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Respected Sir, According to recent news statement published in International Business Times, Kirik Party has grossed 45 crores and is nearing to 50 crores. I request you to kindly update the page with correct information. Necessary link related to news statement has been attached with this request.

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/rakshit-shettys-kirik-party-inches-closer-rs-50-crore-mark-box-office-75-days-719391

Thank u — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shrinayakwiki (talk • contribs) 03:53, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Respected sir, According to Kannada box office and several news articles recently hebbuli movie has crossed the gross of 50 crores so I would like u to edit the info Suraj Sudeep (talk) 01:45, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You will need to provide solid references. Before you respond, see WP:RS, and more specifically, WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources to get a better idea for what sources are and are not considered reliable. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:30, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sir i am requesting u just pluck off raajakumara which has no official declarations on collection but u still included it please understand we ade getting betrayed

Suraj Sudeep (talk) 16:55, 4 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Suraj Sudeep: I don't know what you mean by "official declarations", since 1) we don't use primary sources as definitive sources of controversial information like finances, since a director/producer/actor/distrubutor/etc. would have every reason to inflate their "official" values and 2) There is no such thing as "official" film financial data in Indian cinema. Everything is an estimate. So whatever point you are trying to make is unclear, and the lack of references doesn't shed a whole lot of light on the matter. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:17, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sir you have changed the collection of Kannada movie maanikya but in the Wikipedia page of the movie maanikya it is stated with source that it has earned 43.5 crores so I would like you to change the same accordingly Suraj Sudeep (talk) 12:35, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Suraj Sudeep: - I believe you're referring to this edit, which was made by user Tevar shaa, not by me. To answer your question, when we consider a film's gross, we're talking only about money made at the box office. We're not interested in secondary revenue streams like satellite rights sales, music rights sales, etc. The 43.5 crore value at Maanikya was erroneously including these values and has been fixed in this edit. According to Indiaglitz, the film grossed about 35 crore rupees. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 12:53, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ok sir then u have the proof for hebbuli to cross 50 crores but why haven't u updated yet

http://m.dailyhunt.in/news/india/kannada/filmibeat+kannada-epaper-filmikan/syaandal+vud+na+aal+taim+rekaard+udis+maadidha+hebbuli-newsid-65099533?ss=wsp&s= Suraj Sudeep (talk) 17:01, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've never heard of dailyhunt.in and don't see it as an approved source at WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources. However, if the content is being derived from Filmibeat, which the logo on the page would seem to suggest, I'd be averse to using this source as a reference, since Filmibeat is expressly indicated as an unreliable source. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:06, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sir i still have another proof for hebbuli crossing 50 crores http://uk.blastingnews.com/entertainment/2017/03/hebbuli-2-weeks-14-days-collection-in-karnataka-till-date-001531701.html Suraj Sudeep (talk) 14:44, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello bro last year blockbuster mukunda murari has completed a gross of 50 crores as stated in your wikipedia page so please change Suraj Sudeep (talk) 05:24, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Suraj Sudeep: You mean the unexplained, unsourced addition that was made in this edit? I don't think so. Please bring reliable sources to the talk page if you want other editors to consider changes. See WP:ICTF#Guideliens on sources for examples of what are and are not suitable for inclusion. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:54, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Why this page cant upload malayalam movie collection updates Check the collection about that film. The great father fastest 50 cr+ collection world wide....and also it running successfully in gulf countries and india Check the updates admin Muhaismuhammed (talk) 15:16, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Muhaismuhammed: Complaining without bringing references doesn't get the data updated any faster. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:37, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Muhaismuhammed: Oh, and I just remembered that a lot of the early financial data was coming from the filmmakers, which I believe is why some editors opted not to include the data. Filmmakers are considered primary sources, and we don't typically use primary sources for controversial claims like for finances. A producer/director/actor would have every reason to inflate their box office figures. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:44, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Abbas:http://www.filmibeat.com/malayalam/news/2017/the-great-father-box-office-enters-50-crore-club-259046.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abbas.j63 (talk • contribs) 04:31, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Abbas.j63: Filmibeat is not generally considered a reliable source by the Indian cinema task force at Wikipedia. Please find mainstream news sites that support the figures. See WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources for examples of sources that are and are not generally considered reliable. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:39, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Crossed 50 crore mark and it is not added here Abbas.j63 (talk) 04:26, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@abbas.j63 : http://www.filmibeat.com/malayalam/news/2017/the-great-father-box-office-enters-50-crore-club-259046.html Abbas.j63 (talk) 04:35, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You posted this twice. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:37, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please include The Great Father in the highest grossing Malayalam film section. 'The Great Father Box Office: Enters 50-Crore Club!'

Read more at: http://www.filmibeat.com/malayalam/news/2017/the-great-father-box-office-enters-50-crore-club-259046.html Sunnyjos (talk) 19:48, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: @Sunnyjos: Filmibeat is not generally considered a reliable source for financial data. Please see WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources for examples of sources that are and are not generally considered reliable. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:01, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

already rajkumaras film declard his gross box office collection in wikipedia page premls 07:44, 23 April 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prem LS (talk • contribs)

@Prem LS: -  Not done - 1) We don't use primary sources for box office claims. Producers/directors/actors would have every reason to inflate their financial figures. 2) Edit requests should be accompanied by reliable sources. See WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources, but again, see point #1, as primary sources should not be used. 3) New comments go at the bottom of talk pages. I have moved your comment for you. Please sign your posts with four tildes ~~~~. Thank you. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 09:09, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Vathanlal (talk) 09:37, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. @Vathanlal: Your edit request was blank. No idea what change you're requesting. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 10:05, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Taniya94: Your pet project, the Highest grossing Indian franchise and film series table you created, has been flagged for cleanup since November.

1. Is there a reason why we're using US dollars in the table when everything else in this article is in Rupees? Previous discussions at the Indian cinema task force suggest the vocal community doesn't find much value in focusing on US dollars.
2. The "highest-grossing film" column should probably become "highest-grossing film in franchise" just for clarity
3. The figures in parentheticals are odd, especially with the references wedged inside the parens. Maybe another column for the references would be a better way to present this data?

Thank you, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:47, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, it would be much more sensible if the box office figures were in Rupees as there is always a constant fluctuation of the USD vs INR value. ~Rajan51 (talk) 14:57, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• • If you can make it in INR from USD, then please do it. But this table includes the list of every film released under a franchise, so, do not delete the list. Please see, List of highest-grossing films#Highest-grossing franchises and film series. Taniya94 (talk) 14:31, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bahubali- conclusion- 145cr Pasyavula gopi (talk) 10:27, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Pasyavula gopi: Unsourced declarations are not terribly helpful. Please provide reference. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:51, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

So, the debate starts again and it is decided that Bahubali is a Tamil-Telugu biilingual. Only thing is, the Tamilians write it the hero’s name as Magendira/Amarendira Bagubali and non-Tamilians read it as Makenthira/Amarenthira Pakupali. Wonder what sort of a movie is that when you can’t even write it’s name in the language it is shot.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.65.47.223 (talk • contribs)

What is your question/suggestion? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:50, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Question is simple. Why is it tagged as a Tamil movie? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.65.47.223 (talk) 06:49, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Because according to sources it was filmed simultaneously in Telugu and Tamil. The language column is not intended to equate to "ethnic ownership". Cyphoidbomb (talk) 13:58, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You have seriously messed up the narative, my friend. Most of the Rajanikanth and Kamal Hassan movies are shot as bilinguals and if what you claim is the basis for deciding the language of a movie, then, the article needs a serious rejig. Reveling in false pride is a non-issue for us but, the reality is that, this page is not for chauvinisms and chest thumpings, be it Hindi or Tamil or whatever. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.65.47.223 (talk • contribs)

1) Please sign your posts with four tildes ~~~~. This appends a signature and time stamp so that other editors know who said what and when. 2) I have no idea what you're going on about, re: "the narative". The film was shot in two languages. What do you want the encyclopedia to do? Pretend that this fact does not exist? Or would you prefer instead that we add a column to label each film by ethnic film industry? The latter is not likely to happen, since it's a bit ridiculous and would only be helpful in cases where films are produced in two different languages. If your original complaint is that since Baahubali was produced in two languages, there are inconsistencies with how character names are represented, it would seem that the simplest solution would be to create a table in the cast list with character names for each language. The remainder of the content, like the plot section, would probably be wise to focus on the Telugu names rather than giving both. Based on previous discussion at WT:ICTF that is my personal guess for what community preference might be. If I'm misinterpreting your query/position, feel free to clarify, but I genuinely don't know what it is that you want to see changed. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:02, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There has been a proposal to merge List of highest-grossing Indian films in overseas markets (since July 2016) and List of highest-grossing Telugu films (since August 2016). It's been almost a year and I propose that someone merge it soon. If there was an agreement earlier about not merging the above mentioned articles into this one then the templates should have been removed. I also would like to propose the merger of the article List of highest domestic nett collection of Hindi films into this one (or a deletion of that article) since it's very poorly written and doesn't serve much of a purpose. - Jayadevp13 13:45, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to propose that a new section be included with the name "Timeline of highest-grossing films" just like in the article List of highest-grossing films. It would be very informative. It can be started with films since the year 1990 then be expanded to include the earlier films. - Jayadevp13 13:51, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

1) Also what about films like Mughal-e-Azam ? In that case ]]Highest-grossing films adjusted for inflation]] will make sense Mrkks (talk) 21:52, 1 May 2017 (UTC)Mrkks[reply]

It is highly unlikely that Yajamana actually grossed 42 crores (somebody even removed the citation that was present for the same). The earlier reference was to some book, and the grammar in the page in which the dubious figure was mentioned, makes me apprehensive about the reliability of the book. No other source mentions the number and it should probably be removed from the Highest Kannada movies list. Jupitus Smart 15:53, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Jupitus Smart: I've been experiencing a great deal of trouble from Kannada film values lately... Looks like the reference was removed here by Sitush, who cited WP:MIRROR as a rationale. Sitush, any chance you could expound a bit? How do you know Wikipedia was the source of that content? Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:05, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Stuff published by Diamond Pocket Books is often very dodgy. The specific instance you mention was briefly referred to in this thread and I did some spot checks at the time that seemed to confirm the book's author was taking info from Wikipedia. - Sitush (talk) 16:16, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Sitush: Thanks for the explanation, esteemed colleague. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:24, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That solves that. Jupitus Smart 17:06, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please understand that Bahubali is a telugu film , not tamil. Veda chaitanya (talk) 05:45, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the archives discussions of this talk page. If memory serves, the film was shot in both languages (not dubbed into one as is common practice). We treat the film as both Tamil and Telugu. EvergreenFir (talk) 06:01, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It should be a "Telugu" film or "Telugu,Tamil and Hindi", but why it is showcased as "Telegu & Tamil" film? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.51.129.221 (talk) 15:15, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There is no ampersand (&) between Telugu and Tamil in the article, so your quotation is not representative of what the article says. "Telugu,Tamil and Hindi" would not be appropriate, since the movie was not filmed in Hindi. It was filmed in Telugu and Tamil, though. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:13, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The movie is currently 3rd in the Punjabi list. It has 4 references, three of which are from reliable sources which however does not mention the given numbers. The 4th reference is from a blog site called dekhnews [1] which is the source for the number. I don't think the site can be considered reliable. Should the movie be removed from the list. Jupitus Smart 18:51, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]