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Either literally or not, neither claims evolution isnt possible. Some stories are ment to be literal, some imagery or prophetic. As of today most honest athiest will tell you the bible is thee most accurate book of history in existence, with cultures, events, kings and their reigns, wars, lands and borders, etc etc. [[User:Truthbetold717|Truthbetold717]] ([[User talk:Truthbetold717|talk]]) 12:53, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
Either literally or not, neither claims evolution isnt possible. Some stories are ment to be literal, some imagery or prophetic. As of today most honest athiest will tell you the bible is thee most accurate book of history in existence, with cultures, events, kings and their reigns, wars, lands and borders, etc etc. [[User:Truthbetold717|Truthbetold717]] ([[User talk:Truthbetold717|talk]]) 12:53, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

:The converse is actually more likely: an honest theist is far more likely to admit that the Bible isn't historically or, nay, scientifically accurate (both views are supported by the scholarly consensus, as you will find in the link provided by Grabergs) than an honest atheist is to "admit" the opposite. That said, none of that means that the Bible wasn't intended to be read literally, and numerous sources actually suggest that it was. The editors around here don't agree with this, though, so we're just gonna have to leave this falsehood in the article. [[User:Oldstone James|<span style="color:white;background:#21E907"><sup>O̲L̲D̲S̲T̲O̲N̲E̲</sup></span>]][[user talk:Oldstone James|<span style="color:grey;background:#21E907"><sub>J̅A̅M̅E̅S̅?</sub></span>]] 18:15, 14 January 2020 (UTC)


:You won't care for the article [[Historicity of the Bible]], then. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 14:02, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
:You won't care for the article [[Historicity of the Bible]], then. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 14:02, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

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Genealogical Adam and Eve

Would this line of work be worth including?

- https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/10/04/upcoming-book-leaves-scientific-possibility-existence-adam-eve-column/3826195002/

- https://ivpress.com/the-genealogical-adam-and-eve

- https://asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2018/PSCF3-18Swamidass.pdf

Sswamida (talk) 15:14, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Biblical literalism is a misreading?

The article, as it is now, repeatedly claims that "misreading the story as history rather than theology leads to Creationism and the denial of evolution". However, not only do the sources listed do not appear to support this claim – the most the sources say is that one shouldn't interpret the Bible as history, which is a whole lot different from saying that the Bible wasn't intended to be historically accurate – the article on biblical literalism itself does not have a single mention of the "fact" that it's a misreading. I am also fairly confident that, upon research, I will be able to quote a number of atheist scholars as saying that the Bible was intended to be taken literally. I don't think the fact that biblical literalism is a misreading is unequivocal at all, and so I believe the claim that it is should be retracted from the article.OlJa 10:55, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't open a new thread on the same subject as the immediately preceding one.PiCo (talk) 12:18, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The preceding thread you are referring to was not yet opened at the time I started writing this section. I may merge the two sections in a minute, though, if you give me the permission to. OlJa 12:52, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That would misrepresent the cited sources showing mainstream expert opinion. . dave souza, talk 06:42, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Either literally or not, neither claims evolution isnt possible. Some stories are ment to be literal, some imagery or prophetic. As of today most honest athiest will tell you the bible is thee most accurate book of history in existence, with cultures, events, kings and their reigns, wars, lands and borders, etc etc. Truthbetold717 (talk) 12:53, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The converse is actually more likely: an honest theist is far more likely to admit that the Bible isn't historically or, nay, scientifically accurate (both views are supported by the scholarly consensus, as you will find in the link provided by Grabergs) than an honest atheist is to "admit" the opposite. That said, none of that means that the Bible wasn't intended to be read literally, and numerous sources actually suggest that it was. The editors around here don't agree with this, though, so we're just gonna have to leave this falsehood in the article. O̲L̲D̲S̲T̲O̲N̲E̲J̅A̅M̅E̅S̅? 18:15, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You won't care for the article Historicity of the Bible, then. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:02, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Truthbetold717 - Do you have a source for your claim that "...most honest athiest will tell you the bible is thee most accurate book of history in existence"? HiLo48 (talk) 21:44, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bad information

How about how badly written this page is! Taken myths from Mesopotamia but Meso was a hogpog of multiple stories from various cultures that were word of mouth. Its laughable to think the genesis story is taken from that culture and adapted. Its more than likely the meso ppl heard their stories from the hebrews word of mouth as the meso page states. Truthbetold717 (talk) 12:48, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bring some good WP:Reliable sources that propose this, and maybe it can be included. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:55, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Shat? Where does it say anything about Hebrew word of mouth? Doug Weller talk 22:45, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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