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== New Edit Request ==

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Please update Kaala movie collections , Refer the below links

*http://english.sakshi.com/news/2018/06/07/kaala-us-premieres-collection

*https://www.hindustantimes.com/regional-movies/rajinikanth-s-kaala-earns-rs-230-crore-before-release-needs-rs-280-crore-at-bo-to-be-a-blockbuster/story-N9UDz5tIhmKPaFowAZBjkL.html

*https://www.businesstoday.in/trending/entertainment/rajinikanths-kaala-earns-rs-230-crore-ahead-of-release/story/278538.html

*https://www.ndtv.com/entertainment/rajinikanths-kaala-is-halfway-to-hit-status-already-with-230-crore-earned-even-before-release-1863314

*http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/tamil/kaala-box-office-prediction-rajinikanth-5207851/ <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding

*http://www.thehansindia.com/posts/index/Tollywood/2018-06-07/Rajinikanths-Kaala-First-Day-Box-Office-Collections-Report/387293

*http://www.bollywoodlife.com/news-gossip/kaala-box-office-collection-day-1-rajinikanths-film-beats-thalapathy-vijays-mersal-rakes-in-rs-1-76-crore-and-becomes-the-highest-opening-day-grosser-in-chennai/

*https://www.financialexpress.com/entertainment/kaala-box-office-collection-phenomenal-start-rajinikanth-starrer-set-to-earn-around-rs-30-cr-on-day-1/1197008/

[[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/180.151.49.206|180.151.49.206]] ([[User talk:180.151.49.206#top|talk]]) 09:00, 7 June 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]]&nbsp;'''Not done:'''<!-- Template:EEp --> What sort of statement are you asking us to make about Kaala's gross? Also, you're not asking for the pre-release income to be included in box office receipts, are you? Because box office receipts = money made at the box office, not money made pre-selling satellite rights [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 14:52, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

yes please update only box office records,

https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/regional-cinema/story/rajinikanth-kaala-box-office-collection-day-5-becomes-second-highest-grosser-of-2018-1258030-2018-06-12

http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/tamil/kaala-box-office-rajinikanth-film-crosses-rs-100-crore-mark-5214112/

https://www.firstpost.com/entertainment/kaala-opening-weekend-box-office-collection-rajinikanth-starrer-garners-rs-114-cr-worldwide-in-four-days-4506797.html <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:180.151.49.206|180.151.49.206]] ([[User talk:180.151.49.206#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/180.151.49.206|contribs]]) 08:16, 12 June 2018 (UTC)</small>

:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]]&nbsp;'''Not done:'''<!-- Template:EEp --> You've added an additional 3 references, which say different things. Even if we went by the highest gross of 114 crore worldwide, that wouldn't put Kaala onto the list in this article. It would have to gross 149 crore in ticket sales to move Theri off the list. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 17:37, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Kaala latest collection is 184.35 crores please update http://bollywoodbreakfast.com/kaala-13th-day-box-office-collection-worldwide/ <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/180.151.49.206|180.151.49.206]] ([[User talk:180.151.49.206#top|talk]]) 09:32, 20 June 2018‎ (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xsign -->

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Vivegam - Tamil Movie - Box Office Above 160 Crores - Source : India Today - https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/regional-cinema/story/vivegam-box-office-collection-ajith-kumar-kajal-aggarwal-1041594-2017-09-10

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}} [[User:SankarStark|SankarStark]] ([[User talk:SankarStark|talk]]) 19:52, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

== Toilet ek Prem Katha should be in top 25 highest grossing Indian films ==

While toilet ek Prem Katha wiki page shows it has grossed more than 300cr. Then, why it's not placed in top 25 highest grossing indian films. It should firstly be ranked in top 25 then it should be ranked above Raees. [[User:Vikram jha18|Vikram jha18]] ([[User talk:Vikram jha18|talk]]) 04:51, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes i agreed [[User:Amtpatel01|Amtpatel01]] ([[User talk:Amtpatel01|talk]]) 06:25, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

== Aamir Khan and Salman Khan Should Be Mentioned in the Introduction section of Global gross figures ==

In the List of 25 Movies Salman Khan and Aamir Khan have the most Movies. Salman Khan has 6 and Aamir Khan Has 5 Of which 4 Aamir Khan Movies are in the top 10 and 3 Salman Khan Movies are in the Top. The Two Actors definitely deserve a special mention in the introductions of the Section Global gross figures. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Birsanagarwala|Birsanagarwala]] ([[User talk:Birsanagarwala#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Birsanagarwala|contribs]]) 09:32, 22 June 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:{{not done}} The above user has been traveling article-to-article adding bolded text calling Aamir Khan the "World's Biggest Superstar".[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=UTV_Motion_Pictures&diff=prev&oldid=847032147] There's obviously a promotional agenda here. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 17:23, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

== Baahubali is not bilingual movie ==

Baahubali is a pure telugu movie which is dubbed into other languages. Please don't include the movie in Tamil language category. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Rjchandra|Rjchandra]] ([[User talk:Rjchandra#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rjchandra|contribs]]) 15:58, 22 June 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:{{ping|Rjchandra}} According to our mainstream sources,[https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/jun/26/baahubali-film-bollywood-tamil-telugu-language][https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/telugu/movies/news/Rajamouli-goes-digital-for-Bahubali/articleshow/20784393.cms] the film was shot simultaneously in Telugu and Tamil. Any change to the contrary would have to be supported with solid references, not your personal assertions. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 17:21, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

== Highest-grossing Opening Weekends ==

I suggest a new section for the Opening Weekend Gross. I have made up a list of 20 films so far. For Hindi films which had a three day opening weekend, I have taken the data from Box Office India[https://boxofficeindia.com/worldwide-first-weekend.php] and the rest are from individual reports.

{| class="wikitable sortable plainrowheaders" style="margin:auto; margin:auto;"

|-

! scope="col"| Rank

! scope="col"| Film

! scope="col"| Opening Weekend Gross

! scope="col"| Language

! scope="col"| Year

! class="unsortable"| Source(s)

|-

| 1

! scope="row"| ''[[Baahubali 2: The Conclusion]]''

| {{INRConvert|540|c|lk=c}}

| Telugu<br>Tamil

| 2017

| <ref>{{cite web|url=http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/baahubali-2-box-office-collection-day-3-ss-rajamouli-film-prabhas-4634664/ |title=Baahubali 2 box office collection day 3: With Rs 540 crore worldwide collection, the age of SS Rajamouli is here |work=The Indian Express |date=1 May 2017 |accessdate=1 May 2017 |deadurl=no |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20170430185633/http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/baahubali-2-box-office-collection-day-3-ss-rajamouli-film-prabhas-4634664/ |archivedate=30 April 2017 }}</ref>

|-

| 2

! scope="row"| ''[[Sultan (2016 film)|Sultan]]''

| {{INRConvert|328|c}}

| Hindi

| 2016

| <ref name="race3"/>

|-

| 3

! scope="row"| ''[[Kabali (film)|Kabali]]''

| {{INRConvert|211.25|c}}

| Tamil

| 2016

|<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.ibtimes.co.in/kabali-3-day-box-office-collection-rajinikanth-starrer-grosses-over-rs-200-crore-worldwide-687728|title='Kabali' 3rd day box office collection: Rajinikanth's flick grosses over Rs. 200 crore worldwide in first weekend|work=IBTimes |date=25 July 2016}}</ref>

|-

| 4

! scope="row"| ''[[Sanju]]''

| {{INRConvert|201.99|c}}

| Hindi

| 2018

|<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.ibtimes.co.in/sanju-worldwide-box-office-collection-ranbir-kapoor-film-crosses-rs-200-crore-gross-mark-3-days-773722|title=Sanju box office collection: Ranbir Kapoor film crosses Rs 200 crore gross mark worldwide in 3 days|work=IBTime|date=3 July 2018|accessdate=6 July 2018}}</ref>

|-

| 5

! scope="row"| ''[[Dangal (film)|Dangal]]''

| {{INRConvert|198.64|c}}

| Hindi

| 2016

| <ref name="boi"/>

|-

| 6

! scope="row"| ''[[Padmaavat]]''

| {{INRConvert|196.84|c}}

| Hindi

| 2018

| <ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/box-office-special-features/box-office-worldwide-collections-day-wise-break-padmaavat/|title=Box Office: Worldwide collections and day wise break up of Padmaavat|publisher=Bollywood Hungama|accessdate=28 January 2018}}</ref>

|-

| 7

! scope="row"| ''[[Dhoom 3]]''

| {{INRConvert|194.3|c}}

| Hindi

| 2013

| <ref name="boi"/>

|-

| 8

! scope="row"| ''[[Tiger Zinda Hai]]''

| {{INRConvert|189|c}}

| Hindi

| 2017

| <ref name="boi"/>

|-

| 9

! scope="row"| ''[[Bajrangi Bhaijaan]]''

| {{INRConvert|187.24|c}}

| Hindi

| 2015

| <ref name="boi"/>

|-

| 10

! scope="row"| ''[[Prem Ratan Dhan Payo]]''

| {{INRConvert|185.15|c}}

| Hindi

| 2015

| <ref name="boi"/>

|-

| 11

! scope="row"| ''[[Race 3]]''

| {{INRConvert|181.32|c}}

| Hindi

| 2018

|<ref name="race3">{{cite web|url=https://www.ibtimes.co.in/race-3-total-worldwide-box-office-collection-salman-khans-film-grosses-rs-175-crore-3-days-772371|title=Race 3 total worldwide box office collection: Salman Khan's film grosses Rs 180 crore in 3 days |work=IBTimes |date=19 June 2018}}</ref>

|-

| 12

! scope="row"| ''[[PK (film)|PK]]''

| {{INRConvert|175.78|c}}

| Hindi

| 2014

| <ref name="boi">{{cite web|title=TOP WORLDWIDE FIRST WEEKEND ALL TIME|url=https://boxofficeindia.com/worldwide-first-weekend.php|website=Box Office India|date=22 December 2014}}</ref>

|-

| 13

! scope="row"| ''[[Happy New Year (2014 film)|Happy New Year]]''

| {{INRConvert|174.57|c}}

| Hindi

| 2014

|<ref name="boi"/>

|-

| 14

! scope="row"| ''[[Baahubali: The Beginning]]''

| {{INRConvert|169|c}}

| Telugu<br>Tamil

| 2015

| <ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.ibtimes.co.in/baahubali-1st-weekend-collection-box-office-business-rajamoulis-film-crosses-150-cr-3-days-639010|title='Baahubali' (Bahubali) 1st Weekend Collection at Box Office: Business of Rajamouli's Film Crosses ₹165 Cr in 3 Days|work=IBTimes |date= 4 May 2017 }}</ref>

|-

| 15

! scope="row"| ''[[Chennai Express]]''

| {{INRConvert|159.54|c}}

| Hindi

| 2013

|<ref name="boi"/>

|-

| 16

! scope="row"| ''[[Dilwale (2015 film)|Dilwale]]''

| {{INRConvert|144.83|c}}

| Hindi

| 2015

|<ref name="boi"/>

|-

| 17

! scope="row"| ''[[Mersal (film)|Mersal]]''

| {{INRConvert|140|c}}

| Tamil

| 2017

|<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.ibtimes.co.in/mersal-5-days-box-office-collection-vijays-film-racing-towards-rs-150-crore-1st-weekend-746518|title=Mersal 5-day box office collection: Vijay's film racing towards Rs 150 crore mark|work=IBTimes |date=23 October 2017}}</ref>

|-

| 18

! scope="row"| ''[[I (film)|I]]''

| {{INRConvert|135|c}}

| Tamil

| 2015

|<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.ibtimes.co.in/i-ai-5-day-box-office-collections-opening-weekend-vikram-amy-starrer-grosses-over-135-620857|title='I' ('Ai') 5-Day Box Office Collections (Opening Weekend): Vikram-Amy Starrer Grosses over ₹135 crore Worldwide|work=IBTimes |date=19 January 2015}}</ref>

|-

| 19

! scope="row"| ''[[Golmaal Again]]''

| {{INRConvert|134.48|c}}

| Hindi

| 2017

|<ref name="boi"/>

|-

| 20

! scope="row"| ''[[Raees (film)|Raees]]''

| {{INRConvert|128.14|c}}

| Hindi

| 2017

|<ref name="boi"/>

|}

~[[User:Rajan51|Rajan51]]([[User talk:Rajan51|talk]]) 14:53, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

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== Malayalam film ==

Great father entered in 50 crore [[User:Nabhan nbn|Nabhan nbn]] ([[User talk:Nabhan nbn|talk]]) 05:14, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

== Director and Studio names ==

Do the names of the directors and studios have to be mentioned in the lists. If yes, why? ~[[User:Rajan51|Rajan51]]([[User talk:Rajan51|talk]]) 7:32, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

:There's no mandate, but there's also no prohibition. The tables have been formatted this way for several years. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 15:14, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

::The thing is, those two columns seem to occupy a lot of space and can be removed if they are not very important. I know that they have been there for a long time, but that alone cannot justify their presence there. ~[[User:Rajan51|Rajan51]]([[User talk:Rajan51|talk]]) 16:31, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

:::The page costs the same whether the director and studio are there or not, so "occupy a lot of space" can't alone justify their removal. It's not like we're going to use that freed-up space for ads or something. I would imagine someone might find it interesting to see which studios/directors appear the most in the various tables, but I don't presently have a strong opinion. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 01:58, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

::::Since it occupies more space, removing them will make it easier for Mobile phone viewers to view the entire table. ~[[User:Rajan51|Rajan51]]([[User talk:Rajan51|talk]]) 3:57, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

:::::Do we normally remove content to make it easier for mobile phone viewers? That's not actually something I've ever heard of. It would seem that if content is useful for all, it's also useful for mobile viewers. Where else would they get this information? They'd have to search each article independently and take notes? Doesn't that actually seem like ''more'' of a hassle? Again, I don't presently have a strong opinion, but I feel it's my obligation to present counter-arguments to "it's taking up space". [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 05:40, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

:Personally, it wouldn't bother me much whether the director/studio names were kept or removed. I'm fine either way. [[User:Maestro2016|Maestro2016]] ([[User talk:Maestro2016|talk]]) 22:27, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

== Dangal's China Gross ==

The given [http://english.entgroup.cn/boxoffice/cn/Default.aspx?week=956 source] for ''Dangal's'' China gross does not seem to [http://prntscr.com/k3kcge work]. So, a new source is needed. Maybe [https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2017/10/14/no-hollywood-film-has-topped-dangal-in-china-since-may-but-transformers-5/#2bc9aba198b9 this] can be used. ~[[User:Rajan51|Rajan51]]([[User talk:Rajan51|talk]]) 5:36, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Or a better way would be to get the Chinese gross in CN¥ and convert it to INR. As per this [http://www.cbooo.cn/Alltimedomestic report] from EntGroup, Dangal(released as Wrestle! Father) grossed CN¥1.29912 billion in China(equivalent to {{INR}}1,218.46 crore[https://www.currency-converter.org.uk/currency-rates/historical/table/CNY-INR.html]) ~[[User:Rajan51|Rajan51]]([[User talk:Rajan51|talk]]) 7:29, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

:Generally speaking, I really question Forbes contributor Rob Cain's claims. It's totally unclear what makes this guy some kind of savant for Indian film financials, especially when he's the only guy making the more grandiose claims that the rest of the industry doesn't seem comfortable to report when the chips are down. My skepticism is heightened when Forbes itself bears a disclaimer "Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own", which is something other experienced editors have noted. Is he just a random blogger?

:''[[:Kabali (film)|Kabali]]'' (July 2016 release) is one of my favorite examples of financial hype gone awry for a film. Producers (and shitty reporting from Indian Express. Financial Express, and the rest of Express Group) were claiming that the film had a ''box office gross'' of {{INR}}600+ crore, even though it was well documented that the film had ''pre-release transactions of satellite and music rights sales'' totaling about 200 crore, which would have brought the ''box office figures'' down to (at most) {{INR}}400 crore. Genuine skepticism from [http://www.firstpost.com/bollywood/rajinikanth-kabali-has-earned-rs-600-crore-at-the-global-box-office-or-has-it-2932578.html Firstpost] and [http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kabali-box-office-collection-reports-rajinikanth-starrer-raking-rs-675-crore-13-days-are-fake-688881 IBT] lowered these figures to about 300 crore early on. In 2017, long after the rush died down, [http://www.ibtimes.co.in/mersal-12-days-box-office-collection-crowning-vijay-film-joins-rs-200-crore-club-2nd-weekend-747432 IBT] put their estimated gross total for Kabali at about {{INR}}286 crore, yet [https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2017/05/11/armies-of-ajith-fans-mobilize-to-blast-vivegam-teaser-to-record-views/ Forbes Contributor Rob Cain], whose opinions are his own, pushed an almost 500 crore figure as his authoritative take on the mess of financial information in May 2017, which we kind of have to report to this day, since as a group we haven't yet dug into whether or not we think this guy knows what he's talking about. I think we should start questioning him. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 08:32, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

::I'm not sure whether his claims are correct. But one thing that concerns me is how the worldwide box office grosses of ''Dangal'' and ''Baahubali 2'' have been calculated here. By using this method, we are increasing the error rates of the grosses. Besides, ''Danagl's'' grosses in India, Taiwan, Hong Kong and "Other Territories" have been obtained from Rob Cain's article. There was a [https://www.ibtimes.co.in/akshay-kumars-toilet-ek-prem-katha-beats-salman-khans-bajrangi-bhaijaan-china-heres-how-771346 report] on IBT which stated that ''Dangal's'' global gross was {{INR}}1979.12 crore by June 2018. ~[[User:Rajan51|Rajan51]]([[User talk:Rajan51|talk]]) 9:24, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

::Exactly. I recall the time when this guy reported that ''Baahubali 2'' crossed {{INR}}[https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2017/06/21/baahubali-the-conclusion-still-strong-in-8th-week/ 1725 crore] while 3 months later ''[[International Business Times]]'' reported a [http://www.ibtimes.co.in/baahubali-2-bahubali-2-box-office-collection-ss-rajamoulis-film-mints-rs-1706-50-cr-140-days-742747 lower figure] (remember, this is after the film had a 3 month long run). Great disparity of figures. He was also the first to claim Dangal crossed {{INR}}[https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2017/06/26/indias-dangal-takes-down-₹2000-crore-305m-a-major-milestone-in-world-cinema/ 2000 crore]. The rest of the Indian media [https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/aamir-khan-dangal-creates-rs-2000-crore-club-box-office-collection-4723814/ took it up], and then the producers arrived with a clarification stating this was [https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/has-aamir-khans-dangal-really-made-2-000-crore-dont-celebrate-just-yet-1720035 not the case]. Interestingly, the person has a history of Twitter fights with [[Box Office India]] (don't ask) and [https://boxofficeindia.com/report-details.php?articleid=4063 this] scathing article almost seems to be pointing towards him. [[Special:Contributions/2.51.22.253|2.51.22.253]] ([[User talk:2.51.22.253|talk]]) 17:46, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

:::Ha, interesting. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 20:39, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

:That's odd. Not sure what happened to the link, but EntGroup was reporting $216 million in China last I checked. Now that the link is gone down though, you could take the CNY gross and convert it according to 2017 exchange rates. Using the average 2017 [https://www.ofx.com/en-us/forex-news/historical-exchange-rates/ OFX] exchange rates of 6.7568 CNY/USD and 65.11 INR/USD, ¥1299.12 million converts to $192.3 million and {{INR|1252 crore}}. Oddly, OFX was previously reporting the Chinese exchange rate as about 6.4 CNY/USD average for 2017, which resulted in a converted gross of over 1300 crore, but with the updated exchange rate of 6.7568 CNY/USD, the converted gross now comes to 1252 crore. As for worldwide gross, as mentioned in the article, most sources give the total as over 2000 crore, with some going up to 2100-2200 crore (including [http://www.ibtimes.sg/rajinikanths-2-0-set-rock-10000-screens-japan-singapore-malaysia-uae-us-more-24505 IB Times] which reported 2100 crore in February 2018). Either way, doing the math, the worldwide total comes up to around 2000-2100 crore. [[User:Maestro2016|Maestro2016]] ([[User talk:Maestro2016|talk]]) 21:01, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

::But converting the gross to INR directly from CNY would give a lower error rate than converting it to USD from CNY and then converting it to INR from USD. So I suggest direct conversion.

::Besides that report from IBT in February looks like they have taken all the values from Wikipedia. ~[[User:Rajan51|Rajan51]]([[User talk:Rajan51|talk]]) 2:50, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

::And also, as per the same [http://www.cbooo.cn/Alltimedomestic report] from EntGroup, Secret Superstar grossed CN¥746.76 million in China, which is roughly equivalent to {{INR}}750 crore.[https://www.currency-converter.org.uk/currency-rates/historical/table/CNY-INR.html]. ~[[User:Rajan51|Rajan51]]([[User talk:Rajan51|talk]]) 4:41, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

:::[[OFX (company)|OFX]] doesn't have a direct exchange rate from CNY to INR. Converting CNY-USD then USD-INR is pretty much the same thing as converting CNY-INR. Also, the exchange site you're using seems to only give daily exchange rates, rather than monthly or annual averages (which is what OFX does), so I think [https://www.ofx.com/en-us/forex-news/historical-exchange-rates/ OFX] is a better source to use. As for Secret Superstar, we already have a direct USD figure from EntGroup, so a CNY conversion isn't necessary in this case. [[User:Maestro2016|Maestro2016]] ([[User talk:Maestro2016|talk]]) 11:18, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

::::[[OFX (company)|OFX]] doesn't have to be our only source for yearly exchange rates. As per this [http://fxtop.com/en/historical-exchange-rates.php?A=1&C1=CNY&C2=INR&YA=1&DD1=01&MM1=01&YYYY1=2017&B=1&P=&I=1&DD2=31&MM2=12&YYYY2=2017&btnOK=Go%21 source], the average exchange rate for CNY-INR was {{INR}}9.638 per CN¥ for 2017. In this case, that gives {{INR}}1,252.09 crore which is nearly close to the value you got from double conversion, but direct conversion is still a more reliable method for converting gross to INR. Besides, I don't trust the values given by EntGroup in USD. For example, the gross that they had given for Dangal was $216 million({{INR}}1,400 crore), which is higher than what was given by many other sources[https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2017/10/14/no-hollywood-film-has-topped-dangal-in-china-since-may-but-transformers-5/#2bc9aba198b9] [http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=dangal.htm][https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/30/world/asia/china-india-dangal-bollywood.html][https://www.firstpost.com/entertainment/dangals-china-box-office-collection-at-rs-1200-crore-aamir-khan-film-to-enter-2000-crore-club-3731523.html][https://www.ibtimes.co.in/akshay-kumars-toilet-ek-prem-katha-beats-salman-khans-bajrangi-bhaijaan-china-heres-how-771346] and the one you obtained from CNY. And if you try converting ''Secret Superstar's'' CN¥746.76 million in China using the average exchange rate for the first three months of 2018, you'll get {{INR}}756.08 crore.[http://fxtop.com/en/historical-exchange-rates.php?A=1&C1=CNY&C2=INR&YA=1&DD1=01&MM1=01&YYYY1=2018&B=1&P=&I=1&DD2=31&MM2=03&YYYY2=2018&btnOK=Go%21] ~[[User:Rajan51|Rajan51]]([[User talk:Rajan51|talk]]) 12:44, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

:::::The thing is that the currency exchange rate seems to change. A few months ago, the CNY-USD average for 2017 was 6.4 CNY/USD, which resulted in 1300-something crore. But in the last few months, the CNY-USD average for 2017 suddenly changed to over 6.7 CNY/USD, which now lowers Dangal's China gross down to 1252 crore. It seems the issues surrounding China gross figures is that the currency exchange rates are not consistent. In Superstar's case, we could give an average gross between EntGroup's $124M conversion (810cr) and the manual conversion you gave above (¥746.76M to 756.08cr). [[User:Maestro2016|Maestro2016]] ([[User talk:Maestro2016|talk]]) 14:07, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

::::::If you take up Entgroup's individual reports of ''Secret Superstar''(CNY746.76 million and US$124.4 million) and ''Dangal''(CNY1,299.12 million and US$216 million), you fill find that in both cases the conversion rate that they have used is very close to 6 CNY/USD which is a rate that hasn't been seen since 2014. So I think that they're using the wrong conversion rate. This is not limited to Indian films alone, I have even seen Entgroup give such singificantly inaccurate conversions for Hollywood films. So I think it will be better to obtain the gross in INR from their CNY figures. ~[[User:Rajan51|Rajan51]]([[User talk:Rajan51|talk]]) 16:20, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

:::::::I've noticed that EntGroup's weekly charts generally give a higher gross than the daily charts (Secret Superstar was $117 million on its last daily chart appearance, yet $124 million on its last weekly chart appearance). From what I understand about the China box office, there are two different gross figures, with TP (ticketing prices) and without TP. So the higher gross figures given on EntGroup's weekly charts may be with TP and the lower figures on their daily charts may be without TP. It seems with-TP and without-TP figures appear to be China's equivalent of India's gross and nett figures. [[User:Maestro2016|Maestro2016]] ([[User talk:Maestro2016|talk]]) 21:44, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

::::::::To avoid this problem, we can convert directly from CNY to INR, which will also give a more accurate result. ~[[User:Rajan51|Rajan51]]([[User talk:Rajan51|talk]]) 2:42 9 July 2018 (UTC)

:::::::::The CNY amount given is usually the without-TP amount, which is nearly the same as the without-TP amount in USD that EntGroup gives on its daily charts (i.e. $196M for Dangal and $117M for Superstar). If EntGroup gives the USD amount, then the CNY amount isn't necessary. The secondary currency for this article is USD, so USD figures should be prioritized over CNY figures. For Dangal, the article currently uses its without-TP amount (since the link for its with-TP amount is now broken). In Superstar's case, the issue is whether to use its higher with-TP amount ($124M) or lower without-TP amount ($117M). [[User:Maestro2016|Maestro2016]] ([[User talk:Maestro2016|talk]]) 08:19, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

::::::::::But how do we know that there are two different gross figures and if the CNY gross is the lower one? I think I'll be able to understand better if you cite a reliable source, which has some details about this. Besides, as per this [http://english.entgroup.cn/boxoffice/cn/Default.aspx?week=989 report] from Entgroup, Secret Superstar's total gross is $106 million, and it is the same week as the other report being currently used. The box office gross in USD for all films seems to have decreased. They might have switched to proper exchange rates. ~[[User:Rajan51|Rajan51]]([[User talk:Rajan51|talk]]) 8:48 9 July 2018 (UTC)

:::::::::::A few possible reasons for why EntGroup has recently lowered the weekly gross for older films: The exchange rate for the past has changed and they have updated to reflect this (like I mentioned earlier about how the CNY/USD average for 2017 recently changed from 6.4 to 6.7), are applying the current exchange rate instead of an older exchange rate (which wouldn't be correct), or changed the weekly charts to show with-TP gross instead of without-TP gross (which I can't confirm). Either way, I think the best thing to do would to simply give a range of values and then give an average figure. [[User:Maestro2016|Maestro2016]] ([[User talk:Maestro2016|talk]]) 09:20, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

::::::::::::Can you give a reference that explains this with and without-TP gross? That would make it easier to understand what it is exactly and why it is done. ~[[User:Rajan51|Rajan51]]([[User talk:Rajan51|talk]]) 10:21, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

::::::::::::: I can't find a reliable source for it at the moment, so can't confirm if that's the reason. Either way, after thinking about it, it might be best to go with the $118M figure given on EntGroup's daily charts, which is nearly the same as what you'd get from converting the CNY figure. [[User:Maestro2016|Maestro2016]] ([[User talk:Maestro2016|talk]]) 12:35, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

::::::::::::::Ok, converting it using the [http://fxtop.com/en/historical-exchange-rates.php?A=1&C1=USD&C2=INR&YA=1&DD1=19&MM1=01&YYYY1=2018&B=1&P=&I=1&DD2=18&MM2=02&YYYY2=2018&btnOK=Go%21 exchange rate at the time of release] would give a more accurate result than using the 2017 rate. And it would be better to give the gross in CNY in the note for both ''Dangal'' and ''Secret Superstar''. ~[[User:Rajan51|Rajan51]]([[User talk:Rajan51|talk]]) 1:07, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

:::::::::::::::Not sure if fxtop is a reliable/notable source. It would be better to stick with [[OFX (company)|OFX]] for currency conversions. Also, it would be better to keep the notes short and simple, so it's not necessary to mention any currencies other than INR or USD. [[User:Maestro2016|Maestro2016]] ([[User talk:Maestro2016|talk]]) 11:05, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

::::::::::::::::But converting it at the 2017 rate would not give accurate result as ''Secret Superstar'' released in China only in 2018. Besides RBI would be a more reliable source for INR exchange rates than OFX or CIA. And what about EntGroup's own weekly report that the film had grossed $106.7 million in China? ~[[User:Rajan51|Rajan51]]([[User talk:Rajan51|talk]]) 12:14, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

:::::::::::::::::Actually, I think it would be best to use Wikipedia's own [[Template:To USD]] (which uses World Bank data). And as we've established above, the figures in EntGroup's English weekly charts are inconsistent and fluctuating (in Superstar's case, between $106M and $124M), whereas their English daily charts are fairly consistent and mostly match their CNY figures. [[User:Maestro2016|Maestro2016]] ([[User talk:Maestro2016|talk]]) 17:15, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

::::::::::::::::::Ok, I think we can use [[Template:To USD]] since it relies on World Bank data. So then we would have to update the list using this. And we would have to update Superstar's gross with the 2018 exchange rate later. Besides, if EntGroup's weekly figures are inconsistent, then we would have to use the daily figures even for ''Bajrangi Bhaijaan'' and ''Hindi Medium'' too. Moreover, we won't know the final box office figures in China as the films would be running even after they leave the top 10. So we can get figures from Box Office Mojo. ~[[User:Rajan51|Rajan51]]([[User talk:Rajan51|talk]]) 3:43, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

: {{od|:::::::::::::::::}} I've now updated Bhaijaan and Medium. Also, EntGroup is more reliable for Chinese box office than Mojo. [[User:Maestro2016|Maestro2016]] ([[User talk:Maestro2016|talk]]) 16:55, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

:: {{od|::::::::::::::::::}}But even after the films go out of the top 10 on EntGroup, the films will gross a few million dollars. So what is given by EntGroup is not the final gross figure. So I think Box Office MOJO might be useful. Or we can take the gross from the final figure in CNY if it is available. ~[[User:Rajan51|Rajan51]]([[User talk:Rajan51|talk]]) 17:18, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

::: Fair enough. I've updated Bhaijaan and Medium with Mojo, which shows an increase for both films. However, I've left Dangal and Superstar with EntGroup, since Mojo doesn't show an increase for these films. [[User:Maestro2016|Maestro2016]] ([[User talk:Maestro2016|talk]]) 13:05, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

:::: As per the current daily [http://english.entgroup.cn/boxoffice/cn/daily/?date=02%20/18%20/2018 report] for 18 February 2018 from EntGroup, Superstar's gross is $112.79 million. I think it would have been updated when EntGroup fixed exchange rates. And the report shows that it grossed $0.04 million on that day. So, it could not have crossed Mojo's estimate of $117.7 million at that rate. So, what do we use now? ~[[User:Rajan51|Rajan51]]([[User talk:Rajan51|talk]]) 16:18, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

::::: Mojo's number is virtually identical to what EntGroup reported back in [http://english.entgroup.cn/boxoffice/cn/daily/?date=07%20/04%20/2017 18 February 2018], so it doesn't really make a difference either way. We could reference both Mojo and EntGroup in this case. [[User:Maestro2016|Maestro2016]] ([[User talk:Maestro2016|talk]]) 18:35, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

:::::: I've updated Superstar's gross using just Mojo as the figure given by EntGroup is not final. ~[[User:Rajan51|Rajan51]]([[User talk:Rajan51|talk]]) 2:10, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

== Valid Reference? ==

Hi there, I was wondering if [https://bestoftheyear.in/category/box-office-collection/ Best of the Year] is reliable for box office numbers. For example, for Kannada films, it cites ''Raajakumara'' for grossing 75 cr, and ''Mr and Mrs Ramachari'' at 52 cr., and ''Aptharakshaka'' at 40 cr. This would obviously change some of the Kannada films listed currently, and looking at their "About us" section, they seem legitimate. However, I wanted some confirmation on whether or not they can be a valid resource. Thanks. [[User:Shrev64|Shrev64]] ([[User talk:Shrev64|talk]]) 06:10, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

:{{ping|Shrev64}} Who are they, and what about them looks "legitimate", apart from their claim that they are "a leading Bollywood News portal"? That's pretty much what all cookie-cutter news portals/blogs claim. We only use sources that have ''established reputations for fact-checking and accuracy''. If you've never heard of them, and I've never heard of them, and none of our other regular editors have heard of them, then we probably shouldn't use them. Please see [[WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources]] for a general list of sites that are, and are not, generally considered reliable in the context of Indian entertainment articles. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 06:51, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

::Ok thank you, I couldn't find that link earlier so I'm glad you provided it to me. Have a nice day. [[User:Shrev64|Shrev64]] ([[User talk:Shrev64|talk]]) 08:19, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

== Discrepancies in crore:dollar ratios ==

Per {{OTRS ticket|10764636|2018071310003748}}, the dollars to crore ratio is not consistent throughout the films, causing some films with higher sales in crore to show lower sales in dollars, etc. Can someone take a look at normalizing the information presented? - [[User:TheDaveRoss|TheDaveRoss]] ([[User talk:TheDaveRoss|talk]]) 11:52, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

:Yes, you're right, this problem is because of the changing USD - INR exchange rates. You might want to look into previous discussion on this [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force|here]]. ~[[User:Rajan51|Rajan51]]([[User talk:Rajan51|talk]]) 13:15, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

== Wikipedia used as source ==

Hey guys, I have noticed that some sources generally considered reliable might obtain data from wikipedia. I'm not 100% sure, but this is what makes me think it might be possible.

* On 15 February 2018, IBTimes published an [http://www.ibtimes.sg/rajinikanths-2-0-set-rock-10000-screens-japan-singapore-malaysia-uae-us-more-24505 article] which is currently used as reference for [[PK]]'s worldwide gross. The article states that Dangal, Secret Superstar, PK and Tiger Zinda Hai had collected Rs. 2,122, Rs. 918, Rs.854 and Rs.560 crore respectively. These figures are exactly identical to what this [[List of highest-grossing Indian films|list]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_highest-grossing_Indian_films&diff=825701360&oldid=825656046 contained] on that day. Normally I have observed that different sources give box office estimates which are approximately equal, but rarely match perfectly. In this case the final figures for Dangal, PK and Secret Superstar were calculated by Wikipedian editors from different sources(other than IBT) are are likely to be more inaccurate, and with the article using the same figures, there could be a possibility that the figures could have been taken from Wikipedia.

:Moreover, the calculation of worldwide gross for PK at that time was interesting. The domestic gross of 489 crore was obtained from a [https://bollywoodmoviereview.in/bollywood-200-crores-movies-list/ page] that also said its overseas and worldwide grosses were 303 and 792 crore respectively. And neither of the two sources used are considered reliable as per [[WP:ICTFSOURCES]]. The overseas gross of US$53.4 million was obtained from an earlier [https://www.ibtimes.co.in/baahubali-2-overseas-box-office-collection-rajamoulis-film-beats-chennai-express-kabalis-725036 report] from IBT and converted at the exchange rate of 2016(rather than 2014 or 2015) and the figure obtained in INR(365 crore) was also contradictory to the figure of 303 crore by the source that was used for domestic gross. The overseas grosses for other films too were converted at different exchange rates because of the possibility that IBT could have obtained the USD figures from INR at different exchange rates, as explained [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_highest-grossing_Indian_films/Archive_11#3_Idiots_gross here](I believe it would be better to find another source). The problem was that the calculated gross was higher than the grosses given by other sources[https://www.firstpost.com/entertainment/baahubali-2-the-conclusion-bahubali-2-box-office-collection-crosses-rs-1500-crore-mark-dangal-now-at-rs-1200-crores-3457284.html][https://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/baahubali-2-beats-pk-s-lifetime-collection-becomes-india-s-top-earner-117050600034_1.html][http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/box-office-special-features/box-office-baahubali-2-beats-aamir-khans-p-k-becomes-highest-worldwide-grosser-indian-film-collecting-close-900-crores/] which were below 800 crore. I suggest we stick to those sources which are reliable and contain total worldwide gross.

* Another instance, which made me think that Wikipedia might be used as a source was [https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2017/12/20/how-high-can-salmans-tiger-zinda-hai-fly/#38e673341264 Rob Cain's article on Forbes] which uses the same figure as used on Wikipedia on that [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_highest-grossing_Indian_films&diff=815974957&oldid=815856144 day].

I don't know how we can tackle this problem of Wikipedia being used as a source but I hope you guys can think of something. ~[[User:Rajan51|Rajan51]]([[User talk:Rajan51|talk]]) 11:34, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

:{{ping|Rajan51}} This is quite possible, actually. I know of at least two, somewhat minor incidents when this happened. Note [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=October_%282018_film%29&type=revision&diff=823609048&oldid=821898056 this 2 February 2018] edit. A recurring vandal added his name, Komail Shayan, to the list of musicians involved. This was later picked up by Firstpost [https://www.firstpost.com/entertainment/october-teaser-varun-dhawan-banita-sandhu-take-us-on-an-intimate-journey-of-life-and-relationships-4350827.html on 14 February 2018]. There was another example where [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Raees_(film)&diff=prev&oldid=703125868 this plot summary] existed for Raees on 3 February 2016, but was republished [https://web.archive.org/web/20160216154301/http://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/in-pics-shah-rukh-khan-mahira-on-sets-of-raees/story-WlED9mrDXJ7wHaSxKzx2oJ.html by Hindustan Times] (and a few other sources) verbatim without attribution. Anyway, it would not surprise me in the least if this was widespread--it takes a lot of detective work to suss out, though. Shameful, lazy journalism. This is why I encourage all editors of Indian film articles to be hugely circumspect when dealing with financial figures, as the margin for error is massive, so getting emotionally attached to financial figures is a fool's errand. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 15:39, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

::@[[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]], As to financial figures, with no official Box Office status available especially for south Indian movies, I couldn't agree with you more. [[User:Auditguy|Audit Guy]] ([[User talk:Auditguy|talk]]) 02:59, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

:::I want to be clear that I'm not suggesting we toss out all financial figures, especially for South Indian movies, just that we don't get insane about all of the reported figures, and as a greater goal, that we don't start treating all reported figures as gospel and start creating new content that doesn't agree with what any of the other individual sources say. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 05:14, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

== Malayalam Movie The Great Father ==

The Great Father has collected 50 cr and you didn't listed it. The source is from inuth.com. It is a subset of Indian Express

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https://www.inuth.com/entertainment/malayalam-movies/kerala-box-office-mammootty-the-great-father-emerges-as-the-actors-first-rs-50-cr-blockbuster/ `[[User:Mollywood.lover|Mollywood.lover]] ([[User talk:Mollywood.lover|talk]]) 03:25, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

:{{ping|Mollywood.lover}} If I remember correctly, we didn't list it, because the source of the 50 crore claim for The Great Father was the producers. Inuth doesn't say that, but multiple other sources did, and we can't trust what the producers say, because the producers, and especially their promotional departments, are generally lying about their financial accomplishments to attract more viewers. Also, if you're a fan of Indian Express, you should be aware of the crappy job they did reporting [[:Kabali (film)|Kabali]]'s box office figures, factoring in pre-release income to report super-high numbers, when nobody else ever does that. They cannot be 100% trusted, nor can their "beta" site. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 04:58, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

== Ramaleela Malayalam movie ==

Ramaleela has collected near to 80 cr. The source is catch news which the wikipedia used for many movies sources

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http://www.catchnews.com/regional-cinema/dileep-s-ramaleela-unseats-mohanlal-blockbuster-drishyam-to-become-the-all-time-second-highest-malayalam-grosser-93444.html [[User:Mollywood.lover|Mollywood.lover]] ([[User talk:Mollywood.lover|talk]]) 03:32, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

:{{ping|Mollywood.lover}} Are there any other reliable sources that claim this amount was grossed, or are we supposed to go with the source that reports the highest figures? Because I'm sure you know that Indian film financial figures are largely estimates that fluctuate depending on who's reporting them, what their agenda is, who's paying them, and a variety of other factors. Should we always go with the highest-reported values, or just in this scenario? [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 05:05, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

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== Semi-protected edit request on 19 July 2018 ==

{{edit semi-protected|List of highest-grossing Indian films|answered=no}}

Actually I want Correct the Movie Collections where it has totally wrong and according to some sources.

Rangasthalam Is clearly a Highest Grosser and officially announced by the producing unit. But Bharath Ane Nenu Doesn't even has a success meet and didn't announced a official announcement [[User:Pavankum222|Pavankum222]] ([[User talk:Pavankum222|talk]]) 05:42, 19 July 2018 (UTC)