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Please see [[User_talk:Arcadian#Template:DiseaseDisorder_infobox]]. If this box is going to be used, I will support a limited form that gives easy access to ICD codes, but I oppose the "cause", "diagnosis", "treatment", "incidence", "prevalence". The information in these fields is often very subtle, has regional variation and would be almost impossible to reference from this box. [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 23:18, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC) |
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== Template-protected edit request on 21 April 2017 == |
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:For psychiatric diagnoses, I would advocate a box that includes the DSM code in addition to the ICD. [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 23:18, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC) |
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== Infobox == |
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The page [[Thrombocytopenia]] starts with a plain wikilink to the category [[:Category:Pages with Infobox medical condition using multiple parameters for one]]. I presume that you actually want to add the article to that category, and so the colon at the start of the wikilink in this template's code should be removed. [[User:GKFX]]<sup>[[User talk:GKFX|talk]]</sup> 22:15, 21 April 2017 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ETp --> [[User:Ahecht|Ahecht]] ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:50%;text-align:center;"><b>TALK<br />PAGE</b></span>]]) 02:58, 22 April 2017 (UTC) |
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== Template-protected edit request on 15 August 2017 == |
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Concerning [[template:DiseaseDisorder infobox]]: |
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* Shall we move it to a shorter name? |
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* In the boxes you placed, each one says "hypoglycemia" |
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* Are we using ICD-9 codes (as you have done) or ICD-10 ones? |
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{{edit template-protected|Template:Infobox medical condition|ans=y}} |
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[[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 5 July 2005 14:39 (UTC) |
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Consensus [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine/Archive_97#Infobox_update_April_2017|here]] has depreciated this template, in favour of [[template:Infobox medical condition (new)]] in combination with [[template:medical resources]]. Please add {{strong|<nowiki>{{Deprecated template|Infobox medical condition|Infobox medical condition (new)|note=For adding classification data, see [[template:medical resources]]|date=August 2017}}</nowiki>}} if deemed appropriate. [[User:Little pob|Little pob]] ([[User talk:Little pob|talk]]) 12:21, 15 August 2017 (UTC) |
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:What is the transition process? How do I actually replace it with the new one? Parameter-replacements? -[[User:DePiep|DePiep]] ([[User talk:DePiep|talk]]) 19:35, 15 August 2017 (UTC) |
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::Last I read a bot was being proposed to automate the transition to the new infobox? However, the deprecated tag is for the template page, not the infobox itself. It may have been clearer if I had provided the WL to [[Template:Deprecated_template]] also, as it has an example at the top. [[User:Little pob|Little pob]] ([[User talk:Little pob|talk]]) 07:35, 16 August 2017 (UTC) |
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:::Updating is going to be a slow and gradual process. I have done 500 or so. |
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:::We have a tool that speeds up the conversion but it is still manual. More work is required before it can be automated. |
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:::You add this to your common.js |
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:::::<nowiki>importScript("User:Ladsgroup/RefCleaner.js");</nowiki> |
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:::[[User:Doc James|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Doc James|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Doc James|email]]) 21:17, 16 August 2017 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Pictogram voting comment.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Note:'''<!-- Template:ETp --> Given that the main protagonist in this change {{u|Doc James}} has passed on making the change, and nobody else has taken it up in 2 weeks, I'll mark it as answered. I think marking a template as deprecated while it's still in use on 6500 pages would taint too many pages for too long. {{u|Little pob}}, some kind of comment on the [[Template:Infobox medical condition/doc|doc page]] indicating its deprecated state and where to find the new preferred template seems more appropriate at this stage. Regards, [[User:Cabayi|Cabayi]] ([[User talk:Cabayi|talk]]) 09:55, 28 August 2017 (UTC) |
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::Added to /doc. Template {{tlf|Deprecated template|Infobox medical condition}} must be added to the documentation page, and so will not appear in mainspace. It does not alter any working of the tempalte, it's just documentation text. (BTW, that page is not protected and so does not formally need an {{tlf|edit template-protected}} request). -[[User:DePiep|DePiep]] ([[User talk:DePiep|talk]]) 10:44, 28 August 2017 (UTC) |
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== Please use HTTPS for the Patient UK (patient.info) link == |
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Per your questions: (1) "Shall we move it to a shorter name?" I wouldn't have a problem with moving it to a shorter name. I've seen lots of arguments about whether something was a disease or a disorder, and my goal was just to sidestep the argument by explictly incorporating both elements into the name. But if you wanted to move it to a new name, I wouldn't object. (2) "In the boxes you placed, each one says hypoglycemia". I apologize for my error. I was copying over the template, and forgot to substitute the name. It looks like you have already fixed this, and I thank you for doing so. (3) "Are we using ICD-9 codes (as you have done) or ICD-10 ones?" I see you have updated the template already, so that issue appears moot. I'll try to create a page [[List of ICD-10 codes]], parallel to [[List of ICD-9 codes]]. Before I do so, do you know if 10 is free for us to use, and if there is a good site for us to get these codes? I know we had clearance on 9, per [[Talk:International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems]]. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 5 July 2005 15:13 (UTC) |
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The purpose of this edit is to provide increased privacy and security for users by having the template use HTTPS when generating links to Patient UK. (As a side note, a previous comment states that the template is deprecated; however, it appears that there are still [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&limit=500&target=Template%3AInfobox+medical+condition&namespace= many pages] on which the template is used.) In particular, it appears that URLs of the form <code><nowiki>http://patient.info/doctor/xxxxxx</nowiki></code> generate a [[HTTP 301|301 Moved Permanently]] redirect to <code><nowiki>https://patient.info/doctor/xxxxxx</nowiki></code> which in some cases is followed by a subsequent 301 redirect to another HTTPS URL. For example, http://patient.info/doctor/Body-Dysmorphic-Disorder-(BDD) generates a 301 redirect to https://patient.info/doctor/Body-Dysmorphic-Disorder-(BDD) which then generates a 301 redirect to https://patient.info/doctor/body-dysmorphic-disorder-pro. In the template, please change <code><nowiki>http://patient.info/doctor/</nowiki></code> to <code><nowiki>https://patient.info/doctor/</nowiki></code> instead. Thanks. --[[User:Elegie|Elegie]] ([[User talk:Elegie|talk]]) 10:33, 22 August 2017 (UTC) |
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:{{Done}}, @{{U|Elegie}}. -- [[User:CFCF|<span style="color:#014225;font-family: sans-serif;">Carl Fredrik</span>]]<span style="font-size: .90em;">[[User talk:CFCF|<sup> talk</sup>]]</span> 10:43, 22 August 2017 (UTC) |
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Also went ahead and did it one the [[Template:Medical resources]] that replaces this template. [[User:CFCF|<span style="color:#014225;font-family: sans-serif;">Carl Fredrik</span>]]<span style="font-size: .90em;">[[User talk:CFCF|<sup> talk</sup>]]</span> 10:44, 22 August 2017 (UTC) |
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== Possible fix for broken eMedicine search link == |
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:I cannot possibly imagine there would be restrictions of ''referencing'' to ICD-10 codes. There may be copyright issues on republishing the WHOLE list, which we may need to settle. All large health organisations use ICD-10 for coding, so I shouldn't think there would be a problem in using it. |
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:Strictly speaking, do you think the box needs at the top? I'm open to persuation either way, but many articles have images at the top that would be cluttered with a box. On the other hand: where else would we put it? [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 5 July 2005 19:24 (UTC) |
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At the current time, the template has the ability to generate a link for doing a search on eMedicine. If the search query is <code><nowiki>infection</nowiki></code>, for example, the URL for the search link would be http://search.medscape.com/emedicine-search?queryText=infection. However, it appears that search URLs of this format are broken; accessing such a URL generates a series of redirects that eventually lead to the URL <code><nowiki>https://search.medscape.com/search/?</nowiki></code> on the Medscape site and no search results are shown. It appears that it is possible to do a search on the Medscape site by using the URL https://search.medscape.com/search/?q=XXXX where XXXX is the search query term(s), though it is not clear as to whether all of the search results are specific to eMedicine. Would it be useful to change the template to use this URL format for doing eMedicine searches? --[[User:Elegie|Elegie]] ([[User talk:Elegie|talk]]) 11:18, 24 February 2018 (UTC) |
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For your question about should the infobox be on top -- I don't have a problem if it isn't at the top. On the other hand, if your concerns was that it would conflict with other pages that have an image near the top, then we could incorporate a location for the image directly into the template. This could help provide a more consistent interface for the diseases. For example, this is what is done with albums (see [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_%28album%29#Track_listing]].) --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 6 July 2005 20:31 (UTC) |
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== Error in template == |
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Per the 9/10 issue -- how would you feel if we added a second line to the template, so that we could store both the 9 and 10 code. The 9 codes are still commonly used in the United States, and we also have a more explicit release to use them than we have for the 10 codes. Also, another user left a message objecting to 10-centric (?) orientation at [[Talk:International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems]] (scroll to bottom). We could address this by adding another line to the template, and in a few years, if 9 codes become fully deprecated, then we could update all the disease pages at once just by updating the template. Any thoughts/objections? --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 6 July 2005 20:31 (UTC) |
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It seems that the template creates the following error for all instances now: |
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:Sounds OK [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 6 July 2005 20:42 (UTC) |
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Lua error in package.lua at line 80: module 'Module:I18n/date' not found. |
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: It is now fixed it seems [[User:Hervegirod|Hervegirod]] ([[User talk:Hervegirod|talk]]) 21:45, 8 September 2018 (UTC) |
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== Move discussion in progress == |
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::Ok, I've updated the template to include both 9 and 10, and fixed the linked pages where I had the codes (I have a source for 9 but not for 10, so I left those blank for now.) For the image idea -- I'll give people a week or so to object, and if nobody does, then I'll put that in. Thanks again for your assistance and guidance. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 6 July 2005 21:06 (UTC) |
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There is a move discussion in progress on [[Template talk:Infobox medical condition (new)#Requested move 3 June 2019 |Template talk:Infobox medical condition (new)]] which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. <!-- Template talk:Infobox medical condition (new) crosspost --> —[[User:RMCD bot|RMCD bot]] 21:16, 3 June 2019 (UTC) |
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==&nbsp; instead of whitespace== |
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I have put &nbsp; instead of whitespace in '''ICD-9/10 code:''' because it tends to get broken into two lines if the text on the right hand side is sufficiently long (e.g. see [[Auditory processing disorder]]). Looks good to me now but feel free to revert if there's any trouble with this layout. [[User:GregorB|GregorB]] 21:55, August 27, 2005 (UTC) |
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* Looks great! Thanks for the improvement Gregor! --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 22:26, 27 August 2005 (UTC) |
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== Symptoms/Signs == |
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Please do not put ICD boxes on pages just dealing with a symptom[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ataxia&diff=22595964&oldid=21576119]. This creates confusion and adds very little information. [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 06:26, 5 September 2005 (UTC) |
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: I have created the [[Template:SignSymptom infobox]] to address your concerns. The ICD codes do add valuable information -- see the sections [[List_of_ICD-9_codes#16._Symptoms.2C_signs.2C_and_ill-defined_conditions_.28780-799.29|ICD 9 signs/symptoms]] and [[List_of_ICD-10_codes#R00-R99_-_Symptoms.2C_signs_and_abnormal_clinical_and_laboratory_findings.2C_not_elsewhere_classified|ICD 10 signs/symptoms]]. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 15:24, 5 September 2005 (UTC) |
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This discussion is continuing at the [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Clinical medicine|WikiProject Clinical medicine]]. [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 22:23, 5 September 2005 (UTC) |
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==User JFW has expressed the following three concerns== |
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===Process=== |
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* Should each infobox be discussed here before adding it to the page, or should we add them to the page and then improve them incrementally? --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 00:36, 6 September 2005 (UTC) |
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::I was not suggesting this, but sometimes a box clouds matters and could be discussed on talk. [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 07:17, 6 September 2005 (UTC) |
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:::Then we may be on complete agreement on this, then, and can close the item. I'm presuming that when you say "could be discussed on talk", you're referring to the normal Wiki process of incremental improvement, and if so, then we have no disagreement. However, if you were referring to something else in your prior communication to me, please clarify (feel free to create a new header below if you feel I have paraphrased your prior objections inaccurately.) --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 14:42, 10 September 2005 (UTC) |
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OK. [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 20:25, 10 September 2005 (UTC) |
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===Diseases/Disorders vs. Signs/Symptoms=== |
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* How should we handle conditions like [[Ataxia]], which can be both diseases and signs? --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 00:36, 6 September 2005 (UTC) |
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::Ataxia is a symptom, and it is caused by many diseases, ranging from inebriation to cerebellar infarcts and [[ataxia telangiectasia]]. It is ''not'' a disease in itself. The ICD-10 assigns an "R" code to symptoms that are not medical diagnoses. [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 07:17, 6 September 2005 (UTC) |
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:::I agree with everything you've stated. And I'd be happy to clearly identify symptoms in ways that made it clear that they were not diagnoses. But I do think there is benefit to providing clearer definitions of these symptoms and better distinctions between them, and I think that the ICD codes will help drive to that result. Was your objection to the perceived blurring between symptoms and diagnoses, or to the use of ICD codes on symptoms? Or something else? --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 14:42, 10 September 2005 (UTC) |
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There are many symptom-related articles on Wikipedia that would not be associated with an ICD code. I think infoboxing symptom articles is best avoided, as it blurs the line between symptom and disease entity. Mentioning a symptom's ICD code is in itself not a problem... [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 20:25, 10 September 2005 (UTC) |
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===Ranges=== |
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* How should we handle conditions like [[Leukemia]], which is not a single disease with a single code but covers the ICD-10 range from C91-C95? --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 00:36, 6 September 2005 (UTC) |
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::It is my view that putting a box on a page like this creates the impression that "leukemia" without a modifier is ''one'' disease (''quod non''). [[Chronic myelogenous leukemia]] ''should'' have a box, or [[acute promyelocytic leukemia]], but not the disambiguation page. [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 07:17, 6 September 2005 (UTC) |
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:::I agree with your view, but I can also think of some examples that would be ambiguous and hard to categorize. Could you help us come up with a way to define what constitutes ''one'' disease? --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 14:42, 10 September 2005 (UTC) |
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Ahhh. For a non-haematologist, "acute leukemia" is enough to scamper and call the haematologist on-call. For a haematologist, it may be of essential relevance whether the patient has ALL L1 and needs enrolling in UKALL-XII, or AML M3 and could end up on idarubicin and ATRA. Some articles have more than one associated ICD code, even though most doctors would agree that we're dealing with ''one'' disease. I can only recommend taking soundings at the WikiProject talk page if things are uncertain. [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 20:25, 10 September 2005 (UTC) |
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== Problem with reference numbering == |
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There appears a reference numbering problem in articles that are making use of this infobox as well as ref/note templates (see [[Keratoconus]]). I have notified the last editor, but have left the infobox template in its last state for the time being. [[User:BillC|BillC]] 12:48, 21 January 2006 (UTC) |
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:I could reproduce the problem described by BillC at [[User talk:Ligulem#Template:Infobox Disease]]). I am puzzled. Thinking now what could be the cause for that (using my playgrounds [[User:Ligulem/work/Keratoconus/1]] and [[User:Ligulem/work/Infobox Disease/1]] in order not to disturb articles). --[[User talk:Ligulem|Ligulem]] 14:28, 21 January 2006 (UTC) |
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:Seems fixed with this [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AInfobox_Disease&diff=36090551&oldid=36081678 edit]. Strangely, after doing tests in my sandboxes, I found out that several pipes ("|") had to be removed in order to fix a false offset in reference numbering of [[Keratoconus]]. For example I had to change: |
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! [[Diseases Database|DiseasesDB]] |
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| [http://www.diseasesdatabase.com/ddb{{{DiseasesDB|}}}.htm {{{DiseasesDB|}}}] |
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! [[Diseases Database|DiseasesDB]] |
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| [http://www.diseasesdatabase.com/ddb{{{DiseasesDB}}}.htm {{{DiseasesDB}}}] |
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:I don't know why but I had to remove the pipes ("|") from <nowiki>{{{DiseasesDB|}}}</nowiki>. Very strange. I do not understand why, but it seems to be fixed now. --[[User talk:Ligulem|Ligulem]] 15:01, 21 January 2006 (UTC) |
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:A research result: I did the following test: starting with my sandbox ok-version [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Ligulem/work/Infobox_Disease/1&oldid=36090248], I [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ALigulem%2Fwork%2FInfobox_Disease%2F1&diff=36097410&oldid=36090248 added one single pipe char]. After that the references in my sandbox version of Keratoconus at [[User:Ligulem/work/Keratoconus/1]] started with #2 (instead of 1 as it should). If anybody has an idea why this is so, I would love to <s>hear</s> read that. --[[User talk:Ligulem|Ligulem]] 16:20, 21 January 2006 (UTC) |
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== Infobox heading == |
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Per [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=AIDS&diff=prev&oldid=36417842 this edit], readers with limited exposure to medical industry terms may be confused by this infobox. Should it mention "International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems" and link to [[International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems|its article]]? [[User:Rodasmith|The Rod]] 00:23, 24 January 2006 (UTC) |
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:The infobox already links directly to [[List of ICD-10 codes]] and [[List of ICD-9 codes]], and the link you mentioned is at the top of those pages. However, if there is a creative way to make things more clear without taking up excessive real estate, I could certainly support that. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 00:56, 24 January 2006 (UTC) |
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::I cannot find a heading that is terse, accurate, and context-providing: |
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::* Too verbose: "[[ICD|International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems]] for <nowiki>{{{Name}}}</nowiki>" |
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::* Potentially inaccurate: "[[International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems|International Classification of Diseases]] for <nowiki>{{{Name}}}</nowiki>" |
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::* Insufficient context: "[[ICD]] for <nowiki>{{{Name}}}</nowiki>" |
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::As it stands, though, disease articles now begin with ICD codes that are only explained after clicking through. Maybe we'll just have to let the user click through to see what "ICD" means, despite the [[WP:MoS#Acronyms and abbreviations|manual of style]]. [[User:Rodasmith|The Rod]] 03:08, 24 January 2006 (UTC) |
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::: How about [[ICD]] [[List of ICD-9 codes|9]] and [[ICD]] [[List of ICD-10 codes|10]]? --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 09:52, 24 January 2006 (UTC) |
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:::: That suggestion is terse, but since it does not expand "ICD", I do not think it clarifies the infobox for the uninitiated. [[User:Rodasmith|The Rod]] 16:51, 25 January 2006 (UTC) |
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:::::I agree with [[User:Rodasmith|The Rod]] on this point. I also feel that putting the name of the disease at the top of the box in articles such as [[Kwashiorkor]] and [[AIDS]] is redundant. However, in the case of [[Nasopharyngitis]] it becomes poignant as the article is named [[Common cold]]. --[[User:Grcampbell|Bob]] 18:12, 2 February 2006 (UTC) |
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::::::Perhaps we could make the title an optional field, so the line doesn't display if it is left blank? --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 20:39, 28 February 2006 (UTC) |
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:It most definetly should. This was also raised in a [[Wikipedia:Peer_review/Social_anxiety|peer review recently]] - this box is confusing to non-experts. Please add a heading explaining what this box is for.--[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]] <sup><font color="green">[[User_talk:Piotrus|Talk]]</font></sup> 05:38, 4 March 2006 (UTC) |
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::For clarity, I am copying your second sentence into a new section below, since it appears to be addressing a different issue. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 13:26, 4 March 2006 (UTC) |
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==Header== |
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Please add a heading explaining what this box is for.--[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]] <sup><font color="green">[[User_talk:Piotrus|Talk]]</font></sup> 05:38, 4 March 2006 (UTC) |
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:I don't necessarily object to this proposal, but please provide more information, and describe in more detail what you would like to see. Or if you can provide an example of a different infobox that you like, I'd be happy to try to emulate the appearance. But if it is a significant change, we should probably let the people at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Clinical medicine]] know about the proposal. This infobox used to contain more fields with content rather than just codes, and in my opinion was more self-explanatory then, but some users at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Clinical medicine]] had concerns about it, and [[User:Jfdwolff]] kept reverting use of the infobox until the number of fields was negotiated down (you can catch the tail end of that debate at the top of this page). I'd definitely like to see this infobox improved, but I'd rather avoid a repeat of that incident if possible. And in any case, a proposed change will be easier to sustain if there is broad support for it, so to anyone else reading this, I encourage you to offer your opinions on what you want for this infobox in the future. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 13:26, 4 March 2006 (UTC) |
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*I'd like to see something in the header telling me '''what on earth this box is telling me'''. For the uninitiated it's bizzare to see a box just containing codes and nothing telling me what the codes are all about so I can't decide if it has anything that will help me understand topic on the page any better. If it's too complicated for the header, then a footer in small italic type with a short description would be fine. --[[User:60.228.33.249|60.228.33.249]] 15:09, 1 October 2006 (UTC) |
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*I agree an explanation of the infobox would be helpful. How about a footer "Various Classifications of Diseases and Further Information"? It is intuitive that the names lead to descriptions of the database and the codes lead to more about the disease? [[User:Finavon|Finavon]] 17:39, 1 October 2006 (UTC) |
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==DSM and ICD9== |
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[[User:McDutchie]] today [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AInfobox_Disease&diff=40899715&oldid=39743554 added fields] for [[DSM-IV]]. This might not be necessary, because ICD9 codes and DSM-IV codes are identical in almost all cases, but I'd like to know what other people think. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 20:17, 23 February 2006 (UTC) |
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:I have deleted the DSM-IV line. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 20:40, 28 February 2006 (UTC) |
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::I didn't know they are identical in almost all cases. I wonder if that could be indicated somehow, since I doubt I'm the only one who didn't know that. [[User:McDutchie|McDutchie]] 04:34, 15 March 2006 (UTC) |
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:They're identical in most cases, but there are a few times when they're different. Is there any procedure for those cases? -- [[User:R'son-W|R'son-W]] [[User_talk:R'son-W|(speak to me]]/[[Special:Emailuser/R'son-W|breathe)]] 08:53, 21 February 2007 (UTC) |
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::Perhaps you could add the text "DSM" or "see article" into the ICD-9 field. Do you have an example? --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 12:29, 21 February 2007 (UTC) |
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==Thumbnail images in infobox== |
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Images that are not in an infobox have the option of having a [[blister|thumbnail indicator]] (small box/large box to the right of caption), which tells the user if the picture on the target page is the [[dermatomyositis|same size]] or [[eczema|larger]] than the picture on the disease page. This is a nice feature for users, who are probably going to be more likely to click if the target picture is larger. When images are in an [[strepthroat|infobox]], there doesn't seem to be a way to add an optional thumbnail indicator. Any advice? |
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See [[User_talk:Arcadian#Strep_throat_image|User_talk:Arcadian]] for prior discussion --[[User:Hardin_MD|HMD]] 20:20, 24 February 2006 (UTC) |
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:Thank you -- with the examples you provided, I now understand more clearly what you are looking for. Unfortunately, I don't know how to implement that, and it's not standard on Wikipedia articles (for example, larger versions of the lead image are available at [[Abbey Road (album)]], [[Gone with the Wind (film)]], [[Aspirin]], and [[Abraham Lincoln]], but no thumbnail indicator is provided.) But your idea is a good idea, and if someone more skilled than I knows how to implement it, I would welcome its inclusion. Per the broader issue you communicated on my talk page (if moving an image into an infobox eliminates the thumbnail indicator, should we leave the lead image outside of the infobox so people can still see the indicator?) -- in my opinion, Wikipedia precedent comes down on the side of including the lead image in the infobox, but I can see both sides of the issue. Before today, there wasn't really a good place to discuss issues like this, but per [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Clinical_medicine#Moving_content_to_own_page]], we now have a page at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Clinical medicine/Template for medical conditions]] which would be very well suited for discussing formatting issues and defining standards. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 20:36, 28 February 2006 (UTC) |
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==[[Tourette syndrome]] help== |
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I haven't been able to get these to work -- can anyone help? The DiseaseDB and OMIM info on TS is woefully inaccurate, so I don't want to add it. There are two articles on eMedicine ... one has already been added, but I want to add the other (multiple entry), and can't make it work. And, I can't figure out how to add the MedLinePlus info on TS. Please see note here. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dwaipayanc#Tourette_syndrome_OMIM_etal] TIA! [[User:SandyGeorgia|Sandy]] 19:31, 9 May 2006 (UTC) |
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:It looks like you've got them working now, but if you have other questions, don't hesitate to ask. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 22:02, 9 May 2006 (UTC) |
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::Thanks, Arcadian ... I got part working, still don't know how to add the MedlinePlus info ... [[User:SandyGeorgia|Sandy]] 00:06, 10 May 2006 (UTC) |
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:::I've now [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tourette_syndrome&diff=52407619&oldid=52384569 added] the Medline link. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 00:45, 10 May 2006 (UTC) |
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:::: Thanks !! [[User:SandyGeorgia|Sandy]] 00:49, 10 May 2006 (UTC) |
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==Sample== |
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I found the article hard to understand: here is a sample found by another editor. [[Crigler-Najjar syndrome]] [[User:SandyGeorgia|Sandy]] 11:21, 10 May 2006 (UTC) |
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==SNOMED== |
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Hi, I'd like to see the SNOMED classification [http://www.snomed.org/] added to the Infobox disease template. SNOMED is an alternate to ICD9 and ICD10 and appears (at least to me) to be superceding them. There are freely available tools to help convert between the different taxonomies and a very good site for looking up a SNOMED classification such as this one [http://gena.ontology.ims.u-tokyo.ac.jp:8081/mov/cgi-bin/movSearch.php] |
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Thanks |
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[[User:Btball|Brian]] 19:08, 13 June 2006 (UTC)btball |
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:SNOMED is a big list of names, and in the latest incarnation SNOMED-CT doesn't seem to be in any order, so IMO is less appropriate for a box like this although it might be nice. They can also get very long as you can add an enormous level of detail. And it looks like there would be licensing issues. |
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:BTW, I can't get to the ontology site from this (NHS) network - any ideas? |
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:[[User:Claus Diff|Claus Diff]] 09:27, 21 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::I just tried that link, and found it failed for me as well, though I believe it was okay a couple of days ago. Does anyone else have a live link? (And if there aren't any live links to real codes, then perhaps we should hold off on adding [[SNOMED]] for now.) --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 12:27, 21 June 2006 (UTC) |
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Hi, I am out-of-town right now but will address both concerns when I am back on Friday. As far as I know, licensing is not an issue, SNOMED codes are freely available and freely usable - I will provide references on Friday. Also, I'll find out what's wrong with the links and provide an update - they were working when I posted them - I'll go find out what happend. THanks, |
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[[User:Btball|Brian]] 12:38, 21 June 2006 (UTC)btball |
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:I've just had another look, [http://www.nlm.nih.gov/research/umls/Snomed/snomed_faq.html] may be relevent - I can't parse all that legalese. It looks like a structured code-base as well; I got the impression that merging concepts from Read Clinical Terms would have broken that, but apparently not. |
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[[User:Claus Diff|Claus Diff]] 08:13, 22 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::Perhaps as a transitional solution, we could add a new optional field called "other codes" or something like that. Then, if users wanted to add SNOMED, or anything else, they could go into that field. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 14:23, 22 June 2006 (UTC) |
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==Psychology Wiki== |
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Hi all, I am currently attempting to implement this box on the Psychology Wiki. This is a site that is attempting to use the wikipedia ideal to construct an academic site for the knowledge domain of psychology. |
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I have copied the template over onto this page [http://psychology.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Infobox_Disease]and as you can see I seem to have spare code. The site is running the latest version MediaWiki software but my knowledge of templates is limited and I havent been able to work out how to correct it I would be gratful if someone could help me make it work. I am happy to answer any questions about the site on my talk page |
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On another note with this appearing in the [[Dissociative identity disorder]] page |
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: Due to copyright infringement issues and editorial concerns, the American Psychiatric Association has requested that specific reference to the DSM-IV-TR by Wikipedia be outlinked. The current diagnostic criteria for Dissociative identity disorder published in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders may be found here: |
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DSM-IV-TR Diagnostic Criteria: Dissociative identity disorder (DID) |
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I think it would be important to include DSM code links, as it looks as if we will have to take out the descriptions in the text. Does anyone know anymore about this. |
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Many thanks in advance for any help you can offer.[[User:Lifeartist|Lifeartist]] 12:34, 16 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::The template is repaired now - thanks. |
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== Technical questions about the template == |
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I just added this infobox to [[Nail-patella syndrome]] and encountered two technical problems: (1) if there are no ICD codes for a disease, how do I get it to omit those entries? and (2) if there are multiple eMedicine articles for a disease (see [http://www.emedicine.com/ped/topic1546.htm] [http://www.emedicine.com/derm/topic813.htm]), how can I link to them both? — [[User:JVinocur|JVinocur]] ([[User talk:JVinocur|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/JVinocur|contribs]]) 22:40, 27 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:This [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nail-patella_syndrome&diff=60966533&oldid=60918209 diff] should show how to add multiple eMedicine links to a single page. For the other issue -- for now, the ICD9/10 currently display whether or not they are populated, but I wouldn't object if that was changed. However, in this case, I did find codes for [http://www.dmi.columbia.edu/hripcsak/icd9/2indexs.html ICD9] and [http://www3.who.int/icd/currentversion/fr-icd.htm?gq80.htm+q872 ICD10], so I added them to the article. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 04:58, 28 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:: ICD9 and 10 are now optional. --[[User:Wouterstomp|WS]] 15:52, 24 August 2006 (UTC) |
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==Multiple eMedicine links== |
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Is it possible to link to more than 2 eMedicine articles? E.g. [[rabies]] has 3 articles on emedicine. --[[User:Wouterstomp|WS]] 15:55, 24 August 2006 (UTC) |
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:Yes - just add a line with "eMedicine_mult = <nowiki>{{eMedicine2|w|x}} {{eMedicine2|y|z}}</nowiki> |", and then substitute the parameters for the second emedicine link into w and x, and the third link into y and z. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 19:10, 24 August 2006 (UTC) |
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:: Thanks! --[[User:Wouterstomp|WS]] 17:21, 25 August 2006 (UTC) |
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==CPT-4== |
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I would like to see the CPT-4 codes added to the infobox, it would make it more applicable for subjects such as [[Colonoscopy]], which is a procedure, rather than a disease (with a range of CPT-4 codes... does that make it impossible/more difficult to do?). Although I do edit many medical articles, I'd be way over my head with editing infoboxes, and have no desire to dive that deep into the Wiki functions.[[User:Chlopez|Carl]] 13:40, 5 September 2006 (UTC) |
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:Response at [[Template talk:Interventions infobox]]. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 23:06, 5 September 2006 (UTC) |
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==Suggestion== |
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{| class="infobox" style="width: 20em; font-size: 95%; text-align: left;" |
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|+ style="background: {{{Background|lightgrey}}}; font-size: 95%;" | '''Vasomotor rhinitis''' |
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! [[List of ICD-10 codes|ICD-10]] |
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! [[List of ICD-9 codes|ICD-9]] |
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|{{ICD9|477.9}} |
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| colspan="2" style="font-size: 85%; margin-top: 6px; padding-top: 4px; line-height: 100%; border-top: 1px dashed lightgrey;" | ''[[ICD|International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems]] ('''ICD''') code information'' |
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Here's my suggestion for how to clarify what on earth this box is for. (not-The) Rod --[[User:60.228.33.249|60.228.33.249]] 15:33, 1 October 2006 (UTC) |
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*See also earlier comments under [[#Header]]. |
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The offered footer is fine if ICD9 or 10 is required (which I prefer), but something more general is appropriate for the other databases. [[User:Finavon|Finavon]] 17:45, 1 October 2006 (UTC) |
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<br clear="all"/> |
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{| class="infobox" style="width: 20em; font-size: 95%; text-align: left;" |
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|+ style="background: {{{Background|lightgrey}}}; font-size: 95%;" | '''Classifications and Further Information<br/>''Random horrible disease''''' |
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! [[List of ICD-10 codes|ICD-10]]<sup>†</sup> |
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|J30.0 |
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! [[List of ICD-9 codes|ICD-9]]<sup>†</sup> |
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|{{ICD9|477.9}} |
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! [[OMIM]]<sup>‡</sup> |
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| [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/dispomim.cgi?id=161800 161800] [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/dispomim.cgi?id=256030 256030] [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/dispomim.cgi?id=605355 605355] |
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! [[Diseases Database|DiseasesDB]] |
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| [http://www.diseasesdatabase.com/ddb31991.htm 31991] [http://www.diseasesdatabase.com/ddb33448.htm 33448] [http://www.diseasesdatabase.com/ddb33447.htm 33447] |
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! [[MedlinePlus]] |
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| [http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001648.htm 001648] |
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! [[eMedicine]] |
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| [http://www.emedicine.com/topic4-2.htm ent/402] |
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! [[Medical_Subject_Headings|MeSH]]<sup>§</sup> |
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| [http://www.nlm.nih.gov/cgi/mesh/2006/MB_cgi?field=uid&term=D012223 D012223] |
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| colspan="2" style="font-size: 85%; margin-top: 12px; padding-top: 6px; line-height: 100%; border-top: 1px dashed lightgrey;" | ''† [[ICD|International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems]] code'' |
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|- |
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| colspan="2" style="font-size: 85%; padding-top: 4px; line-height: 100%;" | ''‡ [[OMIM|Mendelian Inheritance in Man]] database code'' |
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| colspan="2" style="font-size: 85%; padding-top: 4px; line-height: 100%;" | ''§ [[Medical Subject Headings]] descriptor'' |
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===Take 2=== |
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Yea, you're right, I didn't really notice/understand that this box is way more generic. Here's another go at making it more interesting using footnotes, could also use numbers (the <ref/> way) but it might be good to keep it distinct from the standard references. Some nice characters that can be used to indicate footnotes are: "†", "‡", "§", "*", "††", "‡‡", "§§", "**", "†††", "‡‡‡", "§§§", "***". Would make the template logic flow a tiny bit more complicated, but such is the price of [[Jabberwocky|sensificationality]]. (Rod) --[[User:60.228.33.249|60.228.33.249]] 23:37, 1 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:Considering that a wikilink exists for each line of the template, I'm not sure how much benefit there would be to including footnotes. On the other hand, the ICD-10 line currently links to [[List of ICD-10 codes]] and ICD-9 links to [[List of ICD-9 codes]], and neither of those pages provide much explanation. True, there is a link to [[ICD]] right at the top of each of those pages, but I wouldn't object if somebody wanted to point these links directly to [[ICD]]. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 00:46, 2 October 2006 (UTC) |
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::My issue is that the uninitiated have no idea if this box can give them more information about the topic they are looking at. That was how I've ended up here, it's currently just an odd box with some strange codes with links to lists of stuff that I have to go clicking through multiple levels to figure out if I've wasted my time doing the clicking in the first place. You should be able to know if the ''infobox'' can offer you actual helpful further information just by looking at it, not by having to click through it. Therefore, the footnotes would provide some of that information and give you hints about what you're going to find if you go on the click trail. Of course, the header also helps out towards this, I think this is needed at a minimum. (Rod) --[[User:60.228.33.249|60.228.33.249]] 01:24, 2 October 2006 (UTC) |
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This box seems to be less intuitive than many, despite going through a number of incarnations. It seems a good way to concisely provide access to further information in a standard format while still being useful to those in the know. I support the addition to the header and would like some form footer. [[User:Finavon|Finavon]] 07:14, 2 October 2006 (UTC) |
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<br clear="all"/> |
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{| class="infobox" style="width: 20em; font-size: 95%; text-align: left;" |
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|+ style="background: {{{Background|lightgrey}}}; font-size: 95%;" | '''Horrible condition'''<br>''Classifications and external resources'' |
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! [[List of ICD-10 codes|ICD-10]] |
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:I quite like the idea of putting some sort of explanation in the templates header explaining what is for. However, I think the name of the condition needs come first and most prominantly, with the templates purpose then shown as a subheading. I also propose a slight tweak of the description given (1) to indicate that these are for external links and (2) now fit on single line. Anyone object to:[[User:Davidruben|David Ruben]] <sup> [[User talk:Davidruben|Talk]] </sup> 03:17, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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::Looks good to me. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 10:15, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:As for ICD-9 & ICD-10, why not link both ways, ie the ICD to [[ICD]] and the 9 or 10 to the relevant list. Hence [[ICD]]-[[List of ICD-10 codes|10]] and [[ICD]]-[[List of ICD-9 codes|9]] ? [[User:Davidruben|David Ruben]] <sup> [[User talk:Davidruben|Talk]] </sup> 17:30, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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::Sounds good - done. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 17:50, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:I've had a go at the conditional coding needed to provide explanatory footnotes. The coding is at [[Template:Add code]] (for now) and the effect is shown at [[Template talk:Add code]] (which is where one should experiment with various parameters being undefined. (An alternative would have been to give the explanatory description immediately below each item, but that looked very cluttered). [[User:Davidruben|David Ruben]] <sup> [[User talk:Davidruben|Talk]] </sup> 23:48, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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::I like it all, lets get the header and footers done then eh? (ie: vote +1 from me) --[[User:203.51.90.231|203.51.90.231]] 05:55, 10 October 2006 (UTC) (Rod) |
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== Multiple MedlinePlus == |
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Is it possible to insert more than one MedlinePlus links in the infobox? As implied in the talk page, I tried "MedlinePlus_mult = {{MedlinePlus2|000077}} |" but there is no Template and I do not know enough to create one. [[User:Finavon|Finavon]] 18:02, 1 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:You are correct - it did not exist. This should now be fixed. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 00:41, 2 October 2006 (UTC) |
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==Beyond eMedicine_mult== |
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eMedicine_mult is fine if just a few additional eMedicine links need be added, but search eMedicine for [[Neuropathy]] comes up with 40 articles. Clearly we are not going to add links to all 40, but it would be nice to at least provide some sort of link to show eMedicine's resources on the topic. I have therefore allowed the eMedicine parameters to show instead a direct link to eMedicine's search pages for a topic: |
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: Set ''eMedicineSubj = search'' and ''eMedicineTopic'' to the term to be searched for. |
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As far as I can tell, my coding has not upset the normal use of this template in other articles. I'm sure we could do similar for MedlinePlus but I'm not sure on wisdom of doing so - its search pages provide links away from its "article" series and to other sites. [[User:Davidruben|David Ruben]] <sup> [[User talk:Davidruben|Talk]] </sup> 02:55, 8 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:Small problem encountered - using search string with spaces. eMedicine needs to be passed a search string with % 2 0 replacing any space (else the space is taken as the start of alternative display text - e.g. <nowiki>[http://www.example.com Displayed]</nowiki>). However then showing this search string (with asci code for space) looks messy. Hence I have altered instructions to editors to insert the '% 2 0' and the template shows instead "topic list". As an example see this version of [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shaken_baby_syndrome&oldid=80522210 Shaken baby syndrome] (an anon editor repeatedly removing any attempt to apply cite.php footnotes in favour of inline hyperlinks unconnected to manually maintained reference list). [[User:Davidruben|David Ruben]] <sup> [[User talk:Davidruben|Talk]] </sup> 21:32, 9 October 2006 (UTC) |
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==Width of Infobox== |
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Hey there, would it be possible to make the width of this box the same as the width of the Taxoboxes? [[Human papillomavirus]] is an example of what these two boxes look like when stacked, and I think it would be much more attractive if the widths matched. Thank you! [[User:Jengod|jengod]] 23:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:OK switched from width of 20em to 200px (does not seem much of a change on my computer). Can be reverted back if anyone disagrees. [[User:Davidruben|David Ruben]] <sup> [[User talk:Davidruben|Talk]] </sup> 03:15, 1 January 2007 (UTC) |
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==The Width of the caption== |
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<nowiki>{{editprotected}}</nowiki> |
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There is a problem with the rendering of the box on the latest version of Safari, the title section is a different width to the rest of the box making it look very very untidy. Easily sorted though... just replace the top with something more standard like this: |
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<nowiki> |
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{| class="infobox" cellspacing="0" style="width: 200px; font-size: 95%; text-align: left;"" |
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| colspan="2" align="center" style="font-size:1.3em; style="background: {{{Background|lightgrey}}}" | '''{{{Name|{{PAGENAME}}}}}'''<br>''Classifications and external resources'' |
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--[[User:Grcampbell|Bob]] 05:53, 6 January 2007 (UTC) |
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Opera9 has a problem with it too - the caption part is narrower than the rest of the table. Why don't you replace the caption with a normal table row? -- [[User:BorisTM|Boris]] 21:35, 17 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:I have no objections to that. Try it and see if it helps. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 23:54, 17 January 2007 (UTC) |
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::I played a bit but as far as my "style" knowledge gets me i couldn't make it look good at two browsers (Opera and FF) at the same time - if it looked good on one it would be awefull on the other. Normally i go around by using JavaScript (some people preffer PHP, or some other way) which would detect the browser and change the the style accordingly but we can't do it here. I don't really see why you guys would want to use the ''<nowiki><caption></nowiki>'' element for the header. If it because there is no white area around the heading then the caption alone could be inside a normal table with no padding, sitting on a second table that hold all the info and both these are nested inside a third one which positions them on the screen, but that's too unnecessary. So a very good and simple solution is what Bob has proposed and i agree with him [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AAdd_code&diff=103808044&oldid=80714810]. I also addded another row of two cells that is just under the header, that row keeps the rest of the content as away from the header as away are the table borders surrounding the header, plus it gives an easy way to control the width of the cells that hold the content. For the table's padding (5px) and width (280px) i used the same style definitions we have for the drugbox. -- [[User:BorisTM|Boris]] 10:38, 28 January 2007 (UTC) |
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Looks good, when will it be implemented? --[[User:Grcampbell|Bob]] 08:05, 30 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Not done now, please provide the exact text you wish to substitute in (and the text that needs to be replaced), then readd the ''editprotected'' tag. [[User:Proto|<span style="text-decoration:none">Proto</span>]]<i>::</i><small>[[User_talk:Proto|<span style="text-decoration:none">►</span>]]</small> 18:31, 5 February 2007 (UTC) |
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==Merck Manual== |
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The Merck Manual should be included in this template. [http://www.merck.com/mmpe/index.html] Thoughts? I don't understand how it can ''not'' be included (yet). --[[User:Chussid|Chussid]] 23:37, 31 December 2006 (UTC) |
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In keeping with [[WP:NOT#REPOSITORY]], I'd be reluctant to add yet more links to this prominent info box. Many info boxes actually provide information, not just a collection of terse external links. A brief review of the above resource revealed mixed results. Some topics were considerably less comprehensive than the Wikipedia article and hence don't meet [[WP:EL]] policy. Other topics were well covered but the lack of a named author for the topic, or any references, reduces its usefulness. [[User:Colin|Colin]]°[[User talk:Colin|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 17:56, 24 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:The last time I checked, the Merck Manual was ''outrageously'' inaccurate with respect to [[Tourette syndrome]] - we've got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tourette_syndrome#Infobox_additions enough inaccurate info] in the info box already - please, let's not add more. [[User:SandyGeorgia|Sandy<font color="green">Georgia</font>]] ([[User talk:SandyGeorgia|Talk]]) 17:35, 25 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== Disease is inapropriate for many symptom-based neuropsychiatric conditions == |
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Either the category must be renamed or autism, Aspergers, ADHD, Tourette, Bipolar and probably several other conditions should *not* link to it. These are generally not viewed as diseases. --[[User:Rdos|Rdos]] 05:40, 24 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:This is not a category, but an Infobox template. The template does not add any category to the articles it is used in, nor does it anywhere describe the condition/disorder/disease/ill by any particular title (only the article's own name is used if not directly specified). The choice of terms disease/illness/conditions is largely interchangeable and somewhat arbitary, although some terms are associated with stereotypes that some might wish to avoid. I both do not see a need to change name of the template, and certainly nothing in how it displays that needs changing. [[User:Davidruben|David Ruben]] <sup> [[User talk:Davidruben|Talk]] </sup> 10:00, 24 January 2007 (UTC) |
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::The template was created as "Template:DiseaseDisorder infobox", and it was renamed to "Template:Infobox Disease" by [[User:Netoholic]] on 8 January 2006. I could support something like a rename to "Template:Infobox Medical condition". --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 13:07, 24 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:::If consensus becomes to rename, would we need a bot to rename in the thousands of articles currently used in (to overcome redirect load and apply some uniformity across articles), if so how would thi sbe arranged ? [[User:Davidruben|David Ruben]] <sup> [[User talk:Davidruben|Talk]] </sup> 13:20, 24 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:I can't see much need to change since the name of this template is invisible to readers. Is the inappropriateness of "disease" due to not be specific (syndromes and injuries also use this template) or because the term may cause offence if applied to certain people-groups who don't regard their condition as being a medical problem. If the latter, then the box fails on more than just the name, since it links to medical resources. |
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:BTW: There are approx 2,100 links to this template and 1,200 links to the old "Template:Infobox Disease", which is now a redirect. [[User:Colin|Colin]]°[[User talk:Colin|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 17:47, 24 January 2007 (UTC) |
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::It's invisible to readers - no need to go through the extensive work of re-naming it, even if [[Tourette syndrome]] is not a "disease". [[User:SandyGeorgia|Sandy<font color="green">Georgia</font>]] ([[User talk:SandyGeorgia|Talk]]) 14:09, 28 January 2007 (UTC) |
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==Problem with OMIM_mult== |
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I'm getting a bogus blank entry at the begining of the OMIM_multi, at [[:Albinism]]. Any ideas why? — <span style="font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]]</span> [[[User_talk:SMcCandlish|talk]]] [[[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|contrib]]]</span> <span style="color: #990000; font-weight: bold;">ツ</span> 05:40, 28 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:Fixed. (The "OMIM_multi" is only when you have more than one; the "OMIM" field is used for the first one.) --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 08:24, 28 January 2007 (UTC) |
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::Oh! Might want to make that clearer in the documentation. Thanks for the quick fix. :-) — <span style="font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]]</span> [[[User_talk:SMcCandlish|talk]]] [[[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|contrib]]]</span> <span style="color: #990000; font-weight: bold;">ツ</span> 09:48, 28 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:::I've added more explict details of the "template2"'s to use with teh "_mult" parameters. Hope this helps :-) [[User:Davidruben|David Ruben]] <sup> [[User talk:Davidruben|Talk]] </sup> 03:28, 29 January 2007 (UTC) |
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==US-centric ICD-9(CM)?== |
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The ICD-9 line of the template automatically refers the reader to the ICD-9CM version currently used in the US. As a result of this, articles such as [[Chronic fatigue syndrome]] point to 9-CM listings while advertising (to the non-US eye) that the condition is listed as such (in this case 780.71) in the original ICD-9. However, CFS (the name) had not been invented when ICD-9 was adopted in 1975 and the original ICD-9 did not have 5-digit codes (CFS would fall under the original code 780.7). Therefore I'm proposing to add template code accommodating such instances (identical to the ICD9 but with ICD9CM as argument and ICD-9CM as displayed text). Another way might be to make it clear to the reader that the US version ICD-9CM is used. Thanks. [[User:Avb|AvB]] ÷ [[User_talk:Avb|<small>talk</small>]] 09:31, 20 March 2007 (UTC) |
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Template-protected edit request on 21 April 2017
The page Thrombocytopenia starts with a plain wikilink to the category Category:Pages with Infobox medical condition using multiple parameters for one. I presume that you actually want to add the article to that category, and so the colon at the start of the wikilink in this template's code should be removed. User:GKFXtalk 22:15, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 15 August 2017
Consensus here has depreciated this template, in favour of template:Infobox medical condition (new) in combination with template:medical resources. Please add {{Deprecated template|Infobox medical condition|Infobox medical condition (new)|note=For adding classification data, see [[template:medical resources]]|date=August 2017}} if deemed appropriate. Little pob (talk) 12:21, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- What is the transition process? How do I actually replace it with the new one? Parameter-replacements? -DePiep (talk) 19:35, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- Last I read a bot was being proposed to automate the transition to the new infobox? However, the deprecated tag is for the template page, not the infobox itself. It may have been clearer if I had provided the WL to Template:Deprecated_template also, as it has an example at the top. Little pob (talk) 07:35, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
- Updating is going to be a slow and gradual process. I have done 500 or so.
- We have a tool that speeds up the conversion but it is still manual. More work is required before it can be automated.
- You add this to your common.js
- importScript("User:Ladsgroup/RefCleaner.js");
- Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:17, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
- Last I read a bot was being proposed to automate the transition to the new infobox? However, the deprecated tag is for the template page, not the infobox itself. It may have been clearer if I had provided the WL to Template:Deprecated_template also, as it has an example at the top. Little pob (talk) 07:35, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
Note: Given that the main protagonist in this change Doc James has passed on making the change, and nobody else has taken it up in 2 weeks, I'll mark it as answered. I think marking a template as deprecated while it's still in use on 6500 pages would taint too many pages for too long. Little pob, some kind of comment on the doc page indicating its deprecated state and where to find the new preferred template seems more appropriate at this stage. Regards, Cabayi (talk) 09:55, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
- Added to /doc. Template {{Deprecated template|Infobox medical condition}} must be added to the documentation page, and so will not appear in mainspace. It does not alter any working of the tempalte, it's just documentation text. (BTW, that page is not protected and so does not formally need an {{edit template-protected}} request). -DePiep (talk) 10:44, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
Please use HTTPS for the Patient UK (patient.info) link
The purpose of this edit is to provide increased privacy and security for users by having the template use HTTPS when generating links to Patient UK. (As a side note, a previous comment states that the template is deprecated; however, it appears that there are still many pages on which the template is used.) In particular, it appears that URLs of the form http://patient.info/doctor/xxxxxx
generate a 301 Moved Permanently redirect to https://patient.info/doctor/xxxxxx
which in some cases is followed by a subsequent 301 redirect to another HTTPS URL. For example, http://patient.info/doctor/Body-Dysmorphic-Disorder-(BDD) generates a 301 redirect to https://patient.info/doctor/Body-Dysmorphic-Disorder-(BDD) which then generates a 301 redirect to https://patient.info/doctor/body-dysmorphic-disorder-pro. In the template, please change http://patient.info/doctor/
to https://patient.info/doctor/
instead. Thanks. --Elegie (talk) 10:33, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Done, @Elegie. -- Carl Fredrik talk 10:43, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Also went ahead and did it one the Template:Medical resources that replaces this template. Carl Fredrik talk 10:44, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Possible fix for broken eMedicine search link
At the current time, the template has the ability to generate a link for doing a search on eMedicine. If the search query is infection
, for example, the URL for the search link would be http://search.medscape.com/emedicine-search?queryText=infection. However, it appears that search URLs of this format are broken; accessing such a URL generates a series of redirects that eventually lead to the URL https://search.medscape.com/search/?
on the Medscape site and no search results are shown. It appears that it is possible to do a search on the Medscape site by using the URL https://search.medscape.com/search/?q=XXXX where XXXX is the search query term(s), though it is not clear as to whether all of the search results are specific to eMedicine. Would it be useful to change the template to use this URL format for doing eMedicine searches? --Elegie (talk) 11:18, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
Error in template
It seems that the template creates the following error for all instances now:
Lua error in package.lua at line 80: module 'Module:I18n/date' not found.
- It is now fixed it seems Hervegirod (talk) 21:45, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress
There is a move discussion in progress on Template talk:Infobox medical condition (new) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 21:16, 3 June 2019 (UTC)