows I'm speaking of would have no less than five American distributors over the years (Taft, Great American, Worldvision - a Taft subsidiary - Turner, and Warner Bros. The pre-1967 shows will also have Screen Gems as well). --FuriousFreddy (talk) 00:14, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I do not see a need for this parameter due to multiple distributor changes over the years for old programmes; that for many articles is probably out of date. REVUpminster (talk) 11:07, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hey all. The director parameter of this infobox is intended for people who are directing episodes, right? Like, behind the camera (live-action) or overseeing the storyboardng (animation)? That's my interpretation anyway. I keep seeing editors adding supervising directors, art directors, and other people with "director" in their titles to this parameter and I'm wondering if maybe the intention of the parameter isn't presented quite clear enough for these editors. Examples: [1], The Problem Solverz, Secret Mountain Fort Awesome Art directors seem to be more appropriately placed under creative_director. What about these other people with director titles? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:14, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your interpretation is correct. It should be blatantly obvious what is meant by the parameter. We have |director= and |creative_director=. If we wanted to list "supervising directors" we'd have a parameter called |supervising_director= but we don't! Note that, unlike |writer=, which is for "the show's writer or writers" (note use of plural form), "director" is for "the show's director" (singular). I've boldly tightened the wording for this parameter by adding a link. --AussieLegend (✉) 16:33, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The director aspect seemed obvious to me. I will admit that I didn't find the singular nature of |director= to be intuitive. Cartoons often cycle through directors during a season. Assuming it's a reasonable number of directors (5 max?) why wouldn't we list them as we would writers? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:13, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Is the purpose of |company= to list all the various sub-contractors who might have been involved in the literal, physical production of the series, or is it intended to list the main company/companies that funded the venture? For example at Avatar: The Last Airbender are Nickelodeon Animation Studios, DR Movie, JM Animation, MOI Animation, and a user recently added Titmouse because they produced the opening credit sequence. The scope is vague and needs clarification. And, does that mean under |country= we'd add United States, Korea, and Canada and adjust the lede accordingly? (i.e., "The Legend of Korra is an American—Korean—Canadian animated television series...) Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:35, 19 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion in Infobox film seems to be relevant here; it may be helpful. Raamin (talk) 23:22, 19 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've tended towards main companies only, because to list all of the subcontractors in the infobox would prove unwieldy for shows like Animaniacs that farmed out individual episodes to various studios across the planet. Unless the list is very, very short (i.e. A Pup Named Scooby-Doo, produced by Hanna-Barbera Productions who subcontracted to Wang Film Productions and Fil-Cartoons) It would be better to list the main companies in the infobox and discuss the subcontractors in the body of the article. --FuriousFreddy (talk) 22:32, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can an entry be added to the template for "Musical director" and/or "house band" which is a feature on many variety/talk shows? Downwoody (talk) 13:16, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]