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Since 25 March 2006 the Usage Guideline (now at Template:Infobox Television/doc) for this infobox has said "The number of episodes currently produced." for the num_episodes field. (Note, prior to 25 March 2006, the Guideline was either silent or unclear on the issue.)

I pointed this out an editor this morning. Shortly thereafter a second editor changed the Guideline to read "The number of episodes aired." Shortly after that, the first editor responded that I was mistaken (I.E. that the Guideline said the field should be episodes aired.)

I believe that the change made today should have been discussed. I also believe that the long standing guideline was correct; If a reliable source gives a number of episodes produced higher than the number of episodes aired the number produced should be used. An episode's existence is not dependent on it having aired yet. —MJBurrage^(T•C) 03:23, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the "aired" edit would be a better choice, as the long (long long)-standing practice has been to use aired episodes. It is just too unpredictable to use "produced", plus it creates issues with dates and other lists. --Ckatz^chat_spy 05:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What about a ep never aired but available in dvd box set? I think that should be included as well. I think it should be the number of ep's available to the public in any form, because until the public can watch it, it can't be considered cannon !DISCUSS! SomeoneE1se (talk) 09:03, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Canon." Though it usually isn't an issue, I think the distinction should be noted when a series has a different number of broadcast episodes vs produced episodes. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 09:54, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another oddity if we were to use "episodes aired" rather than "episodes produced" would be the many current series were the episode list (section or page) lists all known episodes produced, which would be more than the aired number. So the entry might read "4 (list of episodes)" but anyone clicking on the link can see a table detailing 12 episodes known to be produced so far. In this case there are 12 episodes, eight have just not been seen publically yet (but they do exist). If we have a valid source for the production list, than we have a valid source for the episodes existence; and the example should read "12 (list of episodes)". The list's airdates would answer any questions vis-a-vis number of aired episodes. —MJBurrage^(T•C) 11:15, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2008 August 19#Template:Infobox kdrama, it looks like there's a number of templates which are almost redundant to this one, except that they include a field for the foreign language name of the show (ie: Japanese, Korean, etc); one user suggested adding such a parameter, here, so that the templates can be merged. Is show_name_2 a suitable option, currently? If not, how else could we resolve this? – Luna Santin (talk) 17:36, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea. What field-names are used on other such templates? Andy Mabbett | Talk to Andy Mabbett 17:39, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is this something that will get fixed, or is it just a little joke that comes around every year on this date? -- Mufka ^{(u) (t) (c)} 15:16, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Something else is the cause. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 15:59, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I feel that the "director" parameter should be in the "production" group of parameters as directors are part of the production team. How about it?. Mythdon (talk) 09:31, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I feel, that as a better style, the "original run" should show with an unspaced em dash, like:

September 21, 2008—present

instead of the spaced en dash currently:

September 21, 2008 – present

Any agreers?. — ^{`</sup>CRAZY`(lN)`SANE<sup>`} 00:47, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. I feel the "—" should not be used on this infobox as "-" works very well. If we used "—" and included no space, the dates would be squished. If we were going to use "—", then I suggest we still include the spaces. Mythdon (talk) 06:25, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

I would like to highlight a discrepancy. The transclusion that is shown on the Template:Infobox Television is different from the actual documentation in Template:Infobox Television/doc. I wonder what is the reason so.--Tjmj (talk) 08:47, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]