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I propose that List of highest-grossing Indian films in overseas markets be merged into List of highest-grossing Indian films. We don't need a separate page just for overseas figures. - Managerarc™ ^talk 20:45, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Managerarc I don't think we need to keep a unique tally of grosses domestically vs. grosses internationally. Maybe discussing whether the overseas article should be deleted is in order. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:53, 16 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Cyphoidbomb: Multiple reliable sources, newspapers etc do report domestic and overseas figures separately. I don't see a valid reason to completely remove it. Maybe splitting the worldwide gross in the global gross section into overseas and domestic would be a better option?- Managerarc™ ^talk 18:02, 30 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Managerarc, what's the parallel example at Wikipedia for Western films? This just feels like we're treating Indian films like a special snowflake instead of having Indian film articles adhere to common community editing practices. This is especially problematic because of how prone Indian film financials are to fudging, incomplete data, vandalism and other forms of corruption. I'm very reluctant to endorse yet another avenue for paid sock rings to deliver dubious information of questionable academic value. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:00, 30 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Cyphoidbomb what do you suggest then? The consensus seems to be merge as of now.- Managerarc™ ^talk 22:32, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Managerarc - it would be nice to see some voices from some of the WT:ICTF regulars. Maybe you'd consider inviting them to the discussion? Kailash, Bollyjeff, and so on. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:48, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Merging is appropriate. A totally unnecessary list. See the List of highest-grossing films (FL), gross when adjusted for inflation, films by year, franchise films are all listed in that single page. Likewise, the List of highest-grossing Indian films in overseas markets is not an independent topic, and List of highest-grossing Indian films shows worldwide gross, not the domestic. --Charles Turing (talk) 11:34, 19 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Keeping another article for this is totally unnecessary. Karyasuman (talk) 16:50, 24 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 00:41, 30 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Merge. -- Rajeshbieee (talk) 10:36, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge - keep topics inclusive and to prevent any prevailing vandalism/crystal balling. — EelamStyleZ (talk) 18:26, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Merge - Since we have already merged the separate language articles, this is a good fit too. BollyJeff | talk 12:19, 9 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The producer uttered some words in the media about the Kabali collections as Rs 250 crores in Day 1, which is highly impossible according to number of screens, occupancy rate and ticket rates. It seems to be a marketing gimmick to attract more people to the cinema halls. The reference given for the Kabali collections http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/rajinikanths-kabali-smashes-all-box-office-records-earns-rs-250-crore-in-india-on-first-day/articleshow/53354457.cms itself contradicts in another reference by showing Day 1 collection as over 40 crores http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/rajinikanths-kabali-smashes-all-box-office-records-collects-over-rs-40-crore/articleshow/53347794.cms. So, please update the Kabali collections according to a consistent reference source like as given in http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/kabali-rajinikanth-second-day-box-office-collection-sultan-vedalam-review/1/722537.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.49.83.78 (talk) 07:50, 24 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Its time to update the data, please refer http://www.financialexpress.com/photos/entertainment-gallery/334390/kabali-box-office-collections-at-over-rs-650-cr-rajinikanth-starrer-is-now-no-1-movie-in-india/ and get the update — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rkthik (talk • contribs) 14:04, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kabali needs to be updated as 470cr (211 Cr domestic + 259 Cr overseas) based on the link. Excluded pre business from 650cr. http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/regional/rajinikanth-kabali-box-office-collection-rs-650-crore-leaves-salman-khan-sultan-behind/ Pradoblaze (talk) 12:37, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Except International Business Times, till now there is no other source says Kabali Crosses 600 Cr. All other sources which says this collection, stating source is International Business Times. So suspect is there. IBT says one day it fails to break Bhagubali and Sultan and after two days they expressed it broke all records. How is it possible to beat, even if the film is not performing well third weeks of its release. Now the movie is running less theaters due to new releases and it is not possible to beat blockbusters like Bhagubali and Sultan even those third and fourth week's collection is same like second week whereas it does not workout in Kabali. Please verify all data from liable sources. The same V Creations declared their earlier project Theri crossed 100 crores in four days but after that they did not say anything about the total collection and Wikipedia does not have even estimated total value of the film's lifetime collection. Now-a-days, saying the film crossed 100 crores in two or three days and it broke all previous records, etc is a market trick to promote the movie to run success in theaters. Kabali's pre-release business is around 200 crores included their BO records but it should not include as per calculation of BO business and that should be calculated in total business. Some sources provided about its fact related to prove the above description. Thanks.

http://www.bollywoodlife.com/news-gossip/rajinikanths-kabali-fails-to-break-salman-khans-sultan-baahubali-box-office-records/ http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kabali-breaks-baahubali-records-fails-beat-sultan-collection-records-overseas-box-office-687856#5JVcAXFBgvwbjcHl.97 http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kabali-breaks-baahubali-records-fails-beat-sultan-collection-records-overseas-box-office-687856#PtuJAhb0lo5G6J25.97 http://www.koimoi.com/box-office/kabali-all-versions-fails-to-beat-the-opening-day-record-of-bahubali/ http://www.hollybollybuzz.com/news-gossip/rajinikanths-kabali-fails-to-break-salman-khans-sultan-baahubali-box-office-records/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kabali kabali (talk • contribs) 10:11, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Here is Indian express saying that kabali crosses 650 crorehttp://indianexpress.com/photos/entertainment-gallery/rajinikanths-kabali-makes-rs-650-crore-at-box-office-5-baahubali-records-it-demolished-2961844/ Ganeshtvr.mech (talk) 19:49, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ganeshtvr.mech, this has been addressed numerous times on this page. Nobody in their right mind believes that the film made 650 crore at the box office. You might want to familiarize yourself with some of the other sources before presenting a claim like that as a fact. Also, as a matter of general principle, slideshows aren't articles. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:42, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kabali should be at first in overall indian grossers

Mahivaan (talk) 08:56, 12 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It beats the collection of pk,bahubali and bajrangi baijang Mahivaan (talk) 08:58, 12 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kabali box office entered into 400 crore club Gunasekaran710 (talk) 08:21, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Gunasekaran710 No it didn't. You're confusing their pre-release income with box office income. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:01, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kindly include Kabali movie in Top Grossing Indian movie category. Regards Sarose00751 (talk) 12:33, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.financialexpress.com/photos/entertainment-gallery/334390/kabali-box-office-collections-at-over-rs-650-cr-rajinikanth-starrer-is-now-no-1-movie-in-india/ Sarose00751 (talk) 12:37, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Kabali Rs 300 Crore box office collection as given by a third party and independent source is now available. ^[1]. Please help us update. Thanks. --Pearll's Sun^TALK 14:22, 31 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done - pearll's sun, the source says the gross is 250, and they predict Kabali will hit 300. Reading is fundamental. "Trade tracker Ramesh B put the India box office business of the Rajinikanth movie at Rs 142.5 crore net and Rs 166.5 crore gross. With the international box office close to Rs 90 crore, the total BO figure has crossed Rs 250 crore worldwide." and "Rajinikanth’s Kabali is a shoo-in for the Rs 300 crore club." Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:18, 31 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

How about this? "Kabali box office collections: At over Rs 650 cr, Rajinikanth starrer is now No. 1 movie in India"^[1] Thanks. --Pearll's Sun^TALK 19:30, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

pearll's sun - No. See conversation at the bottom of the page opened by Originalboxofficer and responded to by myself and Ricky. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:34, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Will this be taken as a reliable third party source? ^[1] Thanks. --Pearll's Sun^TALK 12:31, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See This reference which casts serious doubt on any gross outside of the 309-350 crore range. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:46, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but the way things go, we are unable to accept the film producers claim on collection and even the third party claim has a conflicting claim. What would we do if this is how it stays for ever?

We now have one more ref, though it doesn't give any particular details on collection we can have this for some reference :) ^[1] Also check these ref's. ^[2][3] --Pearll's Sun^TALK 17:30, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Re: "What would we do if this is how it stays for ever?" I would say that you're overly concerned about a problem that hasn't happened yet. As the data passes through the filter of time, the problem is sure to remedy itself. Of the three references you've linked to above, I have nothing specific to say about the first since it reflects content already found in the list. The other two are the same reference repeated twice. They open with a question indicative of disbelief, "Has Kabali really crossed the Rs 600 crore mark?" They follow this with a cautious statement "If the 600-crore figure is correct, then it would mean that Kabali has matched the worldwide collections of Baahubali". That doesn't sound like a resounding confirmation, in fact, it's quite the opposite, especially when followed up with "More conservative estimates put Kabali’s collections at around Rs 300 crores from worldwide ticket sales." So again, no hard evidence that the box office gross has been in the 600+ range, only skeptical re-reports. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:35, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cyphoidbomb We now have three more third party sources that puts the movie at over 600 crores Indiatimes, IndiaGlitz and Indian Express. Thanks. --Pearll's Sun^TALK 13:17, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

pearll's sun - And again, you're not paying attention to the content of the sources you're pointing me to. You keep pointing me to sources that are blindly regurgitating the tripe from Financial Express, then shifting the burden to me to continue arguing why they're not helpful. I'm not sure how many times you need to hear me argue that if the value is in the 600 crore range, it's almost certainly including pre-release income that we never include in box office details. And if Financial Express is printing totals that other sources have claimed as unrealistically high, I don't know why you're insistent that we consider them, unless you have some vested interest in affirming the high values. As I've previously said, the only thing we know for a fact is that the movie crossed 309-350 crore at the box office. Therefore, that is the reasonable value to include in the article until the data becomes more consistent across the mainstream sources and filtered through time. Surely you've heard that Indian cinema has a lot of box office corruption, right? That's why Times of India stopped reporting box office figures in 2013. So you, as an intelligent, thinking person, should be very skeptical about the latest record-smashing, mind-blowing numbers being reported, particularly when there's no reliable, centralized, impartial methodology for determining the information, and especially when the information keeps coming from the same source. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:34, 7 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Like List of highest-grossing Tamil films, I see no reason why Telugu films should have a separate article than the main Indian films one. Again, we do it by country and not by language within countries. The merger discussion from 2013 until 2015 shows why a single listing makes more sense and there is enough discrepancies between this page and List_of_highest-grossing_Indian_films#Highest-grossing_Telugu_films to make watching both unwarranted. Ricky81682 (talk) 19:54, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I lean toward Merge: Seems like unnecessary child article with somewhat arbitrary figures, ex: highest opening, opening weekend, week... Whatever detail is warranted to include could be maintained here. These pages seem more like ethnic badges of honor, to me. Past discussions across various Indian cinema articles suggest that there is a push to associate certain films with ethnic identity and for each ethnic identity to be in competition with each other. I don't know that there is an analogue for this anywhere else in the film article world. Do we have lists for highest-grossing African-American films or highest-grossing Cuban-American films? My impression after having edited and gnomed at many Indian film articles, is that pages like these seem more like badges of honor for specific ethnic identities in India. Greater feedback from the WikiProject Film community would be appreciated, so I have invited them. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:51, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Merge, per above. Like other individual industry pages of highest-grossing films, they are excessively detailed of trivial information. All industries can be outlined under the List of highest-grossing Indian films to keep topics inclusive and to prevent any prevailing vandalism/crystal balling. — EelamStyleZ (talk) 18:23, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• I actually support a Delete, the article isn't even appropriately titled. EelamStyleZ (talk) 17:15, 7 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Merge: Agree with the nomination. The sources aren't even always reliable. Coderzombie (talk) 09:29, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please update boxoffice collections of movie sultan. The movie has grossed 577 crores worldwide. Here is the source. ^[4]. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ambeinghari (talk • contribs) 14:17, 3 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:55, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia, Showing the collections to be higher than the actual one may put Wikipedia in a promotional campaign. But the showing the figures to be less than what it has earned will earn the film a bad name. I suggest you add the last updated date next to collection column which I believe will sort out half the issues regarding the collections of blockbuster movies. Thank you. Arunkxip (talk) 05:51, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Arunkxip, I'm not concerned with hypothetical damage to a film's reputation. If people are naive enough to expect up-to-the-minute data about films at this encyclopedia, they obviously have no idea what an encyclopedia is. That said, the request otherwise is reasonable given the circumstances, but I assure you that the people who keep conveniently misreading the Financial Express source will continue to make their requests. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 06:46, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's not so... Kabali has reached 650 cr becoming the highest grossing tamil movie.But it's Baahubali that's being listed as the first.

Gauthamravichandran (talk) 06:21, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: See the other responses above. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 06:26, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In the list Pk is on the top with 791 crore. The source which supports that is of koimoi, which is considered as an unreliable source. The figures are manipulated as the total colletion according to Boxoffice India is 742 crore as you can see here. ^[1] likewise Bajrangi Bhaijaan, Chennai Express, Prem Ratan Dhan Payo etc all are higher than original collections. Pls make necessary action to make the article perfect..

Likewise collections of Sultan is now standa at 577 crore as you can see below. Pls update. ^[2] Ambeinghari (talk) 07:28, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Any actions taken Cyphoidbomb Pls.. all collections are misleading readers.. exact collections are mentioned on the sources provided above. Pls check it out. I don't know whether i will get blocked or not, but before going want to contribute some good on this article. Pls see above source.Regards Ambeinghari (talk) 06:33, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

new resource for kabali

http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/regional/rajinikanth-kabali-box-office-collection-rs-650-crore-leaves-salman-khan-sultan-behind/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:80:C516:201:C018:AF51:D5B1:BEF0 (talk) 08:52, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See This reference which casts serious doubt on any gross outside of the 309-350 crore range. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:45, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kabali box office needs to be updated. Source article for your reference is given below: http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kabali-box-office-collection-reports-rajinikanth-starrer-raking-rs-675-crore-13-days-are-fake-688881#Oz9TIMcMAeGq45UD.97

Rragavendaragul (talk) 10:52, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done Ah, finally, a source that seems to be aware that there are some questionable claims being made. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:43, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kabali needs to be updated as 470cr (211 Cr domestic + 259 Cr overseas) based on the link. Excluded pre business from 650cr. http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/regional/rajinikanth-kabali-box-office-collection-rs-650-crore-leaves-salman-khan-sultan-behind/ Pradoblaze (talk) 12:37, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Pradoblaze, see This reference which casts serious doubt on any gross outside of the 309-350 crore range. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:46, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Farid184 (talk) 13:52, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Can you change the collection to Baahubali from 600 crore to 581 crore? Because Baahubali collected 581 crore not 600 crore.

Thank you!

Not done: This source estimates 600 crore broken into 518 crore domestic and 82 crore international. Your request is not supported by any references, and even if it were, you're suggesting what, that we change the value to better fit your worldview? Requesting that the data be presented as a range might be a little wiser. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:35, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The "List of Highest grossing Tamil films" says that Theri has raked in 200 crores,whereas this page says that it has only collected 156 crores. Please fix this.This was the movie's collection some 3 and half weeks after its release.The movie has managed 100 successful days in some theatres. I sincerely think that you should update the collections of the movie. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arunkxip (talk • contribs) 18:28, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Arunkxip, at the time you posted this request, both pages (List of highest-grossing Tamil films, List of highest-grossing Indian films) reflected a 156 crore value for Theri, so I'm unclear about what you want changed, or what the references are that you want other editors to look at that would support a higher value. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:08, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In terms of Kabali,

Why is ibtimes.co.in more reliable source than indianexpress.com, indiatoday.in and www.financialexpress.com ?

indianexpress, indiatoday, and fincialexpress are also leading newspapers in india.

In that case, three sources talks about 600 crore, and only ibtimes talks about 350 crore.

3 source against 1 source Why you should prefere ibtimes.com ????

I´m waiting for a detailed explanation

so far ~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:77:6F5F:D61D:C117:35C6:B407:1F5C (talk) 19:31, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm assuming you haven't actually read the references, because you're missing some obvious red flags, but let's go down the list.

1. Wikipedia has no deadline. This is not a breaking news source, it is an encyclopedia. If we have to wait to get stable, believable numbers, then we will wait. We are under no obligation to maniacally report whatever the source-of-the-minute says, and if there is a maniacal push to update these numbers, that's even more reason to slow down.
2. Higher numbers ≠ more accurate numbers
3. You and I both know that there is rampant corruption in Indian film box office numbers and there is no "official" data. All numbers are estimates and all claims should be treated with skepticism and scrutiny.
4. There has already been a push by Kabali's marketing team to authenticate a 320 crore claim that was made by the producer several days ago. This was the reason why the article was protected. We don't regurgitate controversial claims made by producers or other primary sources, which would include their marketing departments, director statements, etc.
5. We're not here to sell tickets to Kabali.
6. I don't know which India Today reference you're talking about, but if you are referring to this one, there's no indication Indiatoday has vetted the content themselves. They attribute the source of the information to the Financial Express. They even acknowledge some doubt in the phrasing "If reports are to go by, Kabali has equalled the worldwide collections of Baahubali and surpassed Salman Khan's Sultan", i.e. "If we assume that the numbers are correct, then Kabali has performed thusly." Theirs is not an incontrovertible statement of fact.
7. This source from Financial Express is a slideshow, which is not a great reference because it's not a proper article. We don't know who wrote that. What if it was an intern with no journalistic experience? They're citing 650 crore, but they're obviously adding in the pre-release income, which is never a part of box office take. Box office take is always what is brought in during a theatrical run. We're not accountants here to tally all the various monies each film made from box office release, DVD sales, satellite rights, music rights, iTunes purchases, Netflix revenues, etc. We care about budget, we care about income during the theatrical release. This 645 claim by Financial Express has done the same thing. So at best, you'd have to subtract 200 crore from those values, including your 600 crore number.
8. Indian Express seems to be part of the same "Express Group" organization, so I don't see this as a unique references. Further, the source linked here also cites Financial Express as the source of their data, so the 650 crore claim has not been independently verified through them either. Thus we know that of the three sources you are attempting to push as the majority, all three contain data that originates from the same place, Financial Express. That's only one source, not three. And I'll go one further to ask rhetorically: who exactly is the author of the Financial Express articles that claim 650 crore? I don't see that any reporter has put their name on the line. Not a huge deal, as staff writers are commonplace, but it certainly raises red flags considering all the inconsistencies and questionable data.
9. Meanwhile, a named reporter from International Business Times has gone out of their way to describe these high numbers as flat-out fake, and has gotten estimates from two media analysts who feel the values are more in the 309-350 range.

So, based on all this information, the only thing we can say for sure is that the film has thus far grossed somewhere in the 309–350 crore range. Given that there are two estimates from IBT I've presented it as a range, but anything higher than that coming from Financial Express is suspect for the time being, and since (per point #1) we are under no obligation to keep up with the minute-by-minute claims, and since there is no deadline, we can wait until a number of sources get closer in agreement with their estimates. My suspicion is that Financial Express is republishing claims made by Kabali's marketing department without labeling it properly. This might also be why we're not seeing the names of specific reporters as we do here. That should answer your questions. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:00, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please update Kabali to 350 crore, i think this source shoud be fine

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kabali-box-office-collection-rajinikanth-starrer-beats-7-big-records-baahubali-bahubali-688964 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:80:C516:201:8CB7:8088:2DC6:86AE (talk) 08:30, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

350 crore is already in the article. I'll add the reference if you like. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:44, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

1)According to sources and official confirmation 24 grossed 156crore in 26 days(www.skylarkpictures.in, www.galaxyreporter.com, www.moviereviews.in, www.thecourierdaily.com, www.gackhollywood.com , www.onlookersmedia.in, www.iluvcinema.in) 2)according to confirmation made by Wikipedia theri grossed 175 crores,sivaji only 128 crores,vedalam 126 crores,kaththi124 crores,singam2 122 crores(www.Wikipedia.org) Athulnandu (talk) 10:24, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done - It's unclear what changes you want to be made. Please phrase your request in a "Please change X to Y" format, and please provide reliable sources. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:57, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Except International Business Times, till now there is no other source says Kabali Crosses 600 Cr. All other sources which says this collection, stating source is International Business Times. So suspect is there. IBT says one day it fails to break Bhagubali and Sultan and after two days they expressed it broke all records. How is it possible to beat, even if the film is not performing well third weeks of its release. Now the movie is running less theaters due to new releases and it is not possible to beat blockbusters like Bhagubali and Sultan even those third and fourth week's collection is same like second week whereas it does not workout in Kabali. Please verify all data from liable sources. The same V Creations declared their earlier project Theri crossed 100 crores in four days but after that they did not say anything about the total collection and Wikipedia does not have even estimated total value of the film's lifetime collection.

Now-a-days, saying the film crossed 100 crores in two or three days and it broke all previous records, etc is a market trick to promote the movie to run success in theaters. Kabali's pre-release business is around 200 crores included their BO records but it should not include as per calculation of BO business and that should be calculated in total business. Some sources provided about its fact related to prove the above description. Thanks.

http://www.bollywoodlife.com/news-gossip/rajinikanths-kabali-fails-to-break-salman-khans-sultan-baahubali-box-office-records/ http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kabali-breaks-baahubali-records-fails-beat-sultan-collection-records-overseas-box-office-687856#5JVcAXFBgvwbjcHl.97 http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kabali-breaks-baahubali-records-fails-beat-sultan-collection-records-overseas-box-office-687856#PtuJAhb0lo5G6J25.97 http://www.koimoi.com/box-office/kabali-all-versions-fails-to-beat-the-opening-day-record-of-bahubali/ http://www.hollybollybuzz.com/news-gossip/rajinikanths-kabali-fails-to-break-salman-khans-sultan-baahubali-box-office-records/

Include 24 in the list of highest grossing tamil movies. It has grossed 100 crores at global box office.The reference is given below.Please refer to it and add it to the list ^[1]

Gauthamravichandran (talk) 12:37, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Gauthamravichandran - Consensus determined that we're only interested in the top 10 films released in those languages. We already have 10 examples. If 24 surpasses Sivaji, feel free to make your request again. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:56, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia has no deadline, why was this not applied for Sultan at ₹ 297.56 crore as per these ref's? ^[1][2][3]. If these ref's applies then Sultan has to be removed from both (Hindi films and India's top 15) the list as its yet to cross ₹ 300 crore. Thanks. --Pearll's Sun^TALK 14:56, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

pearll's sun, at the time the last change to Sultan was made, there wasn't a days-old conflict going on about its gross, with editors trying to force in content coming from the producer. That's the reason why the article was protected to begin with. The gross bloating is secondary to that. Further, I think this is a reading comprehension issue, since one of the sources you've provided, this, says "With the film set to gross Rs 300 crore in the domestic market" Directly underneath that paragraph is a link to another article, which reads "ALSO READ: Sultan box office collection- Salman-Anushka's film crosses the Rs 500-cr mark worldwide" If we go to that reference, "If Salman Khan and Anushka Sharma's latest release Sultan is galloping towards the Rs 300-crore mark in India, the film has already crossed the Rs 500-crore mark worldwide." Further, if we look at the slideshow you've linked to, on slide #4 it says that Sultan has grossed Rs 570.20 crore worldwide.

So what exact dispute or problem are you trying to illustrate here? The box office totals in this list should reflect worldwide box office totals, not domestic. Please be more circumspect about your questions. You're now asking questions that are not pertinent and that are distracting me from more fruitful pursuits. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:42, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is what i'm pointing to. Sultan collected ₹ 4.43 cr in Week 4, taking the 4-week total to ₹ 298.23 cr nett... All set to cross ₹ 300 cr in coming days... ATBB - 5 Aug 2016.. This person seems to a third party party movie critic and analyst. Does it only point to Domestic and not overall (including overseas)? Not urgent, Please reply when you find time. Thanks. --Pearll's Sun^TALK 16:12, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

pearll's sun - Again, I think this is a reading comprehension issue. Adarsh is tweeting about nett figures, not gross. He appears to be an analyst for BollywoodHungama, so note their expanded data. His tweet says ₹298.23 nett. As of this moment, Bollywood Hungama lists ₹298.23 nett in the domestic table. ₹418.27 crore is indicated as the domestic gross, and 580.37 crore is indicated as the worldwide gross. So still, no dispute. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:08, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

pearll's sun As i am an Indian and a movie geek taran adarsh movie critic working for Bollywood hungama is actually tweeting about it Indian version that too the nett collection. Worldwide is now 580 crores. To get through all your doubts and clarification i present to you the day wise break up it now. Pls check this source ^[1]. You can clearly see day wise, india and worldwide collections. Thanks. Ambeinghari (talk) 02:36, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

need to add the kabali in the Global gross figures as 14 before hte BANG BANG

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| style="background:#9fc;"|* Kabali | 2016 | Pa. Ranjith | Kalaipuli S. Thanu |₹309–350 crore (US$46–52 million) | ^[2][3] |-

Ksb1983 (talk) 18:26, 5 August 2016 (UTC) Global gross figures[reply]

please add the kabali in the global grossing indian movie list 2 | style="background:#9fc;"|* Kabali | 2016 | Pa. Ranjith | Kalaipuli S. Thanu |₹309–350 crore (US$46–52 million) | ^[2][3] |-

Not done for now: Seems to me the jury's still out on what Kabali made. Seems premature to assume the 350 figure is indisputable when IBT reported a range between 309 and 350. First Post also noted estimates in the low 300 range. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:43, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Almost all films listed in the highest grossing Bollywood movies are manipulated, as different sources say diff values. Koimoi is been in for so many discussions whether its a reliable source or not. Boxoffice India is lot more accurate among all of these. There are huge difference between the collections which are mentioned in koimoi and boxoffice india. Almost 20-50crs. Need OPINIONS about this problem. As its an important page which states the highest grossing movies, we should do our best to improve and show more of a reliable source. Here is what i got. ^[1]. Its mentiones all highest grossing movies. Shall we replace koimoi sources which are unreliable with these above mentioned boxoffice india source. Expert Opinions and suggestions pls.......... Ambeinghari (talk) 05:12, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Ambeinghari: For note, WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources has a list of sources for grosses that are considered reliable or unreliable. Koimoi is not considered reliable. Box Office India is considered reliable. Use that instead of Koimoi. EvergreenFir (talk) 05:54, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for reliable sources list. Will be helpful. Regards Ambeinghari (talk) 06:06, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to help. EvergreenFir (talk) 06:08, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if this has already been explained but I just wanted a clear consensus being made, after I see that Baahubali has been removed from the list of Tamil films. Are we concluding that Baahubali is a Telugu film only? — EelamStyleZ (talk) 18:16, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

EelamStyleZ - A clear consensus already exists here to include the film in the list of Tamil films, since it was simultaneously filmed in Telugu and Tamil. Rahmana4978 removed it without an explanation in this edit. Care to explain why, Rahmana1978? The list is not divided into precious ethnic film industries, rather, it is divided into languages. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:14, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect that this will be like the multitudes of other editors who never comment or discuss their reasoning and just rabidly edit to get what they want or disappear until someone new comes later to argue the same thing. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 00:13, 7 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for clarifying that. It's probably best to immediately revert controversial edits done without explanation. EelamStyleZ (talk) 04:40, 7 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cyphoidbomb, well said. Its a dual language, Telugu and Tamil movie. --Pearll's Sun^TALK 15:11, 7 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I know, Baahubali is a Telugu language film and not a bi-lingual made in Tamil as well. The film was promoted as an original Tamil film too, but if you watch the film, then you will see the Lip sync not matching in several scenes. As the film became a blockbuster in Tamil language, everyone forgot it as a dubbed film and even won many awards in original Tamil films category. My suggestion is that we should keep Baahubali as a Telugu film dubbed in other languages. In this case, it can be removed from the list of Tamil top grossers. ( Unfortunately I do not have any evidence to show it as a Tamil dubbed version ). Rajeshbieee (talk) 22:34, 7 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rajeshbieee - Your understanding appears to be flawed, since there were numerous sources that explained it was filmed in two languages at once. Whether or not they used some scenes where the lip sync doesn't match up, is irrelevant. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:56, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Actually as am from south india and very close to movie industries down south, as there are lots of source proving the movie was bilingual film. The movie was dubbed to Hindi and Malayalam. And was made simultaneously in telugu and tamil. Director and lead actor even mentioned that on movie promotions. Thanks. Ambeinghari (talk) 15:48, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cyphoidbomb - I agree with you and I am not here to prove that I am right as it has been approved by our team that Baahubali is a bi-lingual. Rajeshbieee (talk) 18:04, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kabali has earned a total of 450 crores worldwide.most of the websites report saying that Kabali has collected 650 to 700 crores.we all know that these values aren't true.But on closer examination, each of these websites have clearly mentioned that the 650 crore is including the pre-release sales(200 crores).Neglecting them, we would still get the total collections of Kabali as 450 crores and not 350 crores.Kindly change it. Only International Business Times state that the film has earned 350 crores.The IBT reported saying that the film has grossed over 200 crores in the domestic market.whereas the above mentioned websites state that Kabali has collected around 220 crores and the end of its 2nd week. The values match!. I dont know why Wikipedia relies only on IBT which does not even mention the name of "Trade experts" on the grounds of'requested anonymity' Here are a list of websites which support my statement. http://www.filmibeat.com/tamil/news/2016/kabali-total-worldwide-box-office-collections-3-week-nearing-700-crore-236822.html http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/baahubali-2-kabali-rajinikanth-ss-rajamouli-box-office/1/733808.html http://indianexpress.com/photos/entertainment-gallery/rajinikanths-kabali-makes-rs-650-crore-at-box-office-5-baahubali-records-it-demolished-2961844/ Thank You! Arunkxip (talk) 14:41, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Arunkxip - Filmibeat is not considered a reliable source. See WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources and note "Oneindia". That leaves two references.
• I don't see any of the claims you've made reflected in the India Today reference that you linked to. That leaves one reference.
• "IBT which does not even mention the name of "Trade experts" on the grounds of'requested anonymity'" - Okay, let's continue that thought process. Who wrote the slideshow you linked to here? What analysts are quoted? Who wrote this slideshow? What analysts are quoted? Who wrote this Financial Express article? What analyst is quoted? You can't have it both ways. If unnamed sources is a problem for you, then what do you propose? We remove all box office data for Kabali? That's certainly a possibility. Oh, I also don't think that slideshows are very useful as references. I would imagine that interns put these together, not reporters.
• Wikipedia doesn't only rely on IBT. If there were more mainstream sources reporting info, that'd be great! Right now there is a real problem with Kabali's claims. We have one source, Financial Express, making big claims about records being broken and reporting astronomical gross sums. We have a number of sources that are reprinting Financial Express's claims with no independent verification. On the other hand, we have IBT and Firstpost casting serious doubts about these claims. Doubt speaks volumes. If a source makes a big claim, and another source publicly denounces it, don't you think that's worth serious consideration? Especially in the corrupt world of Indian cinema financial data? These are the only three sources really addressing the financials. It would seem that taking the conservative path until all the data solidifies is the smart thing to do. We are in no hurry. Wikipedia has no deadline. If you want to swallow the 450+ crore values, that's your option as a consumer. But from an academic perspective, there is no harm in being cautious. Encyclopedias are focused on the long-term. We're not a breaking news source. And since you can't make 450 crore without first making 350 crore, it is accurate to assert that 350 crore has been made. At best we're preventing a situation where Wikipedia is being used as part of Kabali's marketing campaign, and at worst we're only delaying the delivery of information a few weeks. These are perfectly acceptable options.
• IBT's latest says that the film crossed the 300 crore milestone, but doesn't mention it crossing 400 crore. They also question some of the records being claimed as having been broken. What's your solution for this? Ignore it and only print the high numbers and record-breaking claims? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:46, 10 August 2016 (UT

Regarding the India Today reference,

Check the second line on the seventh para on the page. It says "Kabali is likely to gross 600 crore worldwide".

So I guess you cant rule out that reference.If one isn't sure on the figure displayed, atleast we can put Disputed-Discuss in square brackets next to the collection(Like the one next to thuppaki)

Thank You!

Arunkxip (talk) 16:13, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You mean when they describe the film as being "strom" at the box office? Of course we can rule it out. It doesn't support your 450 crore claim, for one. Secondly, if they're ambiguously suggesting that the film is expected to gross 600 crore at the box office, that's problematic, because no other sources believably suggest that 600 crore was taken in at the box. Or do you mean that we should draw a conclusion not expressly stated in the article, and assume that they mean 400 crore was grossed? That's dicey. And don't forget that they've attributed Financial Express as the source of the data, so again, we're only talking about one reference as the source of the questionable data: Financial Express. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:34, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

somebody should add the the section of "highest grossing franchise and film series", open Highest grossing films and see the sample. Taniya94 (talk) 14:44, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Taniya94, why are US dollars the default currency for this table? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:07, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cyphoidbomb, I don't know, I tried to convert it to INR but I failed. Can you help me to do it?? Taniya94 (talk) 09:01, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I know that this is a bit too late.But anyways 'Wikipedia does not have a Deadline'.The collections of PK displayed in the table is its total collection when it hit the screens the first time in 2014(December). The movie was the released in china some 5 months later and had grossed around 200 crores there.I guess we need to update the movie's collections and add this 200 crores to the already existing amount. http://www.daily-sun.com/printversion/details/47585/lsquoPKrsquo-earns-over-Rs-200-crore-in-China Thank You Arunkxip (talk) 16:23, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The reference provided in the page says that "Theri had crossed 156 crores at the end of its first week worldwide and is heading towards 200 crore".(god knows why no one had bothered to update the film collections after that!!). Well, guess he was right!Theri had a much longer run than that and The movie went on to cross 200 crores in its worldwide collections.Here are some websites that support my statement. http://www.charminartalkies.com/beats-enthiran-theri-200-crores-club/ http://www.galaxyreporter.com/2016/05/theri-total-collections-theri-collections-beats-record-thuppaki-katthi-vijay.html Thank you! Arunkxip (talk) 17:06, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Arunkxip, please read our guidelines on reliable sources so that you don't keep basing your requests on insufficient references. We don't care what blogs have to say because anybody with an internet connection can start a blog and proclaim himself an expert. Both of these sources are blogs, and thus, they are insufficient. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:43, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Financial express stated that kabali has grossed over 650crs http://www.financialexpress.com/photos/entertainment-gallery/334390/kabali-box-office-collections-at-over-rs-650-cr-rajinikanth-starrer-is-now-no-1-movie-in-india/3/ Can you verify this and post it. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.207.181.55 (talk • contribs)

No. See all the previous responses on this subject. 1) The value you are citing includes pre-release income that is never factored into a film's gross. We only care about box office receipts. 2) The high numbers reported by Financial Express were disputed by IBT and Firstpost. 3) We're not in any hurry to update the table as we are not a breaking news site. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:29, 12 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kabali collections reaches the highest collection of asia.. Mahivaan (talk) 08:59, 12 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done - It's unclear what change you are requesting. We don't have a table for "highest collection of Asia". Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:29, 12 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kabali is 2nd in the list of highest grossing Indian Films and not 12th, as the movie's collection stands at ₹677 crore. Thus, Kabali becomes the highest grossing Tamil Film of all time and not Baahubali. The proof for the same has been provided below. http://www.financialexpress.com/photos/entertainment-gallery/337249/kabali-box-office-collections-rajinikanth-starrer-rises-slowly-to-rs-677-crore-northern-collection-a-concern/5/

183.83.49.165 (talk) 12:34, 12 August 2016 (UTC) ^[1][reply]

Not done: See all the previous responses on this subject. 1) The value you are citing includes pre-release income that is never factored into a film's gross. We only care about box office receipts. 2) The high numbers reported by Financial Express were disputed by IBT and Firstpost. 3) We're not in any hurry to update the table as we are not a breaking news site. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:26, 12 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

115.113.233.209 (talk) 19:15, 12 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:19, 12 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

One user updated Baahubali gross from 600 to 650 crs. Also provided IBTimes source. I know IBTimes is a reliable source, but in this case it doesn't seems correct. Is it acceptable?? Ambeinghari (talk) 13:43, 13 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Can you be more specific about your objection, Ambeinghari? In his edit summary, Bhuvannalla explained, "Changed the collections of Baahubali according to the latest standard reference source from 600 to 650 crores as the movie was released in many languages in recent times." Was it recently released elsewhere? Does anyone know how much it grossed? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:42, 13 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cyphoidbomb Yes it was recently released in china on july. But the film was not a success there and almost collected 1 million on its opening weekend, which is close to 7 crore Indian rupees. After that the movie show reduction in screen and collections. Even we add 7- 10 crores it should be around 610 crs max. 650 is really impossible... here are both sources, pls check. ^[1][2] I don't know whether the second source is reliable, but the things it mentioned are true. So for me its another manipulated collections like Kabali...thanks.. Ambeinghari (talk) 02:53, 14 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Recently Baahubali was released not only in China but also in Germany, Taiwan, many European countries and Latin American countries. So, I think IBTimes is not exaggerating the collections of Baahubali. It might have included the collections from all the countries. Even 650 crores is also not final. The number may increase further. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhuvannalla (talk • contribs) 08:10, 14 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Bhuvannalla can you show proofs showing Baahubali was released not only in China but also in Germany, Taiwan, many European countries and Latin American countries???? Ambeinghari (talk) 16:46, 14 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ambeinghari, I found this, which says the film made US $630,000 in China after its first weekend, which would be about 4.2 crore rupees. I haven't done any more research on the matter. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:11, 14 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cyphoidbomb i had done so many surfing on internet, couldn't find any thing related to 650crs gross. No official confirmation from the twitter handlers of movie or actors said about the release in Germany , Latinamerica etc... its a clear mistake. Boxoffice should be reverted. Thanks Ambeinghari (talk) 13:05, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ambeinghari, here are the resources showing Baahubali releasing in different countries like Germany, France, Taiwan, Peru, etc.

http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/regional/baahubali-released-in-france-the-french-are-in-awe-of-prabhas-performance-2856639/ http://www.ibtimes.co.in/bahubali-germany-box-office-collection-ich-bin-baahubali-fails-make-it-big-opening-weekend-677222#wHYllSiP6wQIPlmq.97 http://www.firstpost.com/bollywood/baahubali-the-beginning-makes-a-mark-at-chinese-box-office-2816858.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhuvannalla (talk • contribs) 14:29, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the sources. That itself say the movie got bad collections in Germany and china. And good response in france but no boxoffice reports. 650crs is unbelievable. Ambeinghari (talk) 02:32, 16 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

kabali earned around 680 cr. worldwide so it need to be put on 2nd in grosser list.^[1]

Comaman679 (talk) 09:39, 14 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: For reasons explained numerous times on this page. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 10:28, 14 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Update sec 'Global gross figures' to incorporate:

PS: Second reference at https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/280748

2404:E800:E609:189:E89B:7635:E83:7A2B (talk) 10:00, 14 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: For reasons explained numerous times on this page. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 10:28, 14 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No change

49.206.114.24 (talk) 12:53, 14 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:30, 14 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kabali's stated collections on the page appear to be improbable and the cited reference (http://www.dekhnews.com/till-today-kabali-box-office-collection/) is poorly written and does not appear to be a credible source. I feel it would be prudent to take down Kabali from all lists on the page until such time that its gross collections can be verified by multiple credible sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Retroflex79 (talk • contribs) 15:48, 16 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Retroflex79 -  Done - I agree. Garbage reference. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:03, 16 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Guys just do one thing delete this indian box office page from Wikipedia.This thing want work even a waste movies as per source and news won't be gaining that much amount.Have you guys watched sultan movie really did that movie is good.Think practically even there is story in dhoom3 even lots of films failed ex:-prem ratan dhan paying,kick,theri these are flop films lots of fans are still didn't understand how this films did well in box office.Now the same happening with kabali too.Lots media is just giving false trail.One cannot judge with media.Only way is fb review.Even we cannot go for box office collection just best better good movies. Vshek (talk) 17:41, 16 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Vshek -  Not done - It's unclear what change your proposing, and really it sounds like you're ranting about films, which is not an appropriate use of an article talk page. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:03, 16 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

So now it's time to update collection of kabali there are lots of viewers depends upon news on this page.We cannot keep on counting for the news on IBT or any other source in spite there is no media is publishing the box office collection of kabali.THANKS Vshek (talk) 06:43, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Vshek - I disagree. We can wait. When we have strong reporting from mainstream sources that paint a more realistic picture of Kabali's box office performance, then we can make the changes. So far we have one source that says it grossed over 600 crore at the box office, we have two sources that say it did not, and then we have a bunch of crappy sources reprinting the questionable data. It's hardly definitive. Also Wikipedia is not a news site, so we're not required to report the news. See also WP:NODEADLINE. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 07:15, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Change Prem Ratan Dhan Payo collections from its collections given in this page to 365 cr.

http://www.boxofficeindia.com/movie.php?movieid=3125 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wadelison (talk • contribs) 14:22, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wadelison - You need to articulate a specific reason for making a change like this. I'd be more inclined to agree if you could explain why it should change from 432 crore to 365 crore. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:17, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I believe Boxofficeindia is a reliable website for giving box office collections of a Bollywood movie. Though Indian cine industry hasn't seen an accurate provider of movie collection like Boxoffice Mojo/Rentrak, the stats on Boxofficeindia tallies with figures given by trade analysts. Also, Boxofficeindia's citations have been used for other movie's collections given on this page. So, it must be used for Prem Ratan Dhan Payo.And as given in the DNA page, the 432cr stat is stated by Courier Daily, I ain't sure about its reliability. -Wadelison — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wadelison (talk • contribs)

Wadelison - I tend to agree with you that the DNA reference isn't a strong one if they cite The Courier Daily. The Courier site I saw looks like a faceless blog. I don't know why DNA is reprinting their data, but DNA doesn't appear to be vetting the content. I'll wait a bit for other editors to discuss. The content has been in the article for months. I'm not sure who added it. I do see in earlier versions of the list that there were these references used [1][2]. So it seems likely that it did cross 400 crore. I don't think that Boxofficeindia.com should be used as a definitive source any more than any of the other sites should. BOI, however, has a tendency to stop reporting box office data after a while, and then their pages tend to become inaccessible over time, requiring constant additions of archive links. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 07:25, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

<! Kabali collection is mentioned wrong here. Please refer to {http://www.wholereultss.com/kabali-movie-first-day-box-office-income-1st-day-collections-of-kabali-rajinikanth/}<!

rkumaran05 (talk) 22:42, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done - Antoronson05 - I'm a bit surprised that a person of such discriminating tastes would want us to use a faceless blog as a reference, but alas, we won't. Anyone can create a blog and print whatever nonsense he wants. We only care what reliable mainstream sources with established reputations for fact-checking and accuracy have to say about anything. One tip-off that this was an insufficient source might have been the fact that they misspell "results" in their own URL. Hmmm... That's a thinker. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:08, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]