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I try to find the sources where lions are called king or lord. The earliest sources I found so far is The Fables of Æsop.

• KING: 1921, translation by T. James and G.F. Townsend. The Kingdom of the Lion: "The beasts of the field and forest had a Lion as their king."(wikisource:An argosy of fables/Æsop)
• LORD OF THE BEASTS: 1922, translation by Joseph Jacobs. The Lion, the Fox, and the Beasts: "a Calf came up to receive the last wishes of the Lord of the Beasts."(wikisource:The_Fables_of_Æsop_(Jacobs)/The_Lion,_the_Fox,_and_the_Beasts)

--mingwangx (talk) 15:07, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

LittleJerry Just as the fact that a number of WP:RS's state that the Siberian tiger is the biggest tiger or cat doesn't mean that we should say it just like that, because it contradicts what reliable sources about wild lions and tigers say, that for instance the Bengal tiger has heavier average weights in the wild than the Amur tiger, we must exercise caution when dealing with sources giving different statements about the weights of lions, otherwise, what you did would be akin to changing the statement "the Siberian tiger is often considered to be the biggest tiger or felid" to "the Siberian tiger is the biggest tiger or felid", which is WP:Bias, and the talk-page for the tiger has had a similar discussion already. Leo1pard (talk) 05:51, 16 August 2019 (UTC); edited 05:51, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The 1980 study had a sample size of 344, while your study had a sample size of 16. The 1980 study wins out lions are big and chunky bois. Deer can kill lions.LittleJerry (talk) 12:07, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible to add, is there any information to be found, about the number of male lions <> female lions in nature? I've seen a National Geographic documentary about the lion (Lion Ranger - Trouble in the Pride - s01e01) where they say there are significantly more male than female lions. It would be interesting if this ratio is provided for the species. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.118.94.49 (talk) 20:28, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]