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Reviewer: Calvin NaNaNaC'mon! 15:20, 6 August 2011 (UTC) Will begin shortly, 9th August.[reply]

Thanks a bunch! —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 16:33, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, quite a few things are concerning me about this article. It will take a while to review. I'm surprised this has been Peer Reviewed because a lot of the prose is awkward to read and doesn't flow, making it difficult, and as a result uninteresting, to read. Calvin NaNaNaC'mon! 16:10, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's OK. I knew that was coming. Take your time. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 16:30, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to do one section at a time, and wait for you to make those changes to that section before I move onto the next, as to not bombard you with a load of corrections. Calvin NaNaNaC'mon! 16:33, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea. Makes the most sense. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 16:41, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it well written?
    A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
    B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
  2. Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?
    A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
    B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
    C. It contains no original research:
    D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
    B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
  4. Is it neutral?
    It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
  5. Is it stable?
    It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
  6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
    A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:
    B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:


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Lead info

Resolved comments

  1. Barbadian doesn't need to be linked, Bajan is actually the correct term.
  2. "on the chorus" → Not needed, it doesn't matter how much you do, if you a featured, then you are featured, no need to state the specifics here.
  3. "It was produced by English hip hop producer Alex da Kid with the chorus written by American singer-songwriter Skylar Grey. Additional vocal production on Rihanna's vocals were provided by Makeba Riddick." → Start with the three writers, remove the bit about Grey writing the chorus as it is not needed here, then say who produced it, and keep it in one sentence as it is talking about the same thing.
  4. "Eminem and his manager originally reached out to Rihanna when he had heard the track that Kid produced." → Why?
  5. "The song marks Alex da Kid's first collaboration with Eminem." → Short and awkward to read, incorporate into another sentence, preferably the where you mention the producers above. Actually, this is irrelevant, remove it. It's also his first time working with Rihanna, but you haven't mentioned it, it's not needed.
  6. "Eminem dedicated this song to people who have been through a bad relationship, as the song is about someone whom he loves but the girl does not love him back." → Introduce this sentence with "Lyrically, the song is about... and Eminem dedicated the song...".
  7. "that incorporates aggressive themes" → Example?
  8. ""Love the Way You Lie" also incorporates themes of domestic violence." → Too short, awkward to read, expand, move or remove.
  9. "The song has been covered and remixed by The Pretty Reckless, Yomo, Cher Lloyd, Ariana Grande, Alex Feather Akimov and Rudiger." → How about: "The song has been covered by a multitude of other recording artists, including..."
  10. "A sequel to the song titled "Love the Way You Lie (Part II)" was recorded and released on Rihanna's album, Loud. The song is mainly told from the female perspective, unlike the original." → Two short and weak sentences, they are talking about the same thing, so why two separates sentences? It makes it so labouring to read with these constant short sentences, it just reads like a list of hard facts. This will apply to other sections in the article too.
  11. "largely positive reception" → Poor choice of words.
  12. "Rihanna's appearance in the song" → Poor choice of word, find another for "appearance". She is vocally in the song, not physically.
  13. "The chemistry between Eminem and Rihanna was widely-praised as well." → Short, awkward. Why not include in the previous section?
  14. "It claimed the top spot on 23 national charts worldwide, performing especially well in the United States, peaking at number one on the US Hot 100 for seven consecutive weeks, giving Eminem his fourth number-one hit on the chart and Rihanna her seventh. " → This is a good example of sentence structure. You have covered all the points in one clear and concise sentence, it was interesting and engaging to read. This is what you should be doing with your sentences. Incorporating the facts in to one well balanced sentence, not a load of 7 word sentences with is annoying to read.
  15. "and was the best-selling" → "and became the best-selling"
  16. "23 national charts" → "twenty-three national charts" Also, by national do you mean 23 US charts? Or is it a mistake and you mean 23 international charts? As I don't think there are 23 charts this song could possibly chart on in the US, is there? Is there even 23 US Billboard charts?
  17. "earned Eminem six awards and 17 other nominations" → "earned Eminem six awards out of seventeen nominations around the world"
  18. "getting nods" → 'nods' ? Awful choice of word.
  19. "The accompanying music video was directed by Joseph Kahn." → When was it shot? Where was it shot? Date and location is needed here, it's another very short sentence.
  20. "The video stars thespians Dominic Monaghan and Megan Fox as a couple in a love-hate relationship. Throughout the plot, they fight, kiss and make up multiple times." → Re-word this to be one sentence.
  21. "The video caused controversy because of the heavy occurrence of domestic violence in it" → "However, the video sparked controversy, because of the heavy and explicit themes of domestic violence."
  22. "Fans and reporters also speculated that the video may be related to the personal relationships of Eminem and Rihanna with Kimberly Scott (Kim Mathers) and Chris Brown respectively" → "Additionally, fans and music critics speculated..." Also, put a "," before "respectively".

This may look harsh, but it's in the best interest for the article. The prose is bad in the sense that it just doesn't flow cohesively and it constantly interrupted by the abundant use of full stops ("."). It just reads like a list of hard facts, with no connecting words in between to make them flow. Put a  Done marking the ones which you have done, or a  Not done marking those which you have not done, with a reason for your concern. Calvin NaNaNaC'mon! 19:33, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Done all. Thanks for being extremely patient and constructive. Most reviewers would've probably failed the article. Check to make sure I did them right. The national charts issue was factually wrong. It claimed 26 charts total worldwide. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 20:34, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That's alright. The way I see it is that if the editor is hard working and conscientious, they will make the changes a.s.a.p. I don't see the point of failing for just one thing, if everyone did, then articles would never pass first time round. Plus, it's just annoying to wait weeks and maybe months to get another reviewer, I think if possible, then articles should be made as good as possible as soon as possible so that it is reliable and factual for readers, but if the prose is horrific, no grammar, no formatted references, missing information, then that is different. But for things like what I have mentioned, they are quickly and easily changed as don't warrant a fail straight away. Anyway...! haa. Calvin NaNaNaC'mon! 21:13, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This is great as I am addressing your issues and writing the "E.T." (song) review simultaneously. I can use your advice for better reviewing. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 21:19, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Section  Done Calvin NaNaNaC'mon! 14:37, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Background

  1. ""Love the Way You Lie" was released by Interscope Records as the second single off of Recovery due to a leak that surfaced on June 8, 2010.[1][2]" → ""Love the Way You Lie" was released as the second single from the album through Interscope Records, due to the song leaking on to the internet on June 8, 2010.[1][2]"
  2. "in the song as in the three verses," → Doesn't make sense. "in the song's verses"
  3. ""['Love the Way You Lie'] showcases a domestic-violence dispute between a liquor-addled couple," as stated by reporter Erik Hayden from web magazine The Atlantic Wire.[3]" → This is confusing because in the previous sentence you say how Jayson from MTV explains the songs lyrical meaning and then this sentence starts off with a quote, then says that someone else commented about it. When talking about a critic and what he said, always start with saying "'Whoever' of 'whatever'", not starting with the quote itself.
  4. "The song was composed and produced by English hip hop record producer Alex da Kid and while Eminem wrote his own verses, American recording artist Skylar Grey wrote the chorus, as performed by Rihanna.[note 1][5][6]" → I think this should be in the Composition section really.
  5. "Eminem spoke about many collaborations within Recovery" → Who did he speak with?
  6. "and Rihanna. "And the other one I did with Rihanna is one of those tracks that I felt like only she could pull it off, only she could do it," he said.[8]" → "and Rihanna, saying "And the other one I did with Rihanna is one of those tracks that I felt like only she could pull it off, only she could do it."[8]
  7. "Approximately" → why is this italicised?
  8. "and liked it as he would go on to doing a sequel to the song." → Awkward wording.
  9. You keep flipping between saying Alex da Kid and Kid. You say Alex da Kid the first in the article, then for every time you mention him after, say da Kid. So you will have to go through his section from the start making those changes.
  10. ""I definitely want to get Rihanna on this," said Eminem." → Why is this quote in a sentence by itself with no explanation about it?
  11. "Eminem's manager, Paul Rosenberg, sent the track to Rihanna, who liked it." → This needs to be re-worded, it's short and reads awkward.
  12. "While Eminem's" → "Whilst Eminem's"
  13. "Em reminds me of one of my friends from back home. It was just so natural. I forgot in two seconds that he was the biggest-selling artist of the decade. He knows what he’s doing. Me and him mixed [the song] together and he’s not like somebody that’s telling somebody what to do. We were both on the board turning knobs. The atmosphere and the vibe down there was just super cool.

—Alex da Kid, on Rap-Up.[10]" → This just looks weird with the "—Alex da Kid, on Rap-Up." This quote should be stylised like how you have done the quote here on the right hand side. Also, it should say "in an interview with Rap Up", not "On Rap-Up".

 Done all. One thing, however. where did you see "Approximately" in italics? It's fine on my browser. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 15:27, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I mean't capitalised. Calvin NaNaNaC'mon! 15:36, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed. I thought the semicolon was a period (full stop). —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 15:38, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Composition

Critical reception

Chart performance

Music video - Development

Music video - Synopsis

Music video - Reception

Live performances and covers

Sequel

Awards and nominations

Track listing

Credits and personnel

Charts and certifications - Weekly charts

Charts and certifications - Certifications

Charts and certifications - Year-end charts

Charts and certifications - Chart precession and succession

Release history

References

Overall review

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