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In what sense is this:

Rubio has called for investments to provide the poor with the skills they need to no longer be dependent on government aid. He has said that while this would not save money in the short run it would pay off in reduced poverty later.

Not an allowed neutral rephrasing of

"When I spoke with him, Rubio also stood by his own antipoverty proposal, acknowledging it would not save any money but suggesting it might in the long run since it would lift many out of poverty."

Hcobb (talk) 21:06, 18 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In every sense? You've made a complete original interpretation of what the article says. "has called for investments", where does it say that? "provide the poor with the skills they need", where does it say that? "no longer be dependent on government aid", where does it say that? "not save money in the short run", where does it say "in the short run" or anything similar? If you want to mention this "antipoverty proposal" of Rubio, I suggest you track down an article about it since not much can be extracted from this one. Regards. Gaba ^(talk) 02:18, 19 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• The plan wouldn’t save a dime in the short run — in fact, it would most likely increase costs
• What sets Rubio’s thinking apart is his enthusiasm for a different approach to educating and training the young.

I.e. investments in skills, by spending money in the short run.

• it might in the long run since it would lift many out of poverty

I.e. long term savings. Hcobb (talk) 03:18, 19 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No. You are fundamentally breaching WP:OR and WP:SYN by combining different statements to derive your own interpretation. That is not acceptable. The source does not support the statement you propose. I repeat: if you wish to say something about Rubio's "antipoverty proposal", you need to come up with a better source, preferably one about the issue in particular. Regards. Gaba ^(talk) 03:26, 19 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Agree somewhat. You can perfectly add that content, but only if is fully attributed. Just rephrase accordingly, and keep the content. - Cwobeel (talk) 04:47, 19 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So what is the alternate phrasing of Rubio's policies that I'm not seeing here? Hcobb (talk) 14:25, 19 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As I said, not much can be extracted from that article since it's pretty vague and contains very little information. At the risk of sounding repetitive: if you want to say something about Rubio's "antipoverty proposal", you need to come up with a better source, preferably one about the issue in particular. Regards. Gaba ^(talk) 15:55, 19 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We don't need a better source, this is as good as a source as you need. We just need better copy-editing and full attribution. - Cwobeel (talk) 15:11, 20 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The article seems a little short on detail about Rubio's association with the Tea Party which was very notable around 2010. Here are some sources that may be useful if anyone is interested in expanding this aspect of the article.

1. "Rubio, a dynamic Tea Party candidate..."^[1]
2. " "He understands the plight of the common man a lot better than most because of his background," said Jason Hoyt, the director of the Central Florida Tea Party Council, who embraced Rubio early. "That really resonates with tea party folks." "^[2]
3. "The senator [[Marco Rubio] who was elected as part of the Tea Party wave in the 2010 midterms, said he and his wife train at the shooting range two or three times a year."^[3]
4. "His political history also explains Rubio's special bond with the GOP's tea party faction."^[4]
5. "Rubio is renewing his outreach to tea party supporters and his advocacy for GOP causes as he struggles to repair his image as a conservative standard-bearer."^[5]
6. "Rubio, like some other Latino Republicans who have had high profiles in the last year, is a Tea Party conservative, and that – not his ethnicity – is what shapes Latinos’ view of him, political experts say."^[6]
7. "For months, Rubio, a Tea Party Republican from Florida, sent several daily press releases and appeared weekly on television news shows pleading the cause of immigration reform."^[7]
8. "And one other Tea Party senator, Florida’s Marco Rubio, is being hailed as a “savior” for the GOP as he moves to the center and negotiates an immigration reform deal."^[8]
9. "...Tea Party-backed lawmaker Sen. Marco Rubio..."^[9]
10. "Rubio was one of the first big wins for the Tea Party..."^[10]
11. "Then a rising GOP star emerges from the Tea Party ranks and makes his mark in Congress. In his first Sunday show interview, Senator Marco Rubio talks about the debt crisis and his political future." ... "A Tea Party favorite, people are already asking whether he [Marco Rubio] might run for president or vice president next year."^[11]
12. "one-time tea party darling"^[12]
13. "One of the top Tea-Party-backed fundraisers, Florida Republican Marco Rubio..."^[13]
14. "tea party champion"^[14]

There is also a parallel discussion at BLPN about Rubio's Tea Party association.- MrX 14:53, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What's the rationale for including Rubio in the Climate Change Skeptic category. Based on his bio, it doesn't appear that he's contesting climate change. He's contesting the link between climate change and human activity.CFredkin (talk) 04:51, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]