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There are now several editors who disagree with adding Category:Programming games. Just because there is are certain items in the game that allow players to write their own scripts does not make programming a defining trait of the game. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 01:50, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Add me to the list. Minecraft has simulated electronics enginering with sensors, logic gates, etc. It doesn't simulate computer programming with data storage, program counter, address space, etc. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:26, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It does, however, literally allow programming, including control statements, loops and storage.  Nixinova   T   C   03:43, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And so does a giant pile of transistors, a big spool of wire, and a soldering iron. With a million transistors you can create a 486. Likewise with a million redstone components. And actually, if you have the right tools, you don't need the transistors or the wire. Just a big pile of sand and some copper ore. Anything that simulates computer hardware components can be used to create something that you can program. That doesn't mean that we should put sand or transistor in the category 64-bit computer. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:08, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The link Nixinova posted there is not to redstone, which is what I believe you're thinking of, but rather to functions which are commands built into the game, take a look. Leijurv (talk) 07:04, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Minecraft is not a programming game. Martin Kraus thinks that because it has the ability to run scripts written outside the game, means that programming is a defining aspect of Minecraft. Is Wikipedia about programming? It too incorporates aspects of programming! Lets tag it with the programming category then! Programming games (as said in the article he quoted) are qualified by enabling the player to direct otherwise autonomous units, which I have to ask, 'are sure you're in the right place?' To even access the scripting language means to go out of your way to work with it. SWinxy (talk) 03:45, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What? He isn't talking about redstone? Every computer program can be controlled by an external program. Heck, I was making programs that stuffed keystrokes into the keyboard buffer under DOS. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:08, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, just to explain my rationale: according to the definition of a programming game in the main article of the category (Programming game), the redstone component appeared to be enough to qualify it as a programming game. If you think that that definition is incorrect, I think you should change that article first. And I don't think that every category has to describe a defining trait of the game. (For example, are Category:Split-screen multiplayer games or Category:Video games with stereoscopic 3D graphics or Category:Virtual reality games defining traits of Minecraft?) In any case, thanks to everyone for discussing this, coming to a conclusion, and acting on that conclusion while I was sleeping. Martin Kraus (talk) 06:19, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"If you think that that definition is incorrect, I think you should change that article first." It does not matter what another article says, because using that would be WP:SYNTH and not allowed. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 10:03, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I learned a lot about Wikipedia's categorization thanks to this discussion. Frankly, I'm tempted to remove more than half of the categories from the article based on the categorization rules. But then I don't think that those rules are particularly good rules. Martin Kraus (talk) 13:26, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To even access the scripting language means to go out of your way to work with it. – You just have to press slash in-game.  Nixinova   T   C   06:07, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's not a scripting language. It is a way to enter commands. [ See https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Commands#List_and_summary_of_commands ]. See any for-next or if-then commands? Not even a goto? --Guy Macon (talk) 12:14, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is, and I would know, I mod that site. The link I gave you above, about Functions, are the scripting language that implement these commands.
If statements are done using /execute if <condition> run <command>. 'Gotos' are done using /execute <...> run function <function name>. It doesn't have proper for loop syntax but you can just use recursion.  Nixinova   T   C   22:11, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, in that context it might be worth noting how much Microsoft is pushing Minecraft as a tool to teach coding with the "Education Edition" and websites like this: https://education.minecraft.net/. Apparently, lots of children already learn elements of coding with Minecraft. Martin Kraus (talk) 22:35, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure lots of children learned about resource management and architecture from Minecraft too, but that still doesn't really make them defining traits of the game. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 22:55, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

At some point, someone will have to explain to me how Category:Wii U eShop games could possibly be considered a defining characteristic of Minecraft. Martin Kraus (talk) 23:13, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Minecraft is certainly not a programming game. Among many other features, it does provides the tools to create complex mechanisms that can even simulate computers and such. But to equate that to the game being a "programming game" is a far stretch. For example, other games like Factorio or Terraria have similar tools. In any case, multiple reliable sources are required that explicitly and deliberately describe the game as a "programming game" genre/type and there are no such sources as far as I know. (My talk discussion.) —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 10:45, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, but minecraft education edition (but not Java or Bedrock editions) is a programming game. See [1] and [2]. --Guy Macon (talk) 23:16, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, those sources don't even include the term "programming game", thus, they are irrelevant for the discussion whether Minecraft Education Edition is a "programming game" or not - at least that's one of the things that I learned from this discussion. Martin Kraus (talk) 23:48, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As a Minecraft player, I can confirm. Minecraft isn’t necessarily about coding, but Minecraft Education Edition is. So, that category tag isn’t necessary for this page, but the Minecraft Education Edition page should have that category tag. Hope this helps. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.208.18.224 (talk) 02:03, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I both agree and disagree with this. Minecraft: Java Edition isn't in itself a programming game. HOwever technically writing code is a large part of it. You are technically writing code when you execute a command (i.e when you do something like /effect give @p minecraft_night_vision 1000 10 no), although it has been simplified. All in all it technically depends on what gamemode you are playing in Minecraft. If you are playing Survival mode then programming is basically non-existant. If you are playing Creative mode then programming tends to be a large part of it. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 16:41, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Under the section "Gamemodes" under Adventure, it mentions command blocks designed for custom maps. It also mentions this in the "Customization" section, also about custom maps. Is this redundant? Or is it appropriate to keep it mentioned in both sections. Suspicioussandwich (talk) 13:22, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't say so. Remember, it's possible that somebody just clicks on a section via the table of contents and that ends up being all they read. As long as it's not overexplained twice then it shouldn't be much of an issue. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 22:59, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It wouldn’t let me add a page I created on the Māori Wikipedia the links because there was a lock symbol. The page name is Minecraft, the Māori Wikipedia ID is miwiki and the link to the page is here; https://mi.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Minecraft&redlink=1# — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.208.18.224 (talk) 01:58, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The page has been deleted because it was a machine translation, so there's nothing to link at the moment. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 15:50, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It was recently announced that the upcoming Caves and Cliffs update will be split into two parts. One releasing in Summer 2021 and the other releasing in Holiday 2021. As of 16:00 (ET) April 15 2021, this change is not reflected in the article. The reasons given for this change are: "quality", "technical complexity" and "team health". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Disneyx (talk • contribs) 16:08, April 15, 2021 (UTC)

I agree with you. It should be changed to reflect this with a provided source. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 16:36, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Updated with source.  Nixinova   T   C   22:06, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Can you add a Minecraft icon for users not familiar with the icon itself? Thank you. NonPopularPerson (talk) 18:41, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Sennecaster (What now?) 18:46, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Copyright is a complicated subject, but the short version is that there's already an identifying cover art image, so there's no fair use reason to have a second one. See WP:NFCC 3a. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 18:48, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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