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Wouldn't it be better to divide the sections on East Europe and West Europe into the more accurate East, West and Central categories? PortholePete (talk) 10:47, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Change "They picked out Hungary, Poland, Croatia and Lithuania as the worst offenders" to "They picked out Hungary, Poland, Croatia and Lithuania as the worst offenders in the European Union" as the report rates only EU countries so this suggests that Holocaust denial is less serious and mainstream outside of Eastern Europe. Originalcola (talk) 06:15, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. ––FormalDude ^talk 07:50, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In the section on false equivalency the first line says ‘the so called allied atrocities’. This implies that they weren’t atrocities, which they were. Them being by used as false equivalents doesn’t detract from them. They are still documented atrocities. Not being in the same scale as The Holocaust, doesn’t mean they didn’t happen. 121.220.32.136 (talk) 13:47, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that depends. Based on Allied war crimes during World War II, what "Holocaust denial literature" terms "Allied atrocities" could be any mix of stuff a decent military historian would or would not call "atrocity". Pinging @K.e.coffman, if you have an opinion. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:07, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there's scientific definition of "atrocity"; in that sense, all atrocities are "so-called". Jayjg ^(talk) 17:30, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@GizzyCatBella: deletes it [14] with the edit summary: "Not a RS, doesn’t meet sourcing restriction, appears to be written by students and self-published by non-experts."

Then @Beyond My Ken: restores the material [15] with this - accurate, as it happens - edit summary: "it's based on academic research"

Only for @Zero0000: revert him [16] with this edit summary: "It is out of the question to cite a report written by "student researchers"

The source in question, was this: https://balkaninsight.com/2019/01/25/holocaust-revisionism-widespread-in-croatia-warns-report-01-25-2019

Now, Balkan Insight is the website of the Balkan Investigative Reporting Network (BIRN), and is the very definition of a reliable journalistic source. Indeed, it's about the only news source in all of the Western Balkans that is truly independent and non-partisan - thanks to its sources of funding and it's status as a de-facto non-profit. It has received nothing but praise from the industry for it's fearless and non-biased investigative reporting, and its employment of only serious journalists. It has won numerous awards (from the Global Investigative Journalism Network, Reporters sans frontières, the EU, United Nations Development Program, the OSCE, local NGOs, local journalist associations throughout ex-Yugoslavia and Albania, the UACES for "excellence in reporting on the European Union in the English-speaking media", and even UNICEF.

The author of the piece, Anja Vladisavljevic, is not a "self-published student non-expert". She is a seasoned Balkan journalist, formerly of Le Monde Diplomatique, Bilten.org, Balkan Insight of course, and as of late 2021, with the newly founded Oštro Center For Investigative Journalism in the Adriatic Region,[17] a partner of the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project, and a member of the Global Investigative Journalism Network.

In short, I propose that the material be restored. Do I have a second? - EnlightenmentNow1792 (talk) 06:46, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The research she cites, was not written by mere "student researchers", but was the project of William Echikson, financed by Yale University and Grinnell College, and assisted by a distinguished professor from each of those universities. Echikson is himself a former research fellow at Harvard, and a 30-year veteran Europe-based correspondent (PBS, New Yorker, Wall Street Journal, BusinessWeek, Fortune, POLITICO, you name it - he was even Editor-in-chief of France's Libération’s international supplements!) He's published two books on gastronomy, was Dow Jones' Brussels Bureau Chief (2001-2007), then joined Google in 2008 as "Head of Free Expression Policy and PR for Europe, Middle East & Africa". He is now a Contributing Editor at at the independent, non-profit, non-partisan Centre for European Policy Studies in Brussels.

From Grinnell, the project received support and advice from Professor Daniel P. Reynolds, Department chair of German Studies and Seth Richards Professor in Modern Languages. His most recent book, Postcards from Auschwitz (NYU Press, 2018), explores the relationship between tourism and Holocaust remembrance, a topic he has been researching since 2007. At Grinnell Reynolds has been a pioneer in developing course-embedded travel opportunities for students. Since 2010 he has been taking students to Europe as part of his team-taught class on the city of Berlin with Professor Jenny Anger in Art History, and more recently with Professor David Harrison in the Department of French and Arabic, as part of the Grinnell's "Global Learning Program". His PhD in German Studies is from Harvard btw.

From Yale University, Maurice Samuels (again, a PhD from Harvard), is the Betty Jane Anlyan Professor of French at that fine institution, where he is also the inaugural director of the Yale Program for the Study of Antisemitism. He has been awarded the Gaddis Smith International Book Prize (2007); as well as the "Scaglione Prize", given by the national Modern Language Association for the best book published in the country in French studies, twice (2009 and 2016); and in 2015 was awarded a Fellowship at the Guggenheim Foundation.