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Please see [[User_talk:Arcadian#Template:DiseaseDisorder_infobox]]. If this box is going to be used, I will support a limited form that gives easy access to ICD codes, but I oppose the "cause", "diagnosis", "treatment", "incidence", "prevalence". The information in these fields is often very subtle, has regional variation and would be almost impossible to reference from this box. [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 23:18, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC) |
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== Template-protected edit request on 21 April 2017 == |
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:For psychiatric diagnoses, I would advocate a box that includes the DSM code in addition to the ICD. [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 23:18, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC) |
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== Infobox == |
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The page [[Thrombocytopenia]] starts with a plain wikilink to the category [[:Category:Pages with Infobox medical condition using multiple parameters for one]]. I presume that you actually want to add the article to that category, and so the colon at the start of the wikilink in this template's code should be removed. [[User:GKFX]]<sup>[[User talk:GKFX|talk]]</sup> 22:15, 21 April 2017 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ETp --> [[User:Ahecht|Ahecht]] ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:50%;text-align:center;"><b>TALK<br />PAGE</b></span>]]) 02:58, 22 April 2017 (UTC) |
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== Template-protected edit request on 15 August 2017 == |
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Concerning [[template:DiseaseDisorder infobox]]: |
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* Shall we move it to a shorter name? |
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* In the boxes you placed, each one says "hypoglycemia" |
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* Are we using ICD-9 codes (as you have done) or ICD-10 ones? |
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[[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 5 July 2005 14:39 (UTC) |
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Consensus [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine/Archive_97#Infobox_update_April_2017|here]] has depreciated this template, in favour of [[template:Infobox medical condition (new)]] in combination with [[template:medical resources]]. Please add {{strong|<nowiki>{{Deprecated template|Infobox medical condition|Infobox medical condition (new)|note=For adding classification data, see [[template:medical resources]]|date=August 2017}}</nowiki>}} if deemed appropriate. [[User:Little pob|Little pob]] ([[User talk:Little pob|talk]]) 12:21, 15 August 2017 (UTC) |
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:What is the transition process? How do I actually replace it with the new one? Parameter-replacements? -[[User:DePiep|DePiep]] ([[User talk:DePiep|talk]]) 19:35, 15 August 2017 (UTC) |
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::Last I read a bot was being proposed to automate the transition to the new infobox? However, the deprecated tag is for the template page, not the infobox itself. It may have been clearer if I had provided the WL to [[Template:Deprecated_template]] also, as it has an example at the top. [[User:Little pob|Little pob]] ([[User talk:Little pob|talk]]) 07:35, 16 August 2017 (UTC) |
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:::Updating is going to be a slow and gradual process. I have done 500 or so. |
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:::We have a tool that speeds up the conversion but it is still manual. More work is required before it can be automated. |
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:::You add this to your common.js |
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:::::<nowiki>importScript("User:Ladsgroup/RefCleaner.js");</nowiki> |
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:::[[User:Doc James|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Doc James|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Doc James|email]]) 21:17, 16 August 2017 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Pictogram voting comment.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Note:'''<!-- Template:ETp --> Given that the main protagonist in this change {{u|Doc James}} has passed on making the change, and nobody else has taken it up in 2 weeks, I'll mark it as answered. I think marking a template as deprecated while it's still in use on 6500 pages would taint too many pages for too long. {{u|Little pob}}, some kind of comment on the [[Template:Infobox medical condition/doc|doc page]] indicating its deprecated state and where to find the new preferred template seems more appropriate at this stage. Regards, [[User:Cabayi|Cabayi]] ([[User talk:Cabayi|talk]]) 09:55, 28 August 2017 (UTC) |
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::Added to /doc. Template {{tlf|Deprecated template|Infobox medical condition}} must be added to the documentation page, and so will not appear in mainspace. It does not alter any working of the tempalte, it's just documentation text. (BTW, that page is not protected and so does not formally need an {{tlf|edit template-protected}} request). -[[User:DePiep|DePiep]] ([[User talk:DePiep|talk]]) 10:44, 28 August 2017 (UTC) |
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== Please use HTTPS for the Patient UK (patient.info) link == |
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Per your questions: (1) "Shall we move it to a shorter name?" I wouldn't have a problem with moving it to a shorter name. I've seen lots of arguments about whether something was a disease or a disorder, and my goal was just to sidestep the argument by explictly incorporating both elements into the name. But if you wanted to move it to a new name, I wouldn't object. (2) "In the boxes you placed, each one says hypoglycemia". I apologize for my error. I was copying over the template, and forgot to substitute the name. It looks like you have already fixed this, and I thank you for doing so. (3) "Are we using ICD-9 codes (as you have done) or ICD-10 ones?" I see you have updated the template already, so that issue appears moot. I'll try to create a page [[List of ICD-10 codes]], parallel to [[List of ICD-9 codes]]. Before I do so, do you know if 10 is free for us to use, and if there is a good site for us to get these codes? I know we had clearance on 9, per [[Talk:International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems]]. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 5 July 2005 15:13 (UTC) |
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The purpose of this edit is to provide increased privacy and security for users by having the template use HTTPS when generating links to Patient UK. (As a side note, a previous comment states that the template is deprecated; however, it appears that there are still [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&limit=500&target=Template%3AInfobox+medical+condition&namespace= many pages] on which the template is used.) In particular, it appears that URLs of the form <code><nowiki>http://patient.info/doctor/xxxxxx</nowiki></code> generate a [[HTTP 301|301 Moved Permanently]] redirect to <code><nowiki>https://patient.info/doctor/xxxxxx</nowiki></code> which in some cases is followed by a subsequent 301 redirect to another HTTPS URL. For example, http://patient.info/doctor/Body-Dysmorphic-Disorder-(BDD) generates a 301 redirect to https://patient.info/doctor/Body-Dysmorphic-Disorder-(BDD) which then generates a 301 redirect to https://patient.info/doctor/body-dysmorphic-disorder-pro. In the template, please change <code><nowiki>http://patient.info/doctor/</nowiki></code> to <code><nowiki>https://patient.info/doctor/</nowiki></code> instead. Thanks. --[[User:Elegie|Elegie]] ([[User talk:Elegie|talk]]) 10:33, 22 August 2017 (UTC) |
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:{{Done}}, @{{U|Elegie}}. -- [[User:CFCF|<span style="color:#014225;font-family: sans-serif;">Carl Fredrik</span>]]<span style="font-size: .90em;">[[User talk:CFCF|<sup> talk</sup>]]</span> 10:43, 22 August 2017 (UTC) |
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Also went ahead and did it one the [[Template:Medical resources]] that replaces this template. [[User:CFCF|<span style="color:#014225;font-family: sans-serif;">Carl Fredrik</span>]]<span style="font-size: .90em;">[[User talk:CFCF|<sup> talk</sup>]]</span> 10:44, 22 August 2017 (UTC) |
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== Possible fix for broken eMedicine search link == |
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:I cannot possibly imagine there would be restrictions of ''referencing'' to ICD-10 codes. There may be copyright issues on republishing the WHOLE list, which we may need to settle. All large health organisations use ICD-10 for coding, so I shouldn't think there would be a problem in using it. |
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:Strictly speaking, do you think the box needs at the top? I'm open to persuation either way, but many articles have images at the top that would be cluttered with a box. On the other hand: where else would we put it? [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 5 July 2005 19:24 (UTC) |
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At the current time, the template has the ability to generate a link for doing a search on eMedicine. If the search query is <code><nowiki>infection</nowiki></code>, for example, the URL for the search link would be http://search.medscape.com/emedicine-search?queryText=infection. However, it appears that search URLs of this format are broken; accessing such a URL generates a series of redirects that eventually lead to the URL <code><nowiki>https://search.medscape.com/search/?</nowiki></code> on the Medscape site and no search results are shown. It appears that it is possible to do a search on the Medscape site by using the URL https://search.medscape.com/search/?q=XXXX where XXXX is the search query term(s), though it is not clear as to whether all of the search results are specific to eMedicine. Would it be useful to change the template to use this URL format for doing eMedicine searches? --[[User:Elegie|Elegie]] ([[User talk:Elegie|talk]]) 11:18, 24 February 2018 (UTC) |
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For your question about should the infobox be on top -- I don't have a problem if it isn't at the top. On the other hand, if your concerns was that it would conflict with other pages that have an image near the top, then we could incorporate a location for the image directly into the template. This could help provide a more consistent interface for the diseases. For example, this is what is done with albums (see [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_%28album%29#Track_listing]].) --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 6 July 2005 20:31 (UTC) |
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== Error in template == |
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Per the 9/10 issue -- how would you feel if we added a second line to the template, so that we could store both the 9 and 10 code. The 9 codes are still commonly used in the United States, and we also have a more explicit release to use them than we have for the 10 codes. Also, another user left a message objecting to 10-centric (?) orientation at [[Talk:International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems]] (scroll to bottom). We could address this by adding another line to the template, and in a few years, if 9 codes become fully deprecated, then we could update all the disease pages at once just by updating the template. Any thoughts/objections? --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 6 July 2005 20:31 (UTC) |
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It seems that the template creates the following error for all instances now: |
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:Sounds OK [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 6 July 2005 20:42 (UTC) |
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Lua error in package.lua at line 80: module 'Module:I18n/date' not found. |
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: It is now fixed it seems [[User:Hervegirod|Hervegirod]] ([[User talk:Hervegirod|talk]]) 21:45, 8 September 2018 (UTC) |
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== Move discussion in progress == |
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::Ok, I've updated the template to include both 9 and 10, and fixed the linked pages where I had the codes (I have a source for 9 but not for 10, so I left those blank for now.) For the image idea -- I'll give people a week or so to object, and if nobody does, then I'll put that in. Thanks again for your assistance and guidance. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 6 July 2005 21:06 (UTC) |
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==&nbsp; instead of whitespace== |
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I have put &nbsp; instead of whitespace in '''ICD-9/10 code:''' because it tends to get broken into two lines if the text on the right hand side is sufficiently long (e.g. see [[Auditory processing disorder]]). Looks good to me now but feel free to revert if there's any trouble with this layout. [[User:GregorB|GregorB]] 21:55, August 27, 2005 (UTC) |
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* Looks great! Thanks for the improvement Gregor! --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 22:26, 27 August 2005 (UTC) |
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== Symptoms/Signs == |
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Please do not put ICD boxes on pages just dealing with a symptom[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ataxia&diff=22595964&oldid=21576119]. This creates confusion and adds very little information. [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 06:26, 5 September 2005 (UTC) |
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: I have created the [[Template:SignSymptom infobox]] to address your concerns. The ICD codes do add valuable information -- see the sections [[List_of_ICD-9_codes#16._Symptoms.2C_signs.2C_and_ill-defined_conditions_.28780-799.29|ICD 9 signs/symptoms]] and [[List_of_ICD-10_codes#R00-R99_-_Symptoms.2C_signs_and_abnormal_clinical_and_laboratory_findings.2C_not_elsewhere_classified|ICD 10 signs/symptoms]]. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 15:24, 5 September 2005 (UTC) |
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This discussion is continuing at the [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Clinical medicine|WikiProject Clinical medicine]]. [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 22:23, 5 September 2005 (UTC) |
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==User JFW has expressed the following three concerns== |
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===Process=== |
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* Should each infobox be discussed here before adding it to the page, or should we add them to the page and then improve them incrementally? --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 00:36, 6 September 2005 (UTC) |
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===Diseases/Disorders vs. Signs/Symptoms=== |
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* How should we handle conditions like [[Ataxia]], which can be both diseases and signs? --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 00:36, 6 September 2005 (UTC) |
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===Ranges=== |
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* How should we handle conditions like [[Leukemia]], which is not a single disease with a single code but covers the ICD-10 range from C91-C95? --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 00:36, 6 September 2005 (UTC) |
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Template-protected edit request on 21 April 2017
The page Thrombocytopenia starts with a plain wikilink to the category Category:Pages with Infobox medical condition using multiple parameters for one. I presume that you actually want to add the article to that category, and so the colon at the start of the wikilink in this template's code should be removed. User:GKFXtalk 22:15, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 15 August 2017
Consensus here has depreciated this template, in favour of template:Infobox medical condition (new) in combination with template:medical resources. Please add {{Deprecated template|Infobox medical condition|Infobox medical condition (new)|note=For adding classification data, see [[template:medical resources]]|date=August 2017}} if deemed appropriate. Little pob (talk) 12:21, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- What is the transition process? How do I actually replace it with the new one? Parameter-replacements? -DePiep (talk) 19:35, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- Last I read a bot was being proposed to automate the transition to the new infobox? However, the deprecated tag is for the template page, not the infobox itself. It may have been clearer if I had provided the WL to Template:Deprecated_template also, as it has an example at the top. Little pob (talk) 07:35, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
- Updating is going to be a slow and gradual process. I have done 500 or so.
- We have a tool that speeds up the conversion but it is still manual. More work is required before it can be automated.
- You add this to your common.js
- importScript("User:Ladsgroup/RefCleaner.js");
- Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:17, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
- Last I read a bot was being proposed to automate the transition to the new infobox? However, the deprecated tag is for the template page, not the infobox itself. It may have been clearer if I had provided the WL to Template:Deprecated_template also, as it has an example at the top. Little pob (talk) 07:35, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
Note: Given that the main protagonist in this change Doc James has passed on making the change, and nobody else has taken it up in 2 weeks, I'll mark it as answered. I think marking a template as deprecated while it's still in use on 6500 pages would taint too many pages for too long. Little pob, some kind of comment on the doc page indicating its deprecated state and where to find the new preferred template seems more appropriate at this stage. Regards, Cabayi (talk) 09:55, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
- Added to /doc. Template {{Deprecated template|Infobox medical condition}} must be added to the documentation page, and so will not appear in mainspace. It does not alter any working of the tempalte, it's just documentation text. (BTW, that page is not protected and so does not formally need an {{edit template-protected}} request). -DePiep (talk) 10:44, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
Please use HTTPS for the Patient UK (patient.info) link
The purpose of this edit is to provide increased privacy and security for users by having the template use HTTPS when generating links to Patient UK. (As a side note, a previous comment states that the template is deprecated; however, it appears that there are still many pages on which the template is used.) In particular, it appears that URLs of the form http://patient.info/doctor/xxxxxx
generate a 301 Moved Permanently redirect to https://patient.info/doctor/xxxxxx
which in some cases is followed by a subsequent 301 redirect to another HTTPS URL. For example, http://patient.info/doctor/Body-Dysmorphic-Disorder-(BDD) generates a 301 redirect to https://patient.info/doctor/Body-Dysmorphic-Disorder-(BDD) which then generates a 301 redirect to https://patient.info/doctor/body-dysmorphic-disorder-pro. In the template, please change http://patient.info/doctor/
to https://patient.info/doctor/
instead. Thanks. --Elegie (talk) 10:33, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Done, @Elegie. -- Carl Fredrik talk 10:43, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Also went ahead and did it one the Template:Medical resources that replaces this template. Carl Fredrik talk 10:44, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Possible fix for broken eMedicine search link
At the current time, the template has the ability to generate a link for doing a search on eMedicine. If the search query is infection
, for example, the URL for the search link would be http://search.medscape.com/emedicine-search?queryText=infection. However, it appears that search URLs of this format are broken; accessing such a URL generates a series of redirects that eventually lead to the URL https://search.medscape.com/search/?
on the Medscape site and no search results are shown. It appears that it is possible to do a search on the Medscape site by using the URL https://search.medscape.com/search/?q=XXXX where XXXX is the search query term(s), though it is not clear as to whether all of the search results are specific to eMedicine. Would it be useful to change the template to use this URL format for doing eMedicine searches? --Elegie (talk) 11:18, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
Error in template
It seems that the template creates the following error for all instances now:
Lua error in package.lua at line 80: module 'Module:I18n/date' not found.
- It is now fixed it seems Hervegirod (talk) 21:45, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress
There is a move discussion in progress on Template talk:Infobox medical condition (new) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 21:16, 3 June 2019 (UTC)