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== Description {{Para|num_seasons}} and {{Para|num_episodes}} ==
== Description {{Para|num_seasons}} and {{Para|num_episodes}} ==
I find that the description of these should be changed from "produced" to "released". This comes up every once in a while and an [[Template talk:Infobox television/Archive 7#Number of episodes|old discussion from when the doc was changed (]] didn't really have an end. The main issue I have with produced is that it is the exception, it's often not sourced at all, and when sources are given these mostly don't talk about production but about the order they got. Very few sources state when shows have actually finished production, it's often mistaken for ending of filming and what about post-production? Going with episodes aired is much more streamlined and gets rid of the very few places that use produced. I would go with "released" rather than "aired" in case of unaired episodes which are released on DVD or online. Saying this, I have only seen a real issue about this at [[Dollhouse (TV series)|Dollhouse]] some time ago, the rest have always been based on production order rather than sourced information about the number of episodes produced. Basically the episodes released are used pretty much everywhere.&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Palatino;">[[User:Xeworlebi|'''<big><big><sub>X</sub></big></big>'''eworlebi]]&nbsp;<sup>([[User talk:Xeworlebi|talk]])</sup></span> 21:41, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
I find that the description of these should be changed from "produced" to "released". This comes up every once in a while and an [[Template talk:Infobox television/Archive 7#Number of episodes|old discussion from when the doc was changed (]] didn't really have an end. The main issue I have with produced is that it is the exception, it's often not sourced at all, and when sources are given these mostly don't talk about production but about the order they got. Very few sources state when shows have actually finished production, it's often mistaken for ending of filming and what about post-production? Going with episodes aired is much more streamlined and gets rid of the very few places that use produced. I would go with "released" rather than "aired" in case of unaired episodes which are released on DVD or online. Saying this, I have only seen a real issue about this at [[Dollhouse (TV series)|Dollhouse]] some time ago, the rest have always been based on production order rather than sourced information about the number of episodes produced. Basically the episodes released are used pretty much everywhere.&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Palatino;">[[User:Xeworlebi|'''<big><big><sub>X</sub></big></big>'''eworlebi]]&nbsp;<sup>([[User talk:Xeworlebi|talk]])</sup></span> 21:41, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

== Italicization of the show's name ==

When wiki italic marks are used in the show_name, the title of the article is not italicized.

:Article title italicized:
::<nowiki>| show_name = Show name</nowiki>

:Article title not italicized:
::<nowiki>| show_name = ''Show name''</nowiki>

Someone should clarify this and make a note or a comment on the Template page that including wiki italic marks for show_name ''does not'' italicize the article title. [[User:XP1|XP1]] ([[User talk:XP1|talk]]) 19:40, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

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Language

The infobox film template documentation specifies that Language not be a link and the infobox television template documentation specifies that a link should be used for the Language. It seems like they should agree. Here is the comment from the infobox film template documentation.

Note: inserting "English" will not automatically link to English language. This has been done intentionally because readers of the English Wikipedia are already familiar with the language and no benefit is added by placing a link to it. Please do not override this by inserting English.

76.179.180.74 (talk) 05:37, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Mike Allen 06:01, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

While indifferent to the matter, I'd like to bring up the template {{English}} which would become obsolete and depreciated if this goes through, I've brought this discussion up over there. Perhaps we could go with the same automatic linking as done in {{Infobox film}}, although I would assume that would require mass changes to current already manually linked parameters. Xeworlebi (talk) 09:29, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Format and Genre

Please look at the That '70s Show article and my comments on the Talk page. If you look at the very recent history of the Infobox for the article, you'll notice that it used to show the format as sitcom (or later period sitcom). I then looked at the template for what format means and found very little guidance. I also looked at the genre keyword in the template. I decided that sitcom must belong in genre (similar to comedy or drama-comedy, etc.), but if I'm wrong about that, please let me know. However, I'm still confused about what format means and the possible descriptions for the format parameter. More specifically, what is the format for That 70's Show?

Any help on format in particular, and genre, less so, would be appreciated.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:55, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rating parameter for the infobox?

I was just wondering... What if the infobox would also tell what the show is rated, be it TV-PG, TV-G, or TV-Y7-FV? Would that work?
~~LDEJRuff~~ (see what I've contributed) 19:32, 14 September 2010 (EDT)

What about other country ratings? Shouldn't they be added too? Mike Allen 00:42, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This comes up every ones in a while: Archive 1#Rating, Archive 5#Rating, Archive 9#RatingXeworlebi (talk) 09:03, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Image size

Can we "codify" the standard 250px width used for the intertitle images? Thumperward wants to change all the image sizes in favor of using frameless which would reduce its size everywhere from the currently 250px width. In the process can we adopt the different parameters (|image=, |image size=, |alt=) for the different image properties as done in other infoboxes (film, person, …)? Xeworlebi (talk) 09:39, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It wouldn't reduce the size in all cases: users who have changed their default thumbnail size would have the image scaled appropriately. Using frameless also means that images smaller than 250px are not upscaled (which is undesirable). {{infobox film}} already uses frameless, following the discussion at template talk: infobox film/Archive 17#Default image size. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward: not at work) - talk 09:52, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Status

Please indicate what the values for status should be. I'm guessing "cancelled" and "ongoing" or something like that but I'd appreciate clarification and if the template included a few specific examples it would make for greater consistency in articles. -- Horkana (talk) 01:51, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See: Template talk:Infobox television/Archive 11#Status parameter ? Xeworlebi (talk) 08:48, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Description |num_seasons= and |num_episodes=

I find that the description of these should be changed from "produced" to "released". This comes up every once in a while and an old discussion from when the doc was changed ( didn't really have an end. The main issue I have with produced is that it is the exception, it's often not sourced at all, and when sources are given these mostly don't talk about production but about the order they got. Very few sources state when shows have actually finished production, it's often mistaken for ending of filming and what about post-production? Going with episodes aired is much more streamlined and gets rid of the very few places that use produced. I would go with "released" rather than "aired" in case of unaired episodes which are released on DVD or online. Saying this, I have only seen a real issue about this at Dollhouse some time ago, the rest have always been based on production order rather than sourced information about the number of episodes produced. Basically the episodes released are used pretty much everywhere. Xeworlebi (talk) 21:41, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Italicization of the show's name

When wiki italic marks are used in the show_name, the title of the article is not italicized.

Article title italicized:
| show_name = Show name
Article title not italicized:
| show_name = ''Show name''

Someone should clarify this and make a note or a comment on the Template page that including wiki italic marks for show_name does not italicize the article title. XP1 (talk) 19:40, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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