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Dasavatharam

Why the hell are you not adding Dasavatharam in this list. Because it also grossed $31 millions

Please add Kamal Haasan's Dasavatharam in this list, cause dasavatharam also collected $31 millions. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.114.109.110 (talk) 04:21, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Provide a source. There's already too much game-playing with people just guessing and changing the numbers without explanation. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:32, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

3 Idiots and other older films

There's a huge problem on this list when it comes to writing the USD totals. A few films like 3 Idiots were released before the Indian rupee significantly got weaker. The 3 Idiots USD total should be $83 million, which puts it much higher on the other list. And other films released earlier should have adjusted totals as well. Nothing's adjusted in the USD list and that means great error. Also, Enthiran's grossed $71 million.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A03F:9B:600:7598:111E:F976:5B8C (talk) 19:55, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The ranking is in terms of rupees so while there's a difference in US figures, that doesn't change anything. As to Enthiran's gross, if you can provide a reliable source for that, then update it. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:31, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merge discussion

The consensus is to support a merger into a single list for all films in India. However, there doesn't seem to be a clear listing of all the articles to be merged into this article so that's problematic and this will be repetitive. As to the concerns about the other languages being overshadowed by the Hindu films one, then there should be separate sections for every language if there are reliable sources to support those claims. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 22:58, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

There are numerous different articles about one basic thing - revenues of Indian films. All this needs to be consolidated and properly defined, as the current maintenance of several such articles is a mess, an article maintenance problem, and there is bound to be plenty of contradictory details among them all. In the merged article, the top-grossing films would be centralised, ideally with separate columns for domestic and global returns. The "Hundred Crore Club" concept could be mentioned, as this seems to have sources, but it boils down to a list of top-grossing films. Furthermore, it might be appropriate and clearer to rename this article to List of highest-grossing Indian films. This multi-way merge will take some work, but is clearly justified in view of the current redundancies. Dl2000 (talk) 04:47, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Partial Support as per the reasons given above by Dl2000 but I oppose the merging of Bollywood figures into that of all the Indian films. Please wait for the discussion at the article's talk page to complete. - Jayadevp13 05:35, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • support - although the "100 crore club" article probably could survive as a text only article that talks about the concept of the "club" - not lists of the individual films, etc.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:10, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per Jayadevp and TRPoD above, just the films, and not the Bollywood figures. Ruby Murray 12:54, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: My suggestion is, the final version of merged article should contain only CBFC certified films. Not be biased an bollywood or kollywood or tollywood or any other, since it could raise some issues/disputes. I oppose for the concept of 'Hundred crore club', it seems additional glorification for the films more than the revenue mentioned. --βα£α(ᶀᶅᶖᵵᵶ) 13:20, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Partial Support Well, it's a good idea to merge related articles into one and make it accessible to internet user in on go, however, Bollywood is the oldest among its local contemporaries with its own rights, figures, values and representation, therefore, I'm of the opinion as User:Jayadevp13 of representing just the films in List of highest-grossing Indian films but Bollywood figures. Bolly. figures should be represented in List of highest-grossing Bollywood films itself. Salman 11:04, 3 January 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samsujata (talk • contribs)
@Dl2000, TheRedPenOfDoom, Ruby Murray, Balablitz, and Samsujata: Added Bollywood highest grossing films by month to the merge list. I thought that I should inform you all about it. The article has been maintained comparatively well till now though. - Jayadevp13 16:41, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Jayadevp13: thumbs up Great!. Good move. --βα£α(ᶀᶅᶖᵵᵶ) 04:09, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The most appropiate is to create a page titled "List of highest-grossing Indian films" and merge all these pages!
  • Decline. As the major sources like TOI and India Today are mentioning special records of individual industries, what if wikipedia maintain with reliable sources?Phani M (talk) 17:32, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support There are way too many articles for the grosses achieved by Indian cinema. And considering the fact that there is no official box office source for grosses of Indian films, it is really unnecessary too have these many articles. It would be a good idea to merge all articles into one. NiRinsanity 16:42, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Decline. i'm completly opposing the merge of an articls

we all telugu people want highest grossing telugu movies we want indiual records of separte languages in indiaAkhil (talk) 16:41, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

do you have any actually policy based rationale ?-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:20, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Decline These articles represent readers to get an idea about how the box office performance works from time to time. Daan0001 (talk) 13:27, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Decline. As the major sources like TOI and India Today are mentioning special records of individual industries, what if wikipedia maintain with reliable sources?Ak-Akhil (talk) 00:02, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Support I support this decision as there are so many similar articles related to the trends , facts, figures of bollywood films.If the articles are merged it would be easier to maintain the current information in the articles.--Param Mudgal (talk) 09:47, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment from merge proposer - It seems much of the merging has proceeded, and Bollywood 100 Crore Club scope has been successfully limited to describing that concept without maintenance of another table. However, there still seems to be outstanding controversy whether to fold List of highest-grossing Bollywood films into List of highest-grossing Indian films. Given that lack of consensus, and the practice of WP:MERGE, an uninvolved admin, or at least an uninvolved editor, should be the closer of this discussion. This has been open for a while, but also consider WP:DEADLINE. Meanwhile, there are contradictory figures in the worldwide grosses between the two articles and these are about to be flagged as such. Dl2000 (talk) 23:40, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • No Support If this has to be merged, then the list will come as "National" with Hindi, Tamil and Telugu films which has the potential, but let us keep each language as different eventhough a main box can be added only in Hindi page which shows all films as per its collection.

Rajeshbieee (talk) 09:41, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strong decline I decline the merger proposal as this will be very ignorant idea to categorize Tamil, Telugu, Bengali, Malayalam, Marathi and other non-Hindi Indian movies under the tag of Bollywood. Bollywood is the Mumbai-based Hindi film industry whereas the other industries are different ones. None of us are that much childish not to understand the difference between them! Arka 92 06:02, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Crore vs million/billion numbering system

Shouldn't the figures be expressed in Indian numbering system as opposed to Western numbering system (millions and billions) for the convenience of majority of readers who are likely to visit this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.178.217.152 (talk) 19:45, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I honestly don't know. Wikipedia has a manual of style for this sort of thing so maybe you should ask at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers. I suspect they will advise that you use the Indian system and provide a conversion but it is best to check. Betty Logan (talk) 21:44, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]


update

http://www.koimoi.com/box-office-verdict-bollywoods-top-worldwide-grossers/

gross is more confussion. and its not real income because tax is not less

  • add the cateagry nett for undererstand domestic real box office collection
  • and understand for 100 club,200 club .

--Amt000 (talk) 16:18, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is the List of highest-grossing Indian films, not the List of highest grossing and netting films. It appears that the standard measurement is Gross with Nett only sometimes being of interest. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:01, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@TheRedPenOfDoom: this is not matter of tittle netting.

  • in template net option with gross i prefer for better under standing
  • any film succes or not succes

it depends net collection not gross

  • nett = total gross - tax
  • suppose any film bujet 50 and gross collection 70 and net collection 40. then you take 40 to declear flop not 70

--Amt000 (talk) 13:19, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

have any admin to commentAmt000 (talk) 13:52, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
(note: admins dont have any special say. they just have the power to flip some switches according to community standards -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:29, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
the "flop" or "hit" or "super hit" or "average" or "mega flop" or "super colossal block and city and country buster" designations will NOT be included as they are meaningless and purely arbitrary. In addition, such designation on a list of highest grossing is extra meaningless - as the highest grossing films they are all obviously "hits". -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:27, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@TheRedPenOfDoom: now what you want to sayAmt000 (talk)
I do not understand your question. but your suggestion is not going to be implemented unless you show widespread reliable sources focusing on nett as much as they are focused on gross. And that aint gonna happen any time soon. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:29, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@TheRedPenOfDoom: http://www.koimoi.com/box-office-verdict-bollywoods-top-worldwide-grossers/ this is source.

i only suggest add nett with gross as like this link . reason on the top Amt000 (talk) 14:38, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

and you have received your answer. No, 1) it is out of scope of this article and 2) it is not a standard of measurement widely and consistently used by the reliable sources, the sources commonly and widely discuss the gross and occasionally, sometimes, in some circumstances mention nett. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 15:06, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Kick should come on 5th positon as the worldwide gross of this movie is INR 385 crore, it is not 377 crore. Source : Stardust Awards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.96.30.103 (talk) 16:52, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Colour accessibility

"Background color [green] indicates films playing in theatres around the world" - per MOS:COLOR, an article shouldn't distinguish information by colour alone. --McGeddon (talk) 21:06, 28 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Addaytoday is not a reliable source

I removed the links to this page. This blog has nothing that indicates that it is a reliable source. I hid the listings for Bodyguard and Dabangg until a real source is found. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:06, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

agree not a reliable source WP:RS-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:57, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Andraboxoffice.com is not a reliable source

There is no evidence that [1] is a reliable source. It's essentially a blog. The problem is that's the only source for the Telugu section and if removed, there's nothing to be listed. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:21, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Koimoi.com

This editor tried to add this page as a source. However, I'm not sure that this should be considered a reliable source. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:01, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Koimoi is generally accepted in the India entertainment articles as a basically reliable source. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:22, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 15 July 2015

Arrambam || 2013 || Sri Sathya Sai Movies || ₹151 crore (US$18 million) || Vishnuvardhan || [1] 117.192.96.182 (talk) 19:31, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done We only use reliably published sources with a reputation for fact checking, accuracy and editorial oversight. Indian box office claims are notoriously hard to accurately monitor (The biggest national newspaper gave up on its "box office" column because of the difficulties of verifiable estimates due to external pressure and outright fraud) and so only a very few sources are appropriate for such claims. indianmoviestats isnt one of them. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:21, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "All Time Highest Grossing Tamil films". indianmoviestats. 12 July 2015.

Include director?

When the individual language lists were merged here, some of them contained the field of "director" . Is that a field that we should institute for all sections of this article or should we remove it? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 11:59, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Baahubali is a Bilingual

The film Baahubali was shot simultaneously in Telugu and Tamil languages,hence it belongs to both the regions,it would be sensible if baahubali is included in both the highest grossing lists of Telugu and Tamil. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Subhakaran91 (talk • contribs) 12:58, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_highest-grossing_Indian_films&oldid=671852767

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