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For more of Pepe Escobar's decidely NON-western oriented writings go to >>>

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/others/Escobar.html

http://atimes.com/atimes/others/Pepe2011.html

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.250.155.34 (talk) 17:35, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There should be a separate Wikipedia article entitled Globalistan. Globalistan is a large topic and merits its own article. Billions of people are forced to live in Globalistan against their will and yet Globalistan does not even have its own WIkipedia article.

-some have suggested it could be merged with the WIkipedia article NBA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.67.17.194 (talk) 08:29, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It seems biased that the only article of Escobar's mentioned in the page is the one where he made a huge mistake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.39.92.104 (talk) 04:10, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore, the cited article does not contain the mistake that this page claims it does. The cited article is inaccurately summarized by whomever put it there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.108.2.164 (talk) 01:26, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This article is biased on the opposite side, because Pepe Escobar was fired from a Brazilian newspaper in the 80´s due to plagiarism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.87.240.5 (talk) 02:31, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I removed a paragraph added by Philip_Cross which IMO violates BLP and BALASP:

The Anti-Defamation League described Escobar as a "anti-Israeli journalist". Escobar was among those attending the New Horizon Conference in Tehran, Iran in Fall 2014 along with others the ADL described as antisemites and Holocaust deniers.

It took me just a moment of searching on Google to discover a detailed article about the conference based on information from Gareth Porter , who "was upset by the content of the conference ..[because] the organizers had assured him that extremists wouldn't be there...Code Pink founder Medea Benjamin and Brazilian journalist Pepe Escobar, also in attendance, were equally upset about the conference."[1] Jeremy Stone, who funded Porter's travel, remarked "in our half-century of efforts to prevent war, terrorism and genocide, and forestall the collapse of civilization, it is not feasible to avoid attending Middle East conferences that might, in the end, be attended by various nuts in varying proportions." Devoting a paragraph to an attack piece from ADL without other context violates BLP and greatly unbalances this very brief article about Escobar. HouseOfChange (talk) 13:39, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pepe Escobar's peers would be other journalists who take an interest in world affairs. Based on multiple citations from multiple journalists over multiple years, he meets WP:NJOURNALIST #1, widely cited by peers.

• 2012 The Atlantic^[1][2]
• 2013 Mercury News^[3]
• 2015 The Week^[4]
• 2016 Oliver Stone in Interview magazine^[5]
• 2019 Jacobin and Secret Notes from Iran^[6][7]
• 2021 Times of Malta^[8]

The article needs more third-party sourcing and better content, but Escobar is clearly a notable journalist. Of course, it is always a problem to Google material ABOUT journalists because there is typically so much more material written by said journalists. HouseOfChange (talk) 16:48, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Atlantic is the only source you have there that approaches RS, the one article (from 2012) merely mentions him in a long list of Al Jazeera contributors (doesn't "cite him"), and the other - again, from 2012 - features a single quote complaining that the contemporaneous US President (Obama) is beholden to AIPAC. So no, he doesn't meet the threshold for notability. One citation from a decade ago does not equate to "widely cited by peers". It proves the exact opposite, he's not a peer. He does have a single recent publication to his name in a non-partisan RS. Not a one. EnlightenmentNow1792 (talk) 15:03, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@EnlightenmentNow1792: Notability is not temporary, nor does it require non-partisanship. Please AGF that my edits to the article are intended to improve Wikipedia by providing NPOV information about a journalist notable enough for an article, probably just barely so, but nevertheless notable. HouseOfChange (talk) 18:22, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Here are recent examples of PE being "cited by peers":

• Straits Times (August 28, 2021 ): In contrast, the Taliban had limited fire power. As Pepe Escobar put it: 'They relied only on Kalashnikovs, rocket-propelled grenades and Toyota pick-ups — before they captured American hardware these past few days, including drones and helicopters.'"
• The Business Standard (September 3, 2021): "Afghanistan then presented two different models of governance. Pepe Escobar, in his book, Massoud: From Warrior to Statesman, noted..."
• Jacobin (October 22, 2019): "The fact remains that, in the words of journalist and international relations analyst Pepe Escobar, ..."
• Vision (Summer, 2017): "The urbanization drive, as geopolitical analyst Pepe Escobar puts it, 'is at the heart of the Chinese Dream.'"
• Le Temps (June 16, 2016) "La présence de personnalités charismatiques crédibles et qui possèdent un discours de contestation de l’ordre établi comme Julian Assange, Edouard Snowden ou encore Pepe Escobar sur RT, contribuent à propager l’image d’une chaîne dissidente..." (The presence of credible charismatic personalities who have a discourse challenging the established order, such as Julian Assange, Edouard Snowden or even Pepe Escobar on RT, contributes to propagating the image of a dissident channel...)

To be "cited" as a subset of NCREATIVE means to have your work quoted or your name mentioned as a presumably well-known-by-others type-of-NCREATIVE, by your peers, those best able to judge. It does NOT require being "cited as an authority" (contrary to this edit summary). HouseOfChange (talk) 17:42, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Right, so that's two reverts each. Now, where are these reliable sources? EnlightenmentNow1792 (talk) 19:08, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You understand what's required of you, yes? You need to prove he is "widely cited" by "notable journalists" (aka "peers"), and that this is published in RSs. Can you give me, say, one? EnlightenmentNow1792 (talk) 19:11, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So would you agree with my assessment that you have one source so far, that of "Steven J. Rosenthal" from some institution called "Hampton University", who publishes articles in fringe journals that often get zero citations (this was the most impactful piece of work of his that I could find: https://doi.org/10.1300/J134v03n02_04), that is not so much a "peer", but is, well, at least an academic (of sorts).

I don't see anything else though. Wouldn't you agree that the difficulty you're having is most likely due to the fact that he is not, in fact, a notable "widely cited" journalist/analyst/commentator on... anything? EnlightenmentNow1792 (talk) 00:00, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have already listed my sources for journalists citing PE, which include The Atlantic, Straits Times, Mercury News, and Times of Malta. You are mistaken to think that I am trying to portray him as an expert or authority--he is a journalist, widely-cited enough that it is a service to our readers to provide them with some information about him. If you consider him not notable as a journalist, I suggest filing an AfD so that others can express an opinion. HouseOfChange (talk) 00:10, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]