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==Judges Sexual Offender Controversy==
==Judges Sexual Offender Controversy==
I think this section needs to be there; WOTC, Channel Fireball, and The Judges program have issued statements and there is a history there. <small><span class="autosigned">—[[User:Terps2008|Terps2008]] ([[User talk:Terps2008|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Terps2008|contribs]]) 16 January 2018‎ (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Signing-->
I think this section needs to be there; WOTC, Channel Fireball, and The Judges program have issued statements and there is a history there. <small><span class="autosigned">—[[User:Terps2008|Terps2008]] ([[User talk:Terps2008|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Terps2008|contribs]]) 16 January 2018‎ (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Signing-->
:No, because it was a ludicrous astroturfed "controversy." WotC did make an official change, but it was a single press release which doesn't nearly rate a mention in the 25 year history of Magic. [[User:SnowFire|SnowFire]] ([[User talk:SnowFire|talk]]) 02:55, 17 January 2018 (UTC)


==Issues with Standard==
==Issues with Standard==
The Meta is getting figured out quickly (mainly due to the web and data), resulting in infrequent card bans. Some mentioning of this I think should be in the standard section? <small><span class="autosigned">—[[User:Terps2008|Terps2008]] ([[User talk:Terps2008|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Terps2008|contribs]]) 16 January 2018‎ (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Signing-->
The Meta is getting figured out quickly (mainly due to the web and data), resulting in infrequent card bans. Some mentioning of this I think should be in the standard section? <small><span class="autosigned">—[[User:Terps2008|Terps2008]] ([[User talk:Terps2008|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Terps2008|contribs]]) 16 January 2018‎ (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Signing-->

:No, players whining about the metagame is as old as the hills and common to all games - the [[Hearthstone]] article would be endless whines about the meta or demands to nerf card XYZ for example. Maybe including something in the articles [[Kaladesh]], etc. on cards that got banned is fine, though. [[User:SnowFire|SnowFire]] ([[User talk:SnowFire|talk]]) 02:55, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

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criticism/controversy section

i miss a section that would sum up the downsides of this ongoing game and story writing process. mtg is never finished as it keeps adding new sequels to the multiverse storyline and keeps changing the cardgame, adding new rules, new card categories, new card layout designs,and changing retroactively the gameplay buy shifting the winning conditions. i am not arguing that the game does not have its merits, or that it would deserve a negative review, but i think that a section to summarize the criticizm would make the article more balanced. otherwise the article reads as an advertisment, bearing the one sided view of the product's developers and the company selling it. to help starting this section, my 2cents: the game's underlying principle is to make its customers feel powerful buy buying the newest cards that as a general rule beat the older ones (with the notable exception of an out of print set of 9 cards that arebanned from use in most official playing events and are practically non available). the chabce for winning the game is heavily influenced by the money spent for acquisition of stronger and rarer cards, that then soon become obsolete and outpowered by newly invented game mechanics and new cards from subsequent expansions. thres also a tendency of inflation, new rules and game mchanics introduced every few months that are not necessarily adding to the fun, but keep relatively new players in the buying cycle. 176.63.176.112 (talk) 22:19, 20 December 2016 (UTC).[reply]

Re adding a criticism section: see Wikipedia:Criticism, in general these sections are not encouraged. They tend to be a magnet for random "person X said something bad about Y" drop-offs. Instead, integrate criticism throughout the article, and note that criticism means both good AND bad criticism.
Re your feelings on obsoleted cards: That's nice, but Wikipedia is not your blog. It is for summarizing notable published third-party opinions, not original research, or original opinions in this case. SnowFire (talk) 23:16, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Just want to reinforce what SnowFire has said. Wikipedia is not a Blog, and the use of Controversy Sections is not something to just add to every article.Apriestofgix (talk) 17:43, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It does read like a press release form the Owners Press Office, as do alot of articles as companies will spend the time and effort to make it so. The game has to change to make it interesting or people would get board. It has the basis of all card games, PAY TO WIN,(Simple supply and demand as in everything in life), but it also does involve alot of skill unlike alot of other games.--TobyWongly (talk) 07:30, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Patent applied for after the game had been released

No mention of the Patent and has it ever been tested in court? (likely to fail). There several games which contain parts that are clearly set out in the MTG Patent! --TobyWongly (talk) 07:34, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a reliable source that says the patent is likely to fail? Or on the patent in general? If you can find one, great, it could definitely be discussed more. Otherwise, we can't include it.
As a side comment, the courts have upheld FAR STUPIDER patents with completely proven "prior art" (Immersion v. Sony for one of many examples), so as a personal opinion, "likely to fail" is premature. But... neither of our opinions matters, what matters is what reliable sources say. SnowFire (talk) 14:40, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Judges Sexual Offender Controversy

I think this section needs to be there; WOTC, Channel Fireball, and The Judges program have issued statements and there is a history there. Terps2008 (talk • contribs) 16 January 2018‎ (UTC)

No, because it was a ludicrous astroturfed "controversy." WotC did make an official change, but it was a single press release which doesn't nearly rate a mention in the 25 year history of Magic. SnowFire (talk) 02:55, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Issues with Standard

The Meta is getting figured out quickly (mainly due to the web and data), resulting in infrequent card bans. Some mentioning of this I think should be in the standard section? Terps2008 (talk • contribs) 16 January 2018‎ (UTC)

No, players whining about the metagame is as old as the hills and common to all games - the Hearthstone article would be endless whines about the meta or demands to nerf card XYZ for example. Maybe including something in the articles Kaladesh, etc. on cards that got banned is fine, though. SnowFire (talk) 02:55, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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