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Semi-protected edit request on 28 October 2016
In terms of celebrating the birthday of my article of over 1 month, and you remove my article with no reaction. I reposte my article...
A source for both Vijay starrer, Theri and Thuppaki. To prove, that catchnews.com is a realible source, i pick up some statements of the article, and proved the statements with some reliable sources.
In the article they said: "The Ilayathalapathy-starrer collected a record-breaking Rs 4 crore at the Chennai Box Office to see the highest four-day opening weekend ever in Chennai."
To prove that statement, indiaglitz reported:" In the capital city Chennai the film has collected a whopping Rs.5.53 crores in its first week."
In the article they said: "On it's opening day, Theri collected Rs 29 crore..."
To prove that statement, www.ibtimes.com reported: "Vijay's "Theri" has got a great start at the worldwide box office. The Tamil movie has raked in Rs. 28.96 crore worldwide from over 1200 screens on its first day."
In the article they said: "The Ilyathalapathy-starrer has also crossed the coveted Rs 100 crore in just six days..."
To prove that statement, www.ibtimes.co and indiaglitz.com reported the same.
In the article they said: "Theri was a blockbuster in Kerala too as it minted Rs 17.50 crore at the Box Office..."
To prove that statement, today indiaglitz published the gross of Tamil movies in Kerela..
All in all, this should enough to prove,
the reliability of this page.
Please update Theri and Thuppaki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:80:C50C:C401:25F3:F9F1:4E15:F17F (talk) 08:58, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
Premam gross
Re: this edit by Ananth sk who resubmitted content after it was challenged by Charles Turing, I think it's a bad idea to use slideshows like this as references. Slideshows aren't really journalistic articles and are almost certainly assembled by interns and lesser staff, not necessarily by reporters. Another thing to consider is that just because a number is higher doesn't mean that it's any more accurate than the last number that was there. They're both estimates. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:22, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
I resubmitted the content after it was challenged by Charles Turing because all the three references stated that the the collection of the movie was above 60 crore and one among them specifies it to be 63. If slideshows like this as mentioned above are not reliable resources to be used as references, please ignore the change that I made. Apologies for that edit . Ananth Sk (talk) 5:30 , 1st November 2016 (UTC)
- Not only about the slideshow, some sources states that it collected 60 cr, and some other says it to be over 60. All these are just estimates. There are always some odd sources for every film that states a different figure. For Premam I have came across such sources which cites 63cr, 67cr and even 75 cr, but haven't seen another single source supporting it, and sometimes contradicts themselves in another report. See this source for Drishyam from The Economic Times, it says "According to various traders' estimates, Drishyam was the first Malayalam film to collect Rs 100 crore at the box office..." - this is another example. Without fact checking, If we are citing these odd reports then we can easily manipulate any box office figure. Currently Premam is cited with sources from 6 different news agencies that reports an estimated 60 crore worldwide. --Charles Turing (talk) 13:22, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
- A certain amount of critical thinking is necessary as well, because in some cases, the sources might be reporting the totality of what the film made, including other revenue streams like rights sales, which we would not want to factor into the gross. Gross = box office ticket sales only. It's incumbent upon good editors to treat financial figures with great circumspection, and not make the assumption that simply because a number is higher or newer, that it is more accurate. Estimations are estimations. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:32, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Tollywood collection - Janatha garage to be at 4th
Janatha garage collection has to be modified Sreeitsme007 (talk) 02:20, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
Not done - Please provide reliable sources to support the changes you think should be made. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:38, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 4 November 2016
Shanshah12 (talk) 13:34, 4 November 2016 (UTC) 3 | style="background:#9fc;" |* Pulimurugan | 2016 | Vysakh | Mulakuppadam Films | ₹75 crore (US$9.0 million) | [1]
References
- ^ സ്വന്തം ലേഖകൻ (21 October 2016). "Pulimurugan enters 60 crore". Malayala Manorama. Retrieved 25 October 2016.
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. JTP (talk • contribs) 14:52, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
- The number 75 doesn't appear in the article and the title from what Google Translate tells me says Pulimurugan "to hit 60 crore" as if it hasn't even crossed that yet. So where does 75 crore come from? Dubious. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:35, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
- Malayala Manorama,Reporter According to these reports by two leading regional medias, the movie had already grossed 75 crore. Ananth Sk (talk) 06:07, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
Baahubali in Tamil list of highest grossing
Baahubali is a Telugu film with Telugu actors,made by Telugus.
Baahubali: The Beginning was produced in Tollywood, the center of Telugu language films in India, which is based out of Hyderabad. The film series is touted to be the most expensive in India till date.In February 2011, S. S. Rajamouli announced that he would star Prabhas in his upcoming movie.[14]
-this is from Baahubali's own wiki page. It is not a Tamil movie and should not be in Tamil list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:C4:4001:4748:DD9:5334:CD4B:BB3F (talk) 20:11, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
- This has been discussed in depth before. See the talk page archives. This isn't a list of Indian films organized by ethnic film industries, this is a list organized by languages. Baahubali was filmed in multiple languages, so it's listed under both languages. Sorry if that conflicts with your worldview. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:19, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
- I totally agree with Cyphoidbomb on what he has said. It is a telegu film and should be removed out of Tamil section
Rahrumi (talk) 17:40, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
- Apparently you don't agree with me, since I did not propose removing Baahubali from the Tamil list. The film was made in multiple languages, so it should be reflected in both. This was already resolved after a lengthy discussion. We're not here to puff up ethnic film industries. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:39, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
Veer-Zaara removal
In this edit I removed Veer-Zaara from the Highest-grossing by year table. The BOI reference did not resolve and a quick check of Archive.org did not turn up a useful reference. The data was silently restored here by Taniya94, but there were no new references added, and the BOI link still did not resolve. Taniya did not respond to my comments on their talk page, so I have again removed the data as insufficiently supported. Per WP:BURDEN, the onus is on Taniya to provide an appropriate reference if the content is restored. I have found some info at Archive.org at this link, but 1) the data is a bit conflicting as there are two Gross values, and 2) the source does not say that the film was the highest-grossing film of that year, which presents an additional and significant problem. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:57, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
@Kailash29792, Bollyjeff, and Charles Turing: and anyone else... I'm looking at this archive of a BOI report on Veer-Zaara. I'm having trouble understanding what is being communicated here because there are two "Total Gross" values, one significantly higher than the other. Also, since the data was being proposed for inclusion in a "Highest-grossing by year" table, do you have any thoughts about how we can determine if this film was the highest-grossing film of 2004? Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:00, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
- Forget that dead confusing source, there is a better written and a live url of it in BOI. For knowing the highest-grossing films in a given year, there is an option in BOI. See the 2004 list here. Both the sources tells only one gross value, ₹97 crore worldwide. The later reference will be useful in this case, as it cites Veer Zaara as the top grosser with figure. Hope this resolves the issue. --Charles Turing (talk) 19:58, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks to both of you. The archived source from Bollyjeff indicates 58 crore. I'm not able to see the other sources, as BOI is having difficulty resolving, but I'll check later. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:40, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
Regional Languages films into a section
I propose the inclusion of all regional languahes films into a section "Highest grossing regional languages films". Including all (highest grossing films, highest grossing films by year, highest grossing franchise) in the same list is making it a hotchpotch. Please catagorize it. Taniya94 (talk) 05:58, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for opening a discussion. I don't think that "regional" is a strong idea, because it tends to redefine the scope of the article sections, which are focused on language. You run into problems with films that were produced in multiple languages when you redefine what "region" the film belongs to. What about "Highest-grossing films by language"? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:49, 10 November 2016 (UTC)