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:''[[:Kabali (film)|Kabali]]'' (July 2016 release) is one of my favorite examples of financial hype gone awry for a film. Producers (and shitty reporting from Indian Express. Financial Express, and the rest of Express Group) were claiming that the film had a ''box office gross'' of {{INR}}600+ crore, even though it was well documented that the film had ''pre-release transactions of satellite and music rights sales'' totaling about 200 crore, which would have brought the ''box office figures'' down to (at most) {{INR}}400 crore. Genuine skepticism from [http://www.firstpost.com/bollywood/rajinikanth-kabali-has-earned-rs-600-crore-at-the-global-box-office-or-has-it-2932578.html Firstpost] and [http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kabali-box-office-collection-reports-rajinikanth-starrer-raking-rs-675-crore-13-days-are-fake-688881 IBT] lowered these figures to about 300 crore early on. In 2017, long after the rush died down, [http://www.ibtimes.co.in/mersal-12-days-box-office-collection-crowning-vijay-film-joins-rs-200-crore-club-2nd-weekend-747432 IBT] put their estimated gross total for Kabali at about {{INR}}286 crore, yet [https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2017/05/11/armies-of-ajith-fans-mobilize-to-blast-vivegam-teaser-to-record-views/ Forbes Contributor Rob Cain], whose opinions are his own, pushed an almost 500 crore figure as his authoritative take on the mess of financial information in May 2017, which we kind of have to report to this day, since as a group we haven't yet dug into whether or not we think this guy knows what he's talking about. I think we should start questioning him. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 08:32, 7 July 2018 (UTC) |
:''[[:Kabali (film)|Kabali]]'' (July 2016 release) is one of my favorite examples of financial hype gone awry for a film. Producers (and shitty reporting from Indian Express. Financial Express, and the rest of Express Group) were claiming that the film had a ''box office gross'' of {{INR}}600+ crore, even though it was well documented that the film had ''pre-release transactions of satellite and music rights sales'' totaling about 200 crore, which would have brought the ''box office figures'' down to (at most) {{INR}}400 crore. Genuine skepticism from [http://www.firstpost.com/bollywood/rajinikanth-kabali-has-earned-rs-600-crore-at-the-global-box-office-or-has-it-2932578.html Firstpost] and [http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kabali-box-office-collection-reports-rajinikanth-starrer-raking-rs-675-crore-13-days-are-fake-688881 IBT] lowered these figures to about 300 crore early on. In 2017, long after the rush died down, [http://www.ibtimes.co.in/mersal-12-days-box-office-collection-crowning-vijay-film-joins-rs-200-crore-club-2nd-weekend-747432 IBT] put their estimated gross total for Kabali at about {{INR}}286 crore, yet [https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2017/05/11/armies-of-ajith-fans-mobilize-to-blast-vivegam-teaser-to-record-views/ Forbes Contributor Rob Cain], whose opinions are his own, pushed an almost 500 crore figure as his authoritative take on the mess of financial information in May 2017, which we kind of have to report to this day, since as a group we haven't yet dug into whether or not we think this guy knows what he's talking about. I think we should start questioning him. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 08:32, 7 July 2018 (UTC) |
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::I'm not sure whether his claims are correct. But one thing that concerns me is how the worldwide box office grosses of ''Dangal'' and ''Baahubali 2'' have been calculated here. By using this method, we are increasing the error rates of the grosses. Besides, ''Danagl's'' grosses in India, Taiwan, Hong Kong and "Other Territories" have been obtained from Rob Cain's article. There was a [https://www.ibtimes.co.in/akshay-kumars-toilet-ek-prem-katha-beats-salman-khans-bajrangi-bhaijaan-china-heres-how-771346 report] on IBT which |
::I'm not sure whether his claims are correct. But one thing that concerns me is how the worldwide box office grosses of ''Dangal'' and ''Baahubali 2'' have been calculated here. By using this method, we are increasing the error rates of the grosses. Besides, ''Danagl's'' grosses in India, Taiwan, Hong Kong and "Other Territories" have been obtained from Rob Cain's article. There was a [https://www.ibtimes.co.in/akshay-kumars-toilet-ek-prem-katha-beats-salman-khans-bajrangi-bhaijaan-china-heres-how-771346 report] on IBT which stated that ''Dangal's'' global gross was {{INR}}1979.12 crore by June 2018. ~[[User:Rajan51|Rajan51]]([[User talk:Rajan51|talk]]) 9:24, 7 July 2018 (UTC) |
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New Edit Request
Please update Kaala movie collections , Refer the below links
- http://english.sakshi.com/news/2018/06/07/kaala-us-premieres-collection
- https://www.hindustantimes.com/regional-movies/rajinikanth-s-kaala-earns-rs-230-crore-before-release-needs-rs-280-crore-at-bo-to-be-a-blockbuster/story-N9UDz5tIhmKPaFowAZBjkL.html
- https://www.businesstoday.in/trending/entertainment/rajinikanths-kaala-earns-rs-230-crore-ahead-of-release/story/278538.html
- https://www.ndtv.com/entertainment/rajinikanths-kaala-is-halfway-to-hit-status-already-with-230-crore-earned-even-before-release-1863314
- http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/tamil/kaala-box-office-prediction-rajinikanth-5207851/ — Preceding
- http://www.thehansindia.com/posts/index/Tollywood/2018-06-07/Rajinikanths-Kaala-First-Day-Box-Office-Collections-Report/387293
- http://www.bollywoodlife.com/news-gossip/kaala-box-office-collection-day-1-rajinikanths-film-beats-thalapathy-vijays-mersal-rakes-in-rs-1-76-crore-and-becomes-the-highest-opening-day-grosser-in-chennai/
- https://www.financialexpress.com/entertainment/kaala-box-office-collection-phenomenal-start-rajinikanth-starrer-set-to-earn-around-rs-30-cr-on-day-1/1197008/
unsigned comment added by 180.151.49.206 (talk) 09:00, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
- Not done: What sort of statement are you asking us to make about Kaala's gross? Also, you're not asking for the pre-release income to be included in box office receipts, are you? Because box office receipts = money made at the box office, not money made pre-selling satellite rights Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:52, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
yes please update only box office records,
https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/regional-cinema/story/rajinikanth-kaala-box-office-collection-day-5-becomes-second-highest-grosser-of-2018-1258030-2018-06-12 http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/tamil/kaala-box-office-rajinikanth-film-crosses-rs-100-crore-mark-5214112/ https://www.firstpost.com/entertainment/kaala-opening-weekend-box-office-collection-rajinikanth-starrer-garners-rs-114-cr-worldwide-in-four-days-4506797.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.151.49.206 (talk • contribs) 08:16, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
- Not done: You've added an additional 3 references, which say different things. Even if we went by the highest gross of 114 crore worldwide, that wouldn't put Kaala onto the list in this article. It would have to gross 149 crore in ticket sales to move Theri off the list. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:37, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Kaala latest collection is 184.35 crores please update http://bollywoodbreakfast.com/kaala-13th-day-box-office-collection-worldwide/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.151.49.206 (talk) 09:32, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. — JJMC89 (T·C) 18:02, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
Highest Grossing Punjabi Movies
Can anybody please add more films on highest grossing Punjabi movies according to this article of Box Office India https://www.boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=3828 ਬੱਬੂ ਬਰਾੜ (talk) 12:44, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
Bahubali's updated box office collection
Please refer to the below link of International Business Times stating the top five highest grossing Tamil movies and reflect any changes accordingly. https://www.ibtimes.co.in/vijays-mersal-box-office-collection-stands-next-only-enthiran-baahubali-2-this-region-758102 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.209.142.81 (talk) 16:16, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 June 2018
Vivegam - Tamil Movie - Box Office Above 160 Crores - Source : India Today - https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/regional-cinema/story/vivegam-box-office-collection-ajith-kumar-kajal-aggarwal-1041594-2017-09-10
}} SankarStark (talk) 19:52, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
Toilet ek Prem Katha should be in top 25 highest grossing Indian films
While toilet ek Prem Katha wiki page shows it has grossed more than 300cr. Then, why it's not placed in top 25 highest grossing indian films. It should firstly be ranked in top 25 then it should be ranked above Raees. Vikram jha18 (talk) 04:51, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes i agreed Amtpatel01 (talk) 06:25, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
Aamir Khan and Salman Khan Should Be Mentioned in the Introduction section of Global gross figures
In the List of 25 Movies Salman Khan and Aamir Khan have the most Movies. Salman Khan has 6 and Aamir Khan Has 5 Of which 4 Aamir Khan Movies are in the top 10 and 3 Salman Khan Movies are in the Top. The Two Actors definitely deserve a special mention in the introductions of the Section Global gross figures. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Birsanagarwala (talk • contribs) 09:32, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
- Not done The above user has been traveling article-to-article adding bolded text calling Aamir Khan the "World's Biggest Superstar".[1] There's obviously a promotional agenda here. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:23, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
Baahubali is not bilingual movie
Baahubali is a pure telugu movie which is dubbed into other languages. Please don't include the movie in Tamil language category. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rjchandra (talk • contribs) 15:58, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Rjchandra: According to our mainstream sources,[2][3] the film was shot simultaneously in Telugu and Tamil. Any change to the contrary would have to be supported with solid references, not your personal assertions. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:21, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
Highest-grossing Opening Weekends
I suggest a new section for the Opening Weekend Gross. I have made up a list of 20 films so far. For Hindi films which had a three day opening weekend, I have taken the data from Box Office India[4] and the rest are from individual reports.
Rank | Film | Opening Weekend Gross | Language | Year | Source(s) |
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1 | Baahubali 2: The Conclusion | ₹540 crore (US$65 million) | Telugu Tamil |
2017 | [1] |
2 | Sultan | ₹328 crore (US$39 million) | Hindi | 2016 | [2] |
3 | Kabali | ₹211.25 crore (US$25 million) | Tamil | 2016 | [3] |
4 | Sanju | ₹201.99 crore (US$24 million) | Hindi | 2018 | [4] |
5 | Dangal | ₹198.64 crore (US$24 million) | Hindi | 2016 | [5] |
6 | Padmaavat | ₹196.84 crore (US$24 million) | Hindi | 2018 | [6] |
7 | Dhoom 3 | ₹194.3 crore (US$23 million) | Hindi | 2013 | [5] |
8 | Tiger Zinda Hai | ₹189 crore (US$23 million) | Hindi | 2017 | [5] |
9 | Bajrangi Bhaijaan | ₹187.24 crore (US$22 million) | Hindi | 2015 | [5] |
10 | Prem Ratan Dhan Payo | ₹185.15 crore (US$22 million) | Hindi | 2015 | [5] |
11 | Race 3 | ₹181.32 crore (US$22 million) | Hindi | 2018 | [2] |
12 | PK | ₹175.78 crore (US$21 million) | Hindi | 2014 | [5] |
13 | Happy New Year | ₹174.57 crore (US$21 million) | Hindi | 2014 | [5] |
14 | Baahubali: The Beginning | ₹169 crore (US$20 million) | Telugu Tamil |
2015 | [7] |
15 | Chennai Express | ₹159.54 crore (US$19 million) | Hindi | 2013 | [5] |
16 | Dilwale | ₹144.83 crore (US$17 million) | Hindi | 2015 | [5] |
17 | Mersal | ₹140 crore (US$17 million) | Tamil | 2017 | [8] |
18 | I | ₹135 crore (US$16 million) | Tamil | 2015 | [9] |
19 | Golmaal Again | ₹134.48 crore (US$16 million) | Hindi | 2017 | [5] |
20 | Raees | ₹128.14 crore (US$15 million) | Hindi | 2017 | [5] |
~Rajan51(talk) 14:53, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Baahubali 2 box office collection day 3: With Rs 540 crore worldwide collection, the age of SS Rajamouli is here". The Indian Express. 1 May 2017. Archived from the original on 30 April 2017. Retrieved 1 May 2017.
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suggested) (help) - ^ a b "Race 3 total worldwide box office collection: Salman Khan's film grosses Rs 180 crore in 3 days". IBTimes. 19 June 2018.
- ^ "'Kabali' 3rd day box office collection: Rajinikanth's flick grosses over Rs. 200 crore worldwide in first weekend". IBTimes. 25 July 2016.
- ^ "Sanju box office collection: Ranbir Kapoor film crosses Rs 200 crore gross mark worldwide in 3 days". IBTime. 3 July 2018. Retrieved 6 July 2018.
- ^ a b c d e f g h i j k "TOP WORLDWIDE FIRST WEEKEND ALL TIME". Box Office India. 22 December 2014.
- ^ "Box Office: Worldwide collections and day wise break up of Padmaavat". Bollywood Hungama. Retrieved 28 January 2018.
- ^ "'Baahubali' (Bahubali) 1st Weekend Collection at Box Office: Business of Rajamouli's Film Crosses ₹165 Cr in 3 Days". IBTimes. 4 May 2017.
- ^ "Mersal 5-day box office collection: Vijay's film racing towards Rs 150 crore mark". IBTimes. 23 October 2017.
- ^ "'I' ('Ai') 5-Day Box Office Collections (Opening Weekend): Vikram-Amy Starrer Grosses over ₹135 crore Worldwide". IBTimes. 19 January 2015.
Malayalam film
Great father entered in 50 crore Nabhan nbn (talk) 05:14, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
Director and Studio names
Do the names of the directors and studios have to be mentioned in the lists. If yes, why? ~Rajan51(talk) 7:32, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
- There's no mandate, but there's also no prohibition. The tables have been formatted this way for several years. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:14, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
- The thing is, those two columns seem to occupy a lot of space and can be removed if they are not very important. I know that they have been there for a long time, but that alone cannot justify their presence there. ~Rajan51(talk) 16:31, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
- The page costs the same whether the director and studio are there or not, so "occupy a lot of space" can't alone justify their removal. It's not like we're going to use that freed-up space for ads or something. I would imagine someone might find it interesting to see which studios/directors appear the most in the various tables, but I don't presently have a strong opinion. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:58, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
- Since it occupies more space, removing them will make it easier for Mobile phone viewers to view the entire table. ~Rajan51(talk) 3:57, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
- Do we normally remove content to make it easier for mobile phone viewers? That's not actually something I've ever heard of. It would seem that if content is useful for all, it's also useful for mobile viewers. Where else would they get this information? They'd have to search each article independently and take notes? Doesn't that actually seem like more of a hassle? Again, I don't presently have a strong opinion, but I feel it's my obligation to present counter-arguments to "it's taking up space". Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:40, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
- Since it occupies more space, removing them will make it easier for Mobile phone viewers to view the entire table. ~Rajan51(talk) 3:57, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
- The page costs the same whether the director and studio are there or not, so "occupy a lot of space" can't alone justify their removal. It's not like we're going to use that freed-up space for ads or something. I would imagine someone might find it interesting to see which studios/directors appear the most in the various tables, but I don't presently have a strong opinion. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:58, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
- The thing is, those two columns seem to occupy a lot of space and can be removed if they are not very important. I know that they have been there for a long time, but that alone cannot justify their presence there. ~Rajan51(talk) 16:31, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
- Personally, it wouldn't bother me much whether the director/studio names were kept or removed. I'm fine either way. Maestro2016 (talk) 22:27, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
Dangal's China Gross
The given source for Dangal's China gross does not seem to work. So, a new source is needed. Maybe this can be used. ~Rajan51(talk) 5:36, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
Or a better way would be to get the Chinese gross in CN¥ and convert it to INR. As per this report from EntGroup, Dangal(released as Wrestle! Father) grossed CN¥1.29912 billion in China(equivalent to ₹1,218.46 crore[5]) ~Rajan51(talk) 7:29, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
- Generally speaking, I really question Forbes contributor Rob Cain's claims. It's totally unclear what makes this guy some kind of savant for Indian film financials, especially when he's the only guy making the more grandiose claims that the rest of the industry doesn't seem comfortable to report when the chips are down. My skepticism is heightened when Forbes itself bears a disclaimer "Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own", which is something other experienced editors have noted. Is he just a random blogger?
- Kabali (July 2016 release) is one of my favorite examples of financial hype gone awry for a film. Producers (and shitty reporting from Indian Express. Financial Express, and the rest of Express Group) were claiming that the film had a box office gross of ₹600+ crore, even though it was well documented that the film had pre-release transactions of satellite and music rights sales totaling about 200 crore, which would have brought the box office figures down to (at most) ₹400 crore. Genuine skepticism from Firstpost and IBT lowered these figures to about 300 crore early on. In 2017, long after the rush died down, IBT put their estimated gross total for Kabali at about ₹286 crore, yet Forbes Contributor Rob Cain, whose opinions are his own, pushed an almost 500 crore figure as his authoritative take on the mess of financial information in May 2017, which we kind of have to report to this day, since as a group we haven't yet dug into whether or not we think this guy knows what he's talking about. I think we should start questioning him. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 08:32, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not sure whether his claims are correct. But one thing that concerns me is how the worldwide box office grosses of Dangal and Baahubali 2 have been calculated here. By using this method, we are increasing the error rates of the grosses. Besides, Danagl's grosses in India, Taiwan, Hong Kong and "Other Territories" have been obtained from Rob Cain's article. There was a report on IBT which stated that Dangal's global gross was ₹1979.12 crore by June 2018. ~Rajan51(talk) 9:24, 7 July 2018 (UTC)