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== Edit request 19 July 2023 ==
==Increased aggression after long term use==
A small (260 people) 2007 study in Atlanta seems to show increased aggression in heavy users.
Is this confirmed by other studies? (Reid, Elifson & Sterk, Violence & Victims Vol 21: Issue 1, quoted by the US DoJ.) <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/36.11.225.146|36.11.225.146]] ([[User talk:36.11.225.146#top|talk]]) 05:15, 18 July 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


"Endogenous" is used in the introduction. It's neither linked nor defined. It's a $5 word. A $0.50 word would be better. Failing that, it would be helpful if it were a link to something - Wiktionary or an appropriate Wikipedia page. Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/108.64.118.44|108.64.118.44]] ([[User talk:108.64.118.44|talk]]) 00:48, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
== Add a non-human animal subsection to "Research" and mention a study on octopuses ==
:{{done}} --[[User:WikiLinuz|<span style="font-family:Optima;color:#292928;">'''Wiki'''<span style="color:red;">'''''Linuz'''''</span></span>]] {[[User_talk:WikiLinuz|<span style="font-family:Optima;">talk</span>]]} 01:11, 20 July 2023 (UTC)


== The BP in a medium vacuum should not be listed ==
Greetings,
I would like to propose adding a subsection for non-human animals to [[MDMA#Research]] and describe the effects of MDMA on octopuses (see e.g. this [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982218309916 study]). Any objections or further suggestions? [[User:Plasmastate|Plasmastate]] ([[User talk:Plasmastate|talk]]) 18:04, 21 July 2022 (UTC)


The infobox currently lists the boiling point at 0.4 mmHg, which is a medium vacuum. It is not sourced, and it doesn't say whether this is the free base or what salt it is. This is nearly useless information and it isn't sourced, it should simply be removed. The melting points of the free base and any common salts, at atmospheric pressure, would be interesting data to add. Boiling point in a vacuum is silly. [[Special:Contributions/209.6.225.254|209.6.225.254]] ([[User talk:209.6.225.254|talk]]) 09:36, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
== Lead sentence ==


== Is MDMA a psychedelic or not? ==
The lead sentence says "crystal form (molly or mandy)". This is correct, these are the most popular terms for the crystallized version of MDMA.


The best source for this claim is that there may be 5HT2A agonism, which "supposedly contributes" to "mild psychedelic hallucinations" caused by "high doses" of MDMA. That's a lot of words to say that its status as a psychedelic is pretty flimsy.
However, "Molly" is U.S. English, whilst "Mandy" is U.K. English. This was also made clear in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MDMA&diff=1096039221&oldid=1095728010 the edit], however it is not clear in the article for the reader.


The other sources don't support that it is one, either, just that it's commonly referred to as one. This is similar to how cocaine is called a "narcotic," a legal stipulative definition that's quite different from the scientific one.
It should be made clear that "Molly" is the U.S. term, and "Mandy" is the U.K. term. Maybe with a footnote or similar? [[Special:Contributions/89.8.217.46|89.8.217.46]] ([[User talk:89.8.217.46|talk]]) 15:24, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
:I agree that this sort of detail is appropriate for the article, but not sure about it being in the [[WP:LEDE]]. The second sentence of {{article section|Forms}} has it. [[User:DMacks|DMacks]] ([[User talk:DMacks|talk]]) 16:25, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
::I agree to some extent; "Molly" might of originated in the United States, however, at this point I believe it has become more of a universal term, at least to some degree (see [[:no:MDMA]]), and should therefore be prioritized. I only support the idea of adding "Mandy" to an explanatory footnote (EFN). [[User:12u|12u]] ([[User talk:12u|talk]]) 23:08, 28 August 2022 (UTC)


I'm not arguing that MDMA isn't a psychedelic, but if these are the best sources we have I think it should be removed from the lead. [[Special:Contributions/2600:1017:B103:D814:CCC9:7381:FFDB:5A2D|2600:1017:B103:D814:CCC9:7381:FFDB:5A2D]] ([[User talk:2600:1017:B103:D814:CCC9:7381:FFDB:5A2D|talk]]) 17:51, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
== Semi-protected edit request on 30 January 2023 ==


:MDMA is not in any way, shape or form, a ''classic psychedelic'', meaning that it cannot be directly compared to [[LSD]], [[psilocybin]], or even [[mescaline]], but it ''is'' somewhat closer to mescaline than many other things that people consider to have psychedelic properties, such as [[cannabis]], [[ketamine]], [[salvia divinorum]], and even [[muscimol]]. The lead says it has "minor psychedelic properties", but that doesn't mean that it ''is'' a psychedelic. Perhaps we just need some clarification in the lead that while it has ''minor psychedelic properties'', it is not technically a psychedelic. [[User:Thoric|Thoric]] ([[User talk:Thoric|talk]]) 18:35, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
'''Please take down my name, Mandy, from being associated with the illicit drug MDMA.'''


== Bruxism → Chewing Gum? ==


Should we add that some users chew gum in order to deal with grinding teeth? Since the article is semi-protected, I wanted to check before just adding it in (especially since finding a good source for this is trickier than I though). [[User:Niplav|Niplav]] ([[User talk:Niplav|talk]]) 13:57, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Thank you,


== The role of Danny Leclère in the production of XTC as partydrug ==
edit semi-protected|MDMA|answered=no}}
[[Special:Contributions/2601:C2:2:CBC:2911:8093:FEB0:9098|2601:C2:2:CBC:2911:8093:FEB0:9098]] ([[User talk:2601:C2:2:CBC:2911:8093:FEB0:9098|talk]]) 06:25, 30 January 2023 (UTC)


I have a proposition to add some text regarding [[Danny Leclère]] who developed in the 1990's a formula to produce "pure XTC" as party drug and set up a worldwide illegal network to have the drugs distributed. It's because if him XTC became popular in nightlife. The formula of Leclère is still the most used in the manufacturing of (illegal) XTC. Valid/Trusted references can be found in the article about [[Danny Leclère]]. I think a short topic in the article of MDMA is advisable due to Leclère his role in production/distribution of illegal XTC. [[User:Ino mart|Ino mart]] ([[User talk:Ino mart|talk]]) 15:31, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
== MDMA Rescheduled in Australia ==


:is "pure XTC" MDMA? [[User:Bon courage|Bon courage]] ([[User talk:Bon courage|talk]]) 15:55, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
I propose that the Australian legal section be updated to reflect that the Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration has rescheduled MDMA to Schedule 8 (Controlled Drug) from Schedule 9 (Prohibited Substance) for certain uses. From 1 July 2023, MDMA can be prescribed for the treatment of post traumatic stress disorder.
::According the documentary "Bad, Bad Belgium" the term "pure XTC" refers to the formula by Leclère: it is the first XTC-formula which only contains MDMA as drug. At that time, MDMA-drugs also contained other ingredients such as meta-Chlorophenylpiperazine and para-Methoxy-N-methylamphetamine.

https://www.tga.gov.au/news/media-releases/change-classification-psilocybin-and-mdma-enable-prescribing-authorised-psychiatrists [[User:Axe L Thief|Axe L Thief]] ([[User talk:Axe L Thief|talk]]) 00:43, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Revision as of 23:15, 19 March 2024


Edit request 19 July 2023

"Endogenous" is used in the introduction. It's neither linked nor defined. It's a $5 word. A $0.50 word would be better. Failing that, it would be helpful if it were a link to something - Wiktionary or an appropriate Wikipedia page. Thanks! 108.64.118.44 (talk) 00:48, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done --WikiLinuz {talk} 01:11, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The BP in a medium vacuum should not be listed

The infobox currently lists the boiling point at 0.4 mmHg, which is a medium vacuum. It is not sourced, and it doesn't say whether this is the free base or what salt it is. This is nearly useless information and it isn't sourced, it should simply be removed. The melting points of the free base and any common salts, at atmospheric pressure, would be interesting data to add. Boiling point in a vacuum is silly. 209.6.225.254 (talk) 09:36, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is MDMA a psychedelic or not?

The best source for this claim is that there may be 5HT2A agonism, which "supposedly contributes" to "mild psychedelic hallucinations" caused by "high doses" of MDMA. That's a lot of words to say that its status as a psychedelic is pretty flimsy.

The other sources don't support that it is one, either, just that it's commonly referred to as one. This is similar to how cocaine is called a "narcotic," a legal stipulative definition that's quite different from the scientific one.

I'm not arguing that MDMA isn't a psychedelic, but if these are the best sources we have I think it should be removed from the lead. 2600:1017:B103:D814:CCC9:7381:FFDB:5A2D (talk) 17:51, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

MDMA is not in any way, shape or form, a classic psychedelic, meaning that it cannot be directly compared to LSD, psilocybin, or even mescaline, but it is somewhat closer to mescaline than many other things that people consider to have psychedelic properties, such as cannabis, ketamine, salvia divinorum, and even muscimol. The lead says it has "minor psychedelic properties", but that doesn't mean that it is a psychedelic. Perhaps we just need some clarification in the lead that while it has minor psychedelic properties, it is not technically a psychedelic. Thoric (talk) 18:35, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bruxism → Chewing Gum?

Should we add that some users chew gum in order to deal with grinding teeth? Since the article is semi-protected, I wanted to check before just adding it in (especially since finding a good source for this is trickier than I though). Niplav (talk) 13:57, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The role of Danny Leclère in the production of XTC as partydrug

I have a proposition to add some text regarding Danny Leclère who developed in the 1990's a formula to produce "pure XTC" as party drug and set up a worldwide illegal network to have the drugs distributed. It's because if him XTC became popular in nightlife. The formula of Leclère is still the most used in the manufacturing of (illegal) XTC. Valid/Trusted references can be found in the article about Danny Leclère. I think a short topic in the article of MDMA is advisable due to Leclère his role in production/distribution of illegal XTC. Ino mart (talk) 15:31, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

is "pure XTC" MDMA? Bon courage (talk) 15:55, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
According the documentary "Bad, Bad Belgium" the term "pure XTC" refers to the formula by Leclère: it is the first XTC-formula which only contains MDMA as drug. At that time, MDMA-drugs also contained other ingredients such as meta-Chlorophenylpiperazine and para-Methoxy-N-methylamphetamine.

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