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I can't remember how we normally close talkpage RFCs (do we use {{archive top}} and {{archive bottom}}, for example?), so I'll give a decision and a closing rationale and ask anyone to do the actual closing with my rationale.

Closing this RFC as Tamil and Telugu. The both-languages side has provided strength of sourcing, and the arguments of the Telugu-only side are weaker in sourcing and, indeed, appear to suffer from a lack of reality. Pradeeps369 makes a decent argument, suggesting that there's a standard classification (i.e. this is unambiguously Tollywood, so it should just be listed under Telugu), but no solid reasoning is given for making it a classification instead of a categorisation: why must it be only one, and why can't it be both Tollywood and Kollywood? Elspamo4 makes a good response, arguing that it's both.

Final advice, i.e. not part of the close itself: it would help if you'd come up with a way of indicating that this film and Vishwaroopam have editions in both languages, because when I came along and saw the discussion, I initially thought they were macaronic, i.e. a single film incorporating dialogue in both languages. Nyttend (talk) 11:19, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Every one knows and regard Baahubali as a Telugu movie but only the administrators are giving Tamil touch to it because in RFC clearly they classified movie as Tamil-Telugu instead of Telugu-Tamil. Only the administrators are in favour of Tamil and no user is involved in favouring it to Tamil which clearly explains .... it is Telugu movie. There is a difference between a movie which is single film incorporating dialogues from two languages which can be stated as bilingual movie but in this case it is a Telugu movie which is shot additionally in tamil how can they consider it as a bilingual film. Here no administrator is considering or bothered about the production or the team which made the movie. They are mainly bothered about the language, not a single administrator know about the film industries in India. There are many film industries which have their own rules and regulations and no film industry is related to one another. They have their own elections and representatives, taxations, etc and the list goes so on... If you don't consider these they what is the need to maintain this page. Then why hundreds of movie websites are running separately based on the different film industries. No relevant collections were considered in case of this movie. Tamil version of the movie which collected approx. 80 crores mentioned as 600 crores movie although it as nothing to do about Tamil. In international film festivals it will be released and also regarded as Telugu movie by the international media. Even in all the award nominations next year it will be clearly in TELUGU NOMINATIONS NOT TAMIL and all the awards will be declared in Telugu category only. Please do not provide such irrelevant and wrong data by giving wrong assumptions to people.

Padukati raju (talk) 21:27, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Of course we didnt consider collections. We considered whether the reliable sources presented that the film was created as a bilingual film. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:34, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As to Nyttend's actual concern, most Indian films are dubbed in multiple languages but perhaps a note or something can be worked on. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:54, 20 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Baahubali 72 days collection now 650 crores. Please update. http://aajkanaukri.howwhenandwhere.com/baahubali-72-days-collection

Mohitjoshi2410 (talk) 19:27, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done We only use reliably published sources with a reputation for fact checking and editorial oversight - like major news papers. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:32, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As per the merge consensus achieved to merge all Indian films into 1 article. No sources has been provided in article and would require refs to be added before merge. Lakun.patra (talk) 07:30, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect - we already have bengali languaeg films listed and there is no sourced content to merge. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 15:21, 27 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect - Seems like redirect is the way to go if the "merge from" article is unsourced. If the content can be sourced, then perhaps it could be merged. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:25, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tollywood movie srimanthudu has collected more than 200 crores according to latest stats but still showing the old stats Dharmendra Reddy Nara (talk) 07:54, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 09:40, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Source as requested: http://movies.ndtv.com/regional/from-mahesh-babu-to-srimanthudu-director-with-love-1220314 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.53.110.143 (talk) 15:51, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 Already done §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 09:31, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thuppakki total box office collection(all versions) is Rs. 138.56 crores and Kaththi total box box office collection is Rs. 144.5 crores (tamil version)(approx) 103.232.239.71 (talk) 08:23, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 08:30, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

1.32.70.80 (talk) 07:49, 12 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: as you have not requested a change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 10:59, 12 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Add Thuppaki to Tamil Highest Grossers as it collected 180 Crores in the Box Office citation http://www.moviecrow.com/News/1959/eros-announces-thuppaki-collected-rs180-crore Full Analysis Report : http://www.kollyinsider.com/2013/01/thuppakki-50-days-box-office-collections.html Ashikvc (talk) 00:43, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The site you have chosen as your reference appears to be a blog with no established reputation for fact-checking. Please find a unique source from a reliable publication. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:07, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Remove Veeram as It has collected only 77.5cr gross which does not include Satellite Rights and Dubbing Rights. Forbes Report is the total amount collected which does not come under theatrical gross(Amount Collected at the Theatre Box Office alone). The Total Box Office Collection of Veeram Report is here : http://www.metromasti.com/kollywood/news/Veeram-Vs-Jilla-worldwide-box-office-17-days-collection-2912014/37713 Ashikvc (talk) 01:00, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Gross box office values are what WikiProject Film cares about. We don't include DVD sales, TV rebroadcast, etc. etc. We aren't here to do detailed accounting of films, only to present basic information like budget and gross, which, by the way, are already of highly questionable reliability. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:14, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is the Annual Financial Report Submitted by Eros International To ICICI bank. This clearly explains the Thuppaki Total Gross which stands at 180 crores. citation: http://content.icicidirect.com/mailimages/IDirect_ErosIntl_Q3FY13.pdf This Information which has been submitted to the bank is surely not fake. Eros clearly has to pay tax for the amount they have said in their report. If this is not enough and as you have already told moviecrow information which is a huge kollywood review site and timesofindia which is again a huge Indian newspaper articles(Its a National newspaper they can't just write incorrect articles without verification), I am resubmitting this. Based on this please add Thuppakki to the list. citing timesofindia link again: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tamil/movies/news/Vijays-Thuppakki-makes-180-crore/articleshow/18691254.cms

122.164.190.4 (talk) 07:51, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Times is merely reporting that Eros stated they made a lot of money. Do you have third party that puts their validation on the clam? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 11:45, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The box office gross of Malayalam movie Drishyam, mentioned in the page is 60 crores. But the reference clearly mentions that, the said amount is only the amount collected in its theater run. The total gross of the movie is 75 crores according to their official facebook page.Reference - https://www.facebook.com/Movie.Drishyam/photos/a.586080214764319.1073741826.583839468321727/725803677458638/?type=3&theater It is requested to make the needful change. Athul Biju (talk) 11:05, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We go by what is verifiable by reliably published third party sources, not pages with no editorial oversight and a conflict of interest that would lead them to overstate the income. If you have a more recent third party source that gives a higher number, please present it. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 11:41, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Add Thuppaki to Tamil Highest Grossers as it collected 180 Crores in the Box Office citation http://www.moviecrow.com/News/1959/eros-announces-thuppaki-collected-rs180-crore Full Analysis Report : http://www.kollyinsider.com/2013/01/thuppakki-50-days-box-office-collections.html Ashikvc (talk) 00:43, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The site you have chosen as your reference appears to be a blog with no established reputation for fact-checking. Please find a unique source from a reliable publication. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:07, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Remove Veeram as It has collected only 77.5cr gross which does not include Satellite Rights and Dubbing Rights. Forbes Report is the total amount collected which does not come under theatrical gross(Amount Collected at the Theatre Box Office alone). The Total Box Office Collection of Veeram Report is here : http://www.metromasti.com/kollywood/news/Veeram-Vs-Jilla-worldwide-box-office-17-days-collection-2912014/37713 Ashikvc (talk) 01:00, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Gross box office values are what WikiProject Film cares about. We don't include DVD sales, TV rebroadcast, etc. etc. We aren't here to do detailed accounting of films, only to present basic information like budget and gross, which, by the way, are already of highly questionable reliability. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:14, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is the Annual Financial Report Submitted by Eros International To ICICI bank. This clearly explains the Thuppaki Total Gross which stands at 180 crores. citation: http://content.icicidirect.com/mailimages/IDirect_ErosIntl_Q3FY13.pdf This Information which has been submitted to the bank is surely not fake. Eros clearly has to pay tax for the amount they have said in their report. If this is not enough and as you have already told moviecrow information which is a huge kollywood review site and timesofindia which is again a huge Indian newspaper articles(Its a National newspaper they can't just write incorrect articles without verification), I am resubmitting this. Based on this please add Thuppakki to the list. citing timesofindia link again: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tamil/movies/news/Vijays-Thuppakki-makes-180-crore/articleshow/18691254.cms

Request #2

If you can accept IBTimes as a proof then watch this slideshow of top 10 grossers and can you please add Missing Movies(Thuppakki,Arrambam,Kanchana 2) and remove Veeram from the List. For your kind Information, This List Was prepared 5 months after Veeram Release and it clearly explains how Veeram is not a high grosser instead Ajith Kumar's Arrambam is indeed a high grosser.

Link: http://www.ibtimes.co.in/photos/all-time-highest-grossing-tamil-films-2881-slide-21707

122.164.190.4 (talk) 07:51, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done - You have already requested this change and it was declined. We don't use primary sources, in this case the production company, for controversial and potentially self gratifying box office values. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 12:22, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request #2

If you can accept IBTimes as a proof then watch this slideshow of top 10 grossers and can you please add Missing Movies(Thuppakki,Arrambam,Kanchana 2) and remove Veeram from the List. For your kind Information, This List Was prepared 5 months after Veeram Release and it clearly explains how Veeram is not a high grosser instead Ajith Kumar's Arrambam is indeed a high grosser.

Link: http://www.ibtimes.co.in/photos/all-time-highest-grossing-tamil-films-2881-slide-21707

122.164.190.4 (talk) 07:51, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Your slideshow link puts Thuppakki's gross at 122 crore, Arramban's at 124, and Kanchana's at 113. The IBTimes puts Veeram at 130

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/vijays-kaththi-ajiths-veeram-top-grossing-tamil-films-2014-618958 Cannolis (talk) 13:36, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah but IBTimes took the reference from Forbes. Forbes mentioned it like "earned 130 crores" they din't mention the word box office anywhere. As we have clearly discussed that the box office collection is what is taken into account. That 130 crore for Veeram is based on a huge confusion caused by Forbes which is Inclusive of Satellite Rights. Thus, I suggest you to update the list to ^[1]. Again to you're clarity Veeram 130 crores is inclusive of the satellite rights and distributor share, without it Veeram just minted 77.5 crores at the Box Office as the film ran for very few days as it shared screens with Jilla. There is a difference between earned and Grossed. Inclusive of all shares and rights the film earned 132 crores that's what Forbes told and Forbes article was not focused on Veeram Collection but on the top 100 celeb list on India. Ashikvc (talk) 14:27, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. I don't see on the Forbes source where it specifies the earnings as inclusive of satellite rights. Do you have a link to a different Forbes reference that states this? I also do not see on the IBTimes slideshow that the gross figures are not inclusive of satellite rights. If you can find reliable sources for each film that clearly discern between pure box office and total gross, will reconsider Cannolis (talk) 16:18, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Telugu movie srimanthudu collections full run stands at 144.45 http://www.ibtimes.co.in/srimanthudu-total-worldwide-box-office-collection-mahesh-babu-starrers-lifetime-earnings-rs-650528 Aravitejareddy (talk) 12:03, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done thanks for helping improve Wikipedia, Aravitejareddy! —Skyllfully ^(talk | _contribs) 04:51, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The same IBTimes talked about Srimanthudu collecting 165.5 Cr in 28 days in the article http://www.ibtimes.co.in/box-office-collection-srimanthudu-has-edge-over-kick-2-baahubali-bahubali-645448. So, we should take 200Cr as the final figure as mentioned in Business Standard. It is also a known fact that Srimanthudu is 2nd highest grossing Telugu movie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhuvannalla (talk • contribs) 14:22, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In tamil thuppaki grossed 180 crores and Kaththi grossed 160 crores. Please change that... 203.90.4.235 (talk) 21:21, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Changes require that the new claims are verifiable as having been published in a reliable source with a reputation for editorial oversight, like a major newspaper. Do you have a source for your claim? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 21:31, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Drishyam is the highest grosser of malayalam.Not premam.Please stop spreading fake news.I am giving the references below.

https://www.onlookersmedia.in/collection-report/drishyam-final-collection-report http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kerala-box-office-prithviraj-ennu-ninte-moideen-among-top-5-highest-grossing-malayalam-movies-651418 — Preceding unsigned comment added by TOKOMOBO (talk • contribs) 05:58, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't insult or criticize people here. We'll all volunteers. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:41, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Drishyam is the highest grossing Malayalam movie - Source http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kerala-box-office-prithviraj-ennu-ninte-moideen-among-top-5-highest-grossing-malayalam-movies-651418. It would be highly unfair to calculate Premam's box office figures based on numbers represented in this site, while not doing so for Drishyam 120.59.163.67 (talk) 08:36, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done You do realize that these numbers are all estimates, right? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:23, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please make Drishyam the highest grossing Malayalam film by demoting Premam to second position. Drishyam collections - 75 crore. Source - http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kerala-box-office-prithviraj-ennu-ninte-moideen-among-top-5-highest-grossing-malayalam-movies-651418. Just for perspective Premam's gross was also sourced from this site, as per the reference link mentioned beside it. 120.56.163.186 (talk) 03:39, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Already done Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:24, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This was undone by Charles Turing, because the source used attributed the ₹75 crore claim to Onlookers Media, which we have no reason to believe is a reliable source. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:16, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone know why there are 19 films in the first table? Shouldn't this be reduced to, oh, say, 10? Why 19? Seems like someone forgot to prune as they kept adding. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:56, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Or its meant to be 200cr+ entries. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 05:19, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

addition of ace director Shankar's movie Nanban in Tamil hightest gross movie list. The information obtained from the movie's wikipedia page 117.207.65.3 (talk) 15:12, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:24, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please remove the last two films mentioned in list of "Highest grossing Tamil films" and replace it with below. Sources are given below

Please replace below because the below movie has grossed more than the mentioned one Source 1: http://forbesindia.com/celebprofile2014/ajith-kumar/101 Source 2: http://www.ibtimes.co.in/vijays-kaththi-ajiths-veeram-top-grossing-tamil-films-2014-618958 Kaththi with Veeram in Movie Column AR Murugadoss with Siva in Director Column Eros International with Vijaya Pictures in Studio column ₹128 crore (US$19 million) (all versions) with ₹130 crore (US$20 million) (all versions) in Worldwide Gross Column

Please replace below because the below movie has grossed more than the mentioned one http://behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/dec-11-04/mankatha-ajith-23-12-11.html Naan Ee with Mankatha in Movie Column S. S. Rajamouli with Venkat Prabhu in Director Column Varahi Chalana Chitram with Radaan Mediaworks in Studio column ₹125 crore (US$19 million) (all versions) with ₹130 crore (US$20 million) (all versions) in Worldwide Gross Column

Cnellai (talk) 04:24, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:22, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please change Veeram and Mankatha from "List of Highest Grossing Tamil Films" (as it does not have a reliable source) to Kanchana 2 and Singam 2. Also the movie Arrambam has grossed lower than Kaththi. Please include other movies which have grossed more than 100crs like "Kanchana 2" and "Singam 2".

Source: http://www.ibtimes.co.in/photos/all-time-highest-grossing-tamil-films-2881-slide-21715

78.95.172.42 (talk) 12:34, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

http://andhraboxoffice.com/info.aspx?id=789&cid=6&fid=26 http://tamilwire.net/49837-papanasam-tamil-gross-crores.html http://www.ibtimes.co.in/puli-box-office-collection-can-vijay-starrer-beat-ajiths-yennai-arindhaal-record-chennai-652570 61.3.29.52 (talk) 04:54, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:41, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Remove Nanban from the Highest grossing tamil movies as the existing link does not work nor exist now.

The current imdb top 50 list shows it as 92 crores. http://www.imdb.com/list/ls050231721/

Add Kanchana 2 gross which has a worldwide gross of 113 crores per the following sources

http://andhraboxoffice.com/info.aspx?id=783&cid=6&fid=1001 http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kanchana-2-worldwide-box-office-collection-raghava-lawrence-starrer-earns-108-crore-635232

Pradoblaze (talk) 16:16, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Partly done: IMDb is an insufficient source, which is why I removed Nanban. Metro Masti is used as the source of the 164 crore gross in the Nanban article, but it's not clear to me whether it is a reliable source or not. I also went with the lower 108 crore gross for Kanchana 2, because IBT is considered reliable. I'm not sure about andhraboxoffice. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:34, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Veeram" Tamil Movie has grossed 130 Crores which will rank at position 9 next to Sivaji

Movie Name: Veeram Movie link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veeram Year: 2014 Director: Siva Studio: Vijaya Productions

Reference link: Page 63/260 --> http://www.iffi.nic.in/writereaddata/India_at_Cannes_2015.pdf Ministry of information & broadcasting official website 122.174.174.195 (talk) 16:04, 18 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: The PDF references the Hindustan Times as the source of the information. I'd prefer to see the original source of the data before making a change, as the Indian film guide at Cannes doesn't strike me as reliable source. If you could provide that, it would be appreciated. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:40, 18 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]