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This page says that Dasavatharam was released in the year 2008 and that it has grossed around Rs.200 crore worldwide. The page also says that the highest grossing movie of the year 2008 is Ghajini (Rs.190 Cr) Shouldnt Dasavatharam be the highest grossing movie of 2008? I request to change the Highest grossing movie of the year 2008 from Ghajini to Dasavatharam. Thank You> 49.205.139.245 (talk) 12:45, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Why is this being ignored? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.205.139.245 (talk) 10:00, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Already done Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:37, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/baahubali-first-weekend-box-office-collection-rajamouli-film-breaks-lifetime-worldwide-records-639066 The artice which is the reference for the collections of Magadheera states that Sivaji had earned Rs 155 Cr. I request you to change the collections of Sivaji from Rs.148 Cr to Rs.155 Cr.The movie has grossed more than the highest grossing movie of 2007. I also request you to change the highest grossing movie of 2007 from Om Shanti Om (Rs.150 Cr) to Sivaji (Rs.155 Cr) Thank You 49.205.139.245 (talk) 12:55, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the director in an interview said than sivaji the boss cross over 150 crore but here just stated that 148cr Nito Nithish (talk) 16:41, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, please clear my doubts. According to a single source, this page is mentioning that kabali gross is just 350cr. According to my heavy research, Kabali gross must be over 600cr as many big sources such as the indian express, Indiaglitz,Behindwoods and even the director gave a speech of kabali to cross 700cr very soon. Please add my choice, idea and my proof in your mind and go for more researches on kabali gross as many south Indians are waiting for. Nito Nithish (talk) 16:38, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Nito Nithish: This has been discussed numerous times here, at Talk:Kabali, at WP:RSN, etc. The information about Kabali's gross is explained thoroughly in the article with references. If there is a reasonable dispute, it would be incorrect to elevate Kabali to the top of the list and promote the higher number as an indisputable fact. What we do know without question, is that Kabali grossed at least ₹350 crore. When the trades finally develop the balls to say definitively what they think Kabali really made at the box office (not total revenue), for instance if they released their own "highest-grossing films" list, then it might be worth another consideration. But the super-high values obviously included satellite and music rights, which we never include in gross figures, and nobody's brought any fresh sources to the table since then. So the short answer is that due to poor reporting and a lot of hyped data, nobody knows for sure what the box office gross of Kabali was. Also, a director is considered a primary source. We don't use primary sources for controversial data, because a director/producer/actor/distributor would have every reason to lie about the success of their film. Conflict of interest. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:59, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/janatha-garage-box-office-collection-will-jr-ntrs-film-beat-sarrainodu-srimanthudu-693653 http://www.ibtimes.co.in/srimanthudu-total-worldwide-box-office-collection-mahesh-babu-starrers-lifetime-earnings-rs-650528 http://www.ibtimes.co.in/khaidi-no-150-16-day-box-office-collection-chiranjeevis-movie-inches-closer-rs-150-cr-mark-2nd-713807 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.249.140.49 (talk) 19:51, 31 January 2017 (UTC) Hope the above sources acts as reliable ones and has the sufficient datas. Please update the box office accordingly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.249.140.49 (talk) 19:48, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Can you be more specific about what you are proposing should be changed? The first source, which appears to be focused on Janatha Garage, is from September 2016, when the value currently in the article uses a reference from October 2016.[1] So I'm unclear what you want us to do with that first reference. Anyway, more clarity is needed, please. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:13, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am talking about the entire list of Telugu gross collections. The first source gives the gross collection of highest grossing Telugu movies. Just look at the tabular column at the end of the article and forget about Janata garage in that article. The second source is for Srimanthudu movie, which is an additional source to the former. The third source is for Khaidi no.150 box office collection. Go through the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.249.209.203 (talk) 03:35, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, you need to be more specific about the changes you want to be made. Like: in the list of "Highest-grossing Telugu films" please change X film's gross to ₹YYY crore based on Z source. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:36, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please refer to the below headings which you have asked for. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.202.229.77 (talk) 07:32, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Srimanthudu Box office update

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/srimanthudu-total-worldwide-box-office-collection-mahesh-babu-starrers-lifetime-earnings-rs-650528 http://www.ibtimes.co.in/janatha-garage-box-office-collection-will-jr-ntrs-film-beat-sarrainodu-srimanthudu-693653 Hope the above two credible sources proves that Srimanthudu has grossed 144 crores and not 200 Crores. Please refer to the above articles for any claims. 122.164.207.186 (talk) 11:28, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Business-Standard seems to disagree, indicating a gross of 200 crore. The first IBT source you provided attributes the figures to Andhra Box Office, which is a blog. We don't typically use figures from blogs. The second indicates a gross of 150 crore. But since there is no singular authority on Indian film grosses, what would you propose be done here? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:20, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Khaidi No. 150 box office update

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/khaidi-no-150-16-day-box-office-collection-chiranjeevis-movie-inches-closer-rs-150-cr-mark-2nd-713807 The above source can be used for Khaidi no.150 gross collection which is not 166 crores but 141 crores. 122.164.207.186 (talk) 11:29, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This one I'd agree with, since the value is attributed to an unverified Twitter post from a film critic. I'm not sure what makes a film critic an expert in financials, but regardless, whomever submitted that is making an assumption that this guy's assertion is correct. They should argue this here. In the meantime, I've swapped this to the IBT value here. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:20, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In the list of highest gross indian film by the year (2007), it was stated that the movie name is shivaji but if is actually sivaji: the boss. Secondly, please change the highest grossing Tamil film of sivaji: the boss gross as 155cr, as it was in the 'list of highest grossing film by the year'. Thank you. Nito Nithish (talk) 15:02, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sivaji (film) is the name of the article, and the "The Boss" doesn't appear in the article prose. If you think this is an erroneous title, you should probably bring that up at Talk:Sivaji (film) and see what other editors think. My suspicion is that the editors felt that most of the reliable sources were describing the film plainly as Sivaji. As for the second part of your request, you'd need to provide a reference to support the 155 crore claim. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:26, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/baahubali-first-weekend-box-office-collection-rajamouli-film-breaks-lifetime-worldwide-records-639066

The above source is enough to prove that, the world wide collection of the Tamil movie sivaji is 155 crores and not 148 crores. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.246.82.246 (talk) 09:59, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If I'm not mistaken, IBT attributes the number to Andhra Box Office, a blog. Please see WP:UGC. The figure and have to be independently verified. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 10:36, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. You made a mistake. Just go through the blog. Only that specific paragraph was stated by that blog. The remaining are as per reports, as you can see that in the following paragraph. You can click on the 'Andhra box Office', if you want that clarification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.251.237.42 (talk) 14:36, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The source says "as per the reports", which would be interpreted as Andhra's report. And even if it weren't, what then is the source of the mysterious "reports", and why would we assume that IBT has independently verified the figures as opposed to just republishing them, which is what it sounds like? Also, see this, which is from the same date as the IBT article, 13 July 2015. It's clear that's where IBT was getting the info. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:42, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Raees has collected Rs. 270 crore till February 2 2017 India Gross: 170 crore Overseas:100 crore(approx 15 million) V99991111 (talk) 05:23, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

SORRY $15 million V99991111 (talk) 05:35, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@V99991111: -  Not done - Please provide reliable sources. See WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:00, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Raees has collected more than Rs 100 crore (approx 15 million) in 9 days of run till February 2 2017 it is expected that it will cross the lifetime overseas collection of happy new year in another 5 days V99991111 (talk) 05:28, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry $ 15 million V99991111 (talk) 05:34, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@V99991111: -  Not done - Please provide reliable sources. See WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:00, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Raees Beats Jab Tak Hai Jaan & Ae Dil Hai Mushkil’s Lifetime Record | Worldwide Biz reference www.koimoi.com 3 rd February 2017 V99991111 (talk) 03:25, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@V99991111: -  Not done - Please stop posting requests without providing reliable sources. Koimoi is not considered a reliable source per WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 10:39, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

‘Raees’ worldwide box-office collection: Shah Rukh Khan’s film powers past 250-crore mark reference:m.timesofindia.com V99991111 (talk) 12:13, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

V99991111 -  Not done - No reference provided. Please stop submitting unsourced edit requests. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:53, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please update raees worldwide collection Rs 259.42 crore Raees worldwide box-office collection: Shah Rukh Khan’s film powers past 250-crore mark reference:m.timesofindia.com V99991111 (talk) 12:33, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

V99991111 -  Not done - No reference provided. Please stop submitting unsourced edit requests. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:53, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The box office source of the Telugu film 'Attarintiki Daredi' seem to be wrong. Please have a look at the below source. The actual gross figure is 131 crores and not 187 crores. Maybe a clarification has to be arranged from both the sources. http://www.ibtimes.co.in/janatha-garage-box-office-collection-will-jr-ntrs-film-beat-sarrainodu-srimanthudu-693653 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.251.237.42 (talk) 14:54, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You say that the "actual" gross is 131 and not 187, but how do we know what the "actual" gross is if they're both estimates? I've presented the info in the form of a range here. The problem with these idiotic lists is that Wikipedia is basically deciding what films are in the various spots, based on individually sourced gross figures, instead of using a singular authority that all the other trades agree to. For instance Box Office Mojo is widely considered a central authority, and if they had a "Top 10 Telugu films" list, that would be ideal. But all we have is this inefficient system of comparing IBT estimates to Business Standard to Box Office India... Anyway, Attarintiki Daredi had been in the #3 spot, but because of the wide disparity between the sources, I've moved it back down to the #7 position. It's somewhat arbitrary since none of us know for sure, but it also doesn't make sense to keep the film at the top of the list if the high figure is disputed. We did something similar with Kabali. That film's gross was disputed and it seemed ridiculous to place it in the #3 spot if other estimates place it around the #13 spot. All we know for certain is that the lower figure was achieved. I don't know what a good long-term solution for this nonsense is. Thanks Indian film industry... Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:15, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

All the Tamil and Telugu movie gross figures are exaggerated ones. It is a vicious circle. IBT initially comes up with some fake numbers first. This will be updated in Wikipedia. Wikipedia acts as a source for some standard Indian newspapers. Wikipedia numbers will be published in those newspapers. Again these are made as source for Wikipedia. Similarly, Tamil people try to exaggerate Tamil gross figures and degrade Telugu gross figures and vice versa as these two industries are equal in size. The gross figures dispute of Shivaji and Attarintiki Daredi shows it clearly. People are trying to exaggerate the gross figures of Shivaji and downgrade the gross figures of Attarintiki Daredi. If Wikipedia is taking the blog boxofficeindia.com as source for Hindi movies, why can't it take the blogs tamilboxoffice1.com and andhraboxoffice.com for Tamil and Telugu movies. These two blogs are almost giving the exact figures. Many Indian newspapers follow their numbers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.49.82.179 (talk) 13:16, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say that only when readers start writing to the newspapers and telling them to stop with the crap, will any of this change. Newspapers shouldn't be using Wikipedia as a reference. That's just stupid. Even Wikipedia doesn't consider itself a reliable source. I don't think that the Indian cinema task force at Wikipedia considers Box Office India a blog, but you'd have to ask them (whoever still remains) what the rationale for that is. The objections I've heard for Andhra, is that it's only run by one person, I don't even know if it's clear who that person is. But the most important aspect is that a source have an established reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. I don't know that Andhra has that, and I don't know that Tamilboxoffice1.com does (I've never even heard of this site). For Indian cinema, I'm not convinced that simply because one of the major trades looks to these sites for data that this makes the data inherently reliable. I'm sure there's a pressure for IBT and TOI to report something, so they just regurgitate what sites like Andhra Box Office prints. I've even seen them use data from Onlookersmedia.in, even though that's a blog run by amateurs. Another example would be the insane clamor for clicks that was created when Kabali was out. Sites reporting 677-700 crore "gross" figures, which were obviously inflated. Some of this was coming out of typically reliable sources like Express Group (Financial Express/Indian Express) but it was clear that these figures were being manipulated by the Kabali marketing teams and included pre-release income, etc. It's a big mess, and only a public outcry will help. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:26, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The latest credible source of the Tamil film 'Thuppakki' is added below for reference purpose. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tamil/movies/news/Vijays-Thuppakki-makes-180-crore/articleshow/18691254.cms Clarification to be made if any other credible contradicting source available. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.251.237.42 (talk) 15:10, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done - I believe why this has not been done in the past is because the figures are attributed to Eros, who distributed the Hindi version. That would make them a primary source. We don't use primary sources for controversial data, as someone with a financial interest in the film (producer/director/actor/distributor/etc.) would have every reason to exaggerate financial data. Also, keep in mind, all financial figures are estimates, so higher doesn't always equate to "more accurate". Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:29, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I am requesting to add top 15 in the hindi, tamil and telugu languages as they are the top 3 Grossers. The reason for this is, this year 2017, we might have more blockbuster movies getting in the list and pushing other industrial hit movies away. And this top 1p system is old ad many new movies are entering. Thank you. I am excited to see the top 15 for hindi, tamil and telugu movies. Nito Nithish (talk) 16:24, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]