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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 December 2019

Hi, Please check IMDB link, as per this please update kannada film Kurshetra as 2nd highest grossed Movie. https://www.imdb.com/list/ls063689880/ SRK Santy (talk) 15:12, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: IMDb typically cannot be used as a reliable source on Wikipedia. See the information at WP:Citing IMDb for more information. Please cite a different source. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 16:06, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Seconding what ElHef said above. That IMDb list is just some random content created by a user called Samrudh_David. It is not content that IMDb has created or vetted. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:22, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The sources of the collections of 2.0 seem dubious

Please recheck the collections of 2.0 film. Neither source gives accurate figures. In fact one of them does not give an estimate at all.

Another source puts it at 655 crore

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/box-office/2-0-final-box-office-collection-all-format-the-rajinikanth-starrer-helmed-by-s-shankar-is-the-sixth-highest-grossing-indian-film-ever/articleshow/67989955.cms — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.172.210.47 (talk) 02:20, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, well, I tracked the 823.3 figure down to this edit by Sapian sam, who is now blocked for competency concerns, POV editing, etc. What I think happened, was that 2.0 was released globally, and grossed roughly 800 crore. However, it later released in China, so there should have been some extra income from that. I think Sapian sam was trying to include that, but was having trouble sourcing, so they opted for the poor reference Oracle Globe. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:18, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the clarification. However, two things persist. First, PK has a collection of 832 crores. Why is it below 2.0 in the list? Second, the source that says 2.0 earned 800 crore does not give a correct estimate at all. Why not use the collections from boxoffice India since that is the source for the collections of Bahubali and other films? The collection list is here. Even PK's collections are only 750 crores!
https://www.boxofficeindia.com/all_format_worldwide_gross.php — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.171.75.158 (talk) 05:55, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I also have some questions about BOI's accuracy in this case, since 1) they tend to focus more on Hindi, 2) they failed to update the gross here and 3) it's unclear if the Chinese figures were included in the gross. Unfortunately the last time the Wayback Machine archived their top grossers list was in March 2019, so there's no way to see if they tracked an increase after the Chinese release. Contrarily, this source suggests a 750 crore figure for 2.0 in its second week of release. No doubt it made money thereafter. 800 crore per DNA, 800 crore per India.com. 14 crore on day 2 of the Chinese release. So I think the BOI figure is probably a low-ball. But that said, presenting the data as a range might be appropriate. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 08:42, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 December 2019

GiGiAccurate (talk) 10:46, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Highest Grossing Malayalam movies 1.Pulimurugan-153 crore(latest producers estimate). source: https://uk.blastingnews.com/entertainment/2017/02/puli-murugan-150-days-collections-total-worldwide-and-new-poster-details-001498655.html 2.Abrahaminte Santhathikal-80.20 core(unconfirmed estimate made on producers' Facebook post on its figures). source: https://www.filmymela.com/abrahaminte-santhathikal-box-office-collection/ 3.Kayamkulam Kochunni-76.82 core source:https://www.newscoopz.com/kayamkulam-kochunni-becomes-the-second-100-crore-club-movie-of-mollywood/


(The rest of the films in the highest grossing Malayalam films section on Wikipedia is correct but I just want to correct this because according to the kerala producers association they decided not to allow twitter accounts to ruin Malayalam movie images and box office reports and to only listen to the reports sent by the official producer. The websites and 'producers' on twitter claim to be trackers but are not as they have no solid source or claim and are leading away many people. On the other hand, other indian language trackers rely on the producers for their figures or just estimate based on latest figure released by producers and no. of rounded tickets sold in main multiplexes etc, and based on tax exemption of the year and hype figure and business divided by the revenue income. I hope In the future that proper south indian box office pages e.g. box office mojo type pages will emerge with source/reference and solid proof. I hope Wikipedia can help find trusted websites and ther figures and post the correct box office collections of indian films. If you want I can also help out with doing so.)

GiGiAccurate (talk) 10:57, 14 December 2019 (UTC) Sorry I also forgot that actually in my first post to mention Lucifer's gross- it is actually 200 crore according to many producer sources and estimates. But the thing is that other producers claim it only made around 135 crore but I believe it made 200 crore because of the giant amount of buzz and hype surrounding the film made on a budget of 60 crore and the amount of mony received by overseas producers. source:https://www.eastcoastdaily.in/2019/05/16/mohanlals-lucifer-crosses-200-crore-at-box-office.html(this source was regarding how the producers posted on Facebook and other social media platforms that Lucifer is the highest grossing Malayalam movie beating Pulimurugan and the first 200 crore Malayalam grosser in worldwide gross revenue terms).[reply]

 Not done: @GiGiAccurate: Hi there, please don't submit multiple edit requests or discussions about the same topic as you did here. If you need to add or change your post you can do so by clicking "Edit" as long as nobody has responded to it yet.
Moving on, not a single one of the references you've submitted are sufficient for consideration. We don't care what blogs or other faceless random websites say or think. We only care what major mainstream sources say about a film's financials. The biggest problem we have at articles like these is with people who, for whatever reason, think they have a better comprehension about how much a film made than what the mainstream sources say. The bottom line is that there is no Truth with a capital-T when it comes to Indian film financials. The directors, distributors, studios, actors, often lie and inflate or deflate figures as suits their needs. Actors want to be the next 100 crore star, studios want to lure more people into theatres by enticing them to be part of the 200 crore spectacle! So it would be foolish to assume their claims as truth, and there is no central auditing system in place to suggest any sort of accuracy at all.
So the only thing we're left with are secondary sources who perform whatever estimations they perform, by whatever means they perform. Unsatisfactory? Maybe. But that's Indian film finances for you. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:25, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 December 2019

Azusas2 (talk) 08:39, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/malayalam/mamangam-mammootty-box-office-opening-weekend-collection-worldwide-6170093/

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:51, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Update Records

Mamangam movie of Mammootty have collected more than 100 crores on box office . Please update this record as well. Pokemonhage (talk) 13:15, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mamankam 135 cr gross MadhuraRaja 100.4 cr gross Sarin Sulphi (talk) 14:37, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Sarin Sulphi and Pokemonhage: Unsourced requests do not result in changes to the article. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:59, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 December 2019

you added Baahubali: The Beginning, Baahubali 2: The Conclusion and Sahoo in Tamil movie list but you didnd added 2.0 , Enthiran , petta, kabali,Bigil in telugu movie list Guru ark (talk) 17:55, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done - @Guru ark: Why would we do that? None of those films were shot in Telugu. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:04, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How about Saaho? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trueful (talk • contribs) 12:14, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Trueful: What's the question? Saaho was shot simultaneously in three languages, including Tamil and Telugu. According to how we have the page set up, it would belong in both the Telugu and Tamil lists. I don't understand your question. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:10, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Can Someone explain why Bigil is mentioned above Kabali, the link(https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tamil/movies/news/after-egypt-vijays-bigil-marks-an-entry-in-jordan/articleshow/71917663.cms) which is mentioned for source itself clearly mention that 270+ crores which means it should be below Kabali(Which has a similar collection). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trueful (talk • contribs) 12:20, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The content appears to be added here by Hemanth Dx, who didn't bother updating the references, and apparently who didn't see the gross range at the Bigil article. Fixing. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:10, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bahubali- part 1 & 2 and sahoo is been produced and Registered in South indian film chamber as Telugu movie Production only. Its clearly understood that you people showing discrimination towards Tamil movies and you want telugu movies in the list of Tamil movies and never want Tamil production movie (2pointO) Which all most collected in and around 100cr only in telugu version. Tamil audience already had a complained on Tamil version of saaho had Lip sync problem thats why sahoo was a big disaster in all southern version specially in Tamil kannada and malayalam. you should definitely add 2pointO in telugu list and remove saaho from the tamil list. anyway its nice you replying us. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guru ark (talk • contribs) 21:49, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Guru ark: I'm sorry that you don't like the answer I provided above, but your claims of discrimination are nonsensical. I have no idea what relevance lip sync has to this discussion. Since around 2015 when Baahubali came out, and was filmed in two languages, the standard has been to include multilingual films in multiple tables. You are confusing language of production with ethnic film industry. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:56, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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