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== Wikipedia biographies are no place for ideological rants ==
: Someone has taken a hacksaw to my edits to this article - someone with very little grammar skill and an obvious affinity based POV for McCarthy. I am re-editing. [[User:Pacian|Pacian]] 06:52, 6 May 2006 (UTC)


=== photo ===
: I made a change to add some humorous (true!) trivia about a website Jenny maintains. The edits were removed by EngineerScotty, but I think he failed to realize that the hilariously ridiculous assertions were totally true! So I created an account and reinstituted my changes. [[User:Knodi|Knodi]]


the photo is kind of blurry. surely there is something better
== Rolling Stone Cover ==


=== discussion ===
Someone wrote,


If someone is controversial, that should be noted, but someone's biography should not open with a paragraph-long rant in favor of vaccines.
"For instance in a cover photo for Rolling Stone magazine McCarthy was scantily clad in a bikini, but at the same time was squirting mustard all over a hotdog whilst it splattered unattractively all over her body."


That paragraph is laced with rhetoric, like the phrase "a dangerous quack cure", which has no place in a factual biographical article on Wikipedia. Note that the phrase "dangerous quack cure" doesn't even occur in the article ABOUT chelation therapy.
Since someone included the jpeg for this article, I'm wondering if people are paying attention. 1 - She is NOT in a scantily cald bikini...she's wearing a bikini top and shorts. 2 - Mustard is NOT "splattered unattractively all over her body." If anything, the purpose of this cover was to titillate with sexual imagery.


Compare to the introduction section on Chairman Mao, who opponents hold responsible for the deaths of 40+ million people. If you were to quote "sources" about Mao, his intro might describe him as inhuman monster or "worse than Hitler". But you can see how even-handed the treatment of even the most controversial figure of the 20th century is:
Accordingly, I removed this part of the article. [[User:Asc85|Asc85]] 17:56, 14 June 2006 (UTC)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong
==Unsourced trivia==
<div class="messagebox cleanup metadata">This section does not cite its [[Wikipedia:Citing sources|references or sources]].<br>
You can [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Fact and Reference Check|help]] Wikipedia by introducing appropriate citations.''</div>*McCarthy's younger sister, Amy, is now a ''[[Playboy]]'' model.
*McCarthy is currently a spokeswoman for José Cuervo [[Tequila]].
*McCarthy worked as a meat slicer at a Polish grocery store in [[Chicago, Illinois|Chicago]].
*Was known for a long time as "[[Vanna White]] of the next generation" for her role on the game show "Singled Out."
*She is known to have a foot fetish and enjoys showing her bare feet to guys and having them played with.
*She was voted the "Best Breasts of the 90's" by ''Playboy'' magazine subscribers.
*McCarthy hosts an online community for mothers, IndigoMoms.com.
*McCarthy is a die-hard [[Barry Manilow]] fan. She began liking him since the age of 2 and has seen his recent concerts in Las Vegas.
: If possible, please provide sources for these trivia items before reincorporating them into the article. Thanks, [[User:Can't sleep, clown will eat me|Can&#39;t sleep, clown will eat me]]


Jenny McCarthy is far less controversial than this. Even in the vaccine debate, she's mostly a footnote. The intro should give an objective overview of her life and career, and detailed information about her activism (and reactions to her activism) should be reserved for the "activism" section.
== What's with the nudity? ==


The quickest fix would be to move that paragraph down into the Activism section, and have the intro end with "Masked Singer". The intro already mentions that she's an "anti-vaccine activist", which is an objective and non-rhetorical description.
Jenny McCarthy is known for many things, one of which is appearing in Playboy, however this encyclopedia is for everyone, not just adults, so therefore I think the naked picture should be removed.

:Wikipedia is not censored for the benefit of children, but I've reverted to a less explicit photo because the Santa photo is too in-your-face for this article. Anyone who wants to put the Santa photo or another photo with similar exposure will need to get a consensus here first. -- '''<font color="navy">[[User:Dalbury|Donald Albury]]</font><sup><font color="green">([[User talk:Dalbury|<font color="green">Talk]])</font></font></sup>''' 17:22, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Later, after being moved, that paragraph could be revised to be less rhetorical and more objective. The point should be to lay out the facts of her activism and reactions to it, not to make the case that she's wrong. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/50.1.19.112|50.1.19.112]] ([[User talk:50.1.19.112#top|talk]]) 20:25, 21 April 2020 (UTC)</small>
: It could probably be toned down from the current version, but it shouldn't be whitewashed. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]]) 02:43, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
:oh, gee, it';s almost as if she promotes dangerous quack cures for autism or something. '''[[user:JzG|Guy]]''' <small>([[user talk:JzG|help!]])</small> 23:37, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

== Mtv ==

Jenny McCarthy was on Mtv’s Remote Control. But it’s not listed in her filmography [[Special:Contributions/2601:843:C300:A5A0:ADC7:18FC:5D81:84FB|2601:843:C300:A5A0:ADC7:18FC:5D81:84FB]] ([[User talk:2601:843:C300:A5A0:ADC7:18FC:5D81:84FB|talk]]) 03:41, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

== Celebrities who are Chicago Bears fans ==

Jenny McCarthy
Tim Duncan
Mila Kunis
Vince Vaughn
Eddie Vedder
Jim Blusehi
Jermeny Piven
Dwayne Wade
Barack Obama
Ashton Kutcher [[Special:Contributions/217.180.228.150|217.180.228.150]] ([[User talk:217.180.228.150|talk]]) 01:03, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 18:09, 24 June 2024

Wikipedia biographies are no place for ideological rants[edit]

photo[edit]

the photo is kind of blurry. surely there is something better

discussion[edit]

If someone is controversial, that should be noted, but someone's biography should not open with a paragraph-long rant in favor of vaccines.

That paragraph is laced with rhetoric, like the phrase "a dangerous quack cure", which has no place in a factual biographical article on Wikipedia. Note that the phrase "dangerous quack cure" doesn't even occur in the article ABOUT chelation therapy.

Compare to the introduction section on Chairman Mao, who opponents hold responsible for the deaths of 40+ million people. If you were to quote "sources" about Mao, his intro might describe him as inhuman monster or "worse than Hitler". But you can see how even-handed the treatment of even the most controversial figure of the 20th century is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong

Jenny McCarthy is far less controversial than this. Even in the vaccine debate, she's mostly a footnote. The intro should give an objective overview of her life and career, and detailed information about her activism (and reactions to her activism) should be reserved for the "activism" section.

The quickest fix would be to move that paragraph down into the Activism section, and have the intro end with "Masked Singer". The intro already mentions that she's an "anti-vaccine activist", which is an objective and non-rhetorical description.

Later, after being moved, that paragraph could be revised to be less rhetorical and more objective. The point should be to lay out the facts of her activism and reactions to it, not to make the case that she's wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.1.19.112 (talk) 20:25, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It could probably be toned down from the current version, but it shouldn't be whitewashed. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:43, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
oh, gee, it';s almost as if she promotes dangerous quack cures for autism or something. Guy (help!) 23:37, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mtv[edit]

Jenny McCarthy was on Mtv’s Remote Control. But it’s not listed in her filmography 2601:843:C300:A5A0:ADC7:18FC:5D81:84FB (talk) 03:41, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Celebrities who are Chicago Bears fans[edit]

Jenny McCarthy Tim Duncan Mila Kunis Vince Vaughn Eddie Vedder Jim Blusehi Jermeny Piven Dwayne Wade Barack Obama Ashton Kutcher 217.180.228.150 (talk) 01:03, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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