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== Semi-protected edit request on 22 April 2017 ==
== Semi-protected edit request on 22 April 2017 ==


{{edit semi-protected|List of highest-grossing Indian films|answered=no}}
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Please include The Great Father in the highest grossing Malayalam film section. 'The Great Father Box Office: Enters 50-Crore Club!'
Please include The Great Father in the highest grossing Malayalam film section. 'The Great Father Box Office: Enters 50-Crore Club!'


Read more at: http://www.filmibeat.com/malayalam/news/2017/the-great-father-box-office-enters-50-crore-club-259046.html [[User:Sunnyjos|Sunnyjos]] ([[User talk:Sunnyjos|talk]]) 19:48, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
Read more at: http://www.filmibeat.com/malayalam/news/2017/the-great-father-box-office-enters-50-crore-club-259046.html [[User:Sunnyjos|Sunnyjos]] ([[User talk:Sunnyjos|talk]]) 19:48, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> {{ping|Sunnyjos}} Filmibeat is not generally considered a reliable source for financial data. Please see [[WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources]] for examples of sources that are and are not generally considered reliable. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 20:01, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

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Highest Grossing Movies in Kannada

Respected Sir, According to recent news statement published in International Business Times, Kirik Party has grossed 45 crores and is nearing to 50 crores. I request you to kindly update the page with correct information. Necessary link related to news statement has been attached with this request.

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/rakshit-shettys-kirik-party-inches-closer-rs-50-crore-mark-box-office-75-days-719391

Thank u — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shrinayakwiki (talk • contribs) 03:53, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Respected sir, According to Kannada box office and several news articles recently hebbuli movie has crossed the gross of 50 crores so I would like u to edit the info Suraj Sudeep (talk) 01:45, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You will need to provide solid references. Before you respond, see WP:RS, and more specifically, WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources to get a better idea for what sources are and are not considered reliable. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:30, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sir i am requesting u just pluck off raajakumara which has no official declarations on collection but u still included it please understand we ade getting betrayed
Suraj Sudeep (talk) 16:55, 4 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Suraj Sudeep: I don't know what you mean by "official declarations", since 1) we don't use primary sources as definitive sources of controversial information like finances, since a director/producer/actor/distrubutor/etc. would have every reason to inflate their "official" values and 2) There is no such thing as "official" film financial data in Indian cinema. Everything is an estimate. So whatever point you are trying to make is unclear, and the lack of references doesn't shed a whole lot of light on the matter. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:17, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sir you have changed the collection of Kannada movie maanikya but in the Wikipedia page of the movie maanikya it is stated with source that it has earned 43.5 crores so I would like you to change the same accordingly Suraj Sudeep (talk) 12:35, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Suraj Sudeep: - I believe you're referring to this edit, which was made by user Tevar shaa, not by me. To answer your question, when we consider a film's gross, we're talking only about money made at the box office. We're not interested in secondary revenue streams like satellite rights sales, music rights sales, etc. The 43.5 crore value at Maanikya was erroneously including these values and has been fixed in this edit. According to Indiaglitz, the film grossed about 35 crore rupees. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 12:53, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ok sir then u have the proof for hebbuli to cross 50 crores but why haven't u updated yet
http://m.dailyhunt.in/news/india/kannada/filmibeat+kannada-epaper-filmikan/syaandal+vud+na+aal+taim+rekaard+udis+maadidha+hebbuli-newsid-65099533?ss=wsp&s= Suraj Sudeep (talk) 17:01, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I've never heard of dailyhunt.in and don't see it as an approved source at WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources. However, if the content is being derived from Filmibeat, which the logo on the page would seem to suggest, I'd be averse to using this source as a reference, since Filmibeat is expressly indicated as an unreliable source. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:06, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sir i still have another proof for hebbuli crossing 50 crores http://uk.blastingnews.com/entertainment/2017/03/hebbuli-2-weeks-14-days-collection-in-karnataka-till-date-001531701.html Suraj Sudeep (talk) 14:44, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello bro last year blockbuster mukunda murari has completed a gross of 50 crores as stated in your wikipedia page so please change Suraj Sudeep (talk) 05:24, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Suraj Sudeep: You mean the unexplained, unsourced addition that was made in this edit? I don't think so. Please bring reliable sources to the talk page if you want other editors to consider changes. See WP:ICTF#Guideliens on sources for examples of what are and are not suitable for inclusion. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:54, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2005 highest grossing indian film is not " No Entry", it's chandramukhi.

According to some sources and the chandramukhi team, the box office of chandramukhi was reported to be 86 crores. It is more than No Entry, so please change it. THANK YOU. Nito Nithish (talk) 09:21, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 8 April 2017

86.98.30.234 (talk) 11:56, 8 April 2017 (UTC) | 6 | * Amar Akbar Anthonyl | 2016 | Nadirshah | Weekend Blockbusters |52 crore (US$6.2 million) | [1] |-[reply]

References

  1. ^ സ്വന്തം ലേഖകൻ (27 February 2017). "50 കോടി വാരി മുന്തിരിവള്ളികൾ തളിർക്കുമ്പോൾ". Malayala Manorama (in Malayalam). Retrieved 28 October 2015.
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:12, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 10 April 2017

Baahubali box office collection 586.45

Information given in wikipedia about baahubali box office is wrong.

1 ibtimes.co.in After becoming the third biggest grosser, "Sultan" was expected to beat the lifetime box office collection record of "Baahubali: The Beginning," which earned Rs. 586.45 crore.[ http://www.ibtimes.co.in/worldwide-box-office-collection-will-salmans-sultan-beat-record-baahubali-cross-rs-300-688803 ]

2 ibtimes.co.in The top three grossers include Aamir Khan's "PK" with Rs. 792 crore gross income, Salman's "Bajrangi Bhaijaan" with Rs. 626 crore and "Baahubali: The Beginning" with Rs. 586.45 crore. [ http://www.ibtimes.co.in/worldwide-box-office-collection-sultan-grosses-rs-550-crore-salmans-film-needs-rs-33-crore-687892 ]

3 ibtimes.co.in http://www.ibtimes.co.in/worldwide-box-office-collection-salmans-sultan-set-beat-baahubali-dhoom-3-global-earnings-687525

4 ibtimes.co.in http://www.ibtimes.co.in/baahubali-bahubali-lifetime-box-office-collection-prabhas-starrer-earns-rs-302-crore-its-649645

5 From Forbes https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2015/07/23/baahubali-catapults-toward-all-time-record-indian-gross/#593eb52953cf

6 india.com http://www.india.com/showbiz/salman-khans-bajrangi-bhaijaan-vs-prabhas-baahubali-collections-who-won-race-at-box-office-498206

7 indianexpress.com http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/telugu/baahubali-2-vs-baahubali-1-what-box-office-holds-for-ss-rajamouli-monster-what-box-office-holds-for-ss-rajamouli-monster-4603035


Kiranrajanna (talk) 06:32, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Kiranrajanna: It's unclear what specifically you are proposing. But to address your references above:
  1. IBT - 3 August 2016 - yes, source says 586.45
  2. IBT - 26 July 2016 - yes, source says 586.45
  3. IBT - 22 July 2016 - yes, source says 586.45
  4. IBT - 8 October 2015 - yes, source says 586.45. Value attributed to Andhra Box Office, a blog. We don't typically use content sourced to blogs per WP:UGC. This calls into question the other identical values.
  5. Forbes - 23 July 2015 - source says 375 crore. What purpose does this reference serve?
  6. India.com - 11 August 2015 - source says 545 crore, which is not consistent with the 586.45 claim. What do we do with this data?
  7. IndianExpress.com - 8 April 2017 - Unclear what this says, exactly, or why you've included it. Says "The film collected Rs 500 crore gross income at the worldwide box office that includes tax and exhibitor’s share." Obviously the guy making this statement doesn't know what "gross" means if he's subtracting tax and exhibitor's share from it. Not particularly helpful, as we can't identify what this guy thinks the film's raw gross actually was.
So what exactly are you proposing here? Remove the 650 crore total entirely? Present the value as a range of 586.45–650 crore? Are you saying that 650 crore is a mistake? What do we do about this reference from 9 August 2016, which says unambiguously that ""Baahubali - the Beginning" has grossed over Rs 650 crore at the worldwide box office in its life time"? Where did this value come from? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:58, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]


My request is to change 650cr to 586.45cr.. because 650cr not have clear details compare to 586.45.

1. IBT is reliable sources from [1]

2. IBT is reliable sources from [2]

3. IBT is reliable sources from [3]

4. IBT is reliable sources from [4]

5. Forbes is very reputed website in world it mention as $70 million so far. means not even equal to 600cr, intention of sharing this information is to tell you its not earn 650cr.

6. India.com, i agree with you that its not a reliable sources according to [5] but No website as told it crossed 600cr.

7. IndianExpress.com Sorry for this Information.

8. my proposal is remove 650cr and make as 586.45cr.

9. About this link [6] not clearly mention about how 650cr collected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiranrajanna (talk • contribs)

@Kiranrajanna: Please sign your posts with four tildes ~~~~. This will append a signature and a time stamp to the end of your posts. In regard to the above, I still don't understand what the point of the Forbes source was and it seems to greatly conflict with the first few IBT sources, since it claims a 375 crore gross when the IBT source from the day before was claiming 586.45. But beyond that, there are vast numbers of sources that support 650 crore.
With the preponderance of the sources seemingly in support of 650 crore, and with no clear explanation for your perceived discrepancy, it would be very controversial and imprudent to arbitrarily drop the number to 586.45. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 10:36, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Highest Grossing Films adjusted for Inflation

I personally think that a section for highest grossing films adjusted for inflation, is not required. Discussions have never yielded the requirement for one, and the current list was slipped in on 19th March. I will be removing the list based on the following reasons. Feel free to revert with a proper reason.

  • The numbers are sourced from a non-reliable source IBOS Network, which seems to be nothing better than a blog.
  • Just the adjusted numbers are mentioned, and the actual figures are not mentioned so as to enable comparing. Also the website does not mention the source for coming up with such audacious numbers.
  • The numbers have supposedly not been updated since 2008, meaning the list is outdated (if it was ever correct).

Jupitus Smart 06:01, 11 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Film ranking revisited

Hi Betty, I'm not sure if you recall this discussion, where a few of y'all proposed an ordering scheme for films that have the same gross values. Is there any chance you might be able to find time to implement those changes? I'm only bothering you with it because my table formatting skills are really subpar and I'm afraid I'll break something, and I seem to recall that you're quite skilled with tables and such. Also, some of the rows have fancy formatting that indicates which films are still in theatres and that just confuses the crap out of me. The preferred numbering scheme went:

1) Film 1
2) Film 2
3) Film 3
4) Film 4
5) Film 5, Film 6, Film 7
8) Film 8
9) Film 9
10) Film 10

Thanks in advance, but if you can't/don't want to do it, I'll understand! I could always get help at VPT. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:02, 11 April 2017 (UTC) Had to reformat the above, so I'm pinging Betty again. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:03, 11 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of highest grossing Malayalam films

To whomsoever it may concern,

Ezra had entered 50 cr club. Official facebook page of the movie confirm this. Moreover other media also reported this. Sources are cited below. Please do necessary updations. http://www.catchnews.com/regional-cinema/ezra-prithviraj-starrer-emerges-8th-rs-50-crore-grosser-of-malayalam-cinema-57679.html http://www.filmibeat.com/malayalam/news/2017/ezra-box-office-final-collections-enters-50-crore-club-258553.html https://www.facebook.com/EzraMovie/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE&fref=nf

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TOKOMOBO12345 (talk • contribs) 14:14, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Katamarayudu Telugu movie box office

Here is the reliable source for the box office collection of the movie. http://www.ibtimes.co.in/katamarayudu-10-days-total-box-office-collection-pawan-kalyan-churns-out-another-flop-after-sgs-721838 5.156.212.245 (talk) 05:44, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done There's already a presumably reliable source cited in the article that presents a 10-day gross of 125 crore. It would seem academically dishonest to switch out one reliable estimate for another reliable estimate, so I have presented the content in the form of a range, here. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 11:10, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The great father collected above 50 cr

Why this page cant upload malayalam movie collection updates Check the collection about that film. The great father fastest 50 cr+ collection world wide....and also it running successfully in gulf countries and india Check the updates admin Muhaismuhammed (talk) 15:16, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Muhaismuhammed: Complaining without bringing references doesn't get the data updated any faster. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:37, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Muhaismuhammed: Oh, and I just remembered that a lot of the early financial data was coming from the filmmakers, which I believe is why some editors opted not to include the data. Filmmakers are considered primary sources, and we don't typically use primary sources for controversial claims like for finances. A producer/director/actor would have every reason to inflate their box office figures. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:44, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Abbas:http://www.filmibeat.com/malayalam/news/2017/the-great-father-box-office-enters-50-crore-club-259046.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abbas.j63 (talk • contribs) 04:31, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Abbas.j63: Filmibeat is not generally considered a reliable source by the Indian cinema task force at Wikipedia. Please find mainstream news sites that support the figures. See WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources for examples of sources that are and are not generally considered reliable. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:39, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Great father malayalam

Crossed 50 crore mark and it is not added here Abbas.j63 (talk) 04:26, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@abbas.j63 : http://www.filmibeat.com/malayalam/news/2017/the-great-father-box-office-enters-50-crore-club-259046.html Abbas.j63 (talk) 04:35, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You posted this twice. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:37, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 22 April 2017

Please include The Great Father in the highest grossing Malayalam film section. 'The Great Father Box Office: Enters 50-Crore Club!'

Read more at: http://www.filmibeat.com/malayalam/news/2017/the-great-father-box-office-enters-50-crore-club-259046.html Sunnyjos (talk) 19:48, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: @Sunnyjos: Filmibeat is not generally considered a reliable source for financial data. Please see WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources for examples of sources that are and are not generally considered reliable. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:01, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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